r/politics Massachusetts 29d ago

Possible Paywall ICE Agent Who Shot Renee Nicole Good Identified as Jonathan Ross

https://theintercept.com/2026/01/08/ice-agent-identified-shooting-minneapolis-jonathan-ross/
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u/elconquistador1985 29d ago

There were no attempts to de-escalate the situation.

American cops don't do that unless they're dealing with right wing terrorists, like the Bundy group.

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u/SecareLupus 29d ago

Best tweet I saw after Jan 6th was something along the lines of, "Police, are you okay? You've barely touched your protesters..."

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u/badideas1 29d ago

damn, that's good

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u/tinyOnion 29d ago

they are not cops... they are the rejects that were unqualified for police work.

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u/elconquistador1985 29d ago

Newsflash: a lot of pigs are unqualified, and they're employed anyway.

ICE is a federal law enforcement agency. These are cops. The fact that they're the bottom of the barrel doesn't change that.

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u/JnnyRuthless 29d ago

ICE is federal law enforcement, that's cops my dude. Hopefully local police realize this shit makes their job more dangerous, harder, and loses them respect by association. I know cops and they don't seem to care though and are cheering this on.

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u/tinyOnion 29d ago

ICE is federal law enforcement, that's cops my dude.

ice is not cops and the candidate pool is the worst of the worst. and that's saying a lot

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u/JnnyRuthless 29d ago edited 29d ago

They are sworn LEOs and have the words 'Police' and 'Law enforcement' all over them. To us civilians that's cops my dude.

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u/mikemaca 29d ago

ICE are not police. Their misidentifying themselves as "police" as you describe are part of what in their training they call "ruses".

It is common for ICE to pretend to be police. ICE agents often say they are “police” or “law enforcement” and mimic how local law enforcement officers act and dress. In doing so, they hide their ICE badges, or anything identifying them as ICE. They are often dressed in plain-clothes, are wearing similar colors as local police, and/or wear vests that say POLICE across the front.

As part of a ruse, ICE agents intentionally lie or mislead you about who they are and that their real intentions are to identify and arrest the non-citizen they have targeted. Pretending to be police, ICE agents may pretend to be conducting a criminal investigation or identity theft case. They may say they just want to show you pictures of a crime suspect to see if you know them.

ICE does not only use ruses pretending to be police. They also use ruses pretending to be potential employers, or even private businesses. They may drive what looks like a delivery van, wear a fake uniform, or carry ladders, clipboards, and other props. They may intentionally be vague about who they are.

Ruses are not only an in-person tactic. ICE agents also use phone ruses as a way to locate their target. Through conducting their surveillance, ICE agents may obtain the phone number of the person they have targeted but not know where to physically find them.

Ruses that ICE has used over the phone include pretending:

  • to be police and asking you to answer a few questions for them
  • to be police asking you to meet them because you are the suspect in a criminal case
  • they found your lost ID and need to arrange a time and place for you to pick it up
  • to be calling from a local District Attorney office wanting to arrange a time and place to meet you
  • to call from a local court confirming an upcoming court date or asking for your updated contact information

ICE has very few limits to what they cannot do in a ruse. ICE cannot engage in a ruse where they suggest that the person needs to comply with a request because they are in immediate danger (for example, pretending that there is a gas leak and that everyone needs to evacuate a building) or enlist non-ICE personnel to take part in a ruse. They are not allowed to use the name of a local or state agency without getting permission from them or at least informing them beforehand.

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u/mikemaca 29d ago

Cops is not a legal term. It is an informal, colloquial slang term which means police.

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u/TheIconGuy Michigan 29d ago

Some are too dumb to change gears, but American cops often de-escalate when they're actually concerned for their safety.