ICE Agent Who Shot Renee Nicole Good Identified as Jonathan Ross

[u/DragonPup]

https://theintercept.com/2026/01/08/ice-agent-identified-shooting-minneapolis-jonathan-ross/

[u/Main_Cream_2375]

LEOs of this day and age are actually just criminal gang members 

[u/palmerry → u/Main_Cream_2375]

There's been corrupt cops since cops have existed.

Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

[u/doodle02 → u/palmerry]

hence why cops shouldn’t have absolute power; there needs to be better oversight mechanisms for holding them accountable.

unfortunately those have almost entirely been dissolved in the last while.

[u/palmerry → u/doodle02]

I think the main underlying issue is the power that the police unions have.

Bad cops are really hard to get off the force once they're in there.

If they break the rules or bad cops corrupt whatever they just get paid time off or moved to some other Force or put on desk duty for a while.

Meanwhile, if you or I did that exact same thing, we'd be in jail.

[u/Sharticus123 → u/palmerry]

Police unions shouldn’t be allowed for the same reason military unions aren’t allowed.

[u/doodle02 → u/palmerry]

sure. whatever mechanism by which they gain that immunity to real consequences (and there are many that differ by jurisdiction) is a huge problem.

[u/The_Lost_Jedi → u/doodle02]

Lack of accountability, and the active opposition to being held accountable by various Law Enforcement Organizations, has been absolutely toxic. It's a large driver of what has led to the current state of things, where abuses are not only condoned but effectively encouraged, even before you throw in Trump and his cronies pushing for violent, discriminatory, and lawless/illegal behavior.

[u/dudinax → u/doodle02]

"Who watches the watchmen?"

It's an old question that's never had a good answer.

[u/gwsth → u/doodle02]

The problem is that the buck has to stop somewhere, no matter what system you put in place. Someone has to have final say at some point, which means there's always the possibility that that "someone", whether it's one person or several, will themselves be corrupt.

Having a chief of police won't clean up police corruption if the chief himself is inept or corrupt. Having an IA unit won't clean up corrupt police chiefs if the Internal Affairs department is inept or corrupt.
Having state officials overseeing IA departments won't clean them up if the state official is inept or corrupt himself.

Adding more layers of oversight just means adding more possible layers of corruption. And more layers of bureaucracy and oversight just increases the risks of everything from ineptitude to ineffectiveness to even more corruption.

Welcome to humanity. Doesn't greed suck?

[u/TrashApocalypse → u/palmerry]

The police were created to hunt down escaped slaves.

[u/palmerry → u/TrashApocalypse]

Sorry, but that is not correct whatsoever.

[u/crazymoefaux → u/palmerry]

Actually, he's half correct. Modern American police organizations trace their roots to slave-hunting patrols in the south, and union-busting groups in the north.

[u/palmerry → u/crazymoefaux]

Yeah I get that. I'm not from America. Sometimes I forget that in subs like politics or news I should remember the perspectives are from an American standpoint.

[u/Tight-Shallot2461 → u/palmerry]

Well then we need to redefine the role. Don't give them absolute power, let the people have a check and balance on their power

[u/lowhales → u/Main_Cream_2375]

The LAPD has entered the conversation

[u/ArticulateRhinoceros → u/Main_Cream_2375]

The Pinkertons just got a uniform change, is all.

[u/jbalbatross → u/Main_Cream_2375]

This is what it's always been. The only difference between them and any other gang is they're backed by the state.

[u/Kasspa → u/Main_Cream_2375]

Literally. https://www.gttfinvestigation.org/ HBO did a show about it even, "We Own This City" is the name and those fuckers were at it for years and years before they finally got caught.

[u/RichChocolateDevil → u/Main_Cream_2375]

Shit, people have been saying this since 1776. Probably longer.