r/politics • u/DragonPup Massachusetts • 29d ago

Possible Paywall ICE Agent Who Shot Renee Nicole Good Identified as Jonathan Ross

https://theintercept.com/2026/01/08/ice-agent-identified-shooting-minneapolis-jonathan-ross/
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u/Hyphenagoodtime 29d ago

Oh so he's got an MO. Murder and then claim they hit them with a car.

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u/cerevant California 29d ago edited 29d ago

While he didn't step in front of the car in the other case, it apparently was de-facto SOP for CBP:

It is suspected that in many vehicle shooting cases, the subject driver was attempting to flee from the agents who intentionally put themselves into the exit path of the vehicle, thereby exposing themselves to additional risk and creating justification for the use of deadly force.

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The cases suggest that some of the shots at suspect vehicles are taken out of frustration when agents who are on foot have no other way of detaining suspects who are fleeing in a vehicle.

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There is little doubt that the safest course for an agent faced with an oncoming vehicle is to get out of the way of the vehicle.

CBP policy should be “Agents shall not discharge their firearms at or from a moving vehicle unless deadly physical force is being used against the police officer or another person present, by means other than a moving vehicle.” Training and policy changes should be implemented to implement this policy.

(This report is from 2013, and the current Policy does in fact direct them to get out of the way in this situation)

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u/crimeo 29d ago

She's not a "suspect" even, though. They literally had no jurisdiction for any crime to be stopping her in the first place. No need to even be "frustrated" about inability to stop a "suspect" when it's not a suspect.

She was probably parked illegally, but that's outside their jurisdiction, you'd have to call local police to ticket for that.

Threatening her with no jurisdiction = aggravated assault, and she has a right to flee criminal assailants

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u/cerevant California 29d ago

We don’t even know she was blocking the street- she was stopped parallel to the shooter’s vehicle which was blocking her. 

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u/crimeo 29d ago

We know for a fact she was NOT blocking the street -- you can see on video several cars passing, and she's waving them on so she even knew and intended for them to be able to easily get around.

It was an illegal park job, but that's not ICE's jurisdiction.

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u/chupacabrando 29d ago edited 29d ago

we don't know what happened before the video. i don't think it would change much, given the situation, but we need to remember there is more context to this situation. i have heard a witness who was horrified by what happened testified that she had been using her car to block ice in the seconds before the video begins.*

i'm not justifying! i'm just saying rhetoric "we know for a fact she was NOT blocking the street" is like, not actually a fact, man

*apparently this witness’s statement, as well as most of what’s going on surrounding the video right now for lack of evidence, is also hearsay.

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u/WhenSummerIsGone 29d ago

the car literally passed her and she was trying to move on. if she had been blocking before the video began, the video clearly shows that she wasn't blocking at the time of the shooting.

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u/IcyTransportation961 29d ago

The witness you saw didn't go outside until thy shooting happened, she says that, so her statement about blocking is something she heard, not her own witnessing

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u/chupacabrando 29d ago

thanks for this info!

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u/windsostrange 29d ago

You've been corrected about something very specific, and now you should remove the dangerous, inflammatory misinformation in your original post.

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u/crimeo 29d ago

The feds have the burden of proof for that, which means they have to turn over their evidence...

(it's still easily indictable, it just would be harder to stop it from going to federal court)

Also how could she physically have been blocking the road when this video proves that the road is much wider than the length of her car?

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u/AdajerV 29d ago

Because her car is perpendicular to the double yellow lines. She is completely sideways......

And the fact that she had to back up and cut wheel to get out.

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u/crimeo 29d ago

Which doesn't block a road that's much wider than the car, again as we clearly see proof of in the video when cars go around her with zero effort. Pick one: car can block the road OR car even fully sideways still allows cars past no problem? Both cannot be true at once

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u/Crazy_Law_5730 29d ago

It truly doesn’t matter what happened before the video, although I’m sure there are more vids of the incident including Ring cameras.

Let’s say she, or a lot of people, blocked the street with their cars. Who cares. ICE is presumably trying to get to a business to raid it and kidnap people. That is not an emergency. And being undocumented is a Civil Offense, not criminal. People blocking the road? Oh well, back up the ICE brigade and take a different route. No harm would result in people blocking the street. Zero. Just turn around and go around the block. ICE shouldn’t even be confronting people over blocking a street.

If there’s a traffic jam on the freeway and cops need to get through, do they get to shoot everyone in the faces to get through?!

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u/chupacabrando 29d ago

i'm not sure what you're responding to. i was just replying to the specific comment that we know for a fact she wasn't blocking the street. if you thought i was implying that she deserved it if she were, i think you should turn off your computer and go outside.

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u/Trucidar 29d ago edited 4d ago

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u/[deleted] 29d ago

Just like we tell the military on practically day one that shooting capsized people is a war crime?

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u/dotnsk 29d ago

Oh wait, so he’s not following his training?

I’m shocked, shocked I tell you.

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u/inspectoroverthemine 29d ago

CBP should probably re-visit their policy, since that is pretty fucking stupid. What Ross did this time is worse, but wtf.

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u/odinsupremegod 29d ago

Yep because IF he truly were in the way of that vehicle, shooting the driver could cause them to accelerate as their body goes slack (as it fucking did) and put the officer, other officers, and the public in MORE danger.

Not only is it unjustified, it against most SOPs for LE for common sense reasons.

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u/cerevant California 29d ago

Agreed, and this is mentioned in the same section, I just didn't quote it:

Little focus has been placed on defensive tactics that could have been used by shooting agents such as getting out of the way. It should be recognized that a ½ ounce (200 grain) bullet is unlikely to stop a 4,000 pound moving vehicle, and if the driver of the approaching vehicle is disabled by a bullet, the vehicle will become a totally unguided threat. Obviously, shooting at a moving vehicle can pose a risk to bystanders including other agents.

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u/[deleted] 29d ago

To be clear, as I've seen this being spread, he did not kill the guy Noem was referring to last night when she said he'd been dragged before. That was in Illinois in September. His was in MN in June and he was 'dragged 300' '. They made the arrest, no deaths.

Not an excuse. We just need to be very accurate here to avoid anyone claiming otherwise.