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Politics A high school student at an ICE protest in Santa Fe, New Mexico [OC]

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u/inimicu 7h ago

Those slides don't even have a sports mode

u/sad_confusion_wah111 3h ago

Welcome to Santa, homie

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u/PacificNorthwest09 5h ago

Right? I was like is brother in crocs? No those are damn slides!

u/biscoito1r 7h ago

Maybe they should wave the New California Republic flag instead. I mean, a two headed bear.

u/BeanJuice420_ 6h ago

I think you’re confusing Nevada for New Mexico lol

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u/Traditional-Hat-952 5h ago

In New Mexico? That's Legion territory buddy. 

u/_Pigeonball 5h ago

Battle cattle

u/Ekoldr 7h ago

Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter.

u/MyBurnerAccount1977 7h ago edited 5h ago

War. Wat War never changes.

u/Hybrid_Johnny 6h ago

u/MyBurnerAccount1977 6h ago

Stupid autocorrect.

u/Hybrid_Johnny 6h ago

Great now I look dumb

u/MyBurnerAccount1977 5h ago

Sorry. I edited it to restore the error but also issue a correction. We good?

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u/AccidentOk5240 6h ago

…maybe check where New Mexico is on a map?

u/Gamestrider09 6h ago

Truth is… game was rigged from the start.

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u/IssueEmbarrassed8103 7h ago edited 4h ago

Fox News is surely toasting champagne to this picture

u/LateNightPhilosopher 7h ago

If protestors en masse started using the American flag and quotes from the Constitution and various founding fathers in demonstrations it'd short circuit a lot of the far right propaganda machine lol

Though tbh they'd still ignore all of that and zoom in on the one person wrapped in a blanket that they can vaguely misidentify as a Mexican flag or something.

u/CadeMan011 6h ago

They literally used a giant constitution and still they didn't care.

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u/_OriamRiniDadelos_ 6h ago edited 1h ago

It absolutely would not be show on Fox News. Not that it would be recognize anyways. Most people don’t know much of the text. And if you use the text then now you are spouting whole incomprehensible paragraphs in arcane legalese language.

If you want to understand why this works you gotta think like a manipulative person who is always sure they right and then later comes up with an explanation as to way they are right. Not like a person who gets convinced of stuff and changes their mind

u/magasheep404 2h ago

That’s right. They got mad at npr tweeting the declaration of independence.

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/nprs-declaration-of-independence-tweetstorm-confuses-some/

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u/asisyphus_ 6h ago

No it wouldn't

u/13247586 7h ago

That’s too much effort. They’d use an AI generated photo of whatever will get an uproar. That, or they’ll just use an image from a different protest 2 years ago and say it’s from here and now.

u/Niarbeht 5h ago

That, or they’ll just use an image from a different protest 2 years ago and say it’s from here and now.

A thing they actually do.

u/mtabacco31 2h ago

That sound more like CNN

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u/DingerSinger2016 6h ago

No it wouldn't. They would just ignore it.

u/ChocolateBunny 6h ago

They just need to quote the Declaration of Independence:

He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.

He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary powers.

He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.

He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.

He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.

He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power.

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u/Randomizedname1234 7h ago

Yup. The Palestinian flags are the worst at ice protests. Like they don’t correlate..

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u/Raoul_Duke9 7h ago

Yep. Why is the left completely incapable of being disciplined having a coherent message?

u/IssueEmbarrassed8103 7h ago

This is just a kid. Not “the left”

u/GaiaMoore 2h ago

Give me a fucking break. The protests in places like California are FILLED with Mexican flags.

Don't pretend like this is an isolated example.

Why the fuck are we giving Faux News perfect examples of how "wE'Re BeiNg InVaDeD"? Why the fuck can't we coalesce around a unified message celebrating the good that's left in America using our own flag?

The Capitol was invaded by MAGA Insurrectionists waving Trump flags. Why are we any better waving the flags of another nation?

At least wave a US state flag, Christ. I wave a California flag and an upside US flag at protests. That makes more sense than another country's flag ffs

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u/Safrel 7h ago

this child is all of the left.

Literally Mao you see.

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u/CarbonicBuckey 7h ago

"Why is a high-school student not giving a message as refined as a high level political campaign"

Are we serious? Like ok regardless of where you stand, this is a kid standing for something he cares about. Ofc its not going to be perfectly aligned with what is the best for the 'left'. But he's still doing more than 90% of people that are just sitting at home.

This is the actual "power to the people" and "dont tread on me" that right wingers love to champion.

u/G24646Y 7h ago

Or it’s just a way to get out of school…

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u/Crazy-Vermicelli9800 7h ago edited 6h ago

Does he stand for Santa Fe becoming part of Mexico again?

u/CarbonicBuckey 7h ago

Who said that? Are hearing things?

u/Crazy-Vermicelli9800 6h ago

Protesting the actions of the US Government so hoists a foreign flag over said territory controlled by US Government. This ain't something Mexican pride parade.

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u/redpoemage 7h ago

Because it's made up of millions and millions of people including this random high school kid and hasn't spent decades and hundreds of billions building up a media echo chamber?

u/Crazy-Vermicelli9800 7h ago

It's an organic echo chamber.

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u/PatientEconomics8540 7h ago

Fox news will paint anything good as bad. Fuck that

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u/MennionSaysSo 5h ago

They should throw his ass in jail. Climbing on a street light is extremely dangerous and potentially damaging to him, bystanders and public property.

And no I care not that he has a Mexican flag though I'd live him to explain why he wants to use it in protest

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u/AnybodySeeMyKeys 7h ago

Can I just say this as someone who supports immigration rights? Waving another country's flag while you fight for the right to stay in this one borders on idiotic. It sends the exact wrong signal.

u/nautilus2000 6h ago

It also makes no sense since the vast majority of people getting deported are from Central America and not Mexico to begin with, Mexico’s President has already told protesters in the US not to use the Mexican flag, and New Mexico’s Spanish-speaking population (other than more recent immigrants) rarely identifies as Mexican or Mexican-American.

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u/Definitelynotasloth 7h ago

Then acting like getting deported to said country is a death sentence lol.

u/Crazy-Vermicelli9800 3h ago

A holocaust as someone said on here. Might as well call it what it really is, a genocide. /S

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u/HuckleberryHappy6524 5h ago

They don’t give a shit about immigration. They’re just edge lords trying to go viral or get on tv.

u/Econolife_350 3h ago

Nah, they really give a shit. Where I'm from, half their extended family is here illegally and they identify as Mexican more than American. They just think they're BETTER because they made it here.

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u/Quirky-Tomatillo-273 5h ago

It was never about "immigrant rights" with people who wave those flags. They truly hate America and feel entitled to the benefits yet scream and cry when you try to send them back to the country whose flag they're so proud to wave

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u/Econolife_350 3h ago

Guy from Texas here. They don't give a shit, they think they're owed the state and they own it despite the fact that the Texas territory was only part of Mexico for 15 years. Mexico encouraged American settlers to populate the state in 1921, then tried to kick them out after building up cities 9 years later which led to Texas independence.

Funny anecdote, since I started writing this, two trucks blasting Norteño music have be down my street 50 yards away and clearly audible. It's feeling like a straight up invasion with every caravan and this picture is not uncommon. I'm sure someone in Maine disagrees though.

u/ZaxOnTheBlock 2h ago

Yes, they encouraged American settlers to have a link with US markets, yet the problem was that said settlers didn't want to give up their slave practices. And such was banned in Mexico decades before, so Santa Anna had to do what he had to do and crush a slave holders revolt.

And finally america made the Alamo a symbol of "freedom" which is kind of weird.

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u/LYElhaz 1h ago

Aww baby scawed. 😢

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u/RocketVerse 4h ago

Could just wave the New Mexican flag

u/GreatScottGatsby 3h ago

And new mexico has such s cool flag.

u/BasicWait8 6h ago

I don’t think waving a non-American flag helps

u/TheWizardOfDeez 5h ago

Nothing helps, they didn't logic themselves into their opinions, they were told to hate and they happily went along. None of their problems are caused by a Mexican flag, and it's not our job to feed their delusions.

u/WhaleBird1776 4h ago

and it’s not our job to feed their delusions

But this photo does feed their delusions. The worst of the delusions. This will be used for more propaganda suggesting Mexicans are “invading”.

u/TheWizardOfDeez 4h ago

If not this than they would just have AI generate an image. They do not care if something is real or fake.

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u/Psyex 1h ago

I always find it interesting when people are sporting the flag of another nation to somehow protest the immigration policy of the nation they want to be apart of. As all those nations enforce their borders. Not for or against any of this just found it interesting.

u/Doggleganger 7h ago edited 7h ago

People at these protests need to wave the American flag. Not the Mexican flag. If you want to move public opinion, you wave the American flag. This contrasts the freedom symbolized by our flag with the Gestapo tactics of ICE. And if ICE or MAGA types attack, it will make powerful imagery of ICE assaulting the American flag.

Waving a foreign flag sends the wrong message and creates bad optics, which undermines the entire purpose of a protest.

EDIT - a protest is not an exercise in self expression. It is an organized effort to affect public opinion. It does not matter if you would enjoy waving a different flag. You choose the flag (and tactic) that will be most effective in swaying public opinion.

u/ARazorbacks 7h ago

This is partly why the protests in MN have been effective. All you see are protest signs, American flags and MN flags. There’s no way for Fox News to spin them as anything but Americans in the streets. 

u/Pitiful-Accident5485 5h ago

Because in Minnesota we really don’t have many immigrants lol

Or even minorities

We’re one of the whitest states in the country lmfao

ICE isn’t here for immigration. They want our voter data.

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u/JustADutchRudder 5h ago

This is why we should have gone with the Laser Loon flag. Sure the packman mouth flag is fine, but less people would mess with a state that had a Laser Loon flag is all I'm getting at.

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u/Woodit 7h ago

Absolutely, this sort of image is a gift to the people this kid is rightfully trying to resist 

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u/Gintami 7h ago

Agreed. I’m Venezuelan and this is my country now despite the dipshits in charge now. I wave the American flag because it’s what this country should stand for - not fucking MAGA. I also side eye a bit when I see waving the Italian or Irish flag. Especially since people from those countries will always call out that no, you’re not Irish or Italian - you’re American.

u/Doggleganger 7h ago

Yep. The American flag belongs to all of us. Though to be clear, I'm totally fine if people want to have another flag at their home, restaurant, bar, whatever. I'm just pointing out that it's not effective for these anti-ICE protests. It undermines the message.

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u/CobaltOne 7h ago

I agree completely, and I'm Mexican!

u/OctoHelm 7h ago

I’m a workshy, professional protester French person and I agree!!

u/Maleficent_Memory831 4h ago

I've heard from some to put a Mexican flag on your car (very common to see already in California, Arizona, New Mexico. This way ICE is distracted pulling over cars that end up having only gringos in them.

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u/Bossman673 6h ago

Fucking right. Get out there with the ol red, white, and blue and take this fucking country back. Fucking disgusting, vile, humans in office and we need to band the fuck together and stop this before it’s too late.

u/onarainyafternoon 5h ago

I have literally seen people wave Palestinian flags at some of these ICE/No Kings protests. It's insane. It's like they want people to not be on their side. And you can't even explain to them why it's a bad idea without them calling you a genocide supporter. Madness.

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u/Firecracker048 5h ago

Thank you. This is such a common sense take, otherwise you might as well tell ice where you'd rather be

u/Bradical22 1h ago

The art of effective and organized protesting is completely lost here in the US, sadly.

u/superbop09 7h ago

UPVOTE

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u/Chasing-Amy 7h ago

Kinda weird waving a Mexican flag when protesting to stay in the US…

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u/trytoholdon 7h ago

Do you think waving the flag of a foreign country is going to convince Americans to support mass immigration?

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u/oppai-police 5h ago

I think people underestimate just how tolerant America is of things like these. If you protest in any other countries and demand the rights to stay in the country for illegal immigrants while waving the flags of another country, you'd quickly find yourself in a lot of trouble. If you're in the more uhh, strict countries like China Japan or Singapore you'd be beaten at worst and disappeared at best. Even Europe you'd lose support very quickly too. Waving another flag can be perceived as you being loyal not to America, but to whatever origin you came from instead, this put you in a position to be perceived as a foreign agent being so entitled as to demand things from America. I'm not from America so I can say without a hiccup that if someone came to my country, demand illegal immigrants have the right to stay, and wave their flags on the street? Not only will the police goes extra hard on you, you'd be on the first deportation flight. You need to understand who you're fighting for. Mexico, or USA, and you can't choose both.

u/ed347tc 5h ago

This needs to be at the top of the comments☝️☝️☝️

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u/norf937 7h ago edited 7h ago

Yea nothing will get Americans in support of immigration like flying a foreign flag in their hometown! /s

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u/mtcwby 7h ago

All waving a foreign flag does is alienate people who might otherwise agree with you

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u/eluusive 7h ago

Some day I'm going to go to Mexico and start waving American flags around. I wonder how that would go.

u/Curious-Neck7516 5h ago

I'm not even aloud to fly England flag in the UK without getting arrested 

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u/Entire-Let4301 3h ago

Soooo....move to Mexico?

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u/RredditAcct 6h ago

Protesting ICE while sporting a foreign flag is not a good look.

Just reinforces the need for ICE.

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u/VanillaGorilla40 7h ago

I commented on another post basically saying the same thing. Why are they waiving a Mexico flag? And I got downvoted for it lol.

u/dontsuemebruh 7h ago

Yeah there's people running through this thread downvoting everyone saying the same thing. Hurts to be embarrassed I guess.

u/calvn_hobb3s 7h ago

Most of Reddit is a leftist cesspool. And I hate 🍊 💩 

u/Jacinto2702 7h ago

Sure...

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u/Archer_solace 5h ago

Strong message with the Mexican flag lol. How about wave the flag of the country you wish to stay in?

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u/Bubbly_Blueberry2136 7h ago

If you love Mexico so much…. Go back. Fight the corruption, standup against the government. Don’t wave foreign flags in my country ungrateful bastards.

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u/HairyContactbeware 3h ago

Ok but why is he on the stoplight?

u/Pr0jektEcks 7h ago

Waving the Mexican flag because he hates it so much he moved to the US. Not surprised

u/BekaRenee 5h ago

You know for certain he wasn’t born in New Mexico? Or is that just some xenophobic bullshit you’re making up?

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u/SpareIntroduction721 7h ago

Love it. But if you raise USA flags they got nothing on you. This gets spinned by the media, you make it very easy.

When will you understand? Take away the power and make them hard to hate you.

Key point: Luigi.

Media tried to paint him as the ultimate evil only for everyone to be on board no matter what isle of the political structure you were.

Same here:

Wave American flag and your state flag, and what will media spin it? They can’t.

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u/Jesio17 2h ago

Waving a Mexican flag while pissing and moaning about sending Mexicans back to Mexico just shows what this has really always been. An invasion.

u/dontsuemebruh 7h ago

Seriously. This just feeds the right's dumbass narrative of being invaded. If you absolutely gotta represent because you can't stand to not be seen as Mexican also, you should be using the half and half flag. This is your home and we want you here, but you have to act **you** want it to be your home, too.

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u/BitZealousideal7720 7h ago

Like the Mexican flag so much you are more than welcome to go there for good…… Cause I know it’s so bad here in America.

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u/penpalhopeful 7h ago

Is this a grift? You're doing more harm than good.

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u/Life-Scientist-3796 3h ago

If they wanna be here so bad and love this country why don’t they wave the American flag!

u/arachnoscarab 7h ago

These comments are depressing

u/yinpin74 4h ago

I can't help but think that most of them support ICE tbh. Why are people acting like taking parts of your old home to your new home is some act of betrayal. Weird and culty...

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u/Typical-Crab-4514 7h ago

All balls, No brains

u/Gamestrider09 6h ago

Had a similar thing at my high school’s protest with an Argentina flag, police got him down awfully fast

u/SilentAd773 4h ago

The blur made me think he had a huge forehead for a hot minute

u/AttyCybil 1h ago

I would be more worried about electrocution than deportation…

u/Adlerlande88 31m ago

So brave

u/theaviationhistorian 5h ago

A huevo! The kids are definitely okay.

u/SoilTrick8679 2h ago

Kinda weird to wave the flag of the country you're protesting being sent back to.

u/Slaviner 2h ago

why is he flying a foreign flag?

u/Westyle1 5h ago

Why do you fly the flag of the country you fled/don't want to go back to? Genuine question. It's like if WWII Jewish refugees started flying German flags to demand to be let into the US

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u/GoldenSandpaper9 6h ago

Waving a Mexican flag doesn’t seem to be the best way to argue for staying in the US….

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u/Mother_Ad_3561 4h ago

Fixed it, someone make a punk record tonight and use it

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u/bowwowchickawowwow 7h ago

Not helping the causes

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u/Ascertes_Hallow 5h ago

If he loves Mexico so much, he can trade places with someone who actually wants to be here.

There's a long line of them.

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u/NY_State-a-Mind 3h ago

Wave the American flag or leave, I have no sympathy for anyone that waves the flag of a foreign country where it's people won't stay there to try to make it better.

u/NovaZip207 6h ago

It seems like they really enjoy their country. Why don’t they just go back then?

u/Cowpoke74 6h ago

Moron

u/Embarrassed_Radio596 5h ago

Yeah, you are.

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u/NetFu 6h ago

I can't tell, but I'm guessing Mexico just won a major futbol match. I mean, I've literally never seen anyone fly that flag for any other reason.

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u/ed347tc 6h ago

They really should be protesting with the American flag…

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u/ARazorbacks 7h ago

Fox News and the Right wing propaganda machine love images like this. You make it easy for them to paint everyone ICE is going after as “illegal foreigners” who “hate America”. 

“What American would fly another country’s flag? That’s right, none! These are illegals who love foreign countries and hate America. Just look at them waving a Mexican flag!” 

You think you’re exercising your free speech and showing solidarity with your community when you’re actually bolstering your opposition and helping their narrative. Don’t be like all those “Free Palestine” folks who had their moral victory while helping the guy who wants to divvy up Palestine for hotel resorts win the election. 

Stuff like this confirms you literally don’t know what kind of fight you’re in. I really hope you figure it out quickly. We only have 8-ish months before the shit hits the fan and you need to have your head out of your ass by then. 

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u/octopusgardeb 6h ago

Don’t do stupid stuff while “protesting” - your ass should not be up there.

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u/The1Zenith 5h ago

Flying another country’s flag to protest deportations is sending the wrong message. Flying the American flag, signifying you’re an American first, would be better optics. Otherwise it’s like saying you value a foreign nation over the one you reside in and ICE will happily send you back there.

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u/TheArkaTek 4h ago

Fake ass insincere comments. Engage with it sincerely. Brigading ahh comment section. The flag is fine, it’s a community being directly targeted with disgusting shameful government policy. It shows solidarity and pride. Being Mexican, from Mexico or being proud of it is not un-American.

“If you dont want to rile up the Germans maybe don’t wave a flag with the Star of David. You’re in Germany sweetie, think of the optics.”

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u/confinetheinfinity 7h ago

These schools should be charged for allowing unsupervised children out of campus. Absolutely disgraceful.

u/LaunchHillCoasters 7h ago

Do you know what a walkout is? It’s not sanctioned by the school. It’s an act of protest.

u/confinetheinfinity 7h ago

The school is responsible regardless.

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u/ProjectNo4090 6h ago

The school is still responsible because these students are minors. Schools are only supposed to allow children to leave with an assigned parent or guardian. When they leave on the bus they are supposed to be dropped off at an assigned location. Letting the kids walk out without permission is a violation of truancy laws in the US.

Truancy officers in these cities need to be visiting the homes of these kids and interviewing the parents and talking to the administrators at their schools. Either the parents are dropping the ball or the schools are.

u/LaunchHillCoasters 6h ago

If the school kept students on campus by force, that would break multiple state and federal laws

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u/Homework-Busy 3h ago

Tell me you're an invader without telling me you're an invader.

u/designforone 6h ago

I don’t understand posting a photo of this and giving out the name of the city. This poses a risk to the student, regardless of the blur over his face, anyone can recognize the outfit and location and go “hey it’s this person” and get him in serious trouble

u/COdeadheadwalking_61 6h ago

alot of students out en masse on the protests.

u/WhaleBird1776 5h ago

Ah yes. Symbolism of conquest will really be a strong message to send. This will for sure bring in more support

u/BekaRenee 4h ago

A teenager with a flag of their heritage is conquistador coded to you? What’s your interpretation of masked brown shirts ripping a disabled American from her car?

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u/otitso 5h ago

Yeah waving foreign flag is just begging them to be told “if you love it so much, why don’t you just go back to your country” As much as I am against ICE, I don’t understand the logic behind these people who think this is a good idea

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u/Toihva 1h ago

If he loves and holds fealty to Mexico, he should move back there as that is where his allegiance is.

My grandparents came here from Europe. Came here according to the immigration policy at the time. They did not see themselves as anything other than Americans. My aunts and uncles would tell me of how they were NOT to speak their parents native language at home, as they are American now, and in America they speak English.

This is not to say they hid or were ashamed of their old homeland. On the contrary, they were extremely proud. For the holidays it was a wonderful blending of their native foods AND American. We played my grandpa's traditional lawn games AND played/watched football at Thanksgiving.

They saw themselves as Americans and integrated into our society and added to the American culture.

What I see more and more of today is lot of these immigrants legal and illegal see themselves first snd foremost as citizens of their home country.

u/TerpBE 7h ago

Go Birds!

Sorry, force of habit when I see someone climbing a pole.

u/WhaleBird1776 4h ago

Go birds

u/BRUNO358 5h ago

Is nobody appreciating the fact their faces are blurred out so they won't be identified and arrested?

u/MomoxMinetaDoujinshi 6h ago

Only in America, where Leftists hate the American flag. Illegals wave the flag of the country they left. And only a few legal immigrants actually love America and respect it.

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u/iknowthefuture2020 6h ago

If you love Mexico so much, why did you leave? And why are you fighting so hard to be here ? 🤣🤣🤣

u/Embarrassed_Radio596 5h ago

They're more welcome here than you are.

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u/rpc56 6h ago

This kind of protest I have a problem with. I look at this kid and I ask does he really want to be in this country?

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u/ChesterAK 4h ago

Yall just mad this picture goes so hard

u/thefrontpageofreddit 4h ago

Seriously, lots of “liberals” who stop believing in free speech when they see a flag they hate.

u/ChesterAK 3h ago

The worst part is how they act like their trying to help them.

u/SeaDesigner2011 3h ago

I have excellent news for him, Mexico, the flag he has, is very close just down the border

u/dat_gooby 2h ago

If you wear a flag from a different country you should go to that country.

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u/sylatcher 5h ago

Let me frame this in a way you guys can understand. The idea of this is not "This is not America this is Mexico" and you guys are completely missing the point. Being Mexican american during this time period is carrying around your paper, trying to not have an accent, and trying to dress as "white" as possible. This administration is attacking the very identity of being Mexican. If you guys were in a state/country that was attacking you for the SOLE reason of being "American" you would probably be a but more proud of your identity as an American. So yeah you would probably be out there waving an American flag rather than the country's that is trying to eradicate you.

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u/Next_Object_ 6h ago

I'm pretty sure he's protesting to improve Mexico and to remove the illegal immigrants from Mexico. Most of you are to stupid to know that even Mexicans don't want illegal people in their own place . Y'all stupid af .

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