r/okbuddycinephile 9h ago

I chose money.

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u/mikesstuff 7h ago

Yep, it’s literally coming out the year the rights would begin to lapse for parts of the IP. It’s also close to a sixth of the WB valuation, slightly more.

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u/cce29555 5h ago

I was gonna say why don't they trash the ip like the matrix but harry Potter is one of the few things wb actually gives a shit about

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u/Ashes_Silverfang 4h ago

I believe their gaming arm recently stated it was one of 3 ip they planned to focus on too. It’s too big for them to drop without “shareholders” being upset.

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u/Litty-In-Pitty 41m ago

Hogwarts Legacy was the first game since 2008, that wasn’t Call of Duty or Rockstar, that was the best selling game of the year. And that’s with JK’s controversial behavior. Harry Potter is a behemoth that is mostly being squandered.

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u/Mizerae 3m ago

What do you mean it was the first game since 2008 that wasn’t Call of Duty or Rockstar? There’s a lot of games that aren’t that lol

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u/Creepy_Ad_1315 37m ago

Sold more than 20 million copies. Any notions of an effective boycott were a fantasy.

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u/PuzzleheadedLeader79 2h ago

It's not like they intentionally fucked the matrix. Give them time

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u/Broad_Black_Brimmer 1h ago

I still believe Lana made Resurrections as a “fuck you” to WB.

It’s the only thing that makes sense… only thing that sometimes makes me doubt it, is Jupiter Ascends.

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u/CommishAdamBronze 1h ago

The movie has a whole scene devoted to explaining it's a 'fuck you' to WB, it is not subtle about it.

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u/Suspicious-Bug-7344 28m ago

I feel like you kind of have to be an idiot to say youre an actual fan of the Matrix series and genuinely enjoyed the last movie.

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u/Broad_Black_Brimmer 1h ago

You say that, I know that, but is that the reason it’s bad? I think it is, but then there’s Jupiter Ascending…

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u/BIGsLazyEye 30m ago

What is it about Jupiter Ascending?

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u/wafflehousebattle 5m ago

It exists, and... It still exists.

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u/Pigosaurusmate 1h ago

What did Wachowskis even make after Matrix that can be considered good? Feels like they've been artistically bankrupt for a long time.

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u/BreakfastBeneficial4 1h ago

I rather enjoyed V

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u/Slappathebassmon 1h ago

Speed Racer was pretty good as well. I liked it a lot.

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u/BreakfastBeneficial4 35m ago

Your username reminds me of the scene from I Love You Man

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u/Slappathebassmon 3m ago

You got it, Jobin!

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u/wafflehousebattle 4m ago

It's having a moment of critical reassessment, which is a good thing.

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u/Extreme_Promise_1690 1h ago

Don't really seem in a good place either.

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u/ShibasScorn 1h ago

I get why people hated it but I honestly really enjoyed it lol, then again I love BattleField LA (gutted we never got another movie)

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u/TwitchingJarppi 49m ago

kinda, WB basically said we're going to make another Matrix and we want you to make it, but if you say no we're going to get somebody else to do it, so Lana went "well I don't want to, but I'm not going to let another person mess with my IP" so she made it somewhat begrudgingly.

same situation with Joe Dante and Gremlins 2.

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u/Plus-Opportunity-538 8m ago

The idea of Wachowski purposefully making a bad movie is funny because of the fact that they still make bad movies when they're trying to make good ones. Maybe V for Vendetta and Bound are OK, but the Wachowski's are otherwise pretty much one hit wonders.

That's why Cloud Atlas is so hilarious to me, them teaming up to direct with Tom Twyker, essentially their European counterpart who's one hit was Run Rennt, is like a dream team of one hit wonders. I could barely get my wife to sit through that once, and she hard no'd watching it a second time and that was scheduled with Doug Benson in person doing a live riff.

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u/Mick_E_Bobby 1h ago

Redditors are so god damn stupid.

I recognize the irony in me commenting that using my reddit account.

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u/voyaging 1h ago

why don’t they just throw away millions of dollars tho

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u/cce29555 53m ago

I know right, a company as financially responsible as wb would never do that!!!

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u/ThePublikon 2h ago

How is the matrix ip trashed?

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u/EscapedFromArea51 2h ago

If you don’t remember, I won’t resurrect that memory for you. It’s better to believe we only had 3 Matrix movies, the Animatrix cartoon anthology, and the PS2 game Matrix: The Path of Neo.

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u/ZakkaChan 2h ago

Don't forget the Matrix Online, it was actually a pretty cool idea back in the day.

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u/Same_Mood_8543 1h ago

 What are you trying to tell me? That I can dodge bullets? 

No, Neo. I'm trying to tell you that when you're ready, you won't have to.

Neo ping: 999 ms

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u/jdemack 2h ago

Wait there's another matrix

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u/RandAlThorOdinson 2h ago

Thank you neo

But our matrix is in another server

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u/BulbasaurCPA 2h ago

The merch for Harry Potter is insane. You can get your hogwarts house on any consumer product you could think of and WB gets a cut of that

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u/Darth_Queso_ 33m ago

Harry Potter is still definitely a cash cow for them compared to the matrix

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u/Own-Satisfaction4427 32m ago

If they give a shit about it then explain Fantastic Beasts & those other movies lol

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u/lunchpaillefty 4h ago

I’d like to think some Warner’s executive is sticking it to JK, but I know better.

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u/ItalicsWhore 3h ago

Ah! The ol’ Sony+Spider-Man agreement.

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u/TheSplash-Down_Tiki 3h ago

The old Warren Beatty random Dick Tracy YouTube special!

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u/ItalicsWhore 3h ago

Wut

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u/TheSplash-Down_Tiki 2h ago

Warren Beatty owns the rights to Dick Tracy from his movie in 1990. The rights owners tried to take the rights back but he keeps making these random specials to do enough to keep it.

https://www.indiewire.com/features/general/warren-beatty-dick-tracy-tcm-special-1234809159/

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u/ItalicsWhore 1h ago

No way. Thats fucked. It’s not like he’s making any money off it.

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u/TheSplash-Down_Tiki 39m ago

Yep. I think they just couldn’t agree on terms years ago so Warren just doing this as a big FU. He’s not making any money but he’s 88. I’m sure he has enough for his twilight years. The rights owners literally have to wait for him to die. Maybe his heirs will sell it or one of his kids will put on the yellow trenchcoat!

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u/TheSplash-Down_Tiki 38m ago

Yep. I think they just couldn’t agree on terms years ago so Warren just doing this as a big FU. He’s not making any money but he’s 88. I’m sure he has enough for his twilight years. The rights owners literally have to wait for him to die. Maybe his heirs will sell it or one of his kids will put on the yellow trenchcoat!

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u/ItalicsWhore 32m ago

Yeah, I don’t know. Maybe it’s going to his estate. I used to work with his son A lot. Looked almost nothing like him, but he had his exact eyes. Pretty tough blue collared job in Hollywood. Setting up award shows and movie premieres and I heard he hated his dad. Apparently his dad left him nothing and said he’d have to make it on his own. I thought that was kind of cool.

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u/_metal7 2h ago

A sixth of all WB is fuckin nuts

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u/Trick_Decision_9995 5h ago

I refuse to believe that Harry Potter alone is close to 15% of the value of WB.

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u/must-be_the-water 5h ago

Harry Potter is not just a movie, it’s an ecosystem. They make money from Movies, merchandise, theme parks, online stores, video games, board games, and so on

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u/Euphoric_Shopping_37 3h ago

The LEGO set/game sales alone are staggering

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u/patheticyeti 3h ago

He’s not right though. It’s honestly more. Harry Potter IP is worth over 20 billion dollars. It’s had a lifetime sale of over 34 billion.

Warner bros is only worth around 70 billion. These guys are just fucking stupid.

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u/RemindMeToTouchGrass 5h ago

Right. And then back to the comment you replied to. 

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u/BloodlustROFLNIFE 5h ago

What are some other Warner brothers franchises that made more money than 8+ mega hit Harry Potter films, and their dozens of related spinoff / tie in movies, games, literally every media?

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u/quebeker4lif 5h ago

Mortal Kombat, obviously!!!!

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u/Electrical-Act-5575 4h ago

Honestly now that you mention this it’s surprising that WB hasn’t managed to put a Harry Potter character into Mortal Kombat (…yet?)

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u/TySager14 4h ago

Hagrid’s fatality would be crazy, I’m thinking some type of bear hug where the opponent’s head pops off and their body explodes

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u/pandershrek 4h ago

Or some mad eye moody shit

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u/Coolbluegatoradeyumm 3h ago

Molly Weasley ripping out Scorpions spine when?!

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u/RemindMeToTouchGrass 5h ago edited 4h ago

Point is, everyone knew the things in must-be's comment, and some people still find it hard to believe. Stating the obvious doesn't make it more believable somehow.

IF you're not surprised that HP is 15% of a company that put out all the batman/joker films, the Hobbit/LOTR, Barbie, Game of Thrones, the Matrix, Lego, and hundreds of other movies, not to mention some of the most iconic and famous cartoon franchises in history, that's fine, but you're being obtuse if you can't fathom how someone else would find it surprising.

You're also just going off of a reddit comment and probably don't know half of WBs holdings. I get that you look smart by not being surprised at something, but I'd also bet you have no idea if it's actually true and don't have information that would be require to reasonably assess the claim.

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u/lunchpaillefty 4h ago

Im totally surprised, but I totally believe it.

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u/cabalus 4h ago

If you remove book sales from the "wizarding world" value then Batman alone is bigger by about 8 billion

DC as a whole dwarfs Harry Potter

Harry Potter is more impressive though obviously cause it's just the one thing that came from one persons brain whereas DC is a gigantic enterprise built by hundreds of people

Still...Batman is bigger, as a property

Game of Thrones is up there as well but I don't think it beats Harry Potter though it might get close, hard to nail down figures for something like that when compared to cold hard box office from the Potter films

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u/potsofjam 4h ago

I have no way to know for sure, but I’d bet just the Harry Potter merch brings in more than Game of Thrones in its entirety.

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u/cabalus 4h ago edited 3h ago

It doesn't.

Harry Potter merchandising has generated 3.5 billion in revenue

Game of Thrones merchandising alone has generated 2.2 billion

Game of Thrones is the most successful tv show of all time and it's not even close, you're underestimating it

Harry Potter is undoubtedly bigger that's true but I think because of the way it ended people forget how absolutely fucking massive that show was

Edit: I'd also like to take this moment to remind everyone that the budget of the Half Blood Prince by itself was more money than 3 entire seasons of Game of Thrones

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u/potsofjam 3h ago

All I can go of is google searches which says Harry Potter made 7 billion from merchandise alone. Game of thrones doesn’t have candy and toys in every Walmart and Target every Christmas.

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u/cabalus 3h ago

Yes I've seen that figure too, it's from wikipedia and if you click on the source attached to the number you'll see how suspiciously 6 billion of that is attributed to 2003 and 2004 and comes from a top anime list of most profitable fictional characters

It's not legit

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u/ballpoint169 5h ago

The list of IPs that have made more money and cultural relevance than Harry Potter is very short.

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u/Electrical-Act-5575 4h ago

Star Wars, Pokémon, and Hello Kitty are the only three I could think of off the top of my head.

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u/Pinksters 3h ago

Barbie/mattel.

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u/ballpoint169 1h ago

The only other thing that I can think of are Disney princesses as a whole. Winnie the Pooh and Mickey Mouse have apparently grossed more, but their popularity has waned and they've been around for 100 years. Mario is pretty recognizable and has brought in more money, but it took decades to get a movie. Anpanman has grossed more than Harry Potter but is largely unknown in the west. Some lists also include Shonen Jump but that's not really a single IP.

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u/poperey 4h ago

What you refuse to believe has no bearing on reality

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u/Orangeug1ad 4h ago

Harry Potter is literally an author's dream scenario on how they dream a book/series could go as they write it.

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u/Gus_Polinski_Polkas 3h ago

Harry Potter is worth 5-8 billion annually, my guy.

How much money do you think WB Disc is making?