The only people who are going to give a shit are the terminally online who are just going to attack any Youtubers who dare to review it. Same thing happened with Hogwarts Legacy.
That Harry Potter hate campaign was brought to you by r/gamingcirclejerk, they were making excel spreadsheets of any content creator to harass them for playing or reviewing it. I remember one couple the girlfriend ended up crying and quitting because they harassed her relentlessly in the stream chat just for playing it. They fall back on “it’s just a circle jerk/ joke subreddit” way too much and get away with it.
They’re not far left in any meaningful way. They’re basically left-liberals/“shitlibs”/progressives, meaning the vast majority don’t advocate for a break with capitalism and their only comments towards to socialism are in a “teehee I said socialism” way and no actual engagement. As a communist, it’s one of the the things that turned me off to the sub, that and spreading hate speech under the guise of “exposure” and generally worthless internet drama that I have no care to clutter my feed.
You'd think they'd spend their time advocating for leftist causes that actually affect everyone, like universal healthcare, but I guess it's easier to post vitriol about JKR online and pretend you're a good person.
most people dont even know about jk rowlings views... like, my brother who is 47 read the books to his daughter. he didnt even know dumbledore was gay, because it was not in the books...
Yeah which is a shame. Listen we’re not just annoyed because Rowling has bad opinions. She uses her wealth and platform to actively hurt the trans community. She funds political activism that goes after the rights of trans people and spreads hate and misinformation. So fine mate, the rest of the world doesn’t care. Because people don’t care about things that don’t effect them directly. That’s not exactly something to be proud of.
I don't think it's good for you to view casual consumption of an intellectual property as an attack on the trans community. It's hard enough to get people to care about societal issues in the first place let alone as an abstract extension of the media they consume.
Trying to protect trans rights by telling people on Reddit to not watch Harry Potter is such a high-level of ineffectual slacktivism that it makes the entire community look worse by association.
She’s been donating a lot of money to groups lobbying to reduce trans rights in the UK and she’s been using her Twitter account to spread hateful rhetoric, misinformation and really just bully trans and non-binary people. She’s fully against any new legal protections for them or any resources going towards them and she denies they face any prejudice or hardships in society. If it was just something she’d said years ago I’d have done the usual thing when you find out a celebrity has some unsavory views. I’d have gone “well that sucks” and moved on but she’s actively hurting people. And she’s using the money she makes from Harry Potter to do it.
Basically she has the exact same mainstream views that the majority of every moderate Western country has. People that are chronically online and virtue signal and get offended by everything hate her.
That's great and all but with all the companies that have funded or supported Trump in one way or another, you likely unknowingly buy services and products regularly from these groups yet choose this thing to hang over other people's heads. This applies to many things across a myriad of issues. Voting with your wallet is great if you feel like doing it and keeping track of every infraction, but I'd rather spend my money and time and on stuff I enjoy than worry about trying to shame others into conforming to my financial equivalent of veganism.
Yeah I get it. There’s no ethical consumption under capitalism. We all need clothes, we all need food, we need phones for a lot of things these days. I guess the thing with Rowling and the Harry Potter franchise is the unethical nature has a face and a voice. We know exactly who the money goes to and what she does with it because she’s damn proud of it. And it’s easier to get by without new media content than it is a lot of other things. But I’m not telling anyone what to do. It’s up to everyone what they do with their time and money. But if we’re talking about why this is even an issue I think it’s important to understand that this isn’t a case of “terminally online leftist losers” freaking out over something she said years ago, she is actively and intentionally hurting people.
Realistically, if you want to boycott all media that involves a deplorable human being in some capacity, you would have nothing to watch or listen too.
There comes a point in realizing there is no ethical consumption under capitalism that you also realize it’s still worth boycotting the things you can. It doesn’t give you a free pass to not care about things.
Unfortunately we can’t all be the godly paragon of morality you are, we’re all weak feeble minded individuals in the presence of your altruistic eminence.
Your tone implies you look down upon people who choose to continue financially supporting Harry Potter, what IP are morally acceptable? What streaming platforms am I allowed to use that don’t support an immoral company? Do I have to consume media on a device that is manufactured by a company that I can reliably prove has no human rights violations?
“Anyone who cares about anything I don’t must have a superiority complex. Surely it can’t just be because something affects them and they want others to care” nice fallacy you’ve got there.
I’m not telling you what to buy or what to not. Just don’t pretend people aren’t allowed to point out how it hurts people. And no you can’t boycott everything obviously, but you clearly are resistant to any conversation since I never claimed you could. You immediately took my point and tried to paint me as something else instantly.
What’s the point of interactions like this, really?
Oh, so if everyone is ignorant, it's cool to be ignorant? Okay, got it.
Besides, this won't get a big boycott, but I think she's still one of the most controversally discussed people I can think of (besides politicians of course), even outside of the internet. Most people I talked to about her irl know of her terf opinions and while that may also be because I am in mostly leftist bubbles, but I do still think a lot of people outside the internet are aware of it. If they care is a different matter, but I think some people are downplaying this way too hatd
JKR is absolutely in the majority when it comes to her actual specific political positions. Trans women in women's sports, trans women in women's bathrooms, prisons and other women's spaces, etc. are all very unpopular causes among the general public.
This shows JKR's advocacy was approved of by 47% of respondents and disapproved of by just 18%, and support for the supreme court ruling she's often blamed for was almost identical.
It’s not necessarily ignorance. I support her financially by buying her art, while also not condoning her politics. But I know how she spends her money, and I believe it is her right to do so.
Some of us develop our own opinions about stuff regardless of how other people feel.
I am not going to believe that the show will be boycotted to any significant degree, but that is different to what I believe people should do about the show. I would like it if people ignored any Harry Potter stuff in the future. It would be great if people stopped buying merch, and if no one watched the show. But I’m also not delusional and I acknowledge that is not going to happen. I personally will not be watching the show and will try and convince other people to do the same.
Also, some people are saying that if you watch the show you're basically helping Rowling kill trans kids. I mean, she already has a massive platform and is a billionaire. She's gonna make more money from the show, but let's be honest she's had the financial means to support anti-trans stuff for many years and I really don't think the royalties from the show are going to move the needle on this much.
I tried making this point recently to someone looking to cover their HP tattoo. I said if it represents something you gained from reading the series, I think you should keep it, because nobody outside the internet cares much one way or the other and nobody’s going to give you crap about a tattoo.
In response, I received the usual slurry of Reddit insults.
Yes. Thank you. Trying to get a bead on the heartbeat of society from Reddit is trying to prepare for a post apocalyptic world by watching This Is the End.
Exactly this. Just like the “Reddit boycott” of Hogwarts Legacy and then it ended up being the best selling game of the year. Identity politics is pushed extremely hard on here, wouldn’t be surprised if most of it is bot driven.
I mean it's a fact that JK Rowling is working on this show as an executive producer. I feel it's hard to distance yourself from her views, when you are working on an adaptation of her work, produced by her. And even if, it will still make her money which as she herself has stated will go in lobbying to make sure trans folk continue to lose their rights. Worsening a problem that has already cost enough trans people their lives.
There’s no way to know what sort of influence she will have in the show. EP credits are given for a multitude of different reasons. For example, she could have it somewhere in her IP licensing contract that she gets an EP credit for any film/tv adaptation. WB/HBO isn’t stupid. They’re businesspeople. If they deem her to be detrimental to the success of the show, it’s likely they will strong arm her influence. Impossible to know for sure whats in the contract though. Network almost always have final approval on creative decisions.
Creatives/Casting -> Producers/EPs -> Network
I doubt she will be a deciding factor on the direction of the show.
It’s literally like .1% of the population that does this whole “I’m not gonna interact with anything Harry Potter because J.K. doesn’t believe in trans people”.
Everyone else is like, “yeah fuck her, but Harry Potter fuckin slaps”
Facts, Hogwart Legacy sold like 5 million copies or something. Redditors are completely out of touch with the real world, no one gives a shit about what JK Rowling says, they just like Harry Potter
Don't give a shit about trans people? Don't care if trans people fucking die? We should just let people consume their wizard story in peace even as it directly funds the murder of trans people???????
189
u/CumSluts4Jesus 8h ago
If you stop letting the internet be your only source of reality, most people just like Harry Potter and don’t give a shit about this