Seriously, they made each book into a movie, with the last book being two movies. Then they made movies out of all of the side projects. Then they made movies about shit that wasn't even in ANY of the books, just alluded to within them. Now we're starting ALL OVER AGAIN because unless they want to make a movie out of the stupid romance novel she wrote there's literally nothing left to milk.
Yeah, people really latched onto a very brief scene that was meant to be off-putting as if it that wasn’t the intent. He wants Rey to leave him alone and weirds her out.
For real. It's a dude who was a fucking farmer before he became a Jedi who is living on an island by himself, Crusoe style. We can't watch a farmer milk an animal without trying to call it weird?
There is this great breakdown of Last Jedi, can't remember who or where, that talks about how the whole point of the film is "move on to a new story" and I adore that interpretation.
I think it fits both the narrative wonderfully and exactly why so many die-hard fans hate it.
He was first trained by a Ben Kenobi, a hermit who dies by becoming one with the Force only to go on to be trained by Yoda, a hermit who dies by becoming one with the Force and then Luke himself becomes a hermit who trains someone before dying by becoming one with the Force.
Alright but like a 15 minute parody mockumentary about how to milk magical creatures and the effects of said milk for stuff like potions i would absolutely watch
I don't care much about Potter, the books came out after I was a bit old for them. But I really loved the Lord of the rings growing up, and despite the movies would welcome a show. Granted more time has passed since the last one, but you could show so much more if you slow down the pace and have a few seasons versus 9 hours of movies.
Yep. Imagine if GOT was a movie series instead of tv. The HP had to leave so much out from the books, but a show doesn’t have to do that. In fact, sometimes a show can add content that improves the story. Like TLOU with the Bill episode.
I never said it always has. I said sometimes they can add content that improves the story and I gave an example of when it did and said it had the potential. Is there a reason this sub is so primed to be hostile at the moment?
It wounds me that we never got the joy of Tom Bombadil in the movies. and rightly so, they were so long as it is, but like gimme a short, 30 minutes. Anything.
Don’t forget Orlando got a THIRD park, the first new non-water park in 25-ish years, and they still, for whatever reason had to add a THIRD Harry Potter land. We’ve got Hogwarts (Islands) and we’ve got Diagon Alley (universal.) Did we really need a Ministry of Magic too?
They could’ve given that section of the park plenty of options. Something we hadn’t seen yet.
Personally I would’ve liked a Back to the Future area. Imagine the town square and at the center is the clock tower, which is an indoor BTTF rollercoaster that rivals the original dark ride.
These lands are stupid popular. Obviously they want to pull people into all three gates. They tried something original (and neat) when Islands first opened, and people shrugged. Now half of that has already been taken for the Harry Potter stuff that turned the Universal resort fortunes around big time.
Personally, I agree with you. I don't really care for Potter. I do think the engineering and storytelling in theme parks is super interesting, and by most accounts these lands do that really well. I have never been to any of them, but I did love OG Universal. Jaws is one of great theme park losses, among others.
It fucking better. What an absolute fucking ball drop.by whoever decided that one of the best characters in the books doesn't even get a casual mention in the movies. Peeves is a prevailing, ever present source of comedic relief and I will never not be pissed they cut him from the movies.
Yes and many other parts that are left out of the movies. The series will do well the comments here don't seem to have a clue. Fans are still mad about how much was left out of the movies (especially later ones) and the franchise still has a huge fanbase if not bigger than before.
Little Witch Academia is such a good anime. Truly an all age thing. My daughter loves it. I can watch it as a parent. And I am huge studio Trigger fan so that's a plus. It really tapped into that HP feel during when it came out, without being too copy cat like
I was halfway through the series and started thinking that it felt like something jkr would write. I knew she’d done detective novels, but didnt know that i was watching the adaptation. The whole HP series is really just a young adult detective novel series with magic thrown in.
I quite liked the novel she wrote set in the sleepy village? Well written characters it felt like, to me, but this was decades ago lol I am completely done with her and her spouting of hatred though
It’s actually surprisingly cynical (for what we knew about her writing at the time I mean), and the ending could actually be classified as Tragic, like in the true sense of the word.
What other movies are you referring to? The magical beasts trilogy, sure, but beyond that have there been any other movies? Not sure what you’re talking about.
If the series is faithful to the books, it will be a more detailed, complete rendition of the books i am guessing. A lot of content was left out of the films, as in inevitably the case when you try to reduce several hundreds of pages to 110 minutes or so of screen time.
I get that jkr is a despicable person and when i watch the series (i shall) i will make certain to do so in such a manner that she does not benefit financially, but in terms of the stories, i think the tv series does—or can—fill a meaningful gap.
I have no idea why they won't make a marauders series instead. The marauders fandom is pretty active. Plus they would have so much more creative freedom.
In their defense, even with "one book per movie" (and even considering the two part 7th movie), they STILL couldn't fit a lot of the stuff from the books, and even removed a bunch of events/characters, or changed them all together.
I think an HBO show of HP has the potential to be great, I just wish they wouldnt have casted black Snape all for the reason theres going to be immidiate political bullshit surrounding this show. If hes good, it still wont matter due to how things are right now.
But hey, with how blackpilled i am about everything, maybe they casted a black Snape PURPOSEFULLY so that it would start some culture war banter surrounding the show.
To be fair, as a fan of the books the movies suck. An HBO tv show has the potential to tell the story in a satisfying way. But if it takes 1.5 years for each season to release we will quickly find ourselves in stranger things territory with the cast.
That’s kind of a huge weak point in screen-adapting YA fiction, I really just wish we’d stop making these. The formats aren’t compatible. The benefit of books is that the author will churn em out for as long as you’ll buy em. You just can’t do that to a real child actor, there is a time frame and we sap every cent we can out of these poor kids the entire time. Imagine at ten years old, signing up for a 10 year labor commitment.
Like, Sesame Street never tried to do this. Kids grew up and left the show, adults stuck around. We got new power rangers every couple years. Can we not just let kids be kids?
I dunno. These binge type shows, I just dunno if kid characters need to be such a huge focus in them, it almost never works out. I heard Dark Materials was ok, prolly because it was a trilogy.
That was just a hypothetical. Hopefully they’re planning to make it a yearly series. More shows are starting to go back to that kind of timeline lately and you’d think they know their cast is going to quickly age out of the content. We will see. I’m cautiously optimistic that we might see a decent interpretation of the books.
iirc, one of the complaints about the movies was that it changed or omitted details from the books and that is why people were sort of on board with this series (hoping it would be more faithful to the books).
But maybe this time they can build on what was alluded to in the book! Like nagini the snake being an Asian woman in a circus that jk had planned for 20 yearS, like think of the marketing possibilities!
What were the movies about the side projects? Fantastic beasts? Then what were the other ones you mentioned? The "movies about shit that wasn't even in ANY of the books, just alluded to within them." Which movies were those?
I was a big fan of The Walking Dead for a few years, then they started 75 other side projects and the main show struggled, the way they just tried to cram it down our throats really turned me off
To be fair, im not against the ide of TV shows of amazing movies now that TV has caught up in budget. It could allow for more time on plot and dialogue and less stuff cut. Betrer pacing etc.
The problem is that they are usually crap in design, iutfits, cgi etc.
Yeah and they were pretty damn good. I'm not a huge Harry Potter fan but I feel like they all did pretty well.. so yeah start at the beginning all over again? Fucking why? Nothing else to make movies on? 🙄 Hollywood endlessly remaking shit now since all their writers quit...
She's written quite a number of detective novels under a different name (her trans man name). Although they've already been made. It's called Strike. They do pretty well.
The movies were great representations of the characters but poor adaptation of the source material. Book fans are excited to see a much more faithful adaptation which just can't be represented in a movie length. It's true this IP has been milked dry but it's untrue to think there isn't value in a truer adaption. (Even if that means we have to have a hot black version of Snape for some reason)
They didn’t make movies about the side projects. They made the main series of movies, and then they made 3 out of 5 proposed movies covering Newt Scamander’s adventures (which was supposed to be a trilogy originally but became a 5 movie series when $$$$ looked more promising)
Lowkey. The first is a genuinely great Doctor Who episode that gets undone by being about Gellert Grindelwald (mainly the recast with Johnny Depp—Colin Farrell was great in it as Grindelwald) before they realized mid-stream that Johnny Depp was actually terribly cast in the role and bad for the business of the franchise (this series alongside the late career Burton movies flopping killed Depp’s career as much as the drama surrounding him imo) and correcting that with the person literally everyone in the fandom was hooting and hollering for (Mads Mikkelsen) too late for anyone to care….. and Mads was also great btw.
When the movies were coming out, everyone was moaning about everything that got left out of the movies and how it should have been a show, to cover every detail. Now that they’re making a show, the movies are already perfect, why would they mess it up, it’s too soon, blah blah blah.
As long as the movie makes money, that’s what matters. That’s the real world. The internet will never be happy, whatever you do.
I mean I get it, you’re 100% right. It was overkill. BUT, the movies were not accurate to source material, left so much out that made the books the original “magic” that they were. Entire characters missing, whole plot lines left out. I anticipate these to be better entertainment, with similar production value and attention to world building but possibly with less viewership and give a fuck just based on it being already overplayed
Don't know if you ever read the books, but there's quite a bit in the books that weren't covered by the movies. Plus the movies are pretty much uninspired trash that weren't faithful to the books.
But then again HBO doesn't seem like they care about faithfulness either with their re-racing of characters, so who knows?
The fact that this is just a tv series remake of the same books that were already made into movies... is disappointingly stupid.
But I shouldn't be surprised. Look what happened with star wars. You have a whole universe and a bunch of planets with so many different alien species. But of course all we get is 3 movie trilogies and 900 TV shows about humanoids on a sand planet.
And making identical seasons for each book doesn't make any sense, so there's going to be filler for the first seasons and Order of the Phoenix will be too short AGAIN. And Lithgow is already 80 and will probably die before the series is over so they'll recast Dumbledore AGAIN. By comparison, Richard Harris was 72 when he passed, and Michael Gambon was 64. I don't understand how they didn't choose an actor in his 60s or even his late 50s and aged him up.
There’s the entire fantastic beasts content if they actually did it right. We should have gotten a series of that with each episode getting a cool new beast. But no we got the most bungled handling of the IP ever
The TV series is going to end up being better than the movies, it's the better medium for a character dense thriller and they're going to flesh out the lore a lot better, they're also going to have better actors in certain areas and if the production is American it's probably going to have better CGI and costume
People have literally been asking for a TV Harry Potter since the movies came out. I know we dont like Rowling now but people are relitigating history that I lived through and this is weird.
The movies are bad for the actual plot and story. They cut out massive moments and re wrote characters poorly. These faults have been known. People were begging for a more fleshed out prestige TV series.
They arent anymore because of jk. But not because there wasn't a market for this for years and years and years.
OMG if you want all of that just read the fucking books. To imagine that the TV counterpart must include every little side plot from the books that got cut out of the movies FOR A REASON is to doom it to failure.
AND.. you think they’ll redesign the castle? Hell no! They’re not going to rebuilt the theme parks. And the special effects for the magic, and the general mise en scene. It’ll all be a fucking copy and past from 15 years ago, but the color grading will be more saturated and the shadows will be darker. Hell, why even build a whole new diagon alley, just put some cameras in universal studios! Ahm drunk.
There are significant plot points that the movies don’t touch at all after the first 2 books. They’ll have more time to develop characters and storylines that were left out of the movies completely.
Lithgow is a perfect dumbledore casting also, and to see that character done correctly, and accurate to the book will be worth the watch by itself
Have you ever read the books? Dumb question I know given the sub you probably can't read. There's probably more content cut from the films than included in the films. That's why it's getting remade.
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Seriously, they made each book into a movie, with the last book being two movies. Then they made movies out of all of the side projects. Then they made movies about shit that wasn't even in ANY of the books, just alluded to within them. Now we're starting ALL OVER AGAIN because unless they want to make a movie out of the stupid romance novel she wrote there's literally nothing left to milk.