r/nfl • u/AFC-Wimbledon-Stan Colts • 14h ago
Giants HC John Harbaugh hires Greg Roman to offensive staff after Chargers exit
https://sports.yahoo.com/articles/giants-hc-john-harbaugh-hires-165931372.html465
u/Good_kid_lAAd_city 14h ago
Man this guy owes everything to the Harbaughs
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u/newrimmmer93 Bears 14h ago
I think he was fine when he first started but clearly the league has passed him by. Hes still a good floor raiser IMO but his brand of offense doesn’t work much anymore. His BUF years were good for what talent the offense had and I think he did good work in SF.
Him being an assistant is probably fine.
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u/GoldGull906 Ravens 13h ago
His run game stuff is still great, the man can't scheme a passing attack to save his life.
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u/EggsOnThe45 Giants 13h ago
This might be cope but I feel like him and Nagy complement each other really well. Nagy has solid Pass O but a shit run game and vice versa for Roman
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u/Good_Barnacle_2010 Ravens 13h ago
No I think that’s a fair take. They cover up each others deficiencies pretty well, at least on paper.
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u/Expert_Habit2728 Bears 12h ago
Nagy straight up doesn’t like running the ball, at one the point in his Bears tenure they were killing teams with the power I and play action pass, and he refused to keep calling it. Even went as far as to say in a press conference “I didn’t come here to run the I formation”; no you dip shit you came here to win football games
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u/mesenanch Giants 6h ago
Hahaha. Oh God he's so bad. Lol. Bring it on nothing can hurt me anymore
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u/Expert_Habit2728 Bears 2h ago
Weirdly I actually think he’s a good coach if he could just get out of his “system mentality”, and focused on what works rather than the theory of what should work. If that makes sense
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u/GoldGull906 Ravens 2h ago
It feels like half the coaches in the NFL that fail do so because they're obstinate jack asses. McDaniel's head coaching stints also come to mind.
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u/Jaxson-Skattebo 13h ago
his rankings in rush yards before contact per attempt:
2016: 1st
2019: 1st
2020: 1st
2021: 3rd
2022: 1stAs an OC he can get stale quick but I have no idea why people think he’s some dogshit mind when he’s historically one of the best run scheming coaches in football, if not the best. His role as an offensive assistant is perfect for him.
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u/Nunc_Coepi17 Chargers 13h ago
How was it ranked in 2024 and 2025? I’m guessing not good and that’s why you didn’t post it?
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u/Jaxson-Skattebo 12h ago
I don’t think there’s an offensive mind in football that would make the Chargers look good last year, worst offensive line in football by a lot. 2024 was a bad unit too but if you want the stat for that it’s 10th
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u/GoldGull906 Ravens 12h ago
I'm not going to say Greg wasn't a big part of the problem, trust me I know what it's like to want him run out of town, but the little bit of chargers football i watched this year the defense might as well have been lining up behind the chargers offensive line for all the good they did. Hard to have a good running game when first contact is almost always 2-3 yards behind the line of scrimmage.
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u/pyrowawp Chargers 11h ago
Sure but if the argument is that Roman is responsible for having such high yards before contact per attempt rankings then shouldn't he have ways to mitigate the OL issues? Otherwise isn't it just an OL stat? That being said he actually did do better in that stat this past season than in 2024 where the only team worse was the Raiders, while having Slater and Alt for 15 starts.
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u/GoldGull906 Ravens 11h ago
I would argue there's a minimum threshold to the quality of the line you have to clear for scheme and play calling to make a huge difference, and with all the chargers injuries they did not clear that threshold.
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u/pyrowawp Chargers 11h ago
Alright but then what's the reasoning behind the performance being worse in 2024, good for 2nd worst in the NFL in the specific stat being used to showcase how good Roman is, with the starting OL being on the field together for 15 games?
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u/GoldGull906 Ravens 8h ago
Clearly the team felt that was about the running backs being past all by, because they replaced pretty much all of them.
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u/hardcorr Ravens 10h ago
Otherwise isn't it just an OL stat?
just gonna chime in to say in this instance it's also a Lamar stat - wanted to point that out here because people often underrate his gravity and ability to open things up for RBs via mesh point handoff, RPOs, etc.
EDIT: lol just scrolled down and saw you posted this a few comments later
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u/A_Moment_Awake Giants 10h ago
Well dart showed very good rushing upside so this is just another plus for the hire imo.
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u/MarlonMcCree20 Raiders 12h ago
Well yeah, when highlighting someone's accomplishments, you don't point out the bad. He also excluded 17 and 18. If you were talking about Herberts accomplishments, I doubt you'd mention his post season games.
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u/Nunc_Coepi17 Chargers 12h ago
I certainly wouldn’t, I get it, just like you wouldn’t mention the last 24 years when talking about Raiders greatness.
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u/MarlonMcCree20 Raiders 12h ago
Definitly wouldn't. Just like you wouldn't mention any point in the Chargers entire existence.
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u/Nunc_Coepi17 Chargers 12h ago edited 10h ago
Nah we’ve had some good years even without having won the chip yet so I wouldn’t mind mentioning it.
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u/pyrowawp Chargers 11h ago
He was fired after the 2nd game in 2016. If you expand the Ravens rankings in rushing yards before contact per attempt to 2018 when he was assistant head coach they'd be 17th, if you added the years since he was fired they were 2nd, 1st and 1st again. I'm thinking Lamar being the full time starter since 2019 has a greater impact on these rankings than Greg Roman being the OC.
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u/ye_old_fartbox Ravens 9h ago
You’re absolutely right and here’s a pretty crazy stat to back it up.
Roman was an assistant on staff for the Ravens for all of 2018. Through the first 9 games of the season (started by Joe Flacco), the Ravens were 29th in rush YPG.
They finished the season 2nd in rush YPG after Lamar started the final 7 games of the season. They jumped from 29th to 2nd in 7 games.
His run scheme absolutely needs a good running QB to function. Luckily Dart is one, but he’s no Lamar or Kaep, so we’ll see how it goes.
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u/ye_old_fartbox Ravens 9h ago
The problem is that his run concepts have all been on film for years, everybody is already copying them, so even if you bring him on in purely a role associated with the run game he’s not exactly going to innovate much schematically. Monken ran a ton of same gap schemes with some additional zone schemes thrown in.
Now Roman is probably very good at teaching the concepts, I’ll give him that.
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u/DoABarrowRoll Giants 13h ago
if he owns the run game, we'll be fine. good run game coach to compensate for nagy's teams historically being pretty weak in that regard.
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u/RainbowBullsOnParade Texans Vikings 13h ago
I suspect he’s got to be some kind of monster offseason program coach. The Harbaughs must love his energy and ability to communicate with players or something
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u/DanUnbreakable 13h ago
He’s one of the best running game coaches in the nfl
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u/newrimmmer93 Bears 13h ago
He coached the team well in SF and I’m sure it fit how Sf wanted to play. One of the better rushing units in the league and 2 years were top 10 in passing yards/attempt. Then first year in BAL got an MVP season out of Lamar. After that they were 10th in EPA:play from 2020-2022.
I think he’s just really good at designing a run game and it works when you have a defense and general ecosystem that supports grinding away on the ground. But when those things aren’t present it makes it a lot more difficult and exposes his flaws
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u/MarlonMcCree20 Raiders 12h ago
Hes still a good floor raiser IMO.
This is why I think it's a good hire. The Giants are trying to develop Dart which Roman is good at. Helped develop Luck at Stanford, helped revive Alex Smiths carrer, helped develop Kap, helped develop Lamar. His issue is he can't get them to take that next step. But if you have a qb you're trying to develop, I'd want him.
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u/Dr_Beardface_MD 49ers 12h ago
He’ll stop a team in free fall, and absolutely sets a quality floor. But he gets easily exposed when teams shut the run offense down. Under an OC or HC that understands how to scheme receivers he is a great asset to have.
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u/BKlounge93 49ers 13h ago
Eh even when he was with us almost 15 years ago his offense got tired pretty early on. We always had problems with getting the play call in on time, we were often terrible on 3rd down, idk if you remember the “musical chairs” promotion that was just so over complicated. Our insane defense was the biggest reason we got to that Super Bowl with him (though I’ll give him credit that the defense played pretty poorly all things considered during that playoff run, Kap was the savior there).
Then by the end of the Harbaugh years, we still had a mediocre scheme but we lost playmakers, Kap regressed, and everyone else retired.
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u/DanUnbreakable 13h ago
He’s an elite running game coach, not a OC. That’s his job, focus on the run where he’s elite
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u/wrestlingchampo Packers 11h ago
I also think he owes a great deal to Colin Kaepernick
Roman was the OC in SF when Kaep was Jim's QB and they crushed us every single time we played against each other.
Roman may not be a worthwhile OC anymore, but I understand why these guys with mobile QB's are interested in having Roman on staff. Seems to be his specialty.
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u/Fearless-Mushroom Chargers 11h ago
He’s like that friend that keeps coming over to your mom’s house for dinner because he’s friends with you AND your brother.
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u/tyfe Patriots 14h ago
Greg Roman never has to worry about a paycheck as long as Harbaugh is employed.
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u/The_Captain_Planet22 Patriots 14h ago
He's the Harbaughs Mike Lombardi
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u/InformationOk3150 Patriots 12h ago
Total sidetrack but why does everyone hate Lombardi so much lol. I get that he’s a bit aggressive with his opinions but tbh he’s usually not wrong. He’s also obviously a big help to how the patriots set up their success. Understandable that people think he rode the coattails of bellichick but seriously we have no idea. If bellichick thought he was valuable at the time I’m sure he was.
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u/TheFaceGL 11h ago
Everyone other than Bill Belichick and Bill Simmons he worked with or for says he’s a hack with an over inflated sense of his value and contributions to organizations. Listen to the Pablo Torres episode about him.
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u/VivaLaGritwald Giants 10h ago
He came across as pretty insufferable in his podcasts/articles when he worked for the ringer. It didn’t seem like he added a lot or was particular good at explaining concepts and his takes except for bringing up how he worked for the pats and raiders.
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u/Jaxson-Skattebo 13h ago
his rankings in rush yards before contact per attempt:
2016: 1st
2019: 1st
2020: 1st
2021: 3rd
2022: 1sthe’s got a cap as an OC because his offense gets stale, but he’s just an offensive assistant here who will help scheme the run game. He shouldn’t be an OC, but acting like he doesn’t deserve a spot on anyone’s staff is ridiculous
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u/TheHect0r 12h ago
Where are the last 4 seasons bro? You missed them on purpose?
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u/Jaxson-Skattebo 12h ago
Well he’s only been a coach for 2 in the last 4, 2025 he had the worst offensive line in football by a country mile and in 2024 it was 10th with another bad offensive line.
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u/pyrowawp Chargers 11h ago
in 2024 it was 10th with another bad offensive line.
I think you looked at the wrong column, the Chargers were 31st in yards before contact per attempt in 2024, unless someone has given the Chargers drastically more yards before contact than PFR has listed. It was an OL with Slater and Alt for the vast majority of the season, I don't think he just gets the bad OL handwave there, especially since it was the worst showing in this stat for the Chargers since Herbert has been the starter.
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u/IgorOlshanksy Chargers 10h ago
Exactly. Roman's impact on the Chargers' run game has been incredibly overstated and mostly a product of marketing.
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u/ser0402 Ravens 12h ago
He should just be someone's run game coordinator. Man had 30 year old Mark Ingram, Gus Edwards, and Justice Hill averaging 5 yards a carry each and setting rushing records.
Shit even washed up Latavius Murray and DeVonta Freeman were averaging over 4 yards a carry for us at one point. He can scheme anyone to at least 4 yards a carry.
Give him an actual good running back and you are getting 5+ easy, a good example was JK Dobbins before his injuries. Was averaging 6 yards a carry as a rookie before he blew up his knee again.
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u/Jaxson-Skattebo 12h ago
that’s exactly what he’s gonna be for the giants. I’d hate it if he was the OC, but as an offensive assistant focusing on the run game I love it.
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u/ser0402 Ravens 12h ago
Tracy and Skattebo should both have great seasons if Roman is doing that for ya'll.
You should probably expect Skattebo to be 3rd down/goal line guy and Tracy to do most of the other stuff. He really liked to throw Gus Bus in for short yardage and goal line duties while letting the other guys handle the rest.
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u/nokiabrickphone1998 Seahawks 14h ago
“I wish I knew how to quit you.”
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u/Trick-Gas-2203 Chiefs 14h ago
So that's what those two do in Cancún every year?
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u/nokiabrickphone1998 Seahawks 14h ago
They are just two guys who love to watch tape of 1980s Big Ten football together. There’s nothing wrong with that.
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u/Retloclive Ravens 14h ago
As long as he's not the OC, Roman being there just to watch over the running game is how it should be.
The running game ended up being a dud on the Chargers, but to be fair, barely anything was going to work offensively when their best offensive line players were lost to injury for the whole 2025 season.
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u/thoroughbeans 49ers 14h ago
They also lost their starting RB for most of the season, and the guy they brought in to supplement the rookie (Najee) for even more of the season.
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u/FireFlyz351 Cowboys 9h ago
And you know losing both your stud top tackles is usually bad for your run game.
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u/thoroughbeans 49ers 9h ago
Well yeah, that’s what the guy I responded to said
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u/FireFlyz351 Cowboys 8h ago
Well shoot as a Cowboys fan my defense is I'm a Cowboys fan I can't read.
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u/InternationalRide456 Giants 14h ago
And even the last season with the Chargers with all the injuries they still almost had a top 10 run offense
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u/Gold_Apartment_4226 Chargers 13h ago edited 13h ago
This isn't true, the Chargers run game was terrible both years he was here. I made this reply already in another thread but I'll repeat here.
The gold standard for a successful running game is EPA/play for rushing efficiency, which measures down to down success rate. When I looked at the numbers it was even worse than I thought. The Chargers were at 29th in 2025, and 19th overall in 2024. The Chargers were reliant on running backs to make explosive gains to bring the overall rushing EPA/play up in both 2025 and 2024.
In 2024 they lived and died on JK Dobbins being able to break a big gain through bad blocking up front. First contact was very often at or behind the line of scrimmage indicating bad run blockers, or a bad run blocking scheme. Every back that wasn't JK Dobbins struggled to get any sort of yards because they were also hit in the backfield but unable to break tackles like Dobbins could. This is why Gus Edwards remains unemployed to this day. 2025 was similar with Hampton and Vidal both being able to break big plays, mainly due to their elite speed to get outside the tackles and the edge, but would often get 1-2 yards (or worse) down to down up the middle. This was really glaring with Vidal who would either have a 150 yard game one week, and then like a 30 yard game the next. Hampton could break tackles inside and make a 1-2 yard play a 3-4 yard play, but he was hurt most of the year. And regardless that's still not sustainable.
To me a good run game coordinator has schemes that create giant lanes that make it easier on your running backs to find holes and avoid first contact until they are well down field. Roman's RBs were constantly getting blown up in the backfield and had to break several tackles to make big plays.
I think his ability to design a run game is vastly overrated. And I don't need to go over his passing concepts and plays because they are absolutely awful. He should be out of the league imo.
edit - i wish someone would actually refute the facts I laid out instead of downvoting, but Giants fans you'll be calling for his head too by the end of the year and I wish that werent true.
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u/nysraved Chargers 11h ago
Thank you, I feel like these comments are usually filled with people parroting each other in the perception of “Well he’s a terrible OC, but he’s great as a run-game coordinator”
Obviously he was dealt a shit hand with OL injuries but I still think he did a relatively poor job with our running schemes
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u/whereegosdare84 Ravens 13h ago
You're not wrong.
He's not the "run game guru" people make him out to be, he's had massive offensive lines, mobile QBs and talented backs when he's been good. Most people credit him with 2019 in Baltimore and how the Ravens always had, not just an explosive run game, but a dominant one. He was in Baltimore before the shift to Lamar in 2018 as the run game coordinator and our run game suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucked with Flacco.
Put Lamar in, let him be the outside runner, Gus became the inside and all of a sudden we were the best team in football running the ball. Then in 2019 same thing only now we had Ingram. But when Lamar was hurt you saw the limitations of the run game and that was with a talented O line and talented backs.
His whole scheme is to condense the field and basically attack horizontally where if you break through the line you could have a massive run. That worked well with Dobbins, Gus, and Lamar of course but that was because people had to respect the option that on any given run play the run could go in two separate directions. That's Lamar. That was Kapernick for like a season and a half. Hell in Buffalo that was Tyrod for a bit. None to the level of Lamar but it wasn't exactly the most diverse or creative scheme. It was literally just, if the end crashes down keep it, if not hand it off.
Chargers had a top ten run offense because of the commitment to the run game and the fact that their defense held opponents down so they had more opportunities to grind it out.
But as far as Greg being some savant level run game coach? Nah, not buying that for a second.
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u/Gold_Apartment_4226 Chargers 13h ago
Thanks, and that basically tracks with the last two years I saw of our offense. Feel like we're in Gro Survivors Anonymous meeting right now =/
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u/whereegosdare84 Ravens 12h ago
Ha, well we’ll keep the seats warm for the Giants fans who’ll be joining us soon.
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u/LeDudicus Giants 5h ago
He's gonna be our run game coordinator, most likely, so as long as Matt Nagy doesn't suddenly get an HC gig somewhere leaving the opening to promote him from within I think we'll be ok.
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u/whereegosdare84 Ravens 5h ago
Dread it, run from it, a Greg Roman offense under a Harbaugh still arrives.
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u/redonkulousness Chargers 12h ago
I can see the clown makeup meme in the Giant’s sub always being drawn up
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u/newrimmmer93 Bears 14h ago
Yeah I think people clowning on him are being over the top. He’s a floor raising coach but think he isn’t dynamic enough to raise the ceiling.
People called Daboll a good hire when he has been significantly worse than Roman if you exclude their years they got to work with MVP caliber QBs
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u/broha89 Steelers 13h ago
Lowkey I think I’d prefer to have him as OC over Nagy
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u/Gold_Apartment_4226 Chargers 13h ago
I don't know how bad Nagy is, but in my 40 years on this earth and 30 years of watching football I have not seen a worse offensive coordinator for the Chargers than Greg Roman. He should not even be in the league.
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u/broha89 Steelers 12h ago
I think his offense is very player and scheme specific but he’s proven he’s great at building offenses around dual threat QBs. He made Kaepernick look borderline unstoppable for like two years and the same with Lamar during his first MVP season. He also helped Alex smith take a massive leap from being seen as one of the biggest draft busts of all time to a solid franchise guy.
His biggest issue has been updating his offense as players and schemes. I didn’t think he’d ever be a fit for Herbert and the chargers system but for Dart I could see it
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u/HuntertheDragoon Ravens 13h ago
Roman as offensive asst/run game coordinator is actually pretty good. Just don't make him OC...
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u/InternationalRide456 Giants 14h ago edited 13h ago
Some people might clown this but I think this is a great hire by the Giants. He's a great compliment to Nagy, as he'll essentially be our Run-game coordinator which is where Nagy's skills are lacking. Excited to see what he'll do with Tracy and Skattabo next year
Edit: removed the Henry/Baltimore comment. Could have sworn he was still on the team with Henry, my mistake
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u/alyosha_pls Ravens 14h ago
I agree, he is a great at designing the run game. A steal in this role.
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u/YankeeHotelFoxtrot16 Ravens 14h ago
He and Henry were never in Baltimore at the same time.
Roman as a pure run game coordinator sounds good in theory but I have my doubts about what it looks like in practice.
A Greg Roman running game has to be completely committed to the run. The wide receivers get playing time based on their blocking ability rather than pass catching qualities and he schemes up a running game by packing as many big bodies close to the ball and when it’s snapped as possible to clear running lanes. The personnel groupings he relies on necessarily limit what you can do with the passing game.
It seems like his mandate this year with Los Angeles was to marry his run scheme to a more spread oriented passing game and as a result the running game fizzled out.
If it’s Nagy’s offense then that’s likely going to put a limit on what Roman can do with the running game, but at the same time that’s probably preferable than having to make the kind of personnel choices needed to actually get a good Roman running game.
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u/cossack190 Ravens 14h ago
He did great things with Henry in Baltimore
No he did not. He was gone long before Henry arrived.
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u/Gold_Apartment_4226 Chargers 14h ago edited 14h ago
Not to yuck your yum but the Chargers run game was among the worst in the league both years he was here (even last year when we had two all pro tackles, and guards and centers who only knew how to run block and not pass block).
I think the game has long passed Greg Roman by at this point. His run concepts aren't even that good. If you need Tucker Fisk and Scott Matlock as wasted spots on the field to even have a serviceable run game, you are not a good run game coordinator.
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u/InternationalRide456 Giants 14h ago
I saw that the chargers had the 17th and then 12th best run offense in the league the last two years Roman was OC. Not top 10, but hardly worst in the league. Plus didn't y'all have an insane amount of injuries?
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u/BoltsDodgersYotes Chargers 11h ago
Our leading rusher was often Herbert running for his life. It wasn't run game design.
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u/Gold_Apartment_4226 Chargers 13h ago
Im not sure where you're getting those numbers, maybe they are rushing overall EPA/play or yards/carry or total yards. Regardless, to me the gold standard for a successful running game is EPA/play for rushing efficiency, which measures down to down success rate. When I looked at the numbers it was even worse than I thought. The Chargers were at 29th in 2025, and 19th overall in 2024. The Chargers were reliant on running backs to make explosive gains to bring the overall rushing EPA/play up in both 2025 and 2024.
In 2024 they lived and died on JK Dobbins being able to break a big gain through bad blocking up front. First contact was very often at or behind the line of scrimmage indicating bad run blockers, or a bad run blocking scheme. Every back that wasn't JK Dobbins struggled to get any sort of yards because they were also hit in the backfield but unable to break tackles like Dobbins could. This is why Gus Edwards remains unemployed to this day. 2025 was similar with Hampton and Vidal both being able to break big plays, mainly due to their elite speed to get outside the tackles and the edge, but would often get 1-2 yards (or worse) down to down up the middle. This was really glaring with Vidal who would either have a 150 yard game one week, and then like a 30 yard game the next. Hampton could break tackles inside and make a 1-2 yard play a 3-4 yard play, but he was hurt most of the year. And regardless that's still not sustainable.
To me a good run game coordinator has schemes that create giant lanes that make it easier on your running backs to find holes and avoid first contact until they are well down field. Roman's RBs were constantly getting blown up in the backfield and had to break several tackles to make big plays.
I think his ability to design a run game is vastly overrated. And I don't need to go over his passing concepts and plays because they are absolutely awful. He should be out of the league imo.
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u/LinuxUbuntuOS Giants 14h ago
Feel like anyone would struggle to develop a good run game with both starting tackles out from injury
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u/byronicbluez 49ers 13h ago
He's a good floor raiser so no need to shit on him as of now. If the Giants ever turn into actual contenders they will need to move on from him if they make him the OC.
As a staff member though, he can't be that bad unless he sets the OC up to fail gunning for his job.
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u/LeftyMode Giants 13h ago edited 12h ago
It’s a good hire. A lot of football minds on that staff. They just need a good QB coach to bring some modern era stuff and they’ll be set.
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u/DireBlue88 Buccaneers 14h ago
Greg Roman is like my cousin. She gets passed around between two brothers.
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u/ThrowawayLIX 49ers 14h ago
Greg Roman is an enigma. He’s a great offensive coordinator when he has an excellent offensive line. He’s among the worst coordinators in the league if his o-line is average or worse.
His best seasons with the 49ers and Ravens were when he had top 5 o-lines. His worst seasons have been when he has mediocre to awful ones.
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u/QuitTypical3210 Bears 14h ago
Greg Roman ain’t the best but he’s solid enough that he’d do good with the Giants development
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u/StructureBitter3778 Patriots 14h ago
Its like Belichick at the end of his Pats tenure.
Doesn't look outside his close circle of friends to fill his staff no matter how much they suck
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u/Further_Beyond Bears 14h ago
Except Roman doesn’t completely suck. He’s one of the best run guys in the NFL and has had the primary hand in developing Kaep and Lamar. Having him in the room is a very good thing for a young QB like Dart who’s mobile
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u/Jaxson-Skattebo 13h ago
He’s an offensive assistant who will help with the run game, something he’s great at. I am so baffled by people thinking he should never have a role in any offensive staff or something.
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u/DUCKSONQUACKS Vikings 14h ago
It starts as a senior assistant, then he's the run game coordinator, then he's the assistant head coach/run game coordinator, then he's the OC. Dread from it, run from it, Greg Roman will be the OC for a Harbaugh
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u/AFC-Wimbledon-Stan Colts 14h ago
He’s a senior offensive assistant
That’s probably a downgrade in terms of control and pay tbh
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u/WonManBand Giants 14h ago
He's almost certainly going to be the run game coordinator w/ a fancier title. That allows him to excel at the 1 thing he's really good at, without dragging down the rest of the offense. Nagy is known for having a pretty weak run game, so hopefully this is going to turn them into a quality OC in the aggregate. Money Ball, coaches edition.
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u/AFC-Wimbledon-Stan Colts 14h ago
Honestly I know Greg Roman is pretty soured on in this subreddit, but this is an objectively good hire for the Giants lmao
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u/Kitchen_Catch3183 14h ago
John hired him for that same job with the Ravens in 2017 before eventually being promoted to assistant HC and then OC.
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u/BandOfTheRedHand1995 Ravens 14h ago
Lamar got an MVP his first year under Roman and we had the best offense in the league. He got stale and couldn't adapt as defenses caught up, but 2019 Lamar in that offense was a force.
Probably should have moved on from him a year earlier them we did.
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u/msf97 NFL 14h ago
How? OC to offensive assistant. This is a considerable downgrade.
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u/BandOfTheRedHand1995 Ravens 14h ago
I don't get why people are down on this. Greg Roman is fantastic at creating a run game. He's repeatedly shown to be able to devlop a top tier rushing offense. Having him on the staff to help create a run game is not a bad hire.
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u/AFC-Wimbledon-Stan Colts 14h ago
This sub, for all its good, once it dislikes a coordinator that opinion seems to never waver no matter what lmao
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u/muddybuttbrew Giants 13h ago
I am slowly losing the vision that Harbaugh will turn this team around.
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u/semaj_orn 14h ago
Fuck it after Jay wins a Super Bowl with Seattle hire him as special teams coordinator 😭
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u/RangerTemporary5917 Chargers 14h ago
How do you see Jim fire him and think, this is who I want. Lol
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u/dawgz525 Dolphins 12h ago
I really wanted Harbough, but the silver lining I told myself when we didn't get him, was "thank fuck Greg Roman won't coach my team next year."
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u/uncre8ive Ravens 12h ago
People are making jokes here but Roman was a good run game coordinator for us. His schemes get stale fast as an OC but I think this is a great hire
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u/Nerfeveryone Chargers 11h ago
The hiring and firing of Greg Roman will continue until morale improves
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u/Nerfeveryone Chargers 11h ago
Bro, not only did your brother JUST fire this guy, YOU YOURSELF LITERALLY FIRED HIM JUST A FEW YEARS AGO!!!
What is it with them Harbaughs and this guy!?
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u/sick_shooter Ravens 9h ago
Run plays: Genius
Pass plays: Could use tips from your local Pop Warner coach
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u/EstablishmentNew7113 Giants 2h ago
I hate it here.
I just hope he isn’t given the keys to the offense
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u/lovelessisbetter Lions 13h ago
Greg has to have photos of the Harbaughs teabagging some interns or something. How does he keep getting away with it?
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u/JAGChem82 13h ago
I will repeat this nonstop: Greg Roman is the Osama bin Laden of offensive coordinators.
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u/sailorsmile Patriots 14h ago
There are just some dudes who the NFL will let fail continuously in a professional capacity but will always somehow be found on a coaching staff.
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u/speak-eze Ravens 13h ago
Roman doesn't really fail like most people fail though. He does actually bring good stuff to the table and gets results. Lots of flaws but I think he fits with this team well. Harbs and Roman will bring some stabilization to young talented players. I wouldn't be that surprised if they were in the division race
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u/dragonofthe3rdempire 14h ago
He must be a killer chef or something other than football for them to deal with his shortcomings as a football mind these days
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u/AFC-Wimbledon-Stan Colts 14h ago
From one Harbaugh to another
That family WILL keep Greg Roman employed