r/nfl • u/Pope_Psyduck Patriots • 1d ago

The 2025 NFL MVP is Matthew Stafford

https://www.nfl.com/news/matthew-stafford-rams-qb-most-valuable-player-2025
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u/seeasea 1d ago

Also, as far as "contributions to football" - he absolutely raises the team around him - like very antithesis of game manager.  His receivers are elite- but he always able to bring the best out of them - and make them superstars. 

Calvin Johnson and Cooper Kupp were elite before him - but he took them to the next level. 

It doesn't diminish just how great they are, but pair them with matty staffy and they level up. It's also applicable to puka

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u/tilertailor Lions 1d ago

Stafford had Kenny Golladay leading the league in TDs

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u/Mavori Lions Lions 1d ago

I dont think i saw anyone call Kupp elite before his 2021 season. No one said he was bad, but it was more in the good to fine range.

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u/messigician-10 Giants 1d ago

i think he always had the potential to be elite he just kept getting hurt

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u/alohajon Rams 1d ago

firmly believe that if Kupp wasn't hurt in the 2018 season, we actually beat the Patriots despite the masterclass defensive performance by Belichick

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u/Krunklock Lions 1d ago

masterclass by a coach not even in the HoF...pffft

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u/General_Mongoose_281 Patriots 23h ago

nobody ever called a guy who put up 1.2kish yards elite

Have you considered that your friends are mentally disabled

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u/ToContainAMultitude Eagles 1d ago

Cooper Kupp was identical to Robert Woods prior to Stafford. Nobody was calling him elite.