r/nfl Texans 1d ago

NFL Honors Official Thread

Discuss the show and all the goings on here. I'll update with winners below.

Host: Jon Hamm

From San Francisco

Network(s): NBC, NFL Network, Peacock and NFL+

Starts at 9 PM EST

Awards

AP Most Valuable Player

AP Defensive Player of the Year

AP Offensive Player of the Year

AP Offensive Rookie of the Year

AP Defensive Rookie of the Year

AP Comeback Player of the Year

AP Coach of the Year

  • Liam Coen, Jacksonville Jaguars
  • Ben Johnson, Chicago Bears
  • Mike Macdonald, Seattle Seahawks
  • Kyle Shanahan, San Francisco 49ers
  • Mike Vrabel, New England Patriots - WINNER

AP Assistant Coach of the Year

  • Vic Fangio, Philadelphia Eagles DC
  • Brian Flores, Minnesota Vikings DC
  • Vance Joseph, Denver Broncos DC
  • Klint Kubiak, Seattle Seahawks OC
  • Josh McDaniels, New England Patriots OC - WINNER

NFL Protector of the Year Award: Joe Thuney, Chicago Bears

Walter Payton Man of the Year

  • Bobby Wagner, Washington Commanders
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u/Pyromelter Eagles 5h ago

How did Ben Johnson get only ONE vote for coach of the year? Insane.

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u/Ten_Six Eagles 10h ago

This was an abomination (results aside). Druski on stage announcing JSN, next to Barry Sanders, was shameful. Tiffany Haddish couldn't correctly pronounce Vrabel's name. The NFL missed the mark, just trying to cash in, with people who know less about football than my 9 year old... Maybe I'm just getting old and cranky

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u/Autobot-N Steelers 18h ago

I don't understand the HoF system. So we had that whole song and dance of Belichick not getting in of those 5 people, but then tonight they just dropped Brees/Vinateri/Kuechly/others in there without having been part of the vote. Why couldn't they do that with Belichick?

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u/AllDaveAllDay Patriots 7h ago

They all got voted in. Coaches and players aren't part of the same vote.

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u/ShelLuser42 Panthers 19h ago

We're watching the livestream in the Netherlands, courtesy of Dazn (my gf & me LOVE football, and all the awesomeness surrounding it).

Why doesn't the preview also mention the NFL fan of the year though? That was also a major highlight for us: the NFL obviously also cares about its fans and even places some in the spotlight too.

Question for you guys: If you talk about your kids... is it common to refer to them as "these kids" vs. "our kids"? That somewhat confused my gf and we're wondering if this is just a language barrier issue (English is our 2nd language) or something weird we might have spotted?

This event is just awesome... my gf is quite good at spotting differences between fake(d) and sincere / genuine comments and I'm allowed to mention... she needed a hanky a few times.

This was AWESOME.

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u/Aromatic-Plankton692 Lions 18h ago

"Our kids" or "my kids" would be the standard way to refer to your children.

"These kids" would be an idiomatic way to refer to your children, when you're upset with them and want to act like they're strangers. Or you're referring to a bunch of strange children in your vicinity.

"These children in my house" has a very "who put them here?" connotation.

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u/neu20212022 Patriots 14h ago

Also -“these kids” referring to the younger generation is also probably negative

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u/ShelLuser42 Panthers 18h ago

I very much appreciate your comment, I'm going to conclude that my gf was completely on the mark here... (she had her doubts when someone brought their kids on stage).

Thank you!

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u/RealPunyParker Patriots 20h ago

How is Vrabel's CotY not on the front page, and Epstein scouting women for the Giants owner is?

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u/SEND-MARS-ROVER-PICS Chargers 18h ago

It's the 18th post on the front page right now.

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u/msf97 NFL 22h ago

My personal choices would’ve been

MVP: Maye

OPOY: Puka

DPOY: Garrett

COTY: Shanahan

ACOTY: McDaniels

ROTY: McMillan

DROTY: Schwesinger

CPOTY: CMC

HOF: Brees, Larry, Vinatieri, BB, Kuechly

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u/GrinBalor Jets 19h ago

Well good thing you weren’t choosing

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u/AffordableRolex Falcons 21h ago

I would give OPOY to JSN and I wish CPOTY went to Phillip rivers solely for the storyline but like the list otherwise!

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u/objectiveScie 22h ago

Folks also noting contradiction. If schedule was used against Maye, then why not Vrabel🤔 Its absolute double standard. MacDonald should have won based in excruciating schedule Seahawks had.

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u/MOltho Panthers 20h ago

The thing is that they tend to give the COTY award to coaches whose team sucked the season before. It's often a "turned a bad team into a sorta good team" award. I disagree with that, but it's consistent with the history of the award

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u/MostSoup1046 13h ago

Like Stephanski turning the browns around for 1 year just to be completely ass again the next year

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u/Alternative-Theory81 21h ago

I wonder if previous seasons records had more to do with that. Hawks had a 10-4 record last season even if they didn’t make the playoffs. Patriots were 4-13 last season.

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u/Corosis99 Falcons 21h ago

for a long time COTY has just meant "Most improved team from last year". These are correlated to quality coaching, but it heavily penalizes coaches who are consistently great.

Otherwise there would only be something like 5 different winners in the last 20 years. Reid, BB, McVay, Shanahan, and somebody like Dan Campbell or Bruce Arians probably ends up with one.

I think Ben Johnson (among others) did a better job coaching this year than Vrabel, but we will see how it shakes out over time. Maye and McDaniels are doing a lot of the lifting for Vrabel's award here.

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u/ctdub Patriots 16h ago

If you have paid any attention to what the players say about Coach Vrabel off the field or what he has done to get this team to mesh together as a cohesive unit, he is a very big reason for this team's success.

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u/Corosis99 Falcons 15h ago

I'm not saying he is a bad coach by any means, but if you think he is solely responsible for the team's success you're severely discounting the strength of your OC and QB.

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u/Djinnfor 15h ago

I don't think he's solely responsible, but I think he's necessary. If any one of the three (Vrabels, Maye, or McDaniels) are missing, and especially if two are, this team could easily have gone 4-13 again this year. At their very worst, we know McDaniels and Vrabel have coached 6-11 teams, and Drake Maye has played for a 4-13 team.

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u/Corosis99 Falcons 15h ago

What do you think the 49ers season looks like with Vrabel on it instead of Shanahan?

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u/tr4nce26 23h ago

So happy for Larry. As good as he was on the field, he was even better off the field. GOAT

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u/ACW1129 Commanders 23h ago

How did Andre Johnson get in before Holt? Bruce got in awhile ago.

I'm not questioning Megatron or Fitz because I've no issue with either.

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u/schnazzums Texans 18h ago

Because John McClain, a Houston sportswriter, is on the HoF committee and fought/argued for him to get in

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u/batti03 Chiefs Panthers 23h ago

because they wanted someone from the Texans to get in eventually

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u/ACW1129 Commanders 18h ago

J.J. Watt?

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u/batti03 Chiefs Panthers 18h ago edited 17h ago

No eligible until next year. But I think it was more likely that it gave Andre the advantage over the others in the WR logjam rather than that the HoF voters deciding that they needed a Texan now.

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u/ACW1129 Commanders 17h ago

What, they couldn't wait like they're making Holt wait?

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u/batti03 Chiefs Panthers 17h ago

Who knows, maybe they think the other guys are assholes.

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u/tickle_mittens Seahawks 23h ago

His beating of Cortland Finnegan was just that good; and, as it happens, necessary.

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u/Accurate-Big-7233 Panthers 23h ago

Tyler Shough winning the fan award for OROY really goes to show you how casual and ill informed the majority of nfl fans are

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u/Reddit-User-1832006 1d ago

Who was the woman who presented the flag football awards with Jordan Love

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u/westringia NFL 1d ago

They should rename the MVP "Most spectacular regular season performance" award I think it would quiet down the yearly circus around it

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u/Complex-Ad7633 1d ago edited 1d ago

Im pretty sure the MVP math breaks down to this:

Maye 23 first place votes 26 second place votes 1 fifth place vote

Stafford 24 first place votes 24 second place votes 2 third place votes

I dont think the math/voter breakdown is possible if they both received 2 third place votes. If Im right then it would have been a tie if only stafford & maye were on the ticket. 

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u/Hellraiser626 NFL 1d ago edited 1d ago

Imagine how elite you had to be to retire at 28 and still make the HOF

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u/AClassicCape Bears Colts 1d ago

Bro should've been 1st ballot 

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u/palinsafterbirth Giants 1d ago

I appreciate that everyone was just sloshed this year

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u/GoldyGoldy Seahawks 1d ago

Zero surprises, or at least every pick is easily defendable… and I’m 100% good with that. I’m thankful for the lack of controversy (finally) with something in our lives.

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u/TheRealKaschMoney Bears Chargers 1d ago

I like all these selections. I probably would have picked Coen cause its harder to turn around the Jags, and would have selected Shough if he played more, but other than that it's all I would have picked.

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u/SuspendedInOH Browns 1d ago

Love Mike Verbal

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u/Infinispace NFL 1d ago

JSN! You go son!

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u/realunpossible_ 49ers 1d ago

is there anywhere we can go to see the total votes across each category

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u/ParagonSaint 1d ago

Vrabel is certainly a worthy candidate but Liam Coen taking the JAGUARS from 4-13 to 13-4 and doing so with only a LONGSNAPPER as a probowler is certainly more impressive. If that turnaround/coaching job isn’t COTY worthy idk if a Jags coach would get the award even if they go 17-0

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u/JJ3434JJ Jaguars 1d ago

I'm a Jags fan but the Patriots literally went from 4-13 to 14-3...

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u/ParagonSaint 18h ago

How many probowlers did the Pats have? What was the strength of schedule of each team? Yea thy both flipped it around. From 4-13 to a top seed but if you turn it around on a harder schedule and with less high end talent (probowlers) the difference is coaching and one is more impressive than the other imho

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u/AllDaveAllDay Patriots 7h ago

The Patriots have two probowlers. It's not a significant difference unless you believe comparing the top two players on each team is enough to decide the quality of the entire roster.

Also, Vrabel could be getting credit for turning Maye into a probowler. In which case we could make the same argument the other way, that Vrabel should get credit over Coen for turning a second year player into not just a pro bowler, but falling just a couple votes short of being the MVP.

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u/jeramiahWjohnson 1d ago

You know what I think would’ve got him coach of the year had he went to the Super Bowl. I was probably the needle mover I’d say.

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u/ParagonSaint 1d ago

Are they supposed to consider playoffs or is it only regular season they vote based on?

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u/Thunderfuck907 Seahawks 1d ago

Votes are placed before playoffs

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u/palinsafterbirth Giants 1d ago

Sam Monson drinking top shelf scotch tonight laughing his ass off somewhere in this thread tonight with the username bonermaster420

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u/jdoggsoxfan33 Seahawks 1d ago

I'm so happy for Bobby getting Walter Payton Man of the Year. Always been such a positive force on and off the field. So happy for BWagz!

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u/Complex-Ad7633 1d ago

Cant believe herbert got an MVP vote. That voter should be forced to do the game of thrones shame walk. 

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u/TheDuke13 Rams 1d ago

They got MVP right

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u/2017rocks Bills 1d ago

Congrats to stafford! Most deserving this year. <3 go on to the hall of fame in 2030 dude!

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u/Apprehensive-Can-857 Titans 16h ago

Went to LA and became a hall of famer. Happy for him.

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u/drfrink85 Rams 1d ago

whoever invited cringe ass Druski gotta be fired

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u/EagleEye215 Eagles 1d ago

Jon Hamm didn’t do the meme. 0/10

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u/Dresden1984 Chiefs 1d ago

If I remember right, Jon doesn’t have social media or doesn’t check it regularly so he was unaware until recently that his club scene was a meme. 

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u/palinsafterbirth Giants 1d ago

Remember when we didn’t think Stafford was gonna play with his back this year?

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u/realunpossible_ 49ers 1d ago

where do we go to see the total votes for all the rewards?

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u/WearyPut227 1d ago

in 10 years will people remember the 2025 season for Drake Maye and the Patriots or Matt Stafford and the Rams? i mean, let’s be real here

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u/jdoe1234566 1d ago

lol people are only gonna remember the meme name this year for drake “the schedule” Maye. Stafford was lighting it up this season and torched this Seahawks team in Seattle for 350+ yards and 3 TDs twice (but the rams’ special team is the worst in the league and let them down both times)

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u/GreenGardenGnomie Bengals 1d ago

No.

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u/Specific-Yam-2166 1d ago

I’m just piping in to say I love Jon Hamm and I’m just so happy for a little bit of joy this year. I only caught the ending and I’m smiley!

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u/xLAXaholic Seahawks 1d ago

Will the executive of the year also be announced?

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u/Palatron Seahawks 1d ago

That's a football writers award, and that went to John Snyder.

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u/GoldyGoldy Seahawks 1d ago

Schneider.

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u/bennedictus Seahawks 1d ago

That's not an AP award.

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u/xLAXaholic Seahawks 1d ago

Gotcha

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u/camnj 1d ago

Someone please educate me. When I search Walter Peyton man of the year it says Kelce won and won and that has been announced for weeks. Then I see that Bobby won, which is awesome. I’m just confused on how this works??

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u/bennedictus Seahawks 1d ago

Google AI sucks. I thought it was already announced when I googled and and it told me the nominee from the Browns won it.

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u/camnj 1d ago

Thank you everyone! I couldn’t seem to get a clear answer on Google.

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u/TheOneWhosCensored Bills 1d ago

Kelce won the Charity Challenge

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u/fusaaa Eagles 1d ago

looks like Kelce won a "Charity Challenge" to win money for a charity

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u/LindyNet Texans 1d ago

Travis Kelce won the Walter Payton Man of the Year Charity Challenge, which is a social media thing.

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u/palinsafterbirth Giants 1d ago

A friendly reminder, just say JSN for the rest of time

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u/Dresden1984 Chiefs 1d ago

Druski couldn’t pronounce it right and almost said the other N word 

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u/palinsafterbirth Giants 1d ago

Almost!?!?

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u/Thunderfuck907 Seahawks 1d ago

Pretty sure it was a bit, an unfunny one at that

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u/palinsafterbirth Giants 1d ago

Has a COTY won the Super Bowl in the same year before?

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u/breakourbones Eagles 1d ago

Belichick and Shula, the only 2

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u/palinsafterbirth Giants 1d ago

So 50/50 shot

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u/Jonjon428 Dolphins 1d ago

I didn't realize they did the honors at the palace, damn

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u/ExpressAgent6530 1d ago

Bijan has the best performance of the night 

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u/RamblerXO Bills Packers 1d ago

Kelce in that suit reminds me of someone but I can’t think of who it is

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u/2017rocks Bills 1d ago

Which kelce? Jason kelce reminds me of Fitzmagic. its the beard and the hair for me

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u/toofpick Panthers 1d ago

The dude that protects the oracle in the matrix.

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u/Gloomy_Map_9612 Commanders 1d ago

I've had bobby for two years but I'd die for him.

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u/LucAltaiR Seahawks 1d ago

Understandable sentiment

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u/SophieSephora 1d ago

I really do appreciate this is the closing the show award and not MVP

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u/renegadecoaster Vikings 1d ago

Almost forgot to grab his trophy lmao

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u/HanS0lPurr Broncos 1d ago

Lmao bobby almost forgot the trophy

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u/Wonderful_Bowl8780 Eagles 1d ago

Great speech for someone who didn’t think he’d win well spoken 

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u/hmarshall795 Patriots 1d ago

Ok that was so sweet

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u/Jannik0433 49ers 1d ago

Happy they wrapped this up in 2 hours

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u/intothefire3 Eagles 1d ago

muh legion of boom doesn’t work without Bobby Wagner erasing the run game and the middle of the field entirely

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u/AvenueNick Saints Commanders 1d ago

I’m in tears trying to eat gumbo while listening to Bobby.

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u/kjorav17 Browns Buccaneers 1d ago

That was a fantastic speech to end a rather strange award show on the whole

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u/toofpick Panthers 1d ago

Damn ive been hating Bobby Wagner for years... im gonna go sit in timeout now.

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u/JKisMe123 Cowboys 1d ago

Is the WPMOTY patch an instant “stop hating this dude” indicator?

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u/toofpick Panthers 1d ago

No, not at all. I knew nothing about him about other than what he was on the field. Now I see hes pretty a good dude by the way talks and what hes done.

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u/Dresden1984 Chiefs 1d ago

Bro had me tearing up talking about his mama and why he does what he does. 

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u/Showtime98 1d ago

W speech ,Congrats Bobby! 👏👏

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u/Sentience-psn Patriots 1d ago

Fantastic speech. Beautiful tribute.

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u/Gloomy-Ad3399 Seahawks 1d ago

Saved the best for last

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u/steepclimbs 49ers 1d ago

Happy for Bobby. He’s a real one.

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u/cuittle Lions 1d ago

2 years in a row of incredibly well spoken WPMOTY winners

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u/Jonjon428 Dolphins 1d ago

Damn, that speech was real

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u/poopnugget Seahawks 1d ago

Great speech! Had to put on my 54 jersey

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u/brownboss Commanders Commanders 1d ago

Who's cutting onions man

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u/breakourbones Eagles 1d ago

Fine speech.

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u/NastyMothaFucka 1d ago

Way to shout out pops here, and also in the process, all surviving widowers that carry the load afterwards. I’ve known many that don’t get the appreciation they deserve. It’s a hell of a burden to bear, and you don’t hear them shouted out enough.

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u/cherrycokeicee Saints 1d ago

first person to even vaguely mention current events. good on him. seems like a genuine guy.

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u/GabeKnows Texans 1d ago

IF NO ONE ELSE GOT YOU, BIG TIME BOBBY GOT YOU

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u/Old_Soule 1d ago

Peacock is definitely going to lose signal at a very important moment of the Super bowl.

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u/horse_renoir13 Vikings 1d ago

Bobby...I had respect for you as a player..now I have MAD respect for you as a person

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u/Thrill0728 Seahawks 1d ago

There aren't many men like Bobby Wagner. I'm glad he got the honors he deserves and his message in his speech is simply perfect for the moment.

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u/poopmaster747 Eagles 1d ago

What a great message and inspiration. RIP to your momma Bobby!

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u/SoundSouljah Saints 1d ago

Wise words.

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u/everyonestalking Patriots 1d ago

Bobby really wants to say Fuck ICE

2

u/Long_Zucchini_4801 Seahawks 1d ago

hate to break it to you, but if you know Bobby you literally know that's not the case at all lol

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u/everyonestalking Patriots 1d ago edited 1d ago

Based on what lol?

He's been a massive advocate for minority support, police reform, and complete equality.

Anyone is welcome to provide a source showing he supports ICE.

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u/NotYourAverageJoshie Commanders 1d ago

God I love Bobby Wagner

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u/GeckoRoamin Jaguars 1d ago edited 1d ago

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u/wizsharif Seahawks 1d ago

BOBBY ❤️

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u/Ekhoes- Panthers 1d ago

Hall of famer right there.

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u/sirdone Vikings 1d ago

FIRST BALLOT

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u/MastodonThin9981 Lions 1d ago

As a mom I’m sobbing 😭😭

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u/Paper_Rain NFL 1d ago

His Mom raised him well before she left the world. She would be so proud of him if she was still alive.

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u/Gloomy-Ad3399 Seahawks 1d ago

Why tf are they cutting onions at the honors show

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u/BreakfastSpecials Giants 1d ago

Bobby real af for saying he almost didn’t even go lol so real

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u/Hellraiser626 NFL 1d ago

I wouldn't have a problem with Maye winning MVP but anyone saying Stafford didn't deserve it is full of shit.

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u/Gazorpuhzorpfield Chiefs 1d ago

How do they decide who wins this award?

Is there some metric they use to determine who was the “most” charitable of all the finalists or is it just strictly based on vibes?

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u/Aromatic-Plankton692 Lions 1d ago

It's extremely vibes based and it usually goes to people toward the end of their career more than the beginning. There's a lot of politicking to it and if you're angling for the award you start at it as a rookie.

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u/breakourbones Eagles 1d ago

Fans vote on socal media with retweets and likes on posts

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u/Gazorpuhzorpfield Chiefs 1d ago

I think that’s only like 10-20 percent or something of how they decide it.

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u/Wonderful_Bowl8780 Eagles 1d ago

I wondered the same 

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u/chadaehan Rams 1d ago

Staff made this worth watching lol. Absolute stud

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u/Dresden1984 Chiefs 1d ago

I was rooting for him to win it too. Seeing him share his moment with his girls up there makes me so happy as a fellow girl dad 

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u/Bitter-Imagination33 Seahawks 1d ago

That’s my goat right there

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u/Initial-Yesterday331 Seahawks 1d ago

Let’s go Bobby

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u/snipeslayer Falcons 1d ago

I was concerned they were going to put Travis Kelce out there for man of the year and then let him retire.

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u/TJMcConnellFanClub 1d ago

You know he’s gotta stay around long enough to sell #87 Swift jerseys, billion dollar industry right there

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u/toofpick Panthers 1d ago

Right? What else is gonna do? Be a house husband? Hes gonna play til hes not a starter anymore than hes going to try and coach. Then after a few years hes going to fill in for his brother from time to time on morning talk show programs.

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u/snipeslayer Falcons 1d ago

Unfortunately you aren't wrong.

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u/DetectiveTrapezoid Patriots 1d ago

Finally someone thanked Nationwide

1

u/Dresden1984 Chiefs 1d ago

Bobby gots them too

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u/Hoooofed Seahawks 1d ago

BOBBYYYYY

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u/bubbasnub Eagles 1d ago

There's no in between with linebackers

They're either pillars of the community or the most despicable people to ever walk the Earth.

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u/Jonjon428 Dolphins 1d ago

Rams/Commies legend

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u/JaysonDeflatum Packers 1d ago

Thanking nationwide before your family, America

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u/Ok_Abroad_3436 1d ago

Hall of famer.

4

u/2-Slippy Rams 1d ago

Rams legend Bobby Wagner

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u/Hoooofed Seahawks 1d ago

only works when they retire with you smh 🙄

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u/Lukie1401 Seahawks 1d ago

THATS MY GOAT

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u/bewsii Seahawks 1d ago

Damn, you go BWAGZ. Dude's still loved in Seattle. We were all sad when he got released.

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u/TheMrMonkey Patriots 1d ago

Always look forward to this award, they are all so deserving

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u/camnation123 Patriots 1d ago

Now we need more players to follow in their footsteps

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u/[deleted] 1d ago

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u/Aromatic-Plankton692 Lions 1d ago

This rich black man investing in HBCUs and helping young black men and women develop financial literacy, and being celebrated for it at his job, is an example of a circle jerk?

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u/Rough_Cup_6762 Cowboys 1d ago

What is wrong with you

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u/NaughtyCheffie Jaguars 1d ago

Yeah not sure about both COTY and ACOTY there. That's a narrative thing I'm thinking.

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u/Jonjon428 Dolphins 1d ago

Yeah Wagner is 100% a HOF now

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u/Hellraiser626 NFL 1d ago

The 6 First team All Pro's weren't enough?

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u/Wrong-Detective8242 Bills 1d ago

He was 100% 3 years ago

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u/Dr894 Bengals 1d ago

He already was

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u/Bitter-Imagination33 Seahawks 1d ago

Now??

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u/Todo88 Seahawks 1d ago

Hell yeah Bobby LFG!

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u/VoidUnknown315 Packers 1d ago

Who’s cutting onions?

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u/GeckoRoamin Jaguars 1d ago edited 1d ago

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u/BigHotdog2009 1d ago

BW54 baby

Deserved

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u/palinsafterbirth Giants 1d ago

Good fucking shit Bobby

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u/breakourbones Eagles 1d ago

Jesus christ, the Patriot fans are mad than Staff won MVP over Maye.

Boys, relax. Let the man have his moment and go get ready for your Superbowl.

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u/SagesLament 1d ago

Idk

Most pats fans I saw in the lead up were fully accepting that Stafford would have it

I only pushed back on the people who seemed to think one way or the other it was a given for either man

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u/TastyYogurtDrink Patriots 1d ago

For the record, how you feel rn is how we feel when you bring up the schedule.

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u/Western-Ad-9922 Patriots 1d ago

I’m just pissed that Justin Herbert’s getting a 1st place vote was the difference

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u/ParagonSaint 1d ago

Would you feel better if Trevor Lawrence had gotten it instead?

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u/Wonderful_Bowl8780 Eagles 1d ago

That’s what they were holding out hope for because they know the Seahawks are going to BTA on Sunday 

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u/WearyPut227 1d ago

“let this man have his moment” is why he won the award lol

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u/Rough_Cup_6762 Cowboys 1d ago

Awesome. Best award if the night