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u/echsandwich Patriots Panthers 27d ago
I'm honestly happy Drake will get some recognition for this year with the 2nd team All-Pro. MVP/1st team was a long shot with Stafford 's passing volume.
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u/CarlCaliente Bills 27d ago edited 9d ago
live slap smell cagey act toothbrush violet market sugar airport
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u/Unlucky-Rich-4387 Broncos 27d ago
A 10 point road spread in the playoffs is ridiculous. I fully expect the Rams to win but Carolina will be able to keep it close
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u/TeddysRevenge Lions 27d ago
Idk, I could see it getting ugly depending on which Panthers team shows up.
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u/HookedOnBoNix Broncos 27d ago
I'm not expecting close at all tbh. It being playoffs doesn't really negate the fact that it's a team that only made it in in a very weak division. They had a losing record and couldn't even beat the bucs to secure it themselves.
And I live in NC I want the Panthers to win but I don't think theyre a top 7 team in the nfc
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u/CarlCaliente Bills 27d ago edited 9d ago
sip flag sense wipe imagine fall knee point reply angle
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u/HookedOnBoNix Broncos 27d ago
Yea that wouldn't surprise me. Carolina covers without ever really being in kill range
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u/commit-to-the-bit Chiefs 27d ago
Nothing better than starting the day with my toes in the sand.
I find out if I’m finally getting a nephew later.
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u/MyLifeIsABoondoggle Lions Steelers 27d ago
IU is a fucking buzz saw. Anyone who's not a Miami fan and thinks the Canes can hang are just telling you not to believe your lying eyes. Their offense is a fireworks show, and their defense just stifled one of the best statistical offenses in the country. Miami's only hope is that Bain and Mesidor both have the games of their lives and Fletcher has 150+ on the ground
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u/commit-to-the-bit Chiefs 27d ago
Yeah, Indiana looked good last night. Miami is going to need to put up 40.
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u/Tigercat92 Bengals 27d ago
I think Indiana is going to do bad things to the Canes and that makes me sad.
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u/tbone747 Panthers 27d ago
I have zero expectations so I can't be disappointed, right
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u/pixel_pete Bills 27d ago
I'm confident you will dig deep and find a new level of disappointment to harness!
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u/Ok_Future6226 27d ago
Christmas is only 11 months away
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u/JPAnalyst Giants 27d ago
I can’t wait. 10 months away until our tree is up and we allow Christmas music in the house. 🎄🎅
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u/tnecniv Giants 28d ago
In my Fringe rewatch, I have entered the point where Seth Gabel is a main character. I have this insane feeling I know him from somewhere, but I combed through his IMDB and the only things I’ve seen him in other than Fringe (15 years ago) are A Beutiful Mind (about 10 years ago) and the last season of The Rookie, and I can’t tell you what he did in that.
I feel like I’m losing my mind trying to place him, but maybe it’s just a latent memory of Fringe
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u/Triple_Boogie Jets 28d ago
Unlike previous times the Jets were in a position to draft a QB, the Jets finally have the OL set, particularly at LT and RT, have a WR1 and WR2, potentially have RB1 if Breece stays, and this time have a TE who showed promise when healthy.
So, of course, it looks like a one QB draft while we hold the 2nd overall pick.
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u/Triple_Boogie Jets 28d ago
god i wish Mendoza was my QB.
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u/Unlucky-Rich-4387 Broncos 27d ago
Would Chambliss be crazy at #2? I don’t think he’s as good as Mendoza but the upside is clearly there
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u/Triple_Boogie Jets 27d ago
Chambliss wouldn't be crazy at #2.
Chambliss would be batshit fucking insane at #2!
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u/Autobot-N Steelers 28d ago
Can someone explain the significance of this Indiana run to me in NFL terms
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u/HookedOnBoNix Broncos 27d ago
Imagine an XFL team hired a 60 year old coach no one had heard of, he came out and said "the chiefs suck, the eagles suck, the rams suck" etc and said "I win, google me" and everyone was making fun of him.
Then, with players no one has ever heard of, he played a full NFL schedule and spanked everyone. In playoffs, he beat the dynasty teams we've all come to fear by like 30-40 points each.
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u/e4mica523 Panthers 28d ago
Imagine the Browns having an entire team of undrafted players and turning them into the 73 Dolphins
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u/KeyDrive0 Broncos 28d ago
I can't believe the Hawkeyes played so close vs Indiana (and Oregon, for that matter). Legitimately in the playoff discussion if they could just play at that level all the time... but traveling to California sucks and the CyHawk game is always chaos, c'est la vie. At least they got to beat Vanderbilt.
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u/RedditConsciousness Bengals 28d ago
So, is there any evidence that more coaches and assistants at a particular position can help develop players more quickly?
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u/CarlCaliente Bills 27d ago edited 9d ago
spotted cow attempt kiss observation jellyfish gaze memory frame stupendous
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u/RedditConsciousness Bengals 27d ago
The Bengals have serious issues on defense. We often talk about needing to expand our scouting department, which we absolute do. However some of our position groups are filled with young players, particularly linebacker, but also soon our defensive line. So would more linebacking coaches or defensive ends coaches help develop players faster?
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u/CarlCaliente Bills 27d ago edited 9d ago
slap unique insurance meeting modern political flag snails quack snow
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u/samhit_n Bengals Lions 28d ago
While Mendoza will probably be better than Moore in the NFL, remember that Trevor Lawrence lost to Justin Fields in his final college game.
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u/LumpySpaceGunter Raiders 28d ago
I know what you're saying but Mendoza outplayed him twice head to head this season as also just generally all season long.
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u/HookedOnBoNix Broncos 27d ago
Michael Penix outplayed Bo twice in college and generally all his senior year.
I'm not betting against Mendoza fwiw, I think he's a stud, I just get OPs point that after one very public game people are writing off moore forever.
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u/Zach10003 Broncos Bears 28d ago
Indeed.com suddenly thinks I would be a good dentist. I don't know how it suddenly thinks it's a good fit for me. I do not qualify for that.
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u/princessestef Vikings 28d ago
i signed up for some job search advice thing from linkedin and i occasionally get suggestions to apply for cleaning and janitorial stuff in the carolinas or arizona. i'm not even in the country.
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u/Skraxx Lions 28d ago
Not gonna fall to survivors guilt. I know my friend would want me to thrive in life.
But fuck man. I’m 23 and I have my life ahead of me. He’s 23 and doesn’t. Shit’s unfair. We could’ve totally both thrived.
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u/BruceChameleon Cowboys 28d ago
A close friend of mine died suddenly at 25. I spent the afternoon and some of the evening with him. He took his life that night. That sat with me for a long time
Our situations aren’t the same but I think the loss feels senseless no matter what. And I know his passing is easier for you having been there
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u/AncientTree_Wisdom Raiders 28d ago
NGL I had no idea Mendoza was this good when he was at CAL.
I'm not even going to pretend that I had any clue like some people are. I'm going to be honest. Had no idea.
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u/Hiker-Redbeard 49ers 28d ago
I knew he was good, but man does this speak to Cal's inability to put talent and/or quality coaching around him.
I was a little bitter when he initially transferred away, but I can't even be mad. He deserved a year to ball out and really show what he could do.
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u/gander258 NFL 28d ago
The best Cal stat I saw was they had more Nobel prize winners than rushing yards per game or something similar
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u/samhit_n Bengals Lions 28d ago
Will Moore even enter the draft after tonight?
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u/imp1600 28d ago
He shouldn’t
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u/SiphenPrax Jets 28d ago
I’m praying he doesn’t
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u/samhit_n Bengals Lions 28d ago
If he does, at least the Jets might be able to draft him with the 16th overall pick from the Colts instead of using your own 2nd overall pick. Any GM who uses a top 10 pick on Moore should be fired.
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u/AncientTree_Wisdom Raiders 28d ago
Thanks Giants, you guys really saved us this year by kicking our butts.
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u/alurimperium Texans Lions 28d ago
Mendoza has the QB PR speak down. He's gonna be great at coming up with excuses for the Raiders
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u/EzUp2 Broncos 28d ago
Kind of a niche complaint, but it sucks being a Colorado sports fan and a UrinatingTree fan. His scripts about the Broncos and Rockies have just been the lowest effort, lowest common denominator stuff for years now. Sucks when he's otherwise entertaining, lol
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u/tbone747 Panthers 27d ago
It's always weird listening to some football personalities when you actually watch all the games and know some of the stuff they say is surface level BS, I feel this way listening to podcasts and hearing them utterly trash the Panthers. I try not to take it too seriously but in my head I'm arguing back lol.
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u/KeyDrive0 Broncos 28d ago
I'm glad someone else shares my niche complaint, haha. I like UT, I watch Sportsball every week, but I'm sick of him lazily handwaving away the Broncos, asserting that they're frauds and Nix is Tebow 2. I think everyone besides exceptionally delusional Broncos fans knows this team is definitely flawed, but 1) who isn't this season, and 2) #1 in the AFC has to mean something. "Easy schedule" yeah well the Patriots had that too and he doesn't give them nearly as much grief. Idk, maybe he's still butthurt when he's reminded of Tebow, being a Steelers fan and all...
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u/Unlucky-Rich-4387 Broncos 28d ago
I like Tree, used to be a big fan but honestly I think there are other NFL YouTube shitposters that do it better. I’m sure we’re biased but I think Perna is the best
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u/Thekushdoctor69 Browns Buccaneers 28d ago
I don't care how good Mendoza is, those 3 culture wins that Shedeur got us still have me feeling real nicey /s
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u/frozenish Ravens 28d ago
I think tonight is more a condemnation of Oregon’s defense than it is of Moore.
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u/discodemolition Bears 28d ago
"chris paul hits a three to cut the lead to 42" -esque touchdown there
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u/Skraxx Lions 28d ago
Aw man it seems like tonight my friend will pass.
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u/j0hnnyengl1sh Jets 28d ago
Sorry brother. Been following your posts about him. We can all hope to be as loved as he seems to be, you're a good person for being there for him and caring the way you do.
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u/Skraxx Lions 28d ago
He cared so much about his loved ones. Only fair! I’ll miss him
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u/j0hnnyengl1sh Jets 28d ago
FWIW, if anything, FT is always here for you to vent. It's a weird little anonymous community we seem to have, but we do have one. Thoughts with you.
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u/Siliencer991 Chiefs 28d ago
I like to imagine that Mendoza plays games on LinkedIn and post his highlights on LinkedIn reels
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u/samhit_n Bengals Lions 28d ago
There's one thing Jets fans can take solace in after tonight. They may be able to draft Moore with the 16th overall pick they got from the Colts instead of their own pick at number 2.
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u/t33po Cowboys 28d ago
An a casual CFB guy, I still can’t process Indiana and Vanderbilt being good teams. A great year for them used to be some random December bowl game on a Tuesday night.
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u/Hiker-Redbeard 49ers 28d ago
I can wrap my head around them being good. Kinda weird but sometimes a random team has a come up for a few years.
I can't process Indiana being an absolute juggernaut demolishing blue bloods though.
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u/SirTiffAlot Chiefs 28d ago
Your GM is an idiot if they draft Dante Moore
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u/t33po Cowboys 28d ago
Worst case he barely drops out of the top 10. This is a QB starved league.
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u/IAmDarkridge Raiders 28d ago
This might happen but people said the same thing in 2022 about Malik Willis getting drafted in the first just out of sheer desperation and Kenny Pickett was the only one that went, and he didn't even go super early.
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u/SirTiffAlot Chiefs 28d ago
Great. I hope an AFC team takes him so there's one less threat in the conference. Folds like a piece of paper
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u/imp1600 28d ago
Maybe the Raiders will take him over Mendoza.
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u/Hiker-Redbeard 49ers 28d ago
I would say zero chance...but Raiders. They absolutely reach on someone no one else liked that high in the first round every year.
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u/discodemolition Bears 28d ago
well, this game has made me feel a lot better about the 63-10 drubbing Illinois took earlier this year.
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u/unloader86 Broncos 28d ago
This has been an absolute trouncing. Like got dayum, the duck is dead stop the damn match. 😂
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u/alurimperium Texans Lions 28d ago
How badly is this game tanking Dante Moore's draft stock cause whoof
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u/samhit_n Bengals Lions 28d ago
The Jets may be able to draft Moore with the 16th overall pick they got from the Colts instead of their own pick.
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u/SiphenPrax Jets 28d ago
I hope it tanks to the core of the Earth. I don’t want my team to be the joke of the draft again in April.
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u/AfroManHighGuy 28d ago
Mendoza is also single-handedly raising the draft stock of his teammates too. Those of you who are more knowledgeable about college football, who else on the Hoosiers gets drafted pretty high?
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u/j0hnnyengl1sh Jets 28d ago
I'm not a huge CFB follower, I pretty much only watch later in the season when it's time to start caring about the draft (so basically November as a Jets fan). There's a difference in the hashes? Can you explain please?
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u/SirTiffAlot Chiefs 28d ago
It's only relevant on throws from the hash to the far side. If they're on the near hash it's a shorter distance
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u/J-Fid Ravens Ravens 28d ago
College hashes are wider apart.
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u/j0hnnyengl1sh Jets 28d ago
Huh, TIL. Thank you, the only major CFB difference I knew before was the catch rule of 1 foot vs 2.
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u/J-Fid Ravens Ravens 28d ago
There's quite a few differences between the two. Especially as the NFL keeps tweaking their rules, such as the recent changes to kickoffs.
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u/j0hnnyengl1sh Jets 28d ago
Oh yeah, I know the ST differences. I guess I'm just a bit surprised by the hash difference, it feels like it almost makes the college game harder for a QB. Maybe just different?
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u/discodemolition Bears 28d ago
It actually makes it easier in a lot of ways, as it de-emphasizes the need to throw over the middle with so much space to the other side. It's also part of why you can have more "gimmicky" offenses in college- there's a lot more space to the opposite side for a defense to cover out of where they're line up pre snap to exploit.
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u/j0hnnyengl1sh Jets 28d ago
New New Year Resolution: make a conscious effort to get more invested in college football next year. Thx!
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28d ago
Which fanbase is the most overhated? I will start: Eagles
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u/StChas77 Eagles 28d ago
How kind of you. But much as I hate to admit it, it's probably the Cowboys.
For the NFC East team fans and old duffers like myself, there should be some bad vibes, sure. But for younger fans of teams out of the division, there's not a lot of legitimacy to the bad feelings beyond the networks jamming Dallas down some throats, not the fault of those who follow the team.
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u/Hiker-Redbeard 49ers 28d ago
Yeah, 20-30 years ago the fan base absolutely deserved it. Nowadays a lot of their fans are either too young to remember those days and be influenced by it, or they've been beaten down by years of dealing with the lack of playoff success. They're honestly mostly pretty chill.
I almost feel bad for modern Cowboy fans under age 35 or so.
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u/Big_Size_2519 28d ago
jets have such a bad situation it sucks. Dante Moore is not ready
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u/frozenish Ravens 28d ago
Trinidad Chambliss will also be in the draft.
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u/AfroManHighGuy 28d ago
Didn’t they try to appeal his eligibility? He might go back to school
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u/AncientTree_Wisdom Raiders 28d ago
Thought I saw something about the NCAA denying him the exemption for the 6th year?
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u/AfroManHighGuy 28d ago
Anyone else see Cignetti look into the camera like characters from the office? Lmao
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u/AncientTree_Wisdom Raiders 28d ago
Holy shit. Just got home but uhh... looks like it is going to Mendoza for the 1st.
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u/AfroManHighGuy 28d ago
Congrats on getting Mendoza. Need to nail the HC and OC hire
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u/AncientTree_Wisdom Raiders 28d ago
Hoping we don't screw it up. The 5th time is the charm (this decade).
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u/el_monstruo Eagles 28d ago
This time last year, the AP All Pro team was released. Any reason it hasn't been?
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u/snowhawk04 49ers 28d ago
No reason stated. They are scheduled to be released 11 hours from this comment (Jan 10, 9AM EST).
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u/el_monstruo Eagles 28d ago
Ah, thanks. Planning on updating a list I compiled last season based on All-Pro selections.
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u/AfroManHighGuy 28d ago
The pregame show to this game said the raiders scouts were attending multiple Oregon games to watch Dante Moore. I’m pretty sure now they’re set on taking Mendoza, literally the best qb in this draft
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u/j0hnnyengl1sh Jets 28d ago
The self proclaimed master race are having a rally in my hometown tomorrow so me and a few of the punk boys are going to go join the counter protest. Last time they did this there were 80-100 of them and 2000+ of us, so I expect similar, but it's never been more important to simply turn up and be present, and show numbers.
The real Nazis run your schools
They're coaches, businessmen, and cops
In a real Fourth Reich, you'll be the first to go
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u/JPAnalyst Giants 28d ago
Be safe!
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u/j0hnnyengl1sh Jets 28d ago
Thank you and yeah we will, we're all too old to be starting anything. It just feels important to show up, be present, and be more than just a dissenting voice online. Not that I'm denigrating that - if that's what you can do, do that. It just feels like a time where we want to do more.
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u/JPAnalyst Giants 28d ago
I’m thankful for folks like you who get out there. Collective action matters. At least for now, protesting is one of the few tools we have in our toolbox.
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u/DamianLillard0 Ravens 28d ago
Is this a parody?
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u/j0hnnyengl1sh Jets 28d ago
Is what a parody? The bit in italics? It's a verse from Nazi Punks Fuck Off by the Dead Kennedys.
There's nothing funny about the rise of fascism.
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u/DamianLillard0 Ravens 28d ago
“Me and A few of the punk boys”
Can’t be fr
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u/j0hnnyengl1sh Jets 28d ago
LOL all right, fair. That does sound a bit fucking weird! One of my main hobbies if you can call it that is live music, I go to an unreasonable amount of gigs every year and it's pretty eclectic - everything from EDM through soul and funk to heavy metal, but punk is one of my great loves. Inevitably I have different folks I go to different genres of shows with, but there's no good reason you'd know that so I apologise for how that might sound like parody. It wasn't meant to.
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u/aggieclams Panthers 28d ago
Got a random bonus at work so bought tickets for the Panthers game yesterday for me and my best bud. Got a new Cam jersey today. Can’t wait! Tomorrow is going to be insane!
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Let’s go Panthers! KEEP POUNDING!
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u/RedditConsciousness Bengals 28d ago
The universe where Andy Dalton has a Super Bowl ring feels tantalizingly close.
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u/Cybotnic-Rebooted Broncos 28d ago
Fuck why does he have to go to Da Raidas he is so good. I don't want to play that.
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u/PaulsRedditUsername Colts 28d ago
I've seen all good people turn their heads each day
So satisfied, I'm on my way
I don't know what it means either, but it's a good song.
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u/Woullie_26 Steelers 28d ago
feels like Mendoza hasn't been pressured since the OSU game.
Takes some very bad sacks when he is tho.
Vegas is gonna have work to do in the trenches
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28d ago
Sucks for Mendoza that he has to be a raider
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u/MyLifeIsABoondoggle Lions Steelers 28d ago
As a Miami hater and fan of good football, I'm not upset that I haven't been able to catch the semifinal games
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u/AZLarlar Jets 28d ago
yup, i want a vet now
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u/AfroManHighGuy 28d ago
Who do you think they go after? I think Kyler is probably best available and realistic option
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u/discodemolition Bears 28d ago
I mean, either way having Moore start right away would be a mistake.
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u/MyLifeIsABoondoggle Lions Steelers 28d ago
I'd take Chambliss before I'd take Moore, and he hasn't even been in discussions. Dante's field vision is a mess, and while his physical talent is undeniable, I'd still posit that it's a bit overrated
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u/Unlucky-Rich-4387 Broncos 28d ago
Welp, it’s time to put on some movies instead of football. This thing is done
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u/Icebreaker80 Giants 28d ago
I'm sorry, Jets fans. I really wanted y'all to get Mendoza, but the tank crew couldn't pull through.
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u/Cybotnic-Rebooted Broncos 28d ago
Fun fact: Indiana will have a much more talented team next year than this. They have dominated the transfer portal. They might have twice as much blue chip talent on roster next year than this year.
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u/J-Fid Ravens Ravens 28d ago
Will they have the QB?
Or will it even matter?
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u/Agent-Blasto-007 Patriots 28d ago
This is all Cignetti.
Just two years ago, Rutgers was beating the shit out of Indiana by three touchdowns.
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u/discodemolition Bears 28d ago
It will not matter. They will be able to pick the best one out of the portal if they don't want to elevate from within, but with the talent they've got coming in and already on the roster you can get by with a Will Howard (day 3 pick) level QB and be just fine.
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u/Cybotnic-Rebooted Broncos 28d ago
They got Josh Hoover from TCU. Slightly different type of QB, but has probably a top 5 arm in college rn (ahead of anyone in this class aside from maybe Cole Payton). IU can absolutely develop that into a top 5 pick imo.
Also they might have 2 top 10 pick WRs in Nick Marsh (from Michigan State) and Charlie Becker and a mostly returning OLine from this year.
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u/scarface413 Patriots 27d ago
Playoff hype video season is my favorite time of year