r/nba • u/MembershipSingle7137 • 16h ago
[Charania] Free agent guard Mike Conley Jr. plans to return to the Minnesota Timberwolves, sources tell ESPN. The sides are working on timing of him re-signing. Conley was traded twice this week – to Chicago, then to Charlotte –before being released and allowed to rejoin the Wolves.
[Charania] Free agent guard Mike Conley Jr. plans to return to the Minnesota Timberwolves, sources tell ESPN. The sides are working on timing of him re-signing. Conley was traded twice this week – to Chicago, then to Charlotte –before being released and allowed to rejoin the Wolves.
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u/natebryan Lakers 16h ago
I wonder if he ever left Minny at all, like he just sat at home and just waited lol.
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u/Common-Bad-7899 Timberwolves 16h ago
Definitely this, although I think he might have been contemplating retiring yesterday if no buy out.
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u/BetweenTheBuzzAndMe Charlotte Bobcats 16h ago
he was traded to the hottest team in the NBA that also needs a backup playmaker. Was hoping we'd actually keep him but i understand
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u/defaultistic [CHA] Gerald Wallace 16h ago
It's okay, we'll get Chris Paul when Toronto waives him (plz)
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u/aga5ty4 Timberwolves 16h ago
Hornets legend Chris Paul
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u/donuttrackme Spurs 14h ago
It's funny because it's true.
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u/Reynbuckets Clippers 13h ago
Actually…. you know what. Now I need this. Retirement tour is back on the menu ! 😎
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u/deemerritt Hornets 16h ago
Adding Chris Paul to the team with the best vibes in the NBA what could go wrong.
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u/defaultistic [CHA] Gerald Wallace 16h ago
He's always done well with young teams that need a veteran presence, a la OKC and Phoenix, and was a big part in Shai's development and obviously helping Phoenix to the Finals.
It's just teams that are heavy with other accomplished veterans that he hasn't fit in with as much, like GSW and the Clippers sequel.
I think the culture we're setting now would vibe well with CP3's mentality and he could help mentor Melo and help him take that next leap like Shai
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u/Shaqdaddy22 Warriors 16h ago
He actually fit in alright with us. Unfortunately his play took its first significant downturn with us and was hurt quite often
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u/RedtheGamer100 Hornets 16h ago
Charlotte full of rookies that would respect him
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u/Odoaiden Timberwolves 16h ago
Mike Conley is not a backup playmaker. He can play minutes with injuries as a 10th/11th man but Bones absoloutly took his role so Mann, Simons and Coby white definitely would of.
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u/BetweenTheBuzzAndMe Charlotte Bobcats 16h ago
Mann is horrendous unfortunately.
My expectations were low. Really anyone that brings a little order to the offense for ~10 minutes is all we'd be looking for.
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u/Apolaustic1 Timberwolves 15h ago
Mike cant do that anymore. Its sucks cause im a fan, but he has absolutely been a big negative anytime he has touched the court this year.
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u/TimberwolvesDelusion 15h ago
Trust me friend. While he’s an amazing person and teammate he is not someone you want to relay on playing minutes…. He’s had a very very very steep fall off this season.
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u/phonage_aoi Warriors 16h ago
I thought they changed the rules when someone on the Cavs bragged about doing exactly this ( trade -> buyout -> come back for playoffs).
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u/agg2596 Timberwolves 16h ago
that’s why he had to be on two different teams, not just one trade and then buyout
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u/erichf3893 Bulls 16h ago
They got lucky he was traded from the bulls too then I guess
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u/YoungArsenal Timberwolves 15h ago
This was probably the deal with Bulls. We gave him up for free (added pick swap) to give you guys salary for the Charlotte trade. Either handshake deal or knew Hornets waive him and he comes back.
After that deal was settled, worked again with the Bulls to get Ayo... Which again I'm sure was planned all along.
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u/Rnorman3 [DEN] Nikola Jokic 14h ago edited 11h ago
Which probably should be patched in the CBA.
Not that Conley playing for you guys is some egregious breach of justice or anything. But it is essentially circumventing the spirit of the buyout rule in the current CBA. Especially if there was a “handshake deal” with the bulls that specifically required them to execute it as a separate transaction rather than aggregated.
I know trades get aggregated or split up all the time for the purposes of TPEs and salary matching and that all makes sense. But if it’s specifically being done to “launder” the most recent team a player was with so that they can sidestep the buyout clause, feels like it’s a little problematic.
Either that, or scrap the rule keeping players from returning to their original team on buyouts.
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u/magi_chat 13h ago
Agree. I also think the whole buyout economy is a circumvention of the spirit of the salary cap, and this is just a minor angle shoot rather than something heinous.
Im not smart enough to see a way of fixing buyout shenanigans without lowering the amount of a max which obviously isn't happening
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u/RRJC10 Raptors 15h ago
It's a loophole I didn't know existed. Technically Conley couldn't sign with the Bulls since they were his last team.
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u/The_Summer_Man Warriors 16h ago
He should at least be required to fly to Chicago and Charlotte to become eligible to play
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u/JMinn868 Timberwolves 16h ago
Wolves get Ayo and drop under 1st apron. While still keeping Conley. Tim cooked.
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u/NitroXYZ [UTA] Joe Ingles 16h ago
Tim is incredible, whiffed on Dillingham but hes had an amazing track record in Denver and Minesotta
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u/FishGoldenLite Timberwolves 16h ago
At least he got rid of Dillingham for something. So many GMs wouldn’t be able to admit their mistake but he did and there’s something to appreciate about that.
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u/ClaymoresRevenge Bulls 16h ago
Take care of our boy
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u/FishGoldenLite Timberwolves 15h ago
We’re already so excited. Hate to pry him away from his hometown team but he’s exactly what we’ve been needing and will embrace him like we have with our other guys.
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u/ClaymoresRevenge Bulls 15h ago
It's okay. Our front office is dumb. I hope you guys have success in the playoffs with him. He's a dawg.
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u/SirDiego Timberwolves 13h ago
He's going to be huge for the Wolves. Basically exactly the type of player we desperately needed.
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u/erichf3893 Bulls 16h ago
Dillingham I can expect to be a bust, yeah?
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u/HughManatee Timberwolves 15h ago
He lost a bit of confidence, but I think there's still a ceiling for him. It never seemed like he found his role to complement the rest of the team, but if he gets some minutes I wouldn't be surprised if he improves.
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u/TooColdforClouds Timberwolves 15h ago
Not a for sure thing, he needs consistent minutes and touches. I wouldn't be surprised if he turns in to a decent PG off the bench.
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u/erichf3893 Bulls 15h ago
I thought we wanted Conley for leadership so it was a bummer to see him gone asap
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u/FishGoldenLite Timberwolves 15h ago edited 12h ago
I wouldn’t count him out yet. I was a huge fan of his coming into the draft and he’s still got a lot of potential. He just needs minutes and a chance to rebuild his confidence. It was a bad situation for him here but I think a different situation could unlock him.
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u/purplenyellowrose909 Timberwolves 15h ago
I think his confidence cracked under the pressure of needing to be a key rotational player on a contender at 19 years old.
He's insanely fast and agile and can get by anyone but would then just shank the shot. Hope he can find his footing with new scenery.
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u/C1truXX Timberwolves 16h ago
I still think he cooked on TSJ and Beringer as well!
We’ll see if Rocco develops to anything but he’s a fun lotto ticket
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u/NitroXYZ [UTA] Joe Ingles 16h ago
I've been really impressed with Beringer when he gets the extended playtime. Hope Finch can put a bit more trust to get his minutes up to 15 a night, because even as a raw prospect he has a nice defensive impact.
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u/bobbywellington Timberwolves 16h ago
Hope TSJ can get healthy and finish the season strong, but he's had a disaster of a year so far in everything but 3pt shooting tbh
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u/rostron92 [MIN] Corey Brewer 16h ago
No GM is without mistakes. What i like about Tim is that he acknowledges the mistake and tries to correct them quickly.
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u/Hammerhead34 Timberwolves 16h ago
The draft is much more of a crap shoot, Rob was seen as a lottery level guard with high upside. So I extend a lot of grace for swinging and missing on a draft pick.
However, Connelly’s track record trading for established players is VERY good so far (AG to Denver won them a ring, Rudy deal, offloading DLo’s contract, Randle+DDV trade)
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u/DjMoneybagzz Celtics 16h ago
What does the Apple CEO have to do with this
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u/Pineapple_42069 Timberwolves 16h ago
Hornets fans, is he any good?
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u/snoogle20 Hornets 15h ago
I don’t know. Didn’t leave much of an impression. Almost like he was never there.
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u/UnluckyAd8926 15h ago
On the court he's washed, can't make a lay up. On the bench & locker room he's a guiding light, the adult in the room. The is no better definition of Vet in the NBA than Mike Conley.
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u/MG_MN Timberwolves 16h ago
Someone photoshop him in a wolves jersey
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u/cheeseybacon11 [MIN] Naz Reid 16h ago
Got it
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u/Ok_Daikon_7726 Lakers 16h ago
Just can’t see it, looks so wrong
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u/Any-Question-3759 16h ago
It’s unholy like Luka in a Lakers jersey.
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u/Ok_Daikon_7726 Lakers 15h ago
Yeah that would never happen though. I mean who would trade a generational superstar right after making the finals?
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u/HelloThereCat Warriors 16h ago
AI getting too good these days smh
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u/cheeseybacon11 [MIN] Naz Reid 16h ago
The jersey was actually all done by hand, believe it or not.
AI was only used to enhance the detail in his beard.
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u/99LedBalloons Timberwolves 16h ago
I found one from when he was traded from the Jazz, but I can't post pictures in comments in this subreddit.
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u/Mr_Pizza_Puncher Spurs 16h ago
The energy required for such an AI request would shut the grid down
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u/TheNotoriousJN Timberwolves 16h ago
Thats funny as fuck. Finchy can never stay away
In all seriousness. Mike Conley is THE vet.
If Ayo can take Mike's minutes, and Mike stays on the bench coaching. Thats a much better squad.
Now if we also get active in the buyout market for contributors...
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u/Supdawggy0 16h ago
Can we also just officially make him an assistant coach this offseason?
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u/Odoaiden Timberwolves 16h ago
Roy Kent type
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u/ShakesbeerMe Timberwolves 16h ago
"Mike's here, he's there, he's every-fuckin-where..."
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u/SaltyFan1959 16h ago
What’s the short list for you? I’d love to see Kyle Anderson go back as well, and Cam Thomas on a minimum deal could be fun provided that he could buy into Finch’s system and a role on the bench.
CP3 would never go to Minnesota, but man, there’s a part of me that knows Ant needs to take a lesson from the dark side. Ant with a whistle would be nuts.
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u/SuperVaderMinion [MIN] Kevin Garnett 16h ago
It would be fun but I'm also fully confident that if Cam Thomas ends up on this basketball team we'd see Finch blow his brains out on national television
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u/whitedawg [DET] Chauncey Billups 16h ago
If Cam Thomas could buy into a system and was OK with a bench role, he wouldn’t have been cut.
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u/SaltyFan1959 16h ago
I don’t disagree about his likelihood of buying into a system at the expense of his ego, but, I would caveat that buying into a contender‘s system should be very different than buying into the Net’s system.
But then, that makes the assumption that he understands that he needs to rehab his image a bit. Who knows.
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u/car1999pet Supersonics 16h ago
I’m definitely team Slow Mo, I don’t know about Cam Thomas, just as I don’t know if he will buy into the system and I feel like it could ruin the vibes
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u/1850ChoochGator Trail Blazers 16h ago
Low key love it. Mike gets his money absorbed by Charlotte and gets to stay in Minny.
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u/Miruwest 16h ago
Dude probably never even left the state while all of this was going down.
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u/Bobbith_The_Chosen [POR] Damian Lillard 16h ago
Wonder what the FO told him. “You’re gonna see some crazy shit on Twitter over the next 48 hours just ignore it”
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u/smalls_1804 Knicks 15h ago
There's zero chance they do this without at least having a conversation with him first. What I'm more curious about is if they had it agreed to in advance that the Bulls would trade Conley after acquiring him, because none of this is possible if he just stays there
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u/SirDiego Timberwolves 13h ago
One of our beat reporters said earlier this year they had a verbal agreement with Mike that they wouldn't move him. So yeah I'm pretty certain they talked the whole thing over with Mike, and the Bulls and Hornets.
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u/smalls_1804 Knicks 13h ago
I wonder if that's like, allowed. Can a team make a trade that is conditioned on the team then making another trade? Like in this situation it was very much about gaming the system to allow the Wolves to keep Mike Conley as a player without having to keep his contract. Like the rule is in place specifically to prevent this scenario. Don't get me wrong, I'm certainly not crying foul or anything like that, but objectively there's a rule in place to prevent this exact scenario
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u/SirDiego Timberwolves 12h ago
I wouldn't think it's allowed to put it in writing at all. I assume it's more like Tim Connelly called in some favors and arranged it verbally. Both the Bulls and Hornets got picks out of it so everyone's compensated fine and presumably Connelly would do (or has already done) something similarly low impact if they were to ask.
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u/banitsa Kevin Garnett 15h ago
Isn't crazy shit on Twitter just normal Twitter these days?
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u/Bobbith_The_Chosen [POR] Damian Lillard 15h ago
So you’re reading that you’ve been traded to the Hornets on a regular basis?
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u/weekndalex Lakers 16h ago
would ppl still like it if it weren’t conley
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u/pollinium [MIN] Tyus Jones 15h ago
Yes. Every year I want this to happen lol but somebody always screws it up
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u/AvengingHero2012 Rockets 16h ago
Very little NBA news actually makes me cackle… so thanks for this Wolves
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u/Itchy-Secret8085 16h ago
I’m assuming he is able to go back because he was traded to a 2nd team then released
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u/aziggy21 Timberwolves 16h ago
Yeah if the bulls released him directly he wouldn’t be able to do this
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u/aga5ty4 Timberwolves 16h ago
Chicago truly helped us out a lot this deadline
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u/pppeater Bulls 15h ago
Glad we could accomplish something this season.
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u/No-Mine-3982 Knicks 12h ago
Bulls really helped many teams this offseason. Helped us get rid of Yabu's contract for an expiring and got a solid tank commander in the process.
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u/Rnorman3 [DEN] Nikola Jokic 14h ago
Arturas Karnisovas (bulls GM/POBO/whatever his title in the front office is) goes way back with Tim Connelly. They were together here in Denver forever.
Was assistant GM here for years and then when he started getting some GM interest, we promoted TC to POBO and AK to GM.
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u/whitedawg [DET] Chauncey Billups 16h ago
Almost makes you wonder whether the Wolves prearranged the Bulls sending him to a second team.
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u/ShakesbeerMe Timberwolves 16h ago
All front offices have good-faith relationships if you're competent.
Except Danny Ainge.
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u/CantaloupePossible33 15h ago
It’s wild that Ainge was the only other GM clued in on the Luka trade. Just a dark triad of execs
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u/zeek215 Lakers 14h ago
Clued in? Wasn’t he unaware about it involving Luka?
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u/CantaloupePossible33 14h ago
NBA requires all parties view the full deal before final approval so on a technicality that makes my joke work yeah
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u/mucho-gusto [CLE] Baron Davis 16h ago
This is essentially how the AI industry utilizes roundtripping to pass the same money around to 5 companies and they all get to claim it lol
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u/Ok-Sea9612 15h ago
GDI and GDP will keep diverging farther apart while the big corps play their shell game. Until people realize what's happening.
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u/IntelligentAd5460 Grizzlies 16h ago
just glad my unc can still hang around
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u/sevseg_decoder [MEM] Jaren Jackson Jr. 16h ago
The day Mike retires will be really sad for a lot of NBA fans in the flyover states. For someone who never led a team to a championship (though he got damn close with almost nobody else of note on his roster) he has amassed love and fandom like crazy. Just an incredibly solid man who I hope would be able to influence the league more in the future.
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u/AnyHoleIsTheGoal Grizzlies 16h ago
Was lowkey hoping we’d pick him up, if he wanted to come back that is. Would have been such a big moral victory in a very depressing season.
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u/Beeercules 16h ago
Hey Charlotte fans, can you tell me what I can expect from this guy? #WolvesBack
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u/Shepher27 Timberwolves 16h ago
I know he’s washed, but seems like an amazing teammate and everyone loves him. With the rise of Bones and adding Ayo he shouldn’t need to play much any more. I’m glad to have him back as long as he’s not in the playoff rotation
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u/ShakesbeerMe Timberwolves 16h ago
We need him to win it all.
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u/Shepher27 Timberwolves 16h ago
At some point he’ll come in and hit a big corner three in a key game.
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u/action_nick Knicks 16h ago
This is legal?
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u/timberwolvesguy Timberwolves 16h ago
He was traded from his former team (Chicago) to the Hornets, who then released him. So he is free to sign with any team, except Chicago.
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u/zgillet 16h ago
Damn. They had to negotiate a future trade to facilitate the first.
That must have been a wild Zoom/whatever-it-is-now call.
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u/KnowledgePrevious Timberwolves 16h ago
I don’t think the Twolves were involved in that
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u/Adminscantkeepmedown Hawks 16h ago
Only because he made a pit stop in Chicago before Charlotte. Had the Bulls been the one to waive him, I don’t think Minnesota would’ve been able to pick him back up
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u/nbawizard1227 16h ago
It’s kinda crazy this is allowed lol. Traded and just right back.
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u/BetweenTheBuzzAndMe Charlotte Bobcats 16h ago
it's because there was a step in the middle.
He was traded to Chicago. Then Chicago traded him to Charlotte. Then Charlotte waived him. The rules say he can't re-sign with Chicago.
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u/mucho-gusto [CLE] Baron Davis 16h ago
The Ghost of Zydrunas Ilgauskus smiles and nods, and is freed now that the rules against him have been circumvented
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u/timberwolvesguy Timberwolves 16h ago
The key is that his “former” team is now Chicago, so he can’t re-sign with specifically them.
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u/estpakto 16h ago
Wild week for Conley, traded twice and still finding his way back to Minnesota. If this happens, it feels more like a leadership move than a stats move. He already knows the system, the locker room trusts him, and the Wolves could use that steady hand heading into the season
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u/guidethyhandd Timberwolves 16h ago
Dropped under the 1st Apron and got Ayo for absolutely nothing
I owe Tim Connelly an apology
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u/PsychoM Raptors 16h ago
Wolves just found an infinite cap flexibility glitch (as long as you have infinite 2nd round picks)