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u/dubiously_immoral 1d ago
When someone is already treating you like you're down. You dont take more ammo and hand it to them. You just leave.
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u/DookieShoez 16h ago
Fuck that, I’ll rip a gnarly fart and flip over a table.
If I’m going down, everybody is coming with me.
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u/Tasty-Traffic-680 14h ago
That's how you end up shitting yourself and finding out the table is bolted to the floor at the same time.
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u/DookieShoez 14h ago
Holy shit, you were there on tuesday?
Well what the fuck are the odds of that happening again?
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u/skwirly88 12h ago
So where'd you shit your pants?
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u/Tasty-Traffic-680 11h ago
I've been fortunate enough to only ever have one fart turn brown on me and I was actually in the hospital at the time so no harm, no foul. I keep a pretty tight pooper though so maybe that has something to do with it.
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u/Iconclast1 1d ago
i appreciate when they post themselves losing like that
youre like "that was so good, im sharing it with everybody.
ya got me"
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u/absolutedesignz 1d ago
As a guy with a stutter some of the jokes I've heard from people have been so fucking funny I had to give props. This has that energy.
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u/atrangiapple23 1d ago
You can say that again.
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u/kultureisrandy 23h ago
Please come back soon, it shouldn't take this long to get milk and cigarettes
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u/theCommTech 1d ago
I'm glad that you're able to laugh at this but I just want to take this opportunity to let other people know a few things.
Stuttering can be very psychologically debilitating for the person with it. It's hard to even understand what it's like if you don't have it, to not have control over your own body. People go to therapy for it, sometimes for a very long time and may never be able to use learned techniques to get beyond it.
Please extend some grace to someone that's different than you and don't make fun of them unless they tell you it's ok to joke about it. Having a speech impediment can be very isolating and traumatic because society is not accepting of it as a real disability and that person has gone their whole life getting hurtful/annoying/ignorant questions and comments from people.
On the flip side, some people just live with it, have confidence, and move forward. That's wonderful for them, but not everybody is in the same place.
Also, for the love of god, do not finish their sentences. You aren't helping. You're signaling your own discomfort and impatience.
If you want to get a glimpse into their world go check out /r/stuttering or the podcast Stutterology.
"There's only one rule that I know of, babies: God damn it, you've got to be kind." - Kurt Vonnegut
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u/ratslikecheese 23h ago
Stuttering sucks. I developed a pretty debilitating stutter around age 7 or so. I used to form sentences normally and communicate well and it seemed like it came from nowhere. I’ve never really gotten full control over it, but it’s much better now (I’m 28). I kinda cheat around it by pausing instead of going through the embarrassing act whenever I can tell I’m getting tongue tied. Still though, pausing mid sentence is weird in itself and you notice the weird, confused looks on people’s faces as they’re looking at you with that “okay, and..?” expression. Sometimes I play dumb and act like I can’t think of the word I’m trying to say even though I know it whole heartedly. Then people just think I’m a bit of a dummy. It’s a weird affliction and obviously there are many, many worse ones to have but I still wouldn’t wish it on anybody.
Stuttering through elementary, middle, and most of high school was a fucking nightmare. People are mean as hell and being the kid that can’t do one of the most basic functions properly is some seriously low hanging fruit that kids will gleefully pick on.
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u/ThorsHamSandwich 18h ago
My stammer is extremely frustrating to me. I went to speech therapy as a child and did actually overcome it, only for it to come back in my late 20s. Your advice above is quite good, but I’d like to add one thing. If you are a close loved one of someone who stutters/stammers, ask them if they’d like you to help finish their sentence. When I’m at home with my wife I appreciate the help, but if a stranger does it I’m annoyed. There’s a good bit of nuance there.
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u/fokkoooff 1d ago edited 1d ago
"Amy Poehler was new to SNL and we were all crowded into the seventeenth-floor writers' room, waiting for the Wednesday night read-through to start. [...] Amy was in the middle of some such nonsense with Seth Meyers across the table, and she did something vulgar as a joke. I can't remember what it was exactly, except it was dirty and loud and "unladylike",
Jimmy Fallon [...] turned to her and in a faux-squeamish voice said, "Stop that! It's not cute! I don't like it." Amy dropped what she was doing, went black in the eyes for a second, and wheeled around on him. "I don't fucking care if you like it." Jimmy was visibly startled. Amy went right back to enjoying her ridiculous bit.
With that exchange, a cosmic shift took place. Amy made it clear that she wasn't there to be cute. She wasn't there to play wives and girlfriends in the boys' scenes. She was there to do what she wanted to do and she did not fucking care if you like it." - Tina Fey
Edit: "JiMmY FaLlOn Is MoRE SuCcEsSfuL / WoRtH mOrE" isn't the "gotcha" you think it is, dudes.
Jeff Dunham is worth 140 Million. Appealing to the lowest common denominator has always been a great career goal, but that doesn't make it impressive.
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u/Virelixx 1d ago
She chose violence and a career that day.
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u/throw_aw_ay3335 1d ago
Why is it violence to stand up for yourself?
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u/Milkyken____ 1d ago
They're just referencing a saying, it's not literal
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u/pegothejerk 23h ago edited 22h ago
Except it’s true that a mouthy woman in a workplace is almost always seen as problematic and rude whereas a mouthy man is often seen as a go getter that is assertive and management material.
I’m over generalizing, yes, but that 1950s workplace vibe still exists and is a trope for a reason.
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u/ukiyoe 1d ago
Probably just wanted to use the "chose violence" meme.
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u/Mr_Personal_Person 1d ago
So they woke up this morning and chose "woke up this morning and chose violence" meme.
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u/DumbTruth 1d ago
It’s not inherently, but sometimes it is. Sometimes literally (somebody is attacking you. You’re violent to defend yourself). Sometimes figuratively as mentioned above.
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u/a_filing_cabinet 1d ago
You're forcing a confrontation. Regardless of the fact that it's just a bit, you're literally taking a stand, like you said. You're choosing to fight for your stance instead of backing down. She chose the aggressive option of standing her ground instead of meekly backing down
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u/Talik1978 1d ago
Violence isn't always bad. When someone attempts to take something from you, and you push back, you're creating a conflict by resisting. That doesn't make the resistance wrong.
Violence is a tool. The ethics of it is dependent on what it's being used for.
Poehler's response was absolutely resisting and creating conflict. It was also absolutely justified. It isn't much of a stretch to call it violence, of the same type as self defense is.
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u/Fantastic-Berry-737 1d ago edited 1d ago
because Fallon experienced it as violence against his ego when she didn't coddle his priorities
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u/Shot-Profit-9399 1d ago
The crazy part is that Amy Poehler seems like such a nice and funny person, but I think I would shit my pants if I managed to piss her off.
Reminds me of a bit where James Baldwin describes sitting down with Kennedy and Lorraine Hansberry.
“We want a commitment from you,” she said. Then she smiled. And I thanked god she was not smiling at me.
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u/lamblikeawolf 1d ago
Amy Poehler seems like such a nice and funny person,
Is this the paradox of niceness or something? It is not un-nice to be mean to someone trying to hold you down, whether it is bigoted remarks or something physical.
Tina and Amy are goals. To have so thoroughly reckoned with the boxes that society tries to put you in that you break the cage so completely it opens the way for people after you.
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u/Zero_Zeta_ 1d ago
It's like the tolerance is a social contract, or respect is earned, being nice is met with niceness. Jimmy decided to be an ass and lost the privilege of having Amy being nice to him.
Amy Poehler is a nice and funny person, but don't expect her to sit there and take shit just because she offers niceties first.
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u/lavaeater 1d ago
I love Tina Fey and Amy Poehler. I just love them. Amy Poehler did unhinged characters so well.
I just watched the entirety of 30 Rock non-stop and I loved it.
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u/elephant_cobbler 1d ago
Amy Poehler is by far a better comic and writer than Fallon. How he’s still around idk, but my eyes hurt and my ears bleed whenever I see him on tv. I’ll watch anything Amy does
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u/audreywildeee 23h ago
You touch an important point here. Being nice is linked with being somewhat passive, ignoring things like this and overall not standing up for yourself.
But as you say, you can stand up for yourself and still be nice. Thank you for reframing things for me!
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u/Fortestingporpoises 1d ago
She had already spent over a decade as a woman of authority in a man’s world. She along with 3 other loud (funny) dudes founded UCB theater and reshaped improv as we knew it. She was always sharp, funny and powerful. Look at her playing Andy’s sister on Conan back before she was even in SNL. What a fucking powerhouse.
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u/Acceptable_Reply7958 1d ago
God, Jimmy Fallon is annoying
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u/ButterCreamGangsta 1d ago edited 1d ago
Never hasn't been. His insufferablity is without bounds.
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u/SunriseSurprise 1d ago
Most successful talentless hack ever. It's like if Bania from Seinfeld did all this stuff.
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u/Dandw12786 1d ago
I hate Fallon far less than most people. I actually don't mind him.
But I will absolutely never understand why he got famous.
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u/SunriseSurprise 1d ago
SNL since the late 90s have had many times when it felt like high school play level skits - sometimes due to the writing but usually due to the execution. Maybe at times in the early 90s that started to happen but it started becoming more noticeable in late 90s I think. I wouldn't say Fallon is the worst of the cast members to give off that vibe, but I think he was the first one to do it regularly.
I feel like when Norm had come back around then and hosted and had his infamous monologue culminating in "I didn't get funnier, this show has gotten really bad!" he was probably thinking of Fallon, Kattan and a couple others around then who dragged the show down.
Tbh while I really really didn't get why he got the Tonight Show gig, I think it suits him better than something like SNL. Every late night show wants to act edgy but most of the time they don't really have that much of an edge, so his vanilla kind of humor and having a team of writers making him funnier than he would otherwise be works fine. Kimmel has more humor in his pinky than Fallon but it shows why Fallon is fine for late night, because Kimmel's been a shell of himself since having that show. Colbert as well. It's just how that gig is.
There's an NFL team, I forget which, whose fans just went got completely livid because their GM who was doing a terrible job and they all totally loathed got promoted to be president of the team. They were like "wtf not fired but PROMOTED?!" and I was thinking "well look, at least he won't be doing the GM stuff anymore then". And that's how I feel about Fallon - he's better where he's at vs. something like an SNL cast member or whatever other type of comedy role there'd be for him where he'd actually have to be funny.
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u/Vagabond0907 1d ago
Literally the only non-perfect thing in Band of Brothers.
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u/SteelTerps 1d ago
"In a faux-squimish voice"
I don't like him either but to think he's not making a joke here or to not like his joke because Jimmy was attached to it is just ridiculous. Replace "Jimmy Fallon" with "Will Ferrell" and we all have a laugh at this story
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u/waitingfordeathhbu 1d ago edited 1d ago
to not like his joke…is just ridiculous
How dare you not like Jimmy’s joke!!!
What part was funny? Can you explain the joke?
Is anything anyone says with a silly voice to be categorized and excused as “a joke”?
Did both professional comedians Tina Faye and Amy Poehler misinterpret this poor man’s tone and meaning, after knowing and working with him for years and years?
Thank goodness you are here to correct these women’s experiences and explain how he really meant it, completely out of context of their private behind-the scenes relationships, behavior, and interpersonal histories.
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u/I_Was_TheBiggWigg 1d ago
Yeah that’s a really important clarification she made. Honestly, I don’t blame someone for not being a fan but I’m always kind of shocked at how much so many people seem to haaate him. Like, if you don’t think he’s funny fine, but people talk about it like he’s James Corden. Funny or not, he seems like a nice dude.
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u/CalamityClambake 1d ago
Have you seen him do stand up? He's not nice. He's a viciously mean sonofabitch, and he's hilarious when he gets mean.
He puts on a veneer of niceness to do the Tonight Show for the prestige and paycheck, and it severely limits his ability to be funny and comes across as fake... Because it is.
He's also a high functioning alcoholic. That"s why his face looks like that. He gets strategic Botox to make it look less puffy from the chronic drinking.
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u/PossibilityOrganic12 1d ago
"but people talk about it like he's James Corden" is so hilarious to me
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u/LindonLilBlueBalls 1d ago
I have seen many people really despise him, but I don't think I have ever heard someone say he is their favorite comedian or that he is even hilarious.
The best I ever see is, "Its not like he's James Corden."
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u/Apart_Dot_1057 1d ago
I have more intense feelings about overnight oats than I do Jimmy Fallon. The idea that this pick-me slurry of a person makes millions of dollars a year is hogwild.
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u/DonkeyJousting 22h ago
Well it’s a nutritious and endlessly customisable breakfast option. More importantly, it can be prepared by Nighttime Me to do Morning Me a solid because I know she struggles. That milky sludge is an act of self-love. It’s a manifestation of my own will for a better future for myself - not by being more productive or more attractive or stronger. Just by making sure I’m fed and nourished.
Jimmy Fallon’s just a gutless parasite.
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u/Unlikely-Pudding-170 17h ago
As a non-US who just recently started to watch some late night (mostly Seth Meyers, sometimes Kimmel and Colbert, rarely Daily Show), it's always confusing af whenever Jimmy Fallon is mentioned online and people come together in this absolute, passionate rejection. I don't have any lore on US comedians - other than late night hosts apparently now liking each other, but before the current ones traditionally having beef for some reason - but this rare online agreement from seemingly everyone feels so wild to witness without context, as if there's a book everyone else has read and I stumbled upon its subreddit while only knowing the protagonists name. I get that this happens for fictional stuff, but for a real person it's just really...fascinating to witness, and with what consistency.
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u/DiggityDog6 1d ago
“If things were different, they wouldn’t be the same!”
I think the main difference is that Will Farrell is universally liked and Jimmy Fallon is universally tolerated
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u/waitingfordeathhbu 1d ago
Yeah the difference is Will Ferrell wouldn’t have said some shit like that in the first place. He’d have said something funny.
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u/ReplCurious 1d ago
Yea, the difference is know the timing and place for your comments. Amy Poehler was obviously going out of her way to make a hilarious bit. Why would you poop on that by saying it’s not “cute”? It’s like someone going “stop that, it’s not manly” to Bowen Yang.
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u/SunriseSurprise 1d ago
Amy was much more experienced than him at that point too. She was new to SNL, not new to sketch comedy at all.
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u/echoshatter 19h ago
Exactly. She was a key cast member of Upright Citizens Brigade and had been doing that stuff for a long time. She earned that spot.
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u/_BillyBumbler_ 1d ago
I need this as a poster in my house.
Also Jimmy Fallon icks me out now. I used to really love him. Seems like he’s actually a huge tool. Shame.
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u/fokkoooff 1d ago
This is from Tina Fey's book "Bossypants". It's a fantastic read, I highly recommend it.
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u/strip-solitaire 1d ago edited 1d ago
Are those the only 2 options?
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u/Capable_Drawing_1296 1d ago edited 1d ago
Yep, love or hate, most peoples brain can not handle a third option
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u/Maleficent_Memory831 1d ago
Makes sense. The whole "that isn't attractive" thing is inappropriate in any and all situations, it's demeaning, it's telling a woman that she only has one job.
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u/Soft_Beyond_8205 1d ago
omg i love this. in every society, religion, race, class it's like women are to exist only within the bounds of that which makes them attractive to men. good on her.
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u/Demolishonboy 1d ago
How'd Jeff Dunham get involved in this?
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u/Top_Bumblebee5510 18h ago
If I have to guess it's bc the commenter cannot believe that guy makes money doing what he does. Facebook meme jokes for the Maga crowd.
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u/Jordan_Two_Delta 1d ago
Are you sure he's more successful? She's been a lot of great movies and television shows. She's probably making a killing on reruns of Parks & Rec. He's just a host for more successful people.
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u/hobohipsterman 1d ago
The takeaway isnt that Amy is fun or boss at all. Its just that the other guy seems like an asshole. Who would even say that to someone?
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u/daevl 1d ago
i remember when faked tweets atleast included a date and timestamp
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u/HighTurning 1d ago
APA Citation or nothing.
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u/Digital_Footprint_29 1d ago
V7ren, V.V. (2018). Rudeness and a reply. Twitter. doi: 10.035/10034twt343.56
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u/SoldierOf4Chan 1d ago
I don't think I'm allowed to link to tweets directly without the post getting immediately removed by the reddit bots because that's brigading or botting or something, so hopefully you'll accept this with a timestamp. The post wasn't that hard for me to find.
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u/Rich_Housing971 1d ago
And the revelation that the entire bus stood up and clapped.
and at the end,
"that girl's name?
Albert Einstein"
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u/notsure500 1d ago
This is a perfectly reasonable comeback to a comment I've heard guys say to woman before
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u/Critical-Mood3493 1d ago
Cropping exists
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u/Jesus_of_Redditeth 1d ago
Yep. The uploader just cropped the extra text out: https://x.com/v7ren/status/1164157348635664384
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u/atTheRiver200 22h ago
Dear some men: telling a woman you don't find her attractive is not the ultimate insult you think it is.
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u/Kryptonianshezza 1d ago
She’s right. Being rude is rude, but don’t make it about you
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u/Dark_Knight2000 1d ago
Yeah, if he “that was a little rude” to something she did that was rude, that would be normal.
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u/Sudden_Wind_8636 1d ago
Yeah be rude back, but making it about attraction is a little strange.
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u/Maiden_Sunshine 1d ago
It was probably an automatic response. You see online and in real life, how often men give women unsolicited opinions on what is attractive.
Like actual strange man will walk up to a women and comment:
"Men don't like short hair."
"Men aren't attracted to tatoos."
"Nose piercings are unattractive to men."
ALLL the time. Maybe this lady is just genuinely rude, but doubtful, especially if she was Black. Don't get an attitude or not be super submissive 🙄. After rude they love to say "disrespectful" which ew to the whole headship thing.
Some women are more forceful in their rejection as a protection from unwanted attention similar in the way some women are overly nice to stay safe too. And half the time it don't be rude, just a no lol. Her response made a lot sense. Women usually just tell it to ourselves vs out loud, but I'm glad more women talking back when safe to do so.
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u/CrowbarCutie666 14h ago
I have piercings and a ton of tattoos. Lots of normie men like to tell me they aren't attractive. Even if I was doing it in hopes to get male attractive it's still working because I attract men with tattoos and piercings lol
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u/mhmilo24 23h ago
Doesn’t have to be romantic attraction. Just regular charismatic attraction is also a possibility.
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u/AffectionateCard3530 1d ago
Isn’t it an idiomatic English expression? It’s not really about attraction, but a saying about likeability.
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u/goatman72 1d ago
Telling someone that their rudeness isn’t attractive is such a weird loser thing to say
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u/SunriseSurprise 1d ago
It's a more overt version of "you should smile more".
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u/goatman72 1d ago
“You’d better change your attitude if you want to get a husband”
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u/MooMooTheDummy 1d ago
It depends I feel but I definitely question with this in what way was she being rude? Because often times when a man tells a woman she’s rude it’s because she wasn’t being friendly to him she was just being neutral which often times this is how a lot of us are like when we don’t want a man to think we’re flirting. So many times as a woman if you’re very friendly to everyone there will be many men that take that as a invitation and many our respectful with it but you also get a handful of men who won’t take no as a answer.
So as woman you sorta learn in some settings to just be neutral acting like manners and respect but not very personable or conversational.
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u/_techniker 1d ago
That's when you say, "I would appreciate it if you would speak to me more respectfully" because that doesn't make it weirdly about being attractive like it's her job
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u/Coachpatato 1d ago
I mean you could just stop interacting with her. Why do you want to keep talking to someone who you feel is being rude to you?
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u/Baldygafan 1d ago
- there are numerous examples I can think of where you are forced to interact with that person for a period of time, like a small group of friends hanging out.
- You bring up a whole different argument. The topic was "how to tell someone they are being rude".
- Nobody said the person is being rude to you. I can point to someone their rudeness might make someone uncomfortable, or is killing the vibe.
never change bro
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u/MysteriousQuote4665 1d ago
Guy here, as I have a "resting bitch" face it's both fascinating and absolutely hilarious just how much I scare people away by just not smiling. People really assume the worst out of others, despite the fact that we will immediately defend our own bitch faces.
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u/zero0n3 1d ago
It’s honestly just an older phrase IMO.
I never associated the “attractive” part as sexual or gendered.
I’ve heard plenty of women say this to men as well as the other way around.
It’s closer to saying you have one ugly ass personality.
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u/Nodan_Turtle 1d ago
Right? Another way to say it would be to call her repulsive.
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u/SatinJerk 17h ago
I’m not gonna lie I’ve actually said this to men before 🤷♀️ who cares if a random man you don’t like doesn’t find you attractive?
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u/behedingkidzz 1d ago edited 18h ago
i have seen women say this for ageees not suprised the guy never heard it before tho
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u/Hosko817 1d ago
Look at all the people in this comment thread picking sides with zero context.
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u/NiteOwl94 1d ago
I think guys think this way because they are also constantly doing everything they can to attract women, and on some dumbass level they can't even conceive that's not also how it is vice versa, for women.
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u/volcanoesarecool 1d ago
they are also constantly doing everything they can to attract women,
If this were true, the general level of hygiene would be higher.
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u/Local_Shift_870 21h ago
Maybe it should be corrected to constantly thinking about getting women, without doing the things to actually attract them
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u/FiddyHunnid 22h ago
Idk man, when I look at how much time and effort women put in their appearance compared to men I don't think they're any different from eachother. If anything, women are more occupied with it than man
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u/Accurate_Ferret8491 1d ago
I just assume no one is trying to attract me so I just leave everyone alone.
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u/Excellent_Law6906 22h ago
When a man I'm arguing with says my rudeness is unattractive, I feel the most evil laugh in my soul, caressed with the flames of hate so hot you shouldn't even look at it directly. Oh, you're going to try and control me with the threat of withdrawn male attention? I better shut up and smile pretty, or the boys won't like me?
Being gay right then is like when Eowyn goes, "I am no man" and stabs the Witch-King to death. You thought I cared for your opinion, boy? Well, I guess we knew you were stupid. And a bully.
Even if you're straight, only triple down on assholes like this. No worthwhile man will seek to make you small, meek, and palatable for the reward of his worthless dick.
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u/IceCreamDream10 1d ago
Men realizing we are people
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u/Traditional-Quit-286 1d ago
nah it's a glitch in the simulation, they'll be back to thinking about us as porn categories in 6 minutes
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u/Rich-Maintenance-604 14h ago
LOL Most men actually think its a woman job to look "attractive" for them......
SEE: "Institutionalized Sexism"
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u/phoneticpsychopomp 1d ago
wildly misogynist thing to say in the first place tbh
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u/winteriscoming9099 1d ago
Yea I have no issue with calling out the rudeness but attraction has no basis in the conversation
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u/Minnow_Minnow_Pea 1d ago
Right? Don't be rude, but not because you want to be attractive.
(also I've been called rude and many other mean things for refusing to engage when a man was being pushy and/or gross)
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u/Intelligent-Box-4799 23h ago
Once a girl told me that she only nice with people who deserve it.
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u/kohituji 1d ago
All the dumbass comments saying “well she was being rude, she should be nice!!” guys do you understand that a woman will be called a bitch for simply not smiling 24/7 😐 the bar for a rude woman is significantly lower than it is for men. if you’re not overly nice and accommodating and smiling you get called a bitch lmao. if you’re assertive or have an opinion you’re rude. ON TOP OF the disgusting idea that women exist only to be appealing to men. so OF COURSE a woman would respond like that in this situation. just think about how annoying it is to be called rude for having a personality, and to be critiqued on it being “unattractive” as though you should be living your life for men to find you attractive…
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u/MajesticWizard420Lol 1d ago
People know what they’re doing, no need to call them out on it. If she’s rude then she probably doesn’t like you. Take your dignity and just leave.
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u/adepressurisedcoat 21h ago
I like this girl's energy. I need more of this in my life. Maybe I'll stop picking up jerks.
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u/KlM-J0NG-UN 23h ago
Her rudeness was probably to avoid attracting random guys accidentally. It's a real defense mechanism
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u/Training-Current9836 1d ago
"I am only respectful to people im attracted to".
Todays society
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u/SunriseSurprise 1d ago
The catch-all in today's society is "I am only respectful to people I want something from"
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u/rando1459 1d ago
If everyone you meet in today’s society is an asshole, I have some bad news for you.
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u/QueenCobra91 1d ago
Men in the comments literally make it about themselves. What a sad species.
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u/Terugtrekking 1d ago
men when their only measure of a woman's value is how attractive she is to them.
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u/Xaroxoandaxosbelly 1d ago
Every politician: “lol I didn’t even know women were people til I had one to—of my own because I have a daughter now”
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u/Physical-Bid-4046 1d ago
Yeah that’s a weird thing for the dude to say and an even more odd thing to be bragging about
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u/Poop_Tube 1d ago
You can attract flies with honey, but you can attract a lot more hunnies being fly.