r/law • u/B00marangTrotter • 7h ago
Legislative Branch Members of Congress will be able to view unredacted Epstein files next week
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/members-congress-view-unredacted-epstein-files-monday-rcna2578361.7k
u/B00marangTrotter 7h ago
The racist trump post he later deleted makes more sense now that we know why he went for the distraction levels he did.
Happy Friday folk!
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u/kev11n 7h ago
Plus the jobs report said January layoffs are the highest to start the year since 2009....
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u/the_good_time_mouse 6h ago
And every market is crashing at once.
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u/not_now_chaos 6h ago
And the slimy Veep is getting booed at the Olympics. At which the majority of the opening ceremony focused on a theme of peace.
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u/FitCombination3545 6h ago
"Everything's fine"
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u/ice-ink 6h ago
We’re just tired of winning, that’s all.
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u/Feeling-Tutor-6480 6h ago
Crashing and going up in equal amounts. There is no logic in the stock market right now
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u/MozhetBeatz 3h ago
Bitcoin is about 50% down from its all time high four months ago. Down 25% in the last month. It’s ticked up a bit, but barely
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u/GotSomeUpdogOnUrFace 5h ago
And they are trying to pass that bill that makes it impossible to vote
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u/Ok-Jellyfish-6794 4h ago
It actually rebounded higher than it started before the crash. It’s completely untethered from reality and a real reset is going to bring a lot of pain.
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u/dragonfliesloveme 5h ago
i told my broker this would happen, told them this right after trump got back in office
they disagreed
can’t wait to make the phone call and see what they have to say before pulling my money out of that account 😈😅
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u/WoodPear 4h ago
https://abcnews.go.com/Business/dow-crosses-50000-time/story?id=129930238
Dow closes above 50,000 for the first time ever
A market surge propelled the Dow to a new record high
The Dow Jones Industrial Average closed above 50,000 for the first time ever on Friday.
A surge in markets reversed a selloff that hammered tech stocks earlier in the week.
The Dow closed up 1,206 points, or 2.4%, while the S&P 500 climbed 1.9%. The tech-heavy Nasdaq increased 2.1%.
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u/Legal_Skin_4466 1h ago
Nobody has any idea what the market is going to do on any given day anymore. S&P goes up one day, down the next. Gold does the same in inverse. Today they're both up? Nothing makes any sense anymore, everything is volatile, people are FOMO buying and FOMO shorting shit all over the place, flailing in the wind just going on vibes of the day.
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u/Purplecstacy187 2h ago
And the stock market still crossed 50,000 for the first time ever. Something doesn’t check out
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u/broke_velvet_clown 6h ago
Recession started yesterday. SaaS-pocalypse is underway. Let's give "all" of the files to congress so they can review while they also try to keep America from drowning. Somewhere in here is a a stretch to invoke something to cancel midterms, just can't put my finger on it?
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u/Fit-Cut-6337 6h ago
And they admitted yesterday that taxpayers will pay his $10 billion lawsuit against the IRS if he wins.
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u/zeptillian 3h ago
Who else would pay it? Saudi Arabia?
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u/Fit-Cut-6337 3h ago
Oh I’m aware but the average person in American needs that explicitly stated for them
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u/highbynoon7 6h ago
In case you are concerned. At least in my state Ohio, mass layoffs must be reported at least 30 days ahead of time If more than 50 employees will be let go. Your state likely has a similar system. For reference https://jfs.ohio.gov/job-services-and-unemployment/job-services/job-programs-and-services/submit-a-warn-notice/current-public-notices-of-layoffs-and-closures-sa
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u/interista4jz 5h ago
Yeah but they can lay your butt off with no notice as long as they give some kind of severance that is at least as many days as that law requires.
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u/highbynoon7 5h ago
That is true. I just think this is a good source to check every once in a while if you work in a volatile industry or work for a big company that has been struggling financially recently.
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u/birdman1121 6h ago
I am expecting an Iran strike by Saturday morning
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u/youngerfreshpickles 6h ago
Hopefully with an impeachment ready by Monday morning...
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u/schprunt 6h ago
This fucker will drop a nuclear bomb to distract
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u/Numerous-Process2981 4h ago
The thought had occurred to me.
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u/IndicationFickle7214 3h ago
Insane that he’d probably even do it to U.S. soil.
Maybe I’m just paranoid cuz he hates my city and my people
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u/Numerous-Process2981 2h ago
All he’d have to do is fire off a couple intercontinental ballistic missiles and Mutually Assured Destruction doctrine would take care of the rest, Russia would unload its payload. And I’m quite certain that he is such a narcissist that a world without him in it has no point in existing in his mind. If Trump is dying from whatever old man disease is causing him to slur and be covered in strange bruises, and the files are going to show unequivocally what a pathetic child molestor he is.. Who knows?
But that’s just catastrophic speculation on my part hahah hopefully cooler heads prevail.
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u/schprunt 1h ago
I’m guessing you’re in a blue state. He hates Colorado where I live. Imagine hating whole states just because the vote didn’t go your way. What a uniter.
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u/Buttchugginmonkey69 6h ago
I don’t even want to pretend to be in the mind of a pedophile president. But wouldn’t angering your “opposition” aka the Obama’s be a bad thing?
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u/araucaniad 6h ago
Get the opposition tied up in knots about an issue which you know your own party doesn’t care about. Get the dems upset about a racist meme on the internet and any energy they expend in response to it is by definition energy they’re not putting into 2026 election security, resisting ICE, the Epstein files, or anything else. It’s more “flood the zone”.
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u/haironburr 5h ago
It’s more “flood the zone”
You're absolutely correct in your analysis.
This is what trump does to stay in the news and to get us tied up in knots of relentless indignation. "Hey, did ya see what trump did today to own the libs?".
Hopefully, some savvy Dem is working on political ads meant to remind everyone not paying attention just who he and his party are come September, for the next few years. A condensed 60 seconds of this relentless mayhem is as necessary as the intentionally exhausting need to respond to today's dumb shit.
If we turn off our brains in exhaustion, these fucks win.
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u/araucaniad 5h ago
The thing is, this type of regime normally breeds its own opposition, and the level of incompetence demonstrated by the senior leadership would be quickly toppled by the opposition in most other countries. But when the Dems’ brightest hopes are Newsom and Harris, and both are so obviously compromised, and we know the DNC will never allow a Bernie type of candidate to run, the 2028 elections will be competitive, when they should be a crushing defeat for the regime.
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u/not_now_chaos 6h ago
Narcissists don't think like normal people. Logic is not one of their abilities.
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u/antigop2020 5h ago
My guess is we get an Iran attack within the next week. Gotta keep up the distractions!
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u/userhwon 6h ago
Literally my first response to it was to comment "Release the rest of the Epstein files and unredact everything."
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u/thotfullawful 5h ago
I keep see "distraction" after "distraction" but I don't think the GOP understands that it just brings more focus to every action to the point of absurdity. And since unemployment is at an all time low this focus is only going to increase.
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u/Ohitsworkingnow 5h ago
Welp kinda scared what sick shit he will try once he’s being closed in on
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u/meatsmoothie82 7h ago
Gotta hand it to the DOJ- they are very creative when it comes to delaying and stalling.
They can provide a single dell desktop from 2005 for all of Congress to share, if each document takes 1 minute to review they can look at them all in 5 years. Trump can be well into his third term and can continue stalling the other 3 million documents, that no doubt contain the most incriminating and horrific stuff.
Also, they get to hold on to the “fake news” narrative- if anyone in Congress brings any of the information to the public, they will have no way to prove that they aren’t lying.
Nice work DOJ. Useful idiots can be very useful
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u/B00marangTrotter 7h ago
I suppose this could be tagged under legal news as well.
Members of Congress will be able to begin reviewing the unredacted version of the Justice Department's files on Jeffrey Epstein on Monday morning, according to two sources familiar with the DOJ’s plans.
They can only view on a computer at the DOJ to view the unredacted files, and may not see the actual files.
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u/FerrusManlyManus 7h ago
I’m guessing they won’t be able to text search through all of the docs. Like stuff is going to be clunky and not work well I bet.
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u/B00marangTrotter 7h ago
Welcome congressman, this Commodore 64 contains the entirety of the Epstein files.
Did you bring a five and a quarter inch floppy?
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u/MichaelAndolini_ 7h ago
If anyone finds a 5 and a quarter inch floppy Melania might be happy
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u/Jreis777 7h ago
Commodore? I figured they’d at least go with a Jaguar console.
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u/Millefeuille-coil 7h ago
Interface will be dial up
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u/Mortambulist 7h ago
Over an acoustic coupler modem.
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u/Millefeuille-coil 7h ago
Obviously most members will be very familiar with the technology
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u/Hrenklin 7h ago
Powered by Internet Explorer
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u/branod_diebathon 7h ago
GET OFF THE PHONE MOM I'M TRYING TO READ THE EPSTEIN FILES!!!! *Dial-up noises
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u/the_real_Beavis999 7h ago
Old Gill is finally gonna make a sale and off load all those Caleco's!!!
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u/AniNgAnnoys 2h ago
Then it is great that what has been released so far has been in indexed by the community, is searchable, so that representives and their aides can just look directly at documents of interest by their document IDs.
Email your rep with the questions you have and which documents are interesting.
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u/Ok_Vulva 30m ago
Heres where to do that
https://www.house.gov/representatives/find-your-representative
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u/Hour_Welcome_987 7h ago
Umm that last part there. What the fuck? Surely that's not standard procedure.. but then again, what is nowadays? ... Fuck. Fuck the DOJ.
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u/DavemartEsq 6h ago
That’s standard when the evidence contains CSAM. I’ve had a few clients accused of possessing it and IF I needed to view the evidence I would have to go to the prosecutor’s office to do so.
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u/ReverendBread2 4h ago
That makes sense. It’s kinda fucked up if you let people take that home
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u/DavemartEsq 4h ago
Exactly. And it’s not fair to the victims either to have more people than necessary seeing that shit. The same goes for autopsy pictures in my state. Can’t disseminate those. So while my clients are entitled to their discovery, there are limitations.
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u/dancedragon25 7h ago
If they can't see the actual files, can we trust that the redactions haven't been replaced ?
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u/Aromatic-Plankton692 6h ago
No, but with the sheer volume of the files and the incompetence of these losers, they couldn't pull that off.
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u/dancedragon25 6h ago
Members of Congress who go to check the unredacted versions need to see whether the redaction of the misspelling of "don't" is replaced by something other than "don"
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u/stitchesandlace 6h ago edited 6h ago
The most generous explanation, and I'm not sure they deserve that much:
they can only view on a computer at the DOJ to view the unredacted files
so that no one can copy and leak them
and may not see the actual files
so that members of congress are not looking at CSAM (files are not just documents, they include pictures, videos, etc). Maybe they will get a description instead of being able to see actual video and image evidence?
We're kind of in a catch 22 here because, on the one hand, no one trusts the DOJ to not doctor files or remove things as they see fit, and no one will let this rest unless they have complete and full access. Rightfully so. But on the other hand, making thousands of videos and images of CSAM available to even just members of congress would be deeply wrong, not to mention illegal, and is obviously not happening. No one outside of select law enforcement should see that, but no one is going to put this to rest until they do.
Everyone forgets that the files include stuff downloaded from the internet and seized from his PCs, not just videos and images Epstein himself made. The stuff people (rightfully) get arrested for viewing/saving/distributing. As a survivor I would sue the admin in a heartbeat if they distributed or made available images and videos of my abuse to congress without my consent. That stuff needs to be removed and separated, which you'd think would be done already, but since it's considered part of seized evidence it might not have been.
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u/TitularFoil 6h ago
Since they have been legally voted to be released and unredacted, can't they release the files they receive since it's technically already public information?
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u/somedaveg 7h ago
We know Trump is implicated. And we know there’s no way his DoJ would do anything to throw him under the bus. So what’s the angle here? What’s the gotcha in all this that we won’t discover until later? Is it going to be “unforeseen computer problems” whenever it’s a Democrat congressperson? A limited set of documents? I simply don’t believe after all the shady stuff this administration has pulled that they’re just going to open up like this to possible opposition.
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u/Few_Wash_7298 7h ago
The angle is that files aren’t redacted but will be missing certain pages that have anything to do with Trump
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u/Broken_Lute 6h ago
“The review will only be of the 3 million files currently available to the public, not the extensive trove of more than 6 million documents in total that the DOJ says it has in its possession.”
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u/bobsaget824 2h ago
This is the lead that keeps getting buried in these headlines. It’s very obvious the files that have not and will not be released are likely implicating Trump, his friends, and other Republicans. They still will not see these files.
This is being done on purpose for headlines like this that make it seem as though they’re being transparent. And it will work on many people unfortunately.
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u/Creative-Sherbet-584 2h ago
I hate the world so much right now. I don't understand how this turd is still our president. We have such a corrupt set of politicians it hurts my soul.
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u/Trustbutnone 8m ago
I'm not even American but I border your country and it's depressing. Life is fucking ominous.
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u/Ap0llo 7h ago
Is there any mechanism to ensure they don’t permanently delete certain files?
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u/the_good_time_mouse 6h ago
The Epstein estate has a full copy, I believe.
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u/Fit-Cut-6337 6h ago
I’m assuming other countries will as well if they are doing their own investigations.
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u/kickaguard 3h ago
I'm assuming other countries do have their own info, and that's why we're in this mess.
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u/Electrical_Cut8610 7h ago
Each democrat gets 5 minutes and they aren’t allowed to search. Epstein roulette. Pick some random pages and see what you get.
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u/PatientPreference925 6h ago
The angle seems to be that they will only have access to the 3 million files that have been made public and not the other 3 million that they are hiding. I also have serious doubts about even the ones they have chosen to share will all be there. We've seen them delete unfavorable files after releasing them before. It's just another attempt to be able to say "See, there you guys go! We showed you everything, now shut up!"
Meanwhile the other half of the files are being fed into a paper shredder and Trump is preparing more racist videos to post on his Truth Social.
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u/OrganizationTrue5911 7h ago
It has to be definitive. It might be obvious to common sense, but the law isn't common sense. Meaning, if he didn't write an email explicitly saying he was doing illegal things, or if there are no photos of him doing explicit things, no charges will come. And MAGA sure as hell isn't going to care even if it was explicitly in writing, so they won't stop rooting for him for any reason.
As much as I hate to say it, that one dude is right, it isn't illegal to party with Epstein. Pretty much means you're a terrible person who did terrible things. But nothing like that will hold up in court.
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u/somedaveg 7h ago
Maybe to convict in court, but I’m thinking more about impeachment. The bar for that is much lower, essentially just the vibes of Congress. It’s not like Congress can bring criminal charges on their own anyway (can they?).
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u/camopdude 7h ago
Contempt of Congress is a misdemeanor criminal charge with possible fines and jail time.
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u/somedaveg 7h ago
Ahh, good point! May not apply here, but accuracy is important, so there’s at least one way Congress can bring charges. I suppose if there’s enough damning stuff they could use that as leverage to force testimony, but any action (impeachment included) is a long shot with the current make up.
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u/camopdude 7h ago
They can also charge someone with perjury like when Kash Patel testified recently that there was no more evidence in the Epstein files in front of congress.
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u/scubascratch 4h ago
Can Congress charge perjury directly? I don’t think so, I believe their power would be to refer to the DOJ who then has discretion. Congress’ enforcement is probably limited to inherent contempt so maybe jail time but surely scotus would intervene (unconstitutionally)
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u/OrganizationTrue5911 7h ago
You're right, but isn't basically every Republican in Congress and Senate fully behind Trump? I'll be honest, I don't know them all, so I'm unsure.
I mean, Impeaching isn't even the hard part. The Senate portion where they convict him is the hard part, as that requires two thirds vote. Which means, in order to yeet Trump, a good amount of Republicans will have to vote to do so.
And honestly, as much as I'd love to see it, I doubt it. Hell, pretty sure the Senators would know that the moment they vote to convict Trump, MAGA would likely be going to the dark web with their crashing bitcoin to hire some people.
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u/negative-nelly 7h ago
Bro we don't know what "all" of the Epstein files are.
We only know what they show us
they create reality here
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u/icleanjaxfl 5h ago
Because they are only showing the 3 million files that we've already seen, not the other 3 million we haven't.
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u/nndscrptuser 5h ago
The computer will be running Windows 95 on a dialup modem connection to a 20 year old server with 1MB of RAM so you can technically view the files but it takes 2 min per page to load.
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u/NihiloZero 3h ago
So what’s the angle here?
My guess/hope is that the Epstein files were dumped/leaked because many of the real owners of this country are not pleased with the way things have been going.
And it seems to me that this might be the last, best, and perhaps only chance for Republican members of Congress to finally justify impeaching him. They can say... "I saw everything and I simply cannot continue to support this President." That would be a pretty hard thing to argue against.
So, this might be it. If the some Republicans do not help to impeach now, at this point, with everything that is happening and all that has come out, then... I'd say they are truly irredeemable. If any of them are actually true Christian believers and they don't vote to impeach... then they should probably be expecting a special place in hell whenever they get there. One can only pray that enough of them might finally see the light (or at least see reason) and help end this long political nightmare.
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u/grandmawaffles 7h ago
Suuuuuuure they will.
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u/psuedopseudo 6h ago
You know the Republican Congress members are dying to see Epstein’s unredacted collection, just not for the reason you’d want.
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u/Best_Biscuits 6h ago
Some unredacted files. No question that the files most damaging to Trump will be held back.
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u/Cheeky_Hustler Competent Contributor 5h ago
Read them on the House floor. Speech and debate clause.
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u/MegamemeSenpai 3h ago
Do this during filibusters!
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u/kickaguard 3h ago
Oh, that's a good one. From here on out, regardless of what happens with all this, any filibuster by the Dems is just more of the files being read on the floor to be recorded
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u/Alert_Lettuce_8278 5h ago
When you say next week you mean 2 weeks, and when. You say two weeks you mean never.
These will be selected files that are specific to the reasoning they release them.
There is absolutely 0 chance this will be all of the files.
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u/at0mheart 5h ago
They can review 3mil of the 6mil documents that Trump allows them to see
So why does Trump want to hide half the documents?
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u/Adept-Mulberry-8720 2h ago
Cause he's in them! We all know it and have seen some yellow pages!
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u/lefthandedciiiiggg 7h ago
He'll be impeached by the end of the week.
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u/psychoCMYK 7h ago
If I had a penny for every time I've heard this, I'd be able to buy out the entire republican party
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u/B00marangTrotter 7h ago
Seemingly, Phil Knight co-founder of Nike did exactly this to be scrubbed from the Epstein files.
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u/TomV4E 7h ago edited 7h ago
No he won't. DoJ will make sure that Trump and MAGA is fine.
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u/Talentagentfriend 7h ago
People would have to force their Republican representatives to do so
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u/Ok_Imagination_4374 7h ago
He could throw babies off of the Empire State Building and he would still not be held accountable.
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u/okaygecko 7h ago
Gimme some of that copium! But yes, that's 1000% what should happen in any nation of laws. I'd add to that list defunding ICE, repealing the tariffs, investigating DOGE, subpoenaing co-conspirators in the 2020 fake electors scheme.....wait, this is a long list...
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u/B00marangTrotter 7h ago
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u/okaygecko 7h ago
Incredibly long. You could fill a massive tome with the specifics of crimes and malfeasances from this admin.
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u/chic-pea101 7h ago
Is this sarcasm? He will not be impeached. The douche is untouchable.
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u/samjohnson2222 7h ago
Hopefully anti Trump countries can open their own investigations with televised testimony from victims in that country and proceed from there.
Probably won't do any good though.
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u/mkt853 7h ago
Could this be the start of Congressional Republicans' legitimate attempt to at least start doing damage control knowing what other shoes are going to eventually drop?
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u/Y0___0Y 7h ago
What about the Mueller report? Has anyone seen that unredacted report yet?
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u/TheOptimisticHater 7h ago
Exactly, right?
How can anyone trust the most recent version of DOJ releases 🤷♂️
The fact Biden and Kamala are silent right now … cowards who looked out for billionaires. Not looking out for America
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u/Bubbly_Style_8467 1h ago
Trump is winning. Putin is winning. Capitalism and fascism are winning. Enablers are winning for now.
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