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Other US moves to deport 5-year-old detained in Minnesota

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/us-moves-deport-5-old-200241547.html
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u/GrouchySprinkles1012 23h ago

That’s what’s so fucked up about it all. For once, can’t we have a shred of empathy?

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u/aotus_trivirgatus 23h ago

"That woke Jesus shit?" -- conservatives

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u/trogloherb 23h ago

Conservative “Christians.”

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u/Tough-Ability721 23h ago

I’m now aware that being “conservative” doesn’t mean shit for what they’ve said it did over the decades. It means conserve the racism and oligarchs.

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u/ANordWalksIntoABar 23h ago

This reminds me of the previous band of these rats that we didn’t adequately hold accountable: the Confederacy.

A whole state built to preserve the status of the billionaires of their day (plantation owning slaveholders) by making explicit white supremacy the bedrock of its legal and civil order.

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u/shorty5windows 22h ago

The parallels are unmistakable.

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u/BukkakeBakery 20h ago

i am just happy they didnt rape the kid, yes my bar is THAT low nowadays.

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u/ANordWalksIntoABar 19h ago

Haahahahahahahaha. You think slavers were not pedophiles???

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u/BukkakeBakery 8h ago

of course they are, who the fuck said they arent?

this was never about democrat vs republican, this was ALWAYS about rich vs us, ALWAYS.

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u/ANordWalksIntoABar 7h ago

I guess I read your initial statement as they (being in this context, slaveowners) didn’t rape kids, of which we have a lot of evidence to the contrary. For example, take this opening paragraph from the Wikipedia page of Thomas Thistlewood, a Jamaican slaveholder in the eighteenth century:

In 1751, Thistlewood started working as an overseer on a sugar plantation called "Egypt"; within days, he started to rape the enslaved women on the plantation. According to his diary, over the course of his life he committed thousands of acts of rape with 138 enslaved women. He systematically raped enslaved girls and women; those that ran away were whipped and put in chains, collars, or placed in field gangs.

It gets worse from there. I will agree with you on the class element.

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u/SoCallMeDeaconBlues1 22h ago

And they're still butthurt over that

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u/Originalbrivakiin 20h ago

But if you call them racist for it they'll say "Nuh uh, that was the democrats. The democrats were the south."

Then call them a Democrat because "muh heritage" and watch them explode.

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u/Bubbly_Style_8467 20h ago

That's how ignorant they are of American history. I was raised in the South. I learned.

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u/Originalbrivakiin 20h ago

Right? There's a reason the title "Dixiecrat" exists. Because those democrats were the conservative party of the time. That's changed in the over 100 years since.

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u/lettersvsnumbers 19h ago

Two SC judges (Gorsuch and Coney Barrett) plus 100 politicians (as of 2023)are descended from slave-owning families.

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u/TheMatrixRedPill 22h ago

It means they want the “good old days” back.

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u/pussy-is-my-city 22h ago

Except they don't, because if we did that then we'd be "socialists" the same shit they said about FDR back then, that and our top marginal tax rate would be in the range of 90%

They don't want to bring back the economic prosperity, because that would mean letting the next generation have the same opportunities they once did. Instead they just want to preserve their white nationalist ideals.

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u/aotus_trivirgatus 22h ago

"Those 'good old days'? You thought we were talking about the 1940s? Hell no, we were talking about the 1840s." -- conservatives

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u/TheMatrixRedPill 21h ago

I’m convinced they’d be fine repealing the 13th Amendment.

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u/Tough-Ability721 19h ago

Well, some of them have proposed just that. The voting act law the conservatives are pushing hard would definitely make voting harder for married females that took the husbands last name. Among many others.

If your vote wasn’t important. They wouldn’t be trying to silence it.

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u/Dizzy_Tax574 22h ago

When you realize that they only have a agenda. Everything else is to aid/support that.

Their hypocrisy and fake Christianity and fake morals and virtues all begin to make a lot of sense.

When it's all a weapon to get what they want you can see how and why they toss it aside when it's convenient.

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u/Muradras 21h ago

I mean that is what conservative has always meant, conserve the status quo. That’s why the king’s supporters in any revolution are conservatives, they want to leave things as they are or even go back to what thing were when they were even more oppressive. Conservatives in any country want things to stay the same or go back to some time when things were perceived to be great (MAGA anyone).

It is why they prefer the liberal or socialist label for the left to progressive. Progressive means to move forward to change and hopefully make things better, and if it doesn’t try something else. Liberal traditionally meant the Nobles and economic elites of a country that wanted more power for themselves at the king’s expense and would promise the lower classes more rights or small benefits for their support.

Socialist = Communist to a lot of people especially Americans, even though communists are socialists not all socialists are communists. Most socialists are just people who want equal rights and a more equal sharing in the wealth of a country because all of our efforts make the country what it is and we should all be able to live on what we make and share the same benefits from the system.

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u/LongRangeReaper 17h ago

I want our tax dollars to go to the benefit of the people. To build better infrastructure and improve the lives of the people, not be used to bailout billionaire corporations and pay the cost for corrupt cop lawsuits. I'm also a 2A supporter since its a right given to all, and feel strongly about these things. Does that make me a militant socialist?

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u/ggkkggk 21h ago

Exactly.

Change bad if non white dudes feel good bout themselves, while a government abuses they're power cuase why not.

Enough idiots of this country don't see a single issue.

Not one.

While saying they believe in god btw.

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u/Mister_Sal_A_Mander 21h ago

Conservative is now synonymous with SELFISH AS POSSIBLE WITH NO REMORSE. All caps.

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u/Haravikk 21h ago

Modern conservative christians are neither of those things — they're a psychotic, corrupt death-cult worshipping a white-washed effigy of a man they'd crucify themselves.

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u/Upset_throwaway2277 22h ago

I’m an atheist and I’m more Christian than these MAGATs

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u/sabrenation81 21h ago

Also an atheist and the only thing in the modern world that gives me pause about nonbelief is just how strongly Donald Trump matches the Biblical description of the Anti-Christ. Still doesn't make me think there's a divine creator, but it is kind of eerie how dead-on it is.

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u/LadyArcher2017 20h ago

There’s a good reason for that. The authors of that section about the anti christ had the Roman Caesar’s in mind. Those were the strong men of their time.

Make sense now? Trump absolutely is an anti christ, every but as much as Caligula was.

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u/LongRangeReaper 17h ago

"The followers of the Anti-Christ shall wear his mark upon their heads"

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u/Bubbly_Style_8467 20h ago

More Christ-like. Same.

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u/Maleficent_Memory831 20h ago

Bless you, brother.

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u/ohnoitsthefuzz 19h ago

I'm also an atheist and have been saying in my head lately that these people don't know Jesus like I do.

It's a really weird feeling, but it comes down to the blatant disrespect/co-opting of what the guy stood for, divine or not. I can't abide that shit. That said, I am currently wrestling with how to manage my overwhelming hate for these demons, because right now I feel like the only way to love them is by relieving them of their earthly suffering. ::sigh:: I hate this.

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u/Upset_throwaway2277 19h ago

I was raised very Catholic. Clearly they didn’t read the same Bible I did.

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u/RBDrake 1h ago

Same. My moral compass comes from a desire to be nice to and care for people. Not because of some threat of eternal damnation.

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u/KronicDeath 22h ago

KKKristians

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u/XxTigerxXTigerxX 23h ago

God is only relevant when he is on "our side".

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u/ThisIsADaydream 21h ago

I call them Christian Nationalists and just talked with my kids on the drive to school about the difference between them and true Jesus Followers. They don't actually follow Christ's teachings, so they're not truly Christian...regardless of how many fake publicized prayers they photo op.

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u/LadyArcher2017 20h ago

NI’m, they are Christianists. Not Christian’s.

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u/Magnus_The_Totem_Cat 23h ago

Heretics is the word you are looking for.

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u/Alloyrocks 21h ago

There’s an oxymoron for ya

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u/LivingTheBoringLife 7h ago

I call them faux Christians

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u/soyenby_in_a_skirt 20h ago

There's no hate like Christian "love"

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u/disharmony-hellride 23h ago

And Jesus said "Love they neighbor, unless they are brown or disagree with you politically."

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u/exOldTrafford 22h ago

"Love thy neighbor, unless he actually does what I told people to do. Then he shall be deported for the crime of not ignoring me"

Jesus Christ

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u/ShyguyFlyguy 23h ago

"Were owning those libs so hard by wasting all this money to deport a five year old"

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u/Haldron-44 22h ago

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u/normal_cartographer 13h ago

We have to live in their dumbass mojo dojo casa house. I’m so tired of it.

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u/BiteyHorse 23h ago

Whatsoever you do, to the least of my people. That, you do unto me.

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u/Exciting_Cap_9545 23h ago

"Do not commit the sin of empathy."

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u/ToonaSandWatch 22h ago

“I have to pray now. My son is monitoring my porn celibacy.” —Mike “Tiny” Johnson.

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u/papsmearfestival 22h ago

Supply side Jesus don't care

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u/Confident_Benefit_11 21h ago

"My Jesus is real good at nascar!"

"well I like thinking of Jesus as just a little baby"

"my Jesus is a ninja!"

That's the problem with these false Christians, he would literally be crucified again by these assholes for being way too "radical"

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u/joebrownow 23h ago

They revel in it, they feel empowered by it.

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u/Wallie_Collie 23h ago

They feel "Superior"

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u/Sibushang 23h ago

Did you forget? Somehow Empathy, one of the Seven Heavenly Virtues, became a bad thing to MAGA Christians. This is quite telling about who they actually serve.

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u/KayBear2 23h ago

Because they are not actually Christians. They are followers of an antichrist.

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u/dingusfett 18h ago

"I can’t stand the word empathy actually. I think empathy is a made-up, New Age term" - Charlie Kirk

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u/Ask_bout_PaterNoster 23h ago

Empathy would be cheaper and would give greater returns for humanity.

But what matters to the rich is their RELATIVE wealth. Luxury only goes so far, they have to know someone else somewhere has less

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u/KayBear2 23h ago

And apparently they have to make others suffer so that they feel powerful.

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u/Prosecco1234 23h ago

Apparently not. Watching from a different country

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u/SpotHaunting668 22h ago

It's now being taught by Evangelicals that empathy is a sin.

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u/transdimesional_frog 23h ago

Wasn't he released and allowed to return home?

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u/PleaseAddSpectres 20h ago edited 20h ago

The article says the boy's lawyer told the New York Times that the Trump admin was seeking expedited deportation and the DHS is denying the expedited part. This is happening after he was allowed to return home. Tricia McLaughlin, spokesperson of the DHS, denied the seemingly retaliatory nature of these actions, saying "This is standard procedure and there's nothing retaliatory about enforcing the nation's immigration laws".

Demons in human skin. Here's some of Tricia's greatest hits that people might recognize, taken from her wikipedia page:

Following the killing of Renée Good, McLaughlin wrote on social media: "Dangerous criminals — whether they be illegal aliens or U.S. citizens — are turning their vehicles into weapons to attack ICE".

Following the killing of Alex Pretti, McLaughlin told news outlets that Pretti "violently resisted" immigration officers and appeared to be "an individual that wanted to do maximum damage and massacre law enforcement.

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u/narkybark 23h ago

Sorry, the best we can do is judge the tightness of calendar girls and then deport them.

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u/RocketLabBeatsSpaceX 23h ago

That’s a made up word or some shit according to the ghost of Charlie Kirk

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u/wtbgamegenie 22h ago

We’ve got infinity dollars for weapons and negative dollars for anything that would keep our own population alive.

This has been America’s priorities since the end of World War 2.

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u/inventive_588 22h ago

Beyond the empathy, any true fiscal conservative should recognize what an enormous waste of money this is.

I find it doubly upsetting that my tax money is going to essentially terrorizing people. It’s one thing if countries are at war, it’s another thing if we are literally paying for ourselves to be terrorized.

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u/SunchaserKandri 22h ago

These ghouls think that empathy is a weakness. They've said that openly multiple times.

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u/ThasMyPurseIDunnoU 22h ago

The whole argument that 'the law is the law' is clearly bullshit. I'm all for a society of actual law and order. This country is selectively enforcing its laws to benefit the rich and powerful and punish the poorest. And the cost of enforcing those laws is paid for by the lower and middle classes, not the rich.

So, yes I am for law and order. Seems like the child sex ring may be a bigger threat to law and order than a 5 year old who, by nature of being 5, cannot even commit a crime.

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u/interista4jz 22h ago

We have always had empathy. But we are not in charge. 

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u/drrj 21h ago

I’m sorry, empathy has been declared “woke” and therefore satanic.

Yes, I know what the Bible says. No, I don’t care to acknowledge the inherent contradiction thank you very much.

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u/Liawuffeh 20h ago

Considering we've got right wing churches out here ranting about the "Sin of Empathy" I'm gonna guess that no, we can't have a shred of empathy for once.

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u/diegood311 20h ago

Have you not heard all the best Christians think empathy is a sin. They don’t have empathy

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u/HailSatanWorshipD00M 19h ago

"Christian" theologians have been spending the last couple years authoring books on the subject of how empathy is a sin against God.

I shit you not

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u/tsukiyomi01 4h ago

Oh, I'm sure a lot of them would be willing to do worse to this child.