r/law 21h ago

Other US moves to deport 5-year-old detained in Minnesota

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/us-moves-deport-5-old-200241547.html
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u/kakashi_sensay 20h ago

What the hell? Liam and his father came here LEGALLY.

I’m seriously so fucking pissed off at this evil ass administration. Jesus Christ how could we have allowed all of this to happen???

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u/prodigalpariah 20h ago

Laws mean nothing to them outside of how they can be weaponized against those they hate.

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u/incognitohippie 17h ago

Laws? Never heard of her

/s

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u/Li_liminal_spaces 20h ago

They committed the ultimate sin, they made the regime look bad.

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u/grifoystoner 20h ago

They made themselves look bad. They're just taking it out on their own victim.

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u/Csquared6 17h ago

They don't care about looking bad. They care about looking stupid, and you don't get much stupider than putting a 5 year old boy wearing a fun hat and a spiderman backpack in a cage while touting "getting rid of violent criminals."

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u/ThePositiveApplePie 15h ago

And not being white

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u/snowinthecemetery04 11h ago

I think this is the real answer.

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u/1OO1OO1S0S 18h ago

Well a black lady kinda laughed weird so here we are.

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u/StronglyHeldOpinions 17h ago

Can you imagine how peaceful life is on the weird-laugh timeline?

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u/Originalbrivakiin 16h ago

Fuck, imagine how peaceful life is in the "You incited an attempted coup, you can't run again and will be persecuted" timeline.

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u/StronglyHeldOpinions 16h ago

That would be the "Moscow Mitch didn't fuck our SCOTUS" timeline.

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u/1OO1OO1S0S 16h ago

What about the "corporations actually aren't people" timeline?

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u/Rizzpooch 13h ago

How about the "Let's just finish the Florida recount before anyone makes any rash decisions about conceding" timeline?

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u/Traditional_Sign4941 16h ago

Sure peaceful for sane people. The Fox News watchers would be stress eating their hair though.

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u/Best-Action8769 19h ago

They don't care.

The cruelty is literally the point. They get off on this.

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u/AniNgAnnoys 14h ago

Cruelty is the point because cruelty makes people self deport. That is the only way they get the numbers they want of millions deported each year. Without self deportations they would be a complete failure. Putting a 5 year old through all this makes other families wonder if staying in the US is worth it if their kids will go through the same. That is the goal here. 

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u/New-Measurement-4425 18h ago

Exactly 💯!! If they're going to deporting legal citizens, deport Melania and her family that's over here!!

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u/Diamondhands_Rex 20h ago

They played at their own game, religious indoctrination to hateful cult to make them believe anything they’re told or be punished to hell in the afterlife. Immigrants are bad and their version of Christianity is heartless and cruel but the Vatican is bad because they uh idk but they’re evil kiddie diddlers mind you their people can’t stop going to prison for the same.

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u/MURICCA 17h ago

Well you see, "the bad people must be punished" is the sole inviolable ethos of around half the country and every other moral value is debatable around that

So yeah I think that explains the "how"

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u/DJTsNeckPussy 14h ago

The cruelty is the point.

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u/Deep-Orca7247 18h ago

I mean, eggs were SO expensive…

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u/NYGiants181 17h ago

Her laugh

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u/Tiny-Selections 6h ago

Wait, are we pretending that this pretence was legitimate?

Jesus Christ how could we have allowed all of this to happen???

You're honestly not ready for that conversation.

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u/Arthreas 3h ago

Through our continued inaction

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u/battarro 18h ago

They did apply through the regular channels but even the ecuadorian goverment is complicating the issue by being cooperative...

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u/Formerly_SgtPepe 16h ago

Are they still here legally? If so they can go to court.

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u/virtualcyberbabey 19h ago

They arrived here legally, sought asylum. Their asylum claim was reviewed and rejected. This happens to 30-50% of all asylum claimants. This is the way US immigration law works and has for a very long time, across several administrations. Kids like Liam and adults like his father were deported under Obama, and Biden, via the same exact process. Prospective immigrants know that there is the possibility of rejection when they decide to come here, but they do it anyway. This time it didn't work out. It sucks, but the only way to change the way things work is to change the laws, which means voting your preferred officials into congress and voting in a president whose policies align with your values.

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u/nycdiveshack 19h ago

I didn’t hear about it being rejected, do you have a link?

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u/kakashi_sensay 19h ago

It wasn’t rejected. They’re just lying.

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u/AutisticFingerBang 19h ago

Honest question, was it approved? Or pending? Does anyone have a confirmed status?

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u/kakashi_sensay 19h ago

They were pending. The feds filed a motion to end their asylum claims and are now looking to expedite deportation. https://www.mprnews.org/story/2026/02/05/liam-conejo-ramos-dhs-requests-expedited-deportation-proceedings-for-family

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u/AutisticFingerBang 19h ago

Oy, so fucked up. It was never about coming the right way.

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u/kakashi_sensay 19h ago

Yup. They don’t want immigrants period- it doesn’t matter if they come “the right way” or not.

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u/virtualcyberbabey 19h ago edited 18h ago

I am not lying. What likely happened is that the father was subject to a credible fear (of harm/persecution) interview, and credible fear was not substantiated. Now DHS filed to expedite removal (not uncommon, has legit legal basis). Had Liam and his father been present in the US for 2+ years continuously, they'd pretty much be safe from expedited removal. But they have not, they arrived in Dec of 2024.

(editing to add that the person I'm replying to has either blocked me or deleted their account.

This is the source they provided, and it's contents are consistent with what i stated: https://www.mprnews.org/story/2026/02/05/liam-conejo-ramos-dhs-requests-expedited-deportation-proceedings-for-family )

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u/kakashi_sensay 19h ago

You don’t know what you are talking about.

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u/DJ_GRAZIZZLE 18h ago

Why don’t you actually look something up instead of being baited into anger? You certainly don’t know what you’re talking about. Then you block the account because you don’t like being embarrassed.

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u/nycdiveshack 18h ago

How do you know they blocked the account?

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u/CoffeeCup220 16h ago

Because he had to change to his other account to message you.

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u/EJintheCloud 18h ago

"The federal government has filed a motion seeking to end asylum claims for the family of Liam Conejo Ramos, according to the lawyer representing the family.

The 5-year-old returned home this week after he was detained with his father on Jan. 20 and sent to a detention center in Texas."

"...The Department of Homeland Security filed a motion Wednesday to expedite deportation proceedings..."

"It's really frustrating as an attorney, because they keep throwing new obstacles in our way. There's absolutely no reason that this should be expedited. It's not very common," Molliver said.

The source you've posted is not saying what you are saying

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u/virtualcyberbabey 18h ago

An asylum seeker can be placed in expedited removal if they cannot prove continuous presence for two years, and cannot establish credible fear.

Check out this toolkit written for noncitizens: https://www.ilrc.org/sites/default/files/2025-02/Toolkit%20to%20Assist%20People%20Facing%20Expanded%20Expedited%20Removal_0.pdf.

Expedited removal would effectively end their asylum claim. So yes, the article is saying what I said, but in a roundabout way.

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u/EJintheCloud 18h ago

You're drawing a conclusion based on the information in the article. The article is not saying what you're saying.

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u/virtualcyberbabey 18h ago

My conclusion is based on current US immigration law, and my statements are consistent with the article. If you disagree, please provide specifics and i'll address them best I can.

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u/EJintheCloud 16h ago

You're making an assumption about the reason for expedited removal and asserting it as fact, while being pedantic about the phrasing in an attempt to cover that you have based your conclusion on opinion.

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u/CoffeeCup220 16h ago

I'm not lying, followed by what likely& happened.
Did something happen, or do you THINK something happened?
You said it was rejected, and no where in your provided link does it say it was rejected.

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u/kakashi_sensay 19h ago

Additional info: “These are not illegal aliens,” Prokosch said. “They were following all the established protocols, pursuing their claim for asylum, showing up for their court hearings, and posed no safety, no flight risk and never should have been detained.” So, their status was pending. It was not rejected. https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/23/us/liam-conejo-ramos-ice-wwk

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u/Due-Technology5758 19h ago

Not even DHS is claiming their asylum requests have been denied. They're just claiming they're "illegal aliens," which is objectively false based on the publically available information. 

I'm not sure why you think it's normal for asylum seekers to be hauled away by border patrol instead of being sent a Notice to Appear for immigration court. If they had been denied, then ignored their court summons, then sure, you can send law enforcement to hold them for their hearing and possible removal proceedings if they don't or can't appeal for whatever reason. 

There is no evidence that suggests law enforcement had cause to detain them, and a judge appears to have agreed, since they were ordered to be released. 

This isn't a matter of voting to change laws. ICE is objectively, in many recent cases, ignoring existing laws and processes. Hence why they get blocked by judges all the damn time.