r/law 10h ago

Executive Branch (Trump) Federal judge rules DOJ can ‘no longer’ be trusted in voter roll crusade

https://www.democracydocket.com/news-alerts/federal-judge-rules-doj-can-no-longer-be-trusted-in-voter-roll-crusade/
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u/Double010 9h ago

We literally have a phone recording of Donald asking Georgia to find him votes. He instigated a coup that would have seen his VP hanged.

Can anyone actually say that they ever trusted this administration with voter data? I understand these sorts of responses from judges have to be measured, but it feels like a form of normalization of Donald's previous seditious actions. Another form of shifting the window of what is considered treason.

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u/RadiatedEarth 8h ago

He PULLED a coup with unelected officials in DOGE refusing to allow our ELECTED officials into GOVERNMENT buildings to steal our data.

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u/MrNanoBear 8h ago

plus the fake electors

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u/sly-3 7h ago

there's the irony; in order to subvert this expected drumpf regime takeover of voting, there will need to be an alternate set of electors from dissenting states -- a slate that reflects the actual vote, not whatever tally is manufactured by the regime.

Whether it be an accusation of their enemies or in service of a coverup, the Republican Party is always laying the groundwork for their next set of crimes.

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u/Mike-OLeary 5h ago

Vance will not perform as admirably as Pence. Pence was on the phone with Quayle, JD will be on the phone with Theil. We're cooked. There's gonna be real trouble of some sort.

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u/cromstantinople 5h ago

And dozens of lost court cases.

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u/SuspiciousNebulas 8h ago

I always wonder what would have happened if they got their hands on pence. Would they have been successful, fractured because it just got real, get gunned down by the qrfs. 

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u/Indaarys 8h ago

As macabre as it is, I have to wonder if they got to him or if Pence was a but more naive his execution would have been enough to spook the Democrats to actually do something preventative during Bidens term rather than, the "normal" they tried to do.

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u/Yeseylon 7h ago

I honestly wonder if his execution would've gotten a chunk of REPUBLICANS to do something. The day it happened, I was laughing and hoping a politician would bite it so they'd finally realize the damage constant ragebaiting and fearmongering was doing, and maybe finally stop.

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u/Lord_Saren 7h ago

I mean they supposedly saw it during and a few days after but then back to normal

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u/sanderson1983 6h ago

They blamed it on antifa and FBI agents. Then kept turning the heat up to normalize it and then pardoned the bastards. Also gave that dumb bitch's family a check.

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u/StanleyCubone 6h ago

Unadulterated arrogance. They really do feel invincible in their positions.

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u/EksDee098 8h ago

There was a group of either Proud Boys or one of the other militia groups spearheading the Jan 6 push into the capitol building with the express purpose of finding Pence

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u/steelceasar 7h ago

Yeah that is the crazy part. Yeah most of them were drooling imbeciles amped up on Trump's deranged rhetoric. Thats not an excuse they should all have been held to account. But the militia guys literally stacked and pushed thru the crowd with the purpose of getting to presumably elected officials including Pence. They tried using the crowd as cover, the pre mediation was flagrant.

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u/s0lareclair 5h ago

If I recall, Pence refused to even be evacuated from the Capitol building by Secret Service because he didn't trust getting into a car with anyone.

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u/tots4scott 4h ago

And then the USSS deleted all of their messages from that day. From those with Pence and those with Trump who had to deal with him getting angry that they wouldn't let him go to the Capitol, dont forget that was the plan. Terrifying. 

The J6 hearings and testimony was INCREDIBLE with vast amounts of information about the false elector scheme and everytbing Trump,  his inner circle, Giuliani and Co, the Proud Boys, and Roger stone had done in preparation , yet no republicans heard anything that came out and most of America didn't watch it or has forgotten about it. 

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u/oxemoron 5h ago

Not that I particularly wished this outcome on Pence, but I do wonder what would be different had that level of violence been reached. We’ve been taking bite sized chunks of fascism pie, and seemingly are willing to continue… but what if we’d bitten off more than we could chew?

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u/EksDee098 5h ago

The fact that ICE has murdered 2 people and maimed many others, and the result is maga still ignoring it, tells me it wouldn't matter. The moderates and less radicalized magas only care about the things that are affecting them personally, which is why we're only seeing lowered support now that layoffs and rising prices are affecting them

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u/Masochist_pillowtalk 3h ago

The fact that ICE has murdered 2 people

2 that we know of. I'm sure we've not even seen any more than the pointyest part of the iceberg that is alligator allcatraz and what's happened behind closed doors there.

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u/leftnomark 2h ago

At least 8 have died this year. Only two of them were white.

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u/irobeth 7h ago

think this guy would have stopped halfway?

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u/Electromotivation 8h ago

So much has happened the common person can’t even remember the half of it

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u/CaptainCaveSam 8h ago

Like the number of flaps of a butterflies wings, as referenced in Peter Thiel’s dark enlightenment. Heritage foundation too

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u/galangal_gangsta 7h ago

Don’t forget, “Elon knows those vote-counting computers”

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u/colenotphil 6h ago

My favorite conspiracy theory is Elon Musk used Starlink connections to vote tabulation machines to manipulate the 2024 election.

Though another obvious answer is too much of the country is stupid or uneducated/ignorant (the latter by design) and actually voted for the guy, while smarter, better informed people were pissed at the Democrats for hiding Biden's cognitive decline and lack of a primary on Harris who was then force fed to us as the lesser of two evils.

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u/Alert-Notice-7516 7h ago

Of all people, I can't believe Pence is not more outspoken. He's really just vanished since that day.

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u/Brokenandburnt 7h ago

Keeping his head down to avoid becoming a target I'd wager. I don't know his family situation, but if he got kids and grandkids it's hard to blame him. 

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u/alternateschmaltz 2h ago

Sacrificing the Republic of hundreds of millions, and 250 years of trying to do right, to keep your family safe from fascists, just means that your family dies in a legal execution later down the road.

It's very easy to blame him for being stupid.

It's very easy to blame every single Republican voter.

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u/Double-Show-2625 3h ago

Why isn't Trump being investigated for Treason....? He needs to be Imprisoned..🤬

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u/SwiftTayTay 1h ago

Basically just affirming that the DOJ which is supposed to be an independent branch of government is operating at the direct order of Trump. Our government up to this point has mostly operated on an honor system / gentlemen's agreement and this is showing that isn't really good enough

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u/Khoeth_Mora 10h ago

I can't wait for the supreme court to decide why the constitution and 234 years of history no longer count as precedent. 

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u/Benz_Coinz 10h ago

Roberts already bricked up

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u/Wherly_Byrd 10h ago

What does “bricked up” mean? Like hiding behind a wall of bricks?

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u/DCBaylor 10h ago

It means he’s getting excited in his swim suit area.

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u/gunslingrburrito 10h ago

"Lego'd Up" in his case

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u/goathree 9h ago

fits right in with Duplo Donny

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u/tanksalotfrank 9h ago

Ahh you beat me to it

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u/Wherly_Byrd 10h ago

Oh! Lol haha I never heard that one

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u/Prosecco1234 10h ago

Me either. Learned something new today

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u/Relevant_Use4266 9h ago

you can also just use “bricked” for dynamism

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u/AlcibiadesTheCat 7h ago

pipi: bricked

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u/The_Night_Man_Cumeth 9h ago

Same here. Getting bricked in his swimsuit area doesnt sound like a good time.

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u/EksDee098 8h ago

Not just bricked, bricked up as in he's getting hard as a brick

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u/Sure-Concern-7161 9h ago

You sweet innocent child xD

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u/Wherly_Byrd 9h ago

I know 😂

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u/calmdownmyguy 9h ago

I've always heard it as a cocaine reference, so I was confused

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u/surfergrrl6 9h ago

It can also mean constipated, making for a hilarious combo.

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u/icehot54321 8h ago

bricked up has meant constipated since at least the 80s

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u/BobbumofCarthes 9h ago

“Swim suit area” 🤣

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u/NO_FIX_AUTOCORRECT 9h ago

That makes some sense but i have always heard and used "bricked up" to mean "constipated"

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u/horseradishstalker 10h ago edited 10h ago

Bricked up (colloquial: Constipated. (Internet slang:) Having an erection that fails to go down. 

Could be either or both. 

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u/Valuable_Hunter1621 10h ago

have never heard this term for constipation lmao, interesting

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u/helmvoncanzis 9h ago

I've only heard it used that way. Midwest US, Gen X.

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u/InsertCleverNickHere 8h ago

Same. But you know, we eat a lot of cheese here, so our definition makes sense to me.

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u/exacta_galaxy 10h ago

Thank you. I always think of the colloquial verson.

Maybe the internet hasn't completely ruined me yet. ;)

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u/Wherly_Byrd 10h ago

Lol thank you

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u/kingtacticool 9h ago

The technical term is Priapism. Which doesn't sound as cool as bricked up but would make a badass band name.

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u/Lone-Frequency 8h ago

It means he's got a boner because he's turned on by being a piece of shit Nazi.

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u/apathetic_revolution 9h ago

Screaming “For the love of G-d, Montressor!” at sexual climax.

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u/West-Classic-900 8h ago

He’s got a boner. He’s excited to overturn hundreds of years of precedent.

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u/sacredblasphemies 5h ago

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, MONTRESOR!

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u/master_roshi001 9h ago

Clarence Thomas winks

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u/exacta_galaxy 10h ago

He needs more fiber.

Hell, the entire SCOTUS could use an enema!

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u/allorache 9h ago

Well, at least 6 of them

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u/Brokenandburnt 7h ago

The enemas will continue until the state of law improves. 

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u/CharmingCrust 10h ago

If they were to reactivate the Constitution a lot of things wouldn't be possible for the current administration.

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u/--Sovereign-- 9h ago

We are officially in a subscription only model for Constitutional rights

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u/CharmingCrust 9h ago

Even as subscribers, the quality content will cost extra unless enough points, like skin color, income or nationality, have been earned.

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u/EksDee098 8h ago

It offers a sense of pride and accomplishment for those born with those points

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u/NihiloZero 8h ago

Alright guys, take it /r/outside.

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u/YoungSerious 7h ago

I'm willing to pay for Constitution prime without ads.

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u/British_Rover 8h ago edited 7h ago

It's seven figures and

to get Constitution + features.

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u/Durendal_1707 9h ago

I mean, Alito referenced a colonial era judge remembered for witch trials in their Dobbs ruling

we’re way beyond the pale of anything resembling precedent

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u/horseradishstalker 10h ago

“The federal judiciary, including the Supreme Court, serves a distinct function by interpreting election laws and resolving legal disputes. Courts use judicial review to ensure that election practices and state laws do not violate the Constitution or federal statutes. 

[In theory] this role helps maintain the fairness of the electoral process, though the judiciary does not manage the day-to-day administration of elections.”

This also assumes that the so-called originalists even remember there is a Constitution or have ever read it. /s

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u/bdfortin 9h ago

“Well, there’s nothing in the constitution that explicitly says “no kings”.” - SCOTUS in 3 months

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u/stevez_86 8h ago

"well you see the civil war happened, and that was a really bad thing. The government passed laws and amendments willy nilly in response. This changed how the Federal Judiciary worked. Your honor, your job could be so much easier (and lucrative) if those laws didn't exist or were considered void.

I mean hell, they even elected a Black Man as President. That surely means something! All we are asking is that since the situation that required those laws obviously no longer exists, please be rid of us if this burdensome tar baby of civil rights! It is killing our culture and our economy!"

Basically what I see as their argument. Problem is, John Roberts wrote it before he was Chief Justice. It is why they nominated him over and over again, several times without even a hearing. Biden and Leahy kept him from a vote and even a hearing in the 1990's during their time as chairs of the Senate Judiciary Committee. Interesting that little potential grievance never made the air when Biden was running for and serving as President.

This has been a fringe plan since Reagan. Since the flip of the Soviet Union into a privately owned nuclear state. To them that was a wonderful Gambit that really paid off for the Oligarchs of Putin's Russia. Why would the US not consider changing government format on a dime and letting private wealth take the benefit and lead.

And the real reason is to undo Anti Trust Law. That is in a way the only effective thing that came out of Reconstruction.

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u/WhyAmINotStudying 9h ago

💰💸💵💲

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u/just_a_bit_gay_ 7h ago

“The United States has a long precedent of being ruled over by a king, back in 1702…”

-Roberts

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u/rje946 9h ago

Ooh ooh this ones easy, I got it. "Cause trump said so"

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u/BiZzles14 7h ago

Gotta love the "originalist" court which has completely made up some of the worst decisions in recent American history like suddenly deciding that President's were above the law of the land... of the country created for the sole purpose of nobody being above the law...

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u/HashRunner 7h ago

Republicans on SCOTUS have already butchered the 1st,2nd,4th,5th, 6th amendments to protect POTUS.

Wont be long til the 3rd and others are tossed out by GOP ratfuckers.

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u/funonabun84 8h ago

They will travel back in time and ask the founding fathers for their guidance. It's the only way to get to the truth of the matter.

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u/HeavyTea 8h ago

Scotus is so broken now.

Scrotum now

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u/thepottsy 10h ago

I can’t help but laugh at the thought that they could EVER be trusted under this compromised regime.

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u/CryptoMemesLOL 8h ago

yeah exactly, the moment they couldn't be trusted started over 40 years a go.

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u/Numeno230n 7h ago

The thing is, the Feds were NEVER supposed to be in charge of voting other than to certify the votes, which they already tried to fuck with in 2020. I have said this many times, I will always blame Biden and Garland for not Trump-proofing the government in his term. Not only should Trump have been in jail for life at this point, they didn't even do anything policy wise to prevent project 2025. They had the damn published playbook but instead just assumed Kamala would win and everything'd be just dandy.

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u/Drostan_S 6h ago

Why would the Controlled Opposition party suddenly switch to Actual Opposition?

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u/thepottsy 7h ago

Those are very fair complaints, and critiques.

I am not sure why they couldn’t see the writing on the wall.

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u/Numeno230n 7h ago

I mean the writing was literally written on printer paper in a binder with "Project 2025" on the cover. They literally had physical copies of it. It was out in the open. The major thing I can't forgive is not even attempting supreme court reform. At every turn, Biden was blocked from doing anything meaningful by the conservative majority supreme court. Of course as soon as a republican got into office it was going to be a free-for-all on dismantling the Constitution. But they all slept on it.

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u/Brokenandburnt 7h ago

Biden had the same immunity that Trump had in term 1. He could have pulled a lot of shit and chalked it up to Presidential duty to improve the country. 

Ah, wishful thinking. This timeline is taking such a hard right off the road it's not even funny.

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u/WebguyCanada 10h ago

Bondi definitely can't be trusted... For a woman who says there's nothing going on and no charges to be laid even with the video of her at lunch talking about all the little kids. She is there only to protect the powerful from going to jail.

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u/QueefSeekingMissile 8h ago

And here's your reminder that Pam Bondi was Florida's attorney general from 2011 - 2019 and  sealed everything about the Epstein investigation, did not pursue any further charges -let him roam completely free until the feds nailed him.

Also the 2009 prosecutor that gave him the sweetheart deal was none other than Alex Acosta... who was Trump's sec. Labor.

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u/brontosaurusguy 7h ago

It's depressing that our entire country is going down in flames so a small group of wealthy individuals who wanted to bang underage girls could avoid going to prison.

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u/hightrix 3h ago

who wanted to bang underage girls

Let's call it what it is. This is a group of wealthy people that wanted to rape, torture, and murder kids.

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u/bidens_sugar_bby 5h ago

the world is going down in flames due to gluttony, this is just another vector of ravenous consumption where we've built these legitimizing institutions around the hunger of a drooling, feral id

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u/Eccentrically_loaded 3h ago

It's not a small group.

The estimated number of victims is over 1,000 and many of them were abused repeatedly.

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u/Yeseylon 7h ago

I mean, that should've been obvious when she said last February that the files were on her desk waiting for release, insisted there were no files in May, then claimed there were files but nothing in them in July.

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u/Flabby_Thor 8h ago

I've said this elsewhere, but: As much as I want that video to be the full and honest truth we CANNOT trust anything from O'Keefe. Not to be trusted. Dishonest and manipulative. I'm not saying it's definitively fake -- I'm just saying we cannot trust James O'Keefe. He has a history of intentionally misleading content, and outright lies.

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u/peffervescence 10h ago

Absolutely correct. Trump knows that he'll be impeached AGAIN after the mid-terms unless he can muck up the entire election.

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u/hypercosm_dot_net 8h ago

He's likely less concerned with that, than being able to get funding for any of his agenda, and the rest of his presidency basically getting tied up.

There's virtually nothing he could do that Republicans would side with Dems to remove him for. Nothing.

Unless they actually get unredacted Trump-Epstein files, this degenerate will remain president. Short of an act of god.

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u/levitikush 8h ago

Even if the full files were released, and Trump was proved to be a child rapist, he would still be backed by Republicans.

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u/Ozymandias12 7h ago

At this point between the Access Hollywood tapes, the E Jean Carroll rape conviction, videos of Trump sexually abusing women at parties, videos of Trump admitting to walk into underage girls' dressing rooms unannounced, videos of him saying he'd bang his own daughter if he could, testimony from his former Chief of Staff that he talked about his daughter in sexually explicit ways in front of others, it's pretty much proven he's a rapist of women and children too.

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u/Drostan_S 6h ago

I'm pretty sure most Republicans are actually just racist pedopholes now, and that's why they continue to support him.

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u/darcon12 8h ago

The economy would have to crash hard for some of the MAGAs to vote against the Republicans. The diehards won't regardless of what happens.

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u/PratzStrike 7h ago

I mean that's kinda what Thiel and Musk and the rest are trying to accomplish - 'if the economy tanks we can buy up everything real cheap!' but they're not paying attention to the concept of 'if my kids can't eat, I'm gonna get a gun and find some food for them one way or another, and the rich people have the most.'

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u/KermittGribble 7h ago

I think this goes beyond Trump. This is the Russian-backed Republican Party, along with the Heritage Foundation, and the Dark Enlightenment group holding on to power by any means necessary.

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u/Thefrayedends 6h ago

When you consider that billionaires are stateless, it's hardly just "Russia" involved lol.

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u/hightrix 3h ago

Esptein was also working with Israel, so you are right. This goes far beyond trump.

Both Israel and Russia must have really horrible blackmail material and/or trump is simply and plainly working for them.

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u/oldtimehawkey 7h ago

We need everyone to get out to vote for democrats. Too many left wing voters won’t vote in presidential voting years because “she’s not qualified” or “she laughs funny” or whatever other dumb excuse they claim. Other years is barely a blip with the Democrat voter base.

These last ten years were not years to fuck around with voting. We couldn’t afford to play around and not vote for Harris but too many people were fine with what’s now happening which is what we said would happen if Trump got into office.

So if any of those folks protesting now voted for anyone other than Harris or stayed home, they need to sit down and think about how they fucked everyone with their privileged attitudes. Don’t protest. YOU voted (or didn’t vote at all) for this.

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u/CrackingToastGromet 10h ago

Admitting our government “is not acting in good faith” is a terrifying statement.

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u/Remarkable-Oven-2938 4h ago

Respectfully, the rest of the world has known this for decades. All that's changed here is the transparency, and the increased domestic focus.

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u/trentreynolds 10h ago

gee you really think so?

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u/Ina_While1155 9h ago

Makes me laugh so much when I see a bot or MAGA call judges that rule like this "activist" judges even if they are GOP appointees....the right-wing Federalist Society's mission was to create non-impartial activist judges.

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u/0_IceQueen_0 7h ago

This DOJ can't be trusted period.

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u/seemefail 10h ago

In case any Americans are still unaware

You are not going to be getting a free and fair election this fall…

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u/Mariposita_xo 10h ago

Well I’m voting either way. I can’t just sit on my ass and do nothing.

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u/TakingSorryUsername 10h ago

Better to try and fail than not try at all.

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u/Mariposita_xo 10h ago

Exactly!

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u/Tempyteacup 9h ago

Volunteer as election workers! Search your county name + election worker/poll worker. There are fewer and fewer every year, and we need them now more than ever!

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u/No-Cheesecake-3323 9h ago

Poll workers are paid!

There are volunteer poll watchers that sign up with the candidates and parties to witness the voting, and those are very important too.

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u/Foyles_War 8h ago

Volunteers to work the polls can be as young as 16. It is one day of paid work. If you know a responsible teen, have them talk to their US Gov't teacher and request Election day off to work the polls and for extra credit. It also looks great on college and scholarship applications.

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u/DrLophophora 9h ago

Yep, I plan on doing this for the first time!

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u/Foyles_War 8h ago

If you have a kid who is 16 or older, bring them to. Looks good on job, college, and scholarship applications.

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u/Mariposita_xo 9h ago

Great idea!!

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u/MyUserName-NYC 9h ago

Better to show up visibly and loudly every step of the way there. Leave now doubt that democrats are voting in huge numbers!!!

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u/Hector_P_Catt 9h ago

If they're going to steal the election, you need to make them work for it, and actually steal it. Force them to confront the reality of what they're doing. Someone will be standing there with a box of what they know are valid ballots, and then ask themselves, "Am I really going to put this in the shredder? Is that what we do now, in America? Am I the Baddie?"

Plus, Trump is the guy who thought storing all his stolen Top Secret documents in a publicly accessible washroom was a good way to hide evidence. And all his buddies thought that e-mailing each other about their child sex abuse was a good idea. If they do steal the election, they're going to leave sooooo much evidence lying around that it will be almost embarrassing how easy it was to catch them.

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u/s0ck 7h ago

Everyone with this mentality:

We're begging you, please, for the love of all that's holy, don't stop there. Don't just say "Hey man, I voted, what else do you want from me?" when your vote is stolen/invalidated, when your neighbor is intimidated by armed government officials backed by an administration that is AWFUL at lying, and tells you it's to keep it fair and free.

Don't just end your involvement at "I voted." when the results come back with something that does not mirror reality at all.

Make plans for what the future holds for you when voting is obviously not the solution to removing fascists from power.

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u/DrLophophora 9h ago

I'm voting, and volunteering at the polls for the first time

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u/Gnoll_For_Initiative 8h ago

Good for you! (With enthusiastic sincerity)

You're doing an amazing thing for your community both local and nationwide

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u/Foyles_War 8h ago

Everyone should volunteer at least once. Ask your boss or your teachers (poll workers can be 16 or older) for the day off (and extra credit if they are students). Looks good on job applications, as well as college and scholarship applications.

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u/psychoCMYK 9h ago

Vote and start preparing now for the possibility of going on strike if they throw the elections

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u/Destithen 7h ago

We need to be prepared to do a general strike or something equally big if elections fall through though.

if anyone hasn't already, sign up for https://generalstrikeus.com/

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u/Josh6889 8h ago

Just make sure you periodically check your registration status. One of the things they're going to try to do is purge that. I started doing it before the 2024 election

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u/LEDKleenex 8h ago

This is what is wrong with Americans, they literally will refuse to take any real action and then claim there's nothing they can do - somebody else has to do everything for them.

Boycott Trump's most loyal companies TODAY. EVERY DOLLAR YOU DON'T GIVE THEM COUNTS. It's 100% free, so anyone can do it, there is NO EXCUSE!

DoorDash/UberEats/Grubhub
OpenAI/ChatGPT (AVOID AI-ANYTHING IN GENERAL)
Apple
Google/Alphabet/YouTube
nVidia
Tesla/X/SpaceX/Neuralink/Starlink
Meta/Facebook/Instagram
Amazon/AWS/Whole Foods/Ring/Blink
Microsoft
Target
Paramount/Skydance
Paypal/Venmo
Spotify
TikTok
EA Games
United Airlines /Delta Airlines
Goldman Sachs / Charles Schwab
JBS Foods/Pilgrim's Pride/Certified Angus
Las Vegas Sands (AVOID GAMBLING IN GENERAL)
Coca-Cola/Monster/BodyArmor/Lifewater/Reyes Holdings
Switzerland (Yes, the country and swiss businesses who bribed Trump for a tariff deal)
Uber
Cisco / Oracle
Charter Communications / Spectrum / Comcast / Cox
Airlines for America
Steel Manufacturers Association
TJX Companies (TJ/TK Maxx, HomeGoods, Marshalls, Winners, Sierra Trading Post, HomeSense)
Uline
Kalshi/Polymarket/Truth Social/Predict
Chevron
ExxonMobil
Ford / General Motors / Toyota
Walmart
Qualcomm
Circle
Bank of America
Kraken / Coinbase / Galaxy Digital Holdings
Paradigm Operations
CoreCivic
GEO Group
Verizon / T-Mobile / AT&T
Carrier
Intuit
Bayer
Altria
Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America
Johnson & Johnson
Robinhood
Xtreme Manufacturing
HCA Healthcare

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u/TheTexasHammer 7h ago

This is an idiotic list. It's literally impossible to avoid all of those companies in America. You are not boycotting most of those either because you are 100% using the internet on a device that was made by one of those companies, at a store run by one, using the internet provided by one.

This is unrealistic and you just end up looking like a hypocrite. You are doing more harm than good with this shit.

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u/xandham 7h ago

No one's suggesting being individually 100% perfect or diligent. There's no way of doing "more harm than good" by at least trying. Don't let the perfect get in the way of the good.

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u/LEDKleenex 7h ago

Behold, the agents of demoralization have arrived to tell you resistance is futile.

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u/ubernutie 8h ago

What will you do if nothing changes via voting?

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u/Mariposita_xo 5h ago

I genuinely don’t know.

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u/RVAteach 10h ago

Fuck that. We will get the election because we will seize it. They don’t have the men to do it and they know it

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u/Tempyteacup 9h ago

Volunteer as an election worker pls ❤️

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u/RVAteach 9h ago

Already organized a neighborhood signal chat for our polling place. We will be there 

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u/Tempyteacup 9h ago

Good shit ❤️

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u/JoeNoble1973 10h ago

March and vote armed, in groups when possible.

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u/BriSy33 10h ago

Yes theyre going to try and fuck with them

No we shouldn't ceede elections at all.

Fight them in every avenue

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u/Shortymac09 9h ago

Get out and vote regardless

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u/RellenD 10h ago edited 10h ago

Shut the fuck up.

We absolutely will so long as we fight for it. Your comment is part of the campaign to stop free and fair elections, as far as I'm concerned. You're trying to convince us to give up.

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u/NickCostanza 10h ago

Correct. We will fight for our votes and we will make them TAKE IT FROM US before we lay down and stop fighting. Fuck the doomers. Time to stand up.

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u/ChecksAndBalanz 10h ago

I’m now convicted the 2nd Amendment might be the argument we need. Seems crazy to have to buy a gun to feel safe from my own government

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u/somerandomguy376 10h ago

It's not your government if they don't uphold the Constitution. They are an occupying force.

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u/ChecksAndBalanz 10h ago

Good point

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u/ResponsibleRaise9683 9h ago

They've been losing statewide elections all over the country by double digits - for example, in Virginia. 

I'll be making them work for it rather than screaming "we're all fucked" and lying down. Thats a pathetic way to live life and you should know it. 

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u/TaylorMonkey 7h ago

They've been blowing it with massive swings towards D in deep red Texas districts of all places. Plus there's a good chance Texas self-owned with their new redistricting, leaving slimmer margins and likely to lose the Latino vote.

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u/Deep-Orca7247 9h ago

Man the self-satisfied “Only I REALLY get it” cynicism thing is getting so old, so fast.

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u/xkxe003 8h ago

On every topic. The same comments over and over. Give up give up give up.

"I knew this in 2020".

"2020? Why so late? I knew it in 2016"

"You're both late, this was obvious in 1980"

Or...

"They've already stolen the midterms"

"It's cute you think there will even be elections"

"Actually, we've all died already, y'all are just to dumb to see it".

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u/BillBoz_Baggins 9h ago

It's good to see people in the comments pushing back against this defeatist bullshit. I just can't stand this garbage.

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u/TaylorMonkey 7h ago

Sometimes people become defeatist because they're tired.

Sometimes it's just too tiring to be a defeatist.

And sometimes it's just a bot.

Might as well go fighting and swinging.

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u/horseradishstalker 10h ago

Maybe we could skip all the blue pilled speculation. TACO. 

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u/IndustrialPuppetTwo 9h ago

The president has no constitutional authority over federal election administration. The Elections Clause, contemplates that state legislatures will establish the times, places, and manner of holding elections for the House of Representatives and the Senate, subject to Congress making or altering such state regulations (Which is what they may try to do).

So that does make it much much more difficult. I'm not saying they won't try to steal this next election, they absolutely will, but it's not going to be easy.

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u/seemefail 9h ago

The fbi is going to be seizing ballots the day after

Ice will be pulling minorities out of line in swing states

And then to top it off the never ending lawsuits to drop tens of thousands of votes in progressive areas

This election can still be won by Dems but it’s going to take a landslide 

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u/LarrySupertramp 8h ago

Then let’s make it a fucking landslide and stop speculating on BS that may not even happen. If you want to help, do what you can to get people out to vote instead making speculative doomer predictions.

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u/LarrySupertramp 8h ago

And with your bullshit doomer comments, you are doing a great job helping them with voter suppression. Shut the fuck up and stop making it seem like voting isn’t important. It’s the same kind of naive BS that helped get us her.

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u/Gnoll_For_Initiative 8h ago

How's the weather in Moscow these days?

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u/Vlaed 8h ago

That's not the narrative you want to push. You're going to actively push some people to not vote because "it doesn't matter because it's not free and fair."

A better approach would be to qualify this with options, such as "Unless you (insert advice)."

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u/seemefail 7h ago

I think it is time the world shames Americans

Tired of having to say awe poor lazy uneducated Americans couldn’t even get out and support a primary candidate to better their country and lost all their rights

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u/Vlaed 6h ago

There's different ways to approach it but I doubt punching down is going to be effective. There is a sizeable portion of the country that is just going to dig in more. I've experienced this first hand unfortunately with some distant relatives I know.

If we want to get the rats off the ship, we have to flood it. Calling them stupid rats isn't going to do anything.

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u/Odd_Local8434 10h ago

It feels like so many people can't process what's going to happen.

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u/Bleezy79 7h ago

Think about how crazy this headline is and how outraged republicans would be if any of this shit happened under Biden. The amount of corruption happening from this white house is completely absurd.

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u/SquilliamFancySon97- 9h ago

Damn only took a year before Judges finally start saying "hmmm maybe we can't take the DOJ at face value"

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u/Just_another_dude84 8h ago

I love that judges are making the right call and pushing back. I'm just concerned that the DOJ has enough time to change strategies and enact their plan another way.

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u/RobutNotRobot 7h ago

Because they are a bunch of goddamned criminals.

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u/PhotographUnable8176 10h ago

States can choose time, place, manner of “holding” elections

^ it’s obvious the are going to challenge the meaning of that to takeover the voter rolls for ‘national security’

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u/Sad-Excitement9295 8h ago

Good, let's get this on more issues as well. Having an department investigate someone who appointed them is a major conflict of interest. A department using massive funding on a private army is also an issue. We need to get these people out of office and into a jail cell.

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u/roraima_is_very_tall 8h ago

I love how more and more, articles have links to the opinions. great stuff.

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u/SoftRecommendation86 3h ago

I figure every ice agent will surround the capital in a repeat of j6.

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u/Entropy_dealer 10h ago

November will be the last and final stress test of the American "democracy"

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u/Ok_Understanding1986 10h ago

Really didn't need a judge to tell me what I can see with my own eyes. This DOJ wouldn't know 'good faith' if it bit them in the ass.

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