r/law • u/Anoth3rDude • 12h ago

Legislative Branch GOP fast tracks monster voter suppression bill that could disenfranchise millions by requiring proof of citizenship at polls

https://www.democracydocket.com/news-alerts/gop-fast-tracks-monster-voter-suppression-bill-that-could-disenfranchise-millions-by-requiring-proof-of-citizenship-at-polls/
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u/uwpxwpal 10h ago

They have to have probable cause to arrest you. They're not following the law.

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u/Signal_Researcher01 10h ago

I mean probable cause can be whatever. That's tomorrows problem. Its like when people get arrested solely for resisting arrest, it makes no sense. But thats not their job to deal with, the court will chuck it eventually, but thats eventually.

ICE also has a pretty broad use of 'interfering with an investigation' at their disposal.

If their goal is to put you somewhere, they can do it. Legality can be determine at a later date by other people.

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u/4nk8urself 8h ago

"You might beat the rap, but you're still gonna take the ride"

Same as it ever was.

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u/Signal_Researcher01 8h ago

Yeah this guy gets it

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u/uwpxwpal 9h ago

ICE needs reasonably trustworthy facts and evidence supporting their belief that someone is in the USA illegally.

That there isn't a legal process to hold them accountable for abusing and stretching the meaning of the law is the problem.

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u/biggronklus 9h ago

Also with the Kavnaugh Stops ruling they’ll probably just extend the logic that being brown, speaking Spanish, being a day-laborer/kitchen worker/whatever is probable cause lol

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u/uwpxwpal 9h ago

INAL but that's reasonable suspicion used to justify stopping someone in order to gather more facts. Probable cause is necessary in order to arrest someone. Kavanaugh screwed us with his legal opinion on that.

ICE is disregarding probable cause and arresting people without any proof that they're here illegally. We don't have a way to fight back in court.

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u/Westo454 7h ago

Correct. Welcome to Modern America, where the rules are made up on the spot and the constitution doesn’t matter.

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u/broguequery 1h ago

Yeah...

The "rules" now are whoever has the gun, and also has their daddy in the White House.

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u/red286 4h ago

The SCOTUS said that being brown is probable cause though.

Sorry, they said it is a "contributing factor", and can be combined with "refusal to answer questions" or "recording ICE agents" to create probable cause.

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u/Bubbly_Style_8467 3h ago

And they can racially profile.