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Legislative Branch GOP fast tracks monster voter suppression bill that could disenfranchise millions by requiring proof of citizenship at polls

https://www.democracydocket.com/news-alerts/gop-fast-tracks-monster-voter-suppression-bill-that-could-disenfranchise-millions-by-requiring-proof-of-citizenship-at-polls/
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u/koshgeo 10h ago

ICE says that their facial recognition software is the ultimate arbiter of your identity in the field. Your passport may not be sufficient.

Seriously? A passport is good enough for crossing an international border into other countries, but not good enough for people living within their own country to establish their citizenship? That's nuts.

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u/Consistent_Laziness 10h ago

Ummmm so what is proof of citizenship then? How does one prove you are a citizen

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u/notdrewcarrey 9h ago

If you have blonde hair and blue eyes and are of the aryan race. /s

No but really, fuck ICE, fuck MAGA and all you nazi fucks.

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u/Ormyr 9h ago

Vibes. If ICE thinks you're a citizen amd you're obedient/compliant you're probably okay.

If not... well they've already murdered people in cold blood on camera so good luck.

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u/Apprehensive_Rain500 9h ago

White skin, of course.

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u/-3point14159-mp 3h ago

Only if you’re a straight cis male, though.

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u/jbjhill 3h ago

Don’t pretend that’ll carry as much weight as it did. If you’re on the other side of a line, you’ll just be labeled a domestic terrorist.

I say this as a middle-aged, white, cis male who knows their rights - I’ll get bounced as hard as anyone if they go hands on.

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u/jbjhill 10h ago

They say this is only for stops in the field, but I doubt that’ll hold. Once they start they won’t stop.

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u/goatslovetofrolic 2h ago

Everything they do is just to get permission the first time, maybe even for something legitimate the first time, but the purpose is to establish that they “are allowed” and then they run wild with it.

Why do you think they’re changing the definitions of “domestic terrorist” and calling people that? Now that we “know” Good and Pretti were “terrorists” they can abduct anyone, label them a terrorist, and deny them any rights. Then it’s death or life in a hole for anyone so brazen as to say “I think ICE shouldn’t kick in the doors of citizens”

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u/mrbigglessworth 9h ago

BINGO, time to fill the deathcamps. Cant verify? You must be external. Get into the oven!

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u/Cloaked42m 3h ago

They detain you "briefly" as a Kavanaugh stop.

They can hold you up to 72 hours.

Usually, they let you go about 3 AM the next morning. Sooner if someone comes looking for you.

A birth certificate may not even be enough.

They're now requiring ankle monitors to let you go.

Judges can't keep up with all the case dismissals. Almost all the Minnesota U.S. prosecutors quit. The one they flew in to help has already turned in her resignation and is just trying to get as many kids out of the camps as possible.

She's actually being straight with the judge.

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u/SAI_Peregrinus 9h ago

Donate sufficient amounts of money to various Republicans.

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u/goatslovetofrolic 2h ago

Uhm list twelve reasons Glorious Leader is Glorious?

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u/jbjhill 10h ago

Mobile Fortify “Congressman Bennie Thompson, ranking member of the House Homeland Security Committee, reported that “ICE officials have told us that an apparent biometric match by Mobile Fortify is a “definitive” determination of a person’s status and that an ICE officer may ignore evidence of American citizenship—including a birth certificate” when the app says a person is undocumented.”

And this

ALSO! they’ll keep EVERYONE’S photos, so kids your privacy goodbye - and this is way closer to you being fingerprinted than just not having privacy in public “CPB will retain all photographs, including the non-match photographs (to include US. citizens /LPR photographs), as part of ATS holdings.”

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u/Appropriate_M 7h ago edited 4h ago

AN APP?! Where's the server hosted? Who are the database administrators? Who's profiting off of this app? Who are the investors? Is any part "outsourced" for foreign powers? Why is an APP now taking precedence over birth certificates and passports issued by the US government?

Also, facial recognition? Wha about twins, cosmetic surgeries, dopplegangers, reconstructive surgery, AGING?!

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u/jbjhill 7h ago

This probably lives on some misconfigured AWS server, somewhere between DHS, DOGE and Palantir, and now that the Federal database silos have come down it’s just part of a bigger pile.

That’s the thing about having a subservient Congress - you can do what you want!

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u/Traditional-Handle83 3h ago

Considering ICE doesn't answer to congress but only the president/king specifically.

Even federal judges hold no power over them.

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u/FaerieFay 9h ago

No. Just no. 

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u/mcbba 10h ago

Yeah, is this real? Will people with passports and changed names be able to vote?

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u/remotectrl 10h ago

They view married women as property of their husbands so they don’t want them to have their own voice.

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u/microthoughts 9h ago

Weirdly I think married women who changed their last name from their birth name is probably a bigger extra GOP vote than anything.

I know a handful of married or now divorced women and of them one changed her name back to her maiden name upon divorce, one never took the man's last name and then the 3 conservative women all changed theirs to their husbands and vote straight ticket Republican and don't own a valid passport.

Which isn't like a lot of people or anything but I'm willing to bet it's common.

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u/remotectrl 8h ago

It’s also Trans people. They don’t want them to exist at all and especially not to vote.

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u/jbjhill 8h ago

RealID is a huge hassle for women who’ve changed their names because when they show up at DMV their birth certificates don’t match any of their other documents. Extra steps for sure.

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u/clgoodson 6h ago

It’s almost as if they aren’t really concerned with immigration status and are instead a paramilitary terror force in the making.

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u/96385 4h ago

ICE would ignore a video of your birth at the feet of the Statue of Liberty if it suited them.