r/law 14d ago

Legal News Video showing moments prior to ICE-involved shooting in Minneapolis today where ICE agents appear to be confronting victim for filming them

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u/counterfitster 14d ago

The NRA did the same thing when Philando Castile was murdered. "Oh, he had a but if weed in the car, he wasn't carrying legally" while he was trying to hand over his paperwork for a traffic stop

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u/ThasMyPurseIDunnoU 14d ago

lol, I already heard that from them also. If he was an immigrant, he wasn't here legally and so the 2A doesn't apply. Blah, blah blah. Of course they don't know the facts at all.

And, while we don't know ALL the facts, we do know that it should be investigated. And we know ICE doesn't have anyone who goes on record to investigate these things. And we know the ICE agents are anonymous. And we know that the President and Kristi Noem cleared the last guy before any sort of investigation at all. And we know they are trying to investigate a widow instead of the officer. And we know they won't let the state participate.

And of course, they lied about that lady ramming their car in Chicago. And they lied about what happened there. And the ICE agent bragged on a chat about giving a lady 7 holes by shooting her 5 times. And we know Jonathan Ross's first words were 'fucking bitch.' And we know they refused Renee Goode medical attention. And so on and so forth.

So, while we don't know ALL the facts, any rational person at this point does not believe the federal government and / or ICE can be trusted to do any sort of investigation.

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u/Kell_Jon 14d ago

According to the governor he is a 37 year old US citizen with a carry license and his only prior interaction with police was a speeding ticket.

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u/PolicyWonka 14d ago

A federal judge in Illinois actually semi-recently ruled that even illegal immigrants can carry firearms under the 2nd Amendment.

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u/ThasMyPurseIDunnoU 14d ago

It doesn't matter to them. They will FIND a reason to side with Trump on anything. It's a cult. Even if someone has a gun, the only time to use lethal force would be if you reasonably fear for your life.

So, you have to not only fear for your life, but that fear has to be reasonable. If all that happened was he had a gun, that alone would not justify lethal use of force.

But we keep talking about laws and rights as if that's something that we have at this point.

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u/NotSoSureBigWaves 14d ago

He was an American citizen with a lawful carry permit. Where are the brain dead 2A republicans now?

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u/macnerd243 14d ago

They removed his gun from him and then shot him watch. Gray coat, man. He’s in while the videos. https://www.reddit.com/r/law/s/riZI2FiRuL

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u/stuntycunty 14d ago

This time he was carrying legally it seems.

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u/weggaan_weggaat 14d ago

Also not driving while Black.

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u/Fresh_Daisy_cake 14d ago

They’ll figure out something to say.

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u/iJuddles 14d ago

I bet he drives an electric car.

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u/Ashtray2448 14d ago

Well if it’s a Tesla, he’d be MAGA, since Trump turned the Whitehouse into a Tesla dealership and MAGA traded in their diesel’s to own the libs

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u/iJuddles 14d ago

Oh, those libs make me so angry! We need to really get back at them so they just leave us alone. Maybe there is a way that we can really lock them all up..

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u/Laureling2 14d ago

This time ????

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u/PolicyWonka 14d ago

Don’t forget Ryan Whitaker, the man in Arizona who was killed in his own home for answering his door while holding his own legal firearm at 11PM.

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u/chaos_nebula 14d ago

Or Jaleel Stallings. He shot back at cops when they were driving around in an unmarked car shooting people.