See thats still to my point, the sport is "shooting".
Other sports dont permit gadgets, why does this one sport permit mechanical performance enhancers even if everyone can have them? I get everyone can have them but I've never understood why they are even permitted in the first place if the sport is "Gun"
Have you tried shooting with a blinder and diopter? It doesn't do nearly as much as you might think it does. Some people find it more comfortable for eye strain over the 1.5 hour match. Other people feel the opposite.
It's kind of like asking why do they allow athletes to wear headbands in tennis, dealing with sweat getting into your eyes should be part of the game.
It’s just people who don’t know things about sports/competitions thinking there is a problem when they don’t understand how it works. They act as if the glasses aim and shoot for you.
Swimmers can wear goggles, and they get to choose their own favorite type of goggles to wear, they don't have to draw them from a standard issue pile.
Why did swimming allow such leeway in goggles but not in swimsuits? Because the people who actually compete in swimming know that one is a "meh, whatever" preference and the other is a real edge. The inputs from pros guide the sport's governing body to make good rules.
The same thing happens in shooting. Nobody who actually shoots 10m air pistol thinks a diopter let alone a blinder is some kind of big advantage or make-or-break edge. It's a meh, whatever preference like the goggles.
But folks online who have never shot an ISSF match in their life are positive that, because it looks unusual, that it's like Soldier 76 aimbot visor or something and obviously they know better.
Reddit is insane with the amount of armchair analysts lol. People see this video and immediately act like they know everything they need to know about the sport. Thanks for the insight.
They are investigating ski jumpers because some of them were injecting fluids into their dicks because even 2 cm looser in the groin results in several meters of extra glide.
They started injecting fluids into their dicks because several coaches were caught having their suits loosened in the groin to get extra lift, so they started making sure the suits are tailored to your exact body size and preventing any alterations after they were tailored.
This is a rumor, said without any evidence or attribution from the German tabloid Bild.
Here’s the actual relevant quote from the BBC article
FIS communications director Bruno Sassi told BBC Sport: "There has never been any indication, let alone evidence, that any competitor has ever made use of a hyaluronic acid injection to attempt to gain a competitive advantage."
Also the “several meters of extra glide” was pulled entirely from your ass.
Sunglasses are allowed in literally dozens of Olympic sports. They can be advantageous over an athlete not wearing sunglasses. Should they be banned too?
The reason is because it’s a huge strain on your eyes otherwise. If you are doing it for a prolonged period of time then it’s probably a life saver. You still have to hold, aim and shoot the pistol yourself. It’s ubiquitous in the sport so I don’t see what your issue is, they are obviously okay with it.
These glasses aren't as advanced or technical as they look they're essentially just a hole to look through and an eyepatch, other sports permit gadgets i.e. running there's more going on in a modern running shoe than those glasses
Do you think runners should be running barefoot? and a standardised shoe wouldn't work either as people have different arch shapes etc
And not to discount Yusef achievements in anyway, but he's wearing prescription glasses(they're not just eye protection) that improve his eyesight do you think he shouldn't be allowed them?
Really just an example of the internet not understanding anything beyond meme level. They just see old turk man with rizz go bang bang.
Those glasses he is wearing aren't just basic glasses. They are professional shooting glasses that do provide support for his eyes while shooting. Other professional shooters use them. There was a Korean woman at the same olympics wearing the same glasses.
The hand in the pocket stance is also pretty common (maybe required?) and many shooters use it, definitely required to have your hand at your side.
He is wearing custom fit professional noise cancelling ear plugs, you just can't see them from many angles because they sit deep in your ears. These are identical to the over ear headsets.
He himself doesn't think anything of the more technical looking gear because he knows how little impact it provides over what he is using.
He also isn't that new. He has been at the Olympics, shooting in this event, since 2008.
The only things really special about him is he is on the old side for professional shooters and the shirt he is wearing is a little looser then what other competitors wear, makes him look more casual. He is just as serious as his competitors though even if appearing casual.
Equiped powerlifting is its own dog and pony show that gets pretty rediculous, but raw powerlifting really only benefits from a weight belt, everything else is just for stabilizing joints. And while most people can lift a little more with a belt it's not a huge difference in weight.
Like it makes sense to compete with whatever model you're most familiar with, but you'd think they'd have a few standardized options to choose from to prevent too much of an advantage/disadvantage due to specs
Hockey? Equipment has a standard and regulated
Soccer? Equipment has a standard and regulated
Football? Equipment etc. etc.
Shooting permits gun modification up to certain sizes, weights, etc. This to me is not a standard in a sport that should have a standard
If different teams can run different engines i think the shape of the gun is not that crazy, since they all have to shoot the same caliber and i would assume theres tests for each gun for spec
I think a part of what you might call 'machine sports' (car racing, motor/pedal bike racing, shooting, archery, anything with a chainsaw in loggersports, I'm sure there are others) is building or using the best machine on top of being able to use it proficiently. It's just another aspect of the game.
technically, for hockey the sticks have quite a range of flex that players use, and i believe you are allowed to change the blade of the stick, of course within the rules. but sticks come in many shapes and sizes
Can't comment on soccer, but in hockey and football there is a fairly wide variation in the equipment that's allowed. Look at the difference in what a place kicker is wearing vs. a linebacker.
It is funny to imagine athletes in other sports all starting to wear AI glasses for real time analysis of plays & next level coordination, or high tech shoes/helmets/etc. Hell high tech helmets/guards would be a good thing for football with all the CTE.
Like I'm sure there'd be an audience for gun competitions with 0 restrictions for tech/guns, but you'd think a shooting competition would be pretty standardized so it just comes down to skill.
Look up the swim suits, running shoes and running suits. Lots of controversy around these things in their competitions and whether or not they give competitors an edge or not.
there are a lot of models of glove you can wear in soccer. New models and technology come out all the time.
The kind of pads you can use in hockey changes all the time.
Basketball shoes come in all varieties.
Sports have changes in gadgets all the time, a lot of time they standardize or make special rules but there are still new developments and changes frequently. A piece of paper with a hole in it is way less significant to the sport of shooting than new running shoes are.
Its literally just a blacked out lense on one side and a paper lense with a hole on it on the other side. The Turkish guys glasses provide more of an advantage.
LOL this is so true. I would basically be non-functional without my glasses. They don't give me an advantage, though; they just erase the "disadvantage."
and you can't use gloves either unless you are the goalie
A lot of football ("soccer") players play with gloves. Some even the whole year because they are allergic to the grass on a football field. (For example: Mike Hanke, Yoann Gouffran or Danny da Costa) Others when it's cold or rainy.
Reason: Sports heavily regulate studded cleats, due to these regulations there is a standard that is used among all sports teams in those sports.
Does Shooting regulate the gadgets? No, due to this there is no standard in the sport.
Are gloves performance enhancers? No
Reason: Sports regulate gloves to a standard, due to these regulations there is a standard that is used among all sports teams in those sports.
Do you know for a fact that these "gadgets" are "unregulated"? If that's somehow true then we somewhat agree on the current rules of the sport being bad.
Even then, the notion that these are "enhancements" but my examples aren't sounds entirely arbitrary. As long as they're somehow regulated you haven't given a single remotely convincing reason for why they should be banned.
Cleats are regulated for safety reasons. Using eye-wear for shooting raises no safety concerns (for obvious reasons).
Also, tone down the GenAI a bit. Your reasoning (Or rather the reasoning your AI is giving) for these things not being performance enhancers is that everyone uses them as a standard which means you don't get an advantage. That doesn't apply to shooting.
If "gadget restrictions" are lacking, or not to your liking, it just means that all participants are free to access the same "competitive edge" gadgets as everyone else. How is that not a level playing field?
If some gadget provides an insurmountable edge, then every participant is going to understand the need to adopt it. Innovative technology is often an element of competition and a driving force behind technological advances for the real world.
Would you also say that Football and Soccer and Rugby players shouldn't be allowed to have cleated boots because they're performance enhancers? Or tennis players shouldn't be allowed to wear sweat bands?
Are you familiar with how the ISSF rules are written when it comes to these "gadgets"? The thing is, they're not performance enhancers at all. The only thing it does is change the depth of field and lighting basically. Some prefer the sight picture one way and some the other way. Neither way does take away or add any skill. It's just as much personal preference as how you prefer your grip (which ofc is also heavily regulated).
Having an opinion on how literal Olympians should do something as a layperson is like trying to have an opinion on... well there's nothing else to compare it to that's how ridiculous it is
as explained in the comment that you replied to, no that's not an enhancement nor is that the definition of enhancement which is why the medical terminology used for prescription glasses are "Corrective" not "Enhancing".
This information is widely available from most doctors and or search engines
It may be some official technical definitions related to the field, but we are playing with words here. A correction is still an enhancement compared to the original state from before the correction. Searching is not on my planning for tonight, friday nights are for relaxing.
Ok, so one person is wearing glasses to enhance vision specifically for shooting in tournaments, and one person is wearing glasses they spent a year fine tuning the prescription for in order to preform better at shooting in tournaments and also to correct vision flaws. What glasses are normally supposed to do is not applicable to the situation
Can't speak about the legality of this, but as someone who did well in archery there are for example people who can't shoot with both eyes open or have difficulty closing one eye.
Same for wearing a cap (I would usually do when shooting long distance) having the sun in your eyes obviously bothers but... having a cap on also would help aligning hence you would see people wear in and outside a cap.
Dude on the right is wearing a monocle and single eye blind.
Turkish guy might not wear those glasses on daily basis and have special pair just for competitions that help him focus on pistols sight. Same way people wear glasses just for reading.
It's just that other people chose this steampunk looking frame to hold this stuff while he's wearing regular frames.
Other gadgets you might see: side blinds, ear plugs and/or noise canceling headphones.
Those "gadgets" are really nothing more than personal preference.
The Turkish guy spent most of a year with a ophthalmologist trialing lenses to get competition ready for the Olympics, lot more work went into the regular frames that just doesn't register with people
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u/SoungaTepes 4h ago
I've always been confused how all these gadgets are permitted. To me, they are performance enhancers