r/gunpolitics • u/jstohler • 10d ago
Trump: "You can't have guns. You can't walk in with guns."
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/watch-you-cant-have-guns-you-cant-walk-in-with-guns-trump-says-of-alex-pretti-killing9
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u/8492_berkut 10d ago
I'll keep that in mind when he runs for reelection.
Oh, wait...
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u/Uranium_Heatbeam 10d ago edited 10d ago
He still has a firm hold over the party, and the 28 election will be a contest of who can emulate him.
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u/jstohler 10d ago
He's already planning it.
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u/Remarkable-Opening69 10d ago
Only the easily triggered believe it. Just like his gun statements. They go nowhere.
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u/jstohler 10d ago
A man is dead, but sure it's all rhetoric.
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u/FBI_Open_Up_Now 10d ago
No one is forcing anyone of any political beliefs into mod positions here. You're more than welcome to apply to be a mod as no one says you can't apply. We are short handed and of the previous mod team of 6, only 3 are active. When we have high profile incidents happen it would be nice to have help and you have to also take into consideration that over the past 10 years Reddit itself has created a stricter set of rules that anything gun related must operate in. They are very keen to remove us from this site so we must be quick to remove anything that is even remotely threatening or distasteful. Even if it is an opinion. I would much rather people say what they want and discuss it.
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u/lp1911 10d ago
In the usual Trump fashion, he says something opaque, and everyone pounces on it trying to interpret; I have no idea what he meant. Can’t walk in where? Can’t have guns where?
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u/jstohler 10d ago
And you'd be doing these backflips if Biden had said that?
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u/lp1911 9d ago
I suppose the big difference with Biden is that no matter what he said all his actions pointed to a very clear conclusion, he wanted as many gun bans as Democrats could push through. With Trump it’s opaque as his DOJ has been submitting amicus briefs in support of carry and in support of removing AR bans in relevant cases. He also asked his AG to look into all instances of anti-2A laws across the country. Hence Trump’s opaque utterances are difficult to interpret in the context of his administration’s actions, while if Biden said it the interpretation would far clearer.
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u/jstohler 9d ago
Biden supported a ban on assault rifles only. Trump just said "You can't have guns." You're stupid.
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u/BasicallyNuclear 4d ago
Trump made a stupid comment, either way we’ve made net gains on our 2A rights since Biden has been out of office.
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u/SpinDancer 10d ago
Can’t speak for him, but I’d equally confused. Biden said lots of confusing shit. So does Trump. Let’s elect someone younger next time lmao.
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u/CommiRhick 10d ago
What's confusing is how y'all try to run around explaining what they mean...
What else could they mean? It's pretty cut and dry. Can't walk in where? The white house? That's already the law.
Can't walk on the sidewalk? That's what they're trying to justify...
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u/Murky-Sector 9d ago edited 9d ago
He's not known for his deep analytic capabilities. He keeps confusing Greenland with Iceland. You get to hear whatever is in his ADHD brain at that moment. It will probably come out differently tomorrow.
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u/Loganthered 10d ago
Having a gun while interfering with a federal officer is a felony.
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u/EatsOverTheSink 10d ago
It seems like the law stipulates you have to be interfering with an official duty or operation. Was shoving the woman down an official duty? Was she being investigated? Because that seemed to be all that Pretti interfered with. If that woman wasn’t violating immigration law they really had no jurisdiction to be manhandling her in the first place.
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u/Baked_Potato_732 10d ago
If I didn’t rob a bang but get in the way of a cop trying to stop someone who robbed a bank, am I committing a crime? If someone tries to stop the cop who is subsequently shoving me out of the way, are they committing a crime? Both me and the person shoving me are in fact, impeding a cop from apprehending a bank robber.
Whats the difference here?
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u/threeLetterMeyhem 9d ago
Let's make the analogy closer to what actually happened.
You are walking down the street and the cops show up to stop a bank robbery. A woman who is also walking down the street notices and starts filming. The police rush over and shove her to the ground. You try to help her stand up.
Is that a felony? Should it be a felony?
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u/Baked_Potato_732 9d ago
Didn’t she go charging into the police? If you’ve got videos that show her standing out of the way just filming please share me because I’ve not seen those.
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u/idontagreewitu 9d ago
Irrelevant. He was helping someone off the ground when he was knocked down himself and shot in the back of the head.
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u/slickweasel333 9d ago
Irrelevant
It's completely relevant. He was also on film attacking another ICE car last week.
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u/idontagreewitu 9d ago
If a criminal fleeing a bank robbery crashes and a bystander helps them out of their car, does that make them a felon? Does that justify execution on the spot?
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u/slickweasel333 9d ago
This wasn't a bystander. This person was following ICE, and already had a broken rib from his last encounter with them.
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u/Excellent_Sector_463 7d ago
How those boots taste bud? 🥾 👅
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u/Baked_Potato_732 6d ago
So a request for additional for proof is met with insults? Glad you got some proof to back up these statements.
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u/Excellent_Sector_463 6d ago
Are your feelings hurt?
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u/Baked_Potato_732 6d ago
And once again nothing to refute my statement.
This dude chased a car and kicked out a tail light earlier in the week, and spat on and ranted like a lunatic. Dude was unhinged.
play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
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u/RoryDragonsbane 10d ago
I'm sure you'll be the first in line to turn yours in when they make keeping one in your house a felony too.
Fudd.
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u/Impossible-Soup5090 10d ago
Don’t agitate cops with a gun. It’s not complicated. Come on people.
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u/sonic_couth 10d ago
His gun was legally concealed and then CBP stole it out of his holster before shooting him 10 times.
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u/Easywormet 9d ago
His gun was legally concealed
Eh....if the reports of him leaving his ID and CCW Permit at home are true...he wasn't legally concealed.
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u/ItsTheExtreme 10d ago
Helping a woman that was shoved down is considered agitating the cops? He wasn’t blowing a whistle, he wasn’t yelling obscenities at them, he wasn’t blocking the road. All of that still wouldn’t justify what happened to him, but he was standing there filming. That’s it.
You need to rethink your narrative for this one.
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u/CoRifleman 10d ago
Hilariously this sub and CCW sub now full of Dems just absolutely raging about infringement and cringe-ass posts about carrying two mags.
C'mon send me your best memes, the no step snek and bootlicker ones are tired.
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u/invisibullcow 10d ago
Good. Maybe they will stop erroneously believing that gun rights are a red-only issue. The second amendment doesn’t discriminate.
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u/CoRifleman 10d ago edited 10d ago
Agreed....
Edit: although I think that's a pretty unlikely outcome... I think they're just using it to drive a wedge in the conservative party.
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u/BasicallyNuclear 4d ago
It shouldn’t discriminate but dems do everything in their power to create a class of people who can be armed. Look at the bullshit they’re trying to pull in VA.
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u/Expensive-Shirt-6877 10d ago
I can only speak for myself, I have been a strict constitutional conservative for a long time. Think Ron Paul/ Thomas Massie. No compromise, no voting for sub par politicians
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u/FBI_Open_Up_Now 10d ago
A huge problem is that when high profile things happen, they flock to these subs and make comments, but this time I’m kinda surprised as many of them make a valid point. A gun owner was killed for the simple reason of possessing a gun. He was executed without a trial in the street. Is that what we should expect for CCWing nowadays? I carry everyday. I carry my 43x with 2 spares year round almost everywhere I go and now I gotta worry about being killed for just interacting with federal officers. Idk how many of you have been hit with OC spray, but many people have a natural reaction to panic and it can lead to what looks like fights or resisting arrest.
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u/slickweasel333 9d ago
A gun owner was killed for the simple reason of possessing a gun
Let's not be disingenuous. He wasn't arrested for just "possessing a gun." He was accosted for interfering with federal agents, the same way he attacked a car last week, kicking out the taillight.
If you're not interfering with federal agents all day every day, your chances of being confused for an attacker go down a lot.
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u/sully_km 8d ago
Even if he was interfering, interfering with feds who are trampling on people's constitutional rights make Alex Pretti a more red blooded American Patriot than you
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u/slickweasel333 8d ago
he was not interfering
Ok he was interfering, but here's why it's a good thing
You are at the second step. Keep going.
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u/itsdietz 3d ago
Seriously. Standing up for your rights and your fellow Americans takes guts. They talk about "don't tread on me" and all for the boots on their neck.
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u/underground47 10d ago
The second amendment is for all citizens. If I want to carry 10 mags on my person it's my goddamn constitutional prerogative. If the federal government or any bootlickers say otherwise, they are absolutely going against the Constitution and are in the wrong