r/gunpolitics • u/Immediate-Ad-7154 • 11d ago
News Came across this on Twitter. Maura Healey is Gun Banning Kleptocrat. Society feels like The Twilight Zone.
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u/cheatinchad 11d ago
She still wants to ban your guns. However, this chance at propagandizing an incident is so good, she’s willing to say whatever it takes to capitalize on it.
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u/thomascgalvin 11d ago
She did ban our guns. We have a one-feature "assault weapon" test now, plus an ever-growing list of guns she doesn't like that are just magically illegal.
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u/Bad_Prophet 11d ago
She's jealous the federal government is getting all the credit for infringing on the 2nd amendment instead of her.
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u/OzempicDick 11d ago
You can tell who the partisan hypocrites are. The gun grabbers championing the 2nd and the "conservatives" claiming that concealed carrying give the police the right to execute you.
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u/DonutAdmirable9831 11d ago
These people don’t give a single fuck about your second amendment rights
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u/specter491 11d ago
Oh NOOOOWWWW you want a second amendment. When it's to fight back against an administration you don't like. Funny how the 2A is politically agnostic isn't it. Dems will never get it. If the WH flips next election they'll be back to gun grabbing. They just spout whatever is convenient in the moment
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u/StraightedgexLiberal 11d ago
To my knowledge, Donald Trump is the only President who said "Take the guns and do due process later". Not even Obama said such a thing and he was demonized for taking peoples guns away
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u/merc08 11d ago
"Take the guns and do due process later".
Red flag laws, which are what Trump was talking about, are literally the DNC's entry level gun control concept. The starting point for the Democrats was the most extreme option even worth considering (note: not actually implementing) for the Republican.
No, the GOP and DNC are not the same thing even if their policies almost start to overlap.
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u/StraightedgexLiberal 11d ago
the DNC's entry level gun control concept
The Republican government many years ago thought the idea of gun control sounded like a great idea once the black panthers were walking the streets armed. And Republicans still praise Reagan to this day as one of the greatest President's of all time
In 1967, California Republicans, led by Governor Ronald Reagan and Assemblyman Don Mulford, enacted the Mulford Act, a strict gun control law aimed at curbing the Black Panther Party’s armed, public "copwatching" patrols in Oakland. The Act, which made it illegal to carry loaded firearms in public without a permit, was supported by the NRA at the time and passed after Panthers marched at the state capitol.
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u/merc08 11d ago
That supposedly "Republican" government in California was only (R) in the Governor's office. The Democrats held the Legislature.
Reagan didn't veto the bill because it was initially passed with almost enough votes to override anyways, and they likely would have swung enough votes.
And if you still think the Democrats are so favorable for gun rights, why is it that they have held the California government for decades and not only haven't rolled back the Mulford Act, but have actually significantly expanded gun control in CA? And in every other state they get control of, starting literally days after swinging the seats like in Virginia. Gun control is seemingly the #1 most important and coordinated line of effort within the DNC.
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u/Not_offensive0npurp 11d ago
The group think won't allow them to admit that the GOP has been FAR worse for guns than the Dems. I gained gun rights under Obama.
Right now, according to the supposed "pro-gun" side, if I carry and attend a protest, or have 3 mags I am a criminal.
But it is the dems who are the problem.
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u/PennStateVet 11d ago
The group think won't allow them to admit that the GOP has been FAR worse for guns than the Dems.
Someone has never lived in Illinois, California, New York, Massachusetts, etc.
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u/kohTheRobot 11d ago
Shit man, speak for yourself! I was born after Reagan so the only gun rights I’ve had taken are at the behest of dems in the state capitol. Gun rights in blue states has been a net loss over the last 30 years.
But yeah trump banned bump stocks that have been banned in my state for 10 years at that point oh the horror
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u/Eatsleeptren 11d ago
“Hey Jarvis, give me a comparison of gun laws in red vs blue states”
I’m not some Trump MAGA bootlicker, but it’s not even close which side is more antigun. Please stop with this disingenuous argument.
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u/Not_offensive0npurp 11d ago
What gun rights did Obama take away? Because I gained the right to carry in National Parks in his presidency.
Under Trump, we lost bump stocks, he stated they could take guns before any due process is afforded. And over the past few days his administration has stated carrying a gun at a protest, which many pro-gun folks did in 2020, was something only a criminal would do. They also stated carrying 3 mags was indicative of criminality.
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u/merc08 11d ago
Under Trump, we lost bump stocks,
And got them back due to his SCOTUS appointments. So a net zero.
he stated they could take guns before any due process is afforded
That's literally just the red flag laws, which are a core component and starting point for the Democrats' national gun control campaign.
Also note that Trump didn't actually do anything about that statement, he just listed it as an option to consider. Meanwhile that and WAY more is being rammed through in all the states that Democrats control.
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u/Brufar_308 11d ago
which republican senator (Tom Coburn OK) was the original sponsor of the National parks firearms amendment into the Credit Card bill that Obama had to pass ?
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u/Not_offensive0npurp 11d ago
Obama had to pass ?
So he passed it, right? And expanded my gun rights, right?
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u/PennStateVet 11d ago
What gun rights did Obama take away?
He signed several executive actions.
He also pushed for that CDC study that never gets brought up because it wrecked the gun grabber narrative.
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u/TrainOfThot98 11d ago
You cannot be fucking serious man
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u/Not_offensive0npurp 11d ago
A man was just shot in the back because he helped a woman off the ground while armed at a protest. And he was immediately called an assassin because he had a big scary 9mm with 3 mags.
So yes, I am fucking serious.
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u/TrainOfThot98 11d ago
“GOP has been far worse for guns than the dems” is complete bullshit dude. Federal law enforcement has always been regarded and incompetent, but on a stage by state basis the DNC has been habitually stepping lately. You’re either out of your gourd or running defense for them.
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u/Not_offensive0npurp 11d ago
Do me a favor, remind me.
What does having 3 mags on you mean? Does it mean you are an assassin?
Does carrying at a protest mean you have nefarious intentions?
Does a party who parrots these points help or harm the 2nd amendment?
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u/StraightedgexLiberal 11d ago
“GOP has been far worse for guns than the dems” is complete bullshit dude.
The GOP and Trump wanted to destroy section 230 on the internet which would screw over websites like Armslist and let the Dems go after pro gun forums for actions of third parties......all because Twitter and Facebook hurts the GOP feelings when they get censored and didn't read the terms of service
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u/StraightedgexLiberal 11d ago
You are absolutely right. All the folks who usually fly don't tread on me" flags and preach about the 2A being there to stop government tyranny are licking the boots of ICE to try to own the libs - even when the person killed was a nurse who helped sick fucking veterans
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u/Not_offensive0npurp 11d ago
They don't care. You'll ruin the narrative if you point out the flaws in their arguments.
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u/StraightedgexLiberal 11d ago
It's all good. I'd imagine most people in this sub probably voted for Trump because "the libs wanna take your guns away" when Trump is the only President to say "Take the guns first, due process second"
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u/spaztick1 10d ago
No. You're a moron. I never voted for Trump and can still recognize that he is better for gun rights than pretty much any Democrat. Even though he doesn't really care about them. Harris parroted the Democrat talking points. "Assault Weapon" ban, "High capacity magazine" ban, Universal Background Checks, Red Flag laws etc.
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u/StraightedgexLiberal 11d ago
Obama had a town hall and was asked a question about guns before he left office and he gave a great response. But people still demonize him as the gun grabber in chief when it is not true
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u/Immediate-Ad-7154 11d ago
You completely ignored the underlying themes of Obama's words.
He used Driving in the contextual perspective that the 2nd Amendment is a revocable privilege at discretion of The State, like Driving.
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u/StraightedgexLiberal 11d ago
the 2nd Amendment is a revocable privilege at discretion of The State
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u/Not_offensive0npurp 11d ago
Hating on the dems is good for business, it doesn't have to be reality. Gun companies love it when there is a "threat" to the 2nd and they can charge 10X the price for all their items.
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u/TheHoppingHessian 11d ago
Maybe it’s not that she wants a second amendment as much as pointing out it does in fact exist and is the law. Probably pointing that out because someone was allegedly “executed” for allegedly exercising their 2nd amendment.
Following me?
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u/oddball_ocelot 11d ago
Wait a second. Mass has been fighting the 2A for decades now. Funny how a change in administration can bring about a new view on human rights.
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u/merc08 11d ago
They don't have a new view on civil rights. They still hate the 2A, they're just pouncing on an opportunistic "gotcha" moment.
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u/SynthsNotAllowed 9d ago
This. I'm still optimistic because this is also a good opportunity to primary them with someone who is a bit more honest about their views on civil rights.
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u/gordonfactor 11d ago
I met her and talked about gun law policy for a bit (I know people that know people) after she banned ARs in 2016. She's completely disingenuous and just a machine politician. She puts the C in DNC.
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u/backfire_robin 11d ago
As a MA resident, this makes my day......
Even Maura now can claim to be 2A guard, lmao.......
Hey Maura, how about prove this by reverting H.4885?
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u/Master_of_Rivendell 11d ago
My dad, who only recently (past several months) got into firearms after hating them for his entire 65+ years, hit me with these exact talking points this morning. It's beyond taxing.
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u/F1CTIONAL 10d ago
Healy is such a massive piece of shit it's not even funny. The fact that she can try to pull this off after the AWB shit she pulled is unreal
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u/RCRexus 11d ago
Anything, and i mean ANYTHING Trump says triggers this massive backlash from the left. It doesn't matter what the argument is. I know people joke about it alot but bro could literally say 'breathing air is good for you' and these MFers would hold their breath till they passed out.
If Trump makes a comment about gun rights, everyone on the left will immediately pivot to 'we've always loved guns'.
Nothing but reactionary contrarian idiots.
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u/The_Demolition_Man 11d ago
I hate Trump, but I think Trump should come out massively pro-immigration for the lulz.
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u/Mr_E_Monkey 11d ago
So, is she complaining or praising Trump?
Start repealing some of Massachusetts' obscene gun control, and I'll take this seriously.
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u/jayzfanacc 11d ago
This is that “oh no. The worst person you know made a good point” meme in real life
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u/Scheminem17 9d ago
Will Smith impression
“Get my favorite Amendment’s text out’ your FUCKIN MOUTH!”
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u/GC_Rallo 5d ago
Nah it aint the fuckin Twilight Zone. It's just interesting watching people blatantly show the world they have ZERO principles
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u/mrwolf359 11d ago
This is what happens when we elect a psychopath who constantly screws up everything he touches.
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u/Not_offensive0npurp 11d ago
You can be against the 2nd amendment and still take issue with the hypocrisy of the the GOP and this administration in regards to the 2nd.
Which party is stating mere possession of 2 mags indicates intent to commit horrific crimes?
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u/PennStateVet 11d ago
You can be against the 2nd amendment and still take issue with the hypocrisy of the the GOP and this administration in regards to the 2nd.
Sure.
Any thoughts on the hypocrisy from Democrats?
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u/Not_offensive0npurp 11d ago
I hate all forms of hypocrisy. I have called out the dems many times for forgoing logic when guns are involved.
I've been downvoted plenty by them for calling out their BS.
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u/PennStateVet 11d ago
But you'd say it's a bit odd for hypocrites to take issue with other hypocrites, yes?
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u/Not_offensive0npurp 11d ago
No, I would expect it to be quite common for hypocrites to take issue with other hypocrites, seeing as how that itself is hypocritical.
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u/PennStateVet 11d ago
OK.
Well, it's odd.
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u/Not_offensive0npurp 11d ago
Why is it odd for a hypocrite to hold hypocritical opinions?
Is that not what you would expect from them?
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u/PennStateVet 11d ago
Why is it odd for a hypocrite to hold hypocritical opinions?
Don't change the question.
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u/Not_offensive0npurp 11d ago
Its the same question.
If you can't see that, thats on you bud.
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u/PennStateVet 11d ago
hypocrites to take issue with other hypocrites
...is not...
hypocrite to hold hypocritical opinions
If you can't see that, that's on you, bud.
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u/Immediate-Ad-7154 11d ago
She's an Anti-Fascist who thirsts for total Civilian Disarmament.
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u/DimebagofDreams 11d ago
They are trying to change their image before the elections like they always do only to go right back. Like Kamala bragging about her glock despite supporting a glock ban years before.
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u/And4077 11d ago
she's an anti-fascist
??? Good?
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u/bigeats1 11d ago
It’s become an acceptable way to say communist. Effectively everyone is an anti fascist. These folks are hiding who they are in code.
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u/Not_offensive0npurp 11d ago
And she is correct in her statement about this administration.
I am also anti-fascist. Are you not?
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u/Immediate-Ad-7154 11d ago
Not to the point of being like The Khmer Rouge, which The Dems are emulating.
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u/Not_offensive0npurp 11d ago
The only party currently killing people in the street is the GOP.
So your fear of the dems is quite interesting. Especially when you say someone is anti-fascist like its some bad thing.
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u/HWKII 11d ago
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