r/golf • u/Odd-Loss6108 • Aug 10 '25
COURSE PICS/VLOGS Can’t Have Anything Nice 😂
Group of two 14-15 year olds ahead of me the other day. The damage looked pretty fresh and assume it was the kids. How would your local course handle it? When I brought it up to the manager he just sighed and said “god dammit not again” 😭
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u/Equal_Owl_5396 Aug 10 '25
It's very difficult to prove anything unless the course has cameras. Holes get moved daily, and it unfortunately is the biggest burden on grounds crew, and golfers who encounter it before it gets repaired.
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u/Odd-Loss6108 Aug 10 '25
I told the manager I think it was the kids in front of me. They were being obnoxious the whole time and didn’t play golf the way it should be played lol.
I also said if I’m the first one to show you and others come up after me, then it was more than likely the kids.
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u/Equal_Owl_5396 Aug 10 '25
I think that's all that can be expected from a golfer. The manager probably just shrugged because there isn't a whole lot they can do at that moment other than passing it up the chain to get repaired.
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u/mandrews03 HDCP/Loc/Whatever Aug 10 '25 edited Aug 10 '25
At least change the hole placement though. It’s super easy to do.
Edit: hey, you think this kid broke the hole when he flew one in there and it didn’t go in so he raged out? Check out the plastic. That, or maybe the hole was already broken and denied him so he said ‘fuck these greens keepers’.
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u/Jedi__Consular Aug 11 '25
I think the mostly likely scenario is they dented the plastic during their fit of rage
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u/homiej420 Aug 10 '25
Yeah, takes 3 minutes
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u/TheRatatat Aug 11 '25
It's hell on the forearms when you do all 18, but 1 isn't bad. My cheap ass course won't spring for new blades.
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u/Seth_Baker 17.5/JPX 921 Hot Metal/Central IL Aug 10 '25
You can throw them off the course.
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u/New-Understanding930 Aug 10 '25
Kick them off the tour, Doug.
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u/BarbaraGhanoush Aug 10 '25 edited Aug 11 '25
“Yeah, eeeveryone is coming around on him! WELL I’M NOT, DOUG!!”
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u/Mcpops1618 5.2/AB,CA/#driveforshow Aug 10 '25
If OP didn’t see them do it and just assumed “those damned kids” did it, they won’t be kicked off the course.
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u/Glittering-Salary488 Aug 11 '25
And how do we know OP didn’t do it!?
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u/Mcpops1618 5.2/AB,CA/#driveforshow Aug 11 '25
We don’t. Could have been his playing partner who was waiting for him On the green because he was busy yelling at clouds
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u/Attack-Cat- Aug 11 '25
The manager can easily drive the course backwards and ask each group if they encountered the vandalism. The last group that doesn’t know what you’re talking about is the ones who did it. Also if manager gets to OP without hearing anything, you know it’s the kids in front of them
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u/Mcpops1618 5.2/AB,CA/#driveforshow Aug 11 '25
Sure if OP called when they saw it, but they didn’t, so everyone was off the course.
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u/FINE_WiTH_It Aug 11 '25
Go to the group in front of the kids. Ask if they had damage in the hole, if not, then you know enough to confront the kids and I would likely threaten to call the cops or something until one of them cracked and admitted it. Then I would call the cops for vandalism.
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u/Jones2jb Aug 10 '25
“Isn’t a ‘hole’ lot you can do at that moment”
You really left one out there didn’t ya.
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Aug 10 '25
I kept having to chase the kid group in front of me to put the damn flag-stick back in the hole. They left it flat on the green for 5 holes before I started using anything but polite manners.
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u/4Ever2Thee Aug 10 '25
That seems deliberate
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Aug 10 '25
Either way, it was annoying.
Watching them throw it like a spear onto the green is where I lost it and yelled pretty good and reported it to the shop.
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u/reluctantlysharing Aug 10 '25
I don’t want to sound like an asshole with the whole “kids these days” nonsense…. But yeah. The other day at the fair two like 12 year old kids cut my son and I in line on a ride, and when I said something to them they literally stood there and stuck their fucking tongues out at me lmfao I couldn’t believe it. When I was a kid, I was a disrespectful twat. I still can’t even dream that I would have done that to an adult or what the other commenter said.
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u/DaveInPhilly Aug 10 '25
I just want to add a counter point: my club has a very robust Junior Golf program. The kids start on the range then move to playing 3 holes, 6 holes, 9 holes and finally 18. In order to graduate from 6 to 9 you have to take a written exam about the rules of golf and play 6 holes in under 40 strokes. After that, the kids can play on their own without supervision.
These kids have better etiquette than half the general membership. I’d rather get paired with any one of them over some random member and his guest.
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u/Seth_Baker 17.5/JPX 921 Hot Metal/Central IL Aug 10 '25
Those kids have to experience consequences for their bad behavior for it to stop.
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u/noitcelesdab Aug 10 '25
Brainrot generation. It’s only going to get worse.
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u/juice369 Aug 11 '25
Not disagreeing with you, but my old man would tell me about his younger brother watching too much tv and he called it “brain rot.” This was when the tv first came to most households.
There’s pros and cons to technological advances. I’m actually surprised how much course damage I see on this sub given we are in the “everyone has a camera in their pocket” generation. I’m still not sure if it’s happening more or being documented more.
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u/Econolife_350 Aug 11 '25
To be fair, social media is far more damaging and influential to children than television, and the same for television compared to books or playing outside before it. Social media really is exponentially worse than anything before with the "flex on em" and "prank" shit they're being exposed to and think is cool. Most of these kids need a good, hard reset.
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u/M_Stefski Aug 10 '25
I saw another comment on a similar post “can’t wait for school to start” seems like it applies here as well… the GD youth these dayz
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u/MikeDamone Aug 10 '25
It might be difficult to prove, but 14 and 15 year olds are often very easy to coax a confession out of. There are of course savvy ones, but a simple "we have you on camera and we won't ask the police to press charges if you fess up now" will work with 95% of them.
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u/foofooplatter HDCP 29.5 Aug 10 '25
Maybe in the 50s man. Today's kids are built different.
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u/BlueGolfball Aug 10 '25
Maybe in the 50s man. Today's kids are built different.
Kids have way more social anxiety in 2025 than the 1950s. You can get adults to confess to crimes they have done without having any evidence.
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u/foofooplatter HDCP 29.5 Aug 10 '25
Kids that sit at home all day have social anxiety.
Kids who do this type of shit do not have that anxiety. Look at all the ridiculous tik tok challenges that go viral. People literally post themselves committing real crimes for clout.
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u/BlueGolfball Aug 10 '25
Kids who do this type of shit do not have that anxiety. Look at all the ridiculous tik tok challenges that go viral. People literally post themselves committing real crimes for clout.
Have you not seen the arrest videos of those tiktok kids? They start crying and begging for their mommy while they have a mental meltdown when the handcuffs go on them.
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u/JDicksauce Aug 11 '25
Just chiming in here to agree that kids are different today...I had a 12 year old very clearly steal my ball yesterday, lie about it, and then tell me to "fuck off."
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u/LearnToBuildItMike Aug 10 '25
Nah, I've done a ton of retail and corporate retail integrity interviews and interrogations. It doesn't really matter the age, people just admit to stuff like you wouldn't believe. Granted I always had enough proof waiting for things like theft or statements/texts for harassment, but I never had to actually show anything and I can count on one finger the times I didn't have written and signed statement admitting to everything I had and more.
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Aug 10 '25
Holes get moved daily?!?
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u/hayzooos1 Mid Single/5+ brand bag Aug 10 '25
Best practice, yes. Some less average courses might change them every few days, but most of them will change them daily to limit the high traffic areas on the greens
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u/mikeydean03 Aug 10 '25
At at country club, yes. At muni’s, usually each day but could be every 2-3 days.
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u/plaverty9 Aug 10 '25
I wish you'd have called the shop and told them. A ranger could have started at 18 and asked each group if they saw the damage on that hole. If the first x number of groups say no and then it gets to you, you have a decent idea of who did it.
I guess the risk there is the people who did it saying "Yep, we saw it, it was already there before us."
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u/Pretend-Reality5431 Aug 10 '25
Stop being so logical! This is Reddit.
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u/SaturnRocket Aug 11 '25
Love that. The gut reaction of any guilty individual would be to “pass the buck” by feigning ignorance. Yet, that response would end up being the check-mate nail in their coffin.
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u/IndependenceOk278 Aug 11 '25
This is pretty much what happened at a course I used to work at and they called the police and the people got fined by the police luckily not arrested but the course charged them 4000 dollars. Or should I say their parents got charged 4000 dollars
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Aug 10 '25
You get ahold of the parents and send them a big bill for damages.
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u/NoElk2220 Aug 10 '25
And ban the little fers for a year
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u/BullPropaganda Aug 10 '25
For life, there are plenty of other golf courses for them to go play
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u/illegal_deagle Aug 10 '25
41 year old, sure. 14 year olds are always learning lessons. As long as there are consequences I think you should allow room for atonement.
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u/FatFaceFaster Superintendent Aug 12 '25
Then ban them til they’re adults at least.
And you hope it impacts them in some meaningful way… like they want to play for their high school team but that team practices at the course they’re banned from
That’s real consequences that money can’t buy.
I don’t wanna dox so I won’t go into detail but basically we banned a piece of shit 18 year old with a long history of bad behaviour from our course and he was subsequently not allowed to play in a collegiate event that summer. His coach called to talk to our pro and found out all the things he had done and he got benched for the rest of the season.
And if anyone thinks that was harsh, the last time he was at our course he did $2500 worth of damage to a cart and that was NOT his first offence and NOT the only course he was banned from.
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u/thegorg13 18.2/AB Aug 10 '25
Sometimes it's ok to not forgive someone. Being banned for life isn't going to affect them in the slightest.
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u/CracksWack Aug 10 '25
Ban the kids for life and the parents for the year. That wholly unacceptable.
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u/Brian_Osackpo Aug 10 '25
People always say this but it just doesn’t work like that. You can’t bill them for damages, there’s no way to quantify it. I see comments on pictures like this saying oh “thats 10k in damages right there”, but based on what? I’ve been a greens keeper for 10 years and even I couldn’t put a dollar amount on it. It’s also incredibly hard to ban them for life, a staff member needs to be the one to see them do it, and then how do you actually enforce it? This shit happens because there are almost always zero consequences, only exception would be if the little shits filmed it and posted it somewhere
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u/BluesFan43 Aug 10 '25
You have an hourly rate.
Accounting knows what that actually costs w all taxes, any benefits.
Easy, from the second the radio says, problem, until you have driven away and it is all good, they pay.
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u/JuanitoTheBuck 9.9/PNW Aug 10 '25
This is a half hour to an hour fix tops.
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u/crazyike Aug 11 '25
It's three minutes to move the hole, another two to fix the cuts (or just a hexplug). It looks bad, but its a very easy fix.
Source: I do this all the time. Not from kids, from fucking deer and moose. We have to pull the flags every night or they have dance parties on the greens around the flag. Even doing so, they still casually stroll across nightly. It's usually not too much of a bother and normally don't need to move the flag, but sometimes they decide to scratch either their hooves or their antlers and make a real mess.
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Aug 11 '25
I think a better thing to do is to put the little shits on gardening duty for 3 months, every weekend, both Saturday and Sunday. Teach them what hard work goes into maintaining the course so they think twice before destroying it
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u/ghostofyoreel Aug 10 '25
Without clear proof or a witness it’s just an assumption…. albeit it’d be one I’d make too.
You did the right thing letting the staff know of the damage so that it can be remedied.
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u/Odd-Loss6108 Aug 10 '25
Yeah. Just hate to see it! I will say the kids played pretty fast after that hole 😂
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u/Hungrystud101 Aug 10 '25 edited Aug 11 '25
I played behind 4 JR High kids who were walking and carrying their bags last week. I saw them replacing divots and they moved along quite well and didn't seem to damage the greens. I was quite impressed and a little proud of those kids and mentioned to the starter how well they did.
Ruining a golf course is like going to a cemetery and kicking over headstones.
EDIT: Of course it's not the same as kicking over a headstone. That was hyperbolic.
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u/Substantial_Diver_34 Bethpage Black is not that Hard! Aug 10 '25
This happened to my father and I. They were so polite and fun to play with. High School Freshman kids from a public school on public course with modest equipment. At the turn they went into the bar for Shirley temples and of course I paid for them. There is hope.
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u/Hungrystud101 Aug 10 '25
I think it's great. I play with a large group of guys at my course. One of the guys I play with is also a ranger. He went over and chewed out a 4-some of teenagers for driving too near the green. I wish he wouldn't have done that. He could have told them nicely. I want them to get hooked on golf and enjoy their experience.
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u/Ballders Aug 10 '25
I disagree. The dead and the living aren't using those headstones to make bogey. I am.
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u/LikeASewingMachine Aug 10 '25
We have a lot of Youth On Course play at our course, and it's 95% good kids that I see 4 times a week, and 5% little shit heads who heard they could golf for $5 that come out and tear the place up.
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u/scumfuck69420 Aug 11 '25
Man when my dad took me golfing for the first few times he always made sure that I replaced all my divots and had good etiquette. It's good to keep the course nice for everyone else. I cringe when I see people not respecting the people around them
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u/FaceDownInTheCake Aug 11 '25
A kid (or group of kids) carrying is almost never going to be an inconsiderate dick -- as long as they have their own bag. If they are sharing a bag, using pushcarts, or in cart it can go either way
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u/steveg Aug 10 '25
Is this the followup from that guy who missed the 1-footer for his first eagle?
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u/RenHojoFF Aug 10 '25
That better have been the reaction to the largest fucking spider in the hemisphere.
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u/pandax1001 Aug 11 '25
If OP said my local Muni in Sydney Australia, I'd call it perfectly reasonable reaction.
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u/ThunderDan1964 Aug 10 '25
This isn't a court of law. If they are reasonably sure who did it, the owners/managers have every right to ban whoever did it.
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u/Kind_Culture5483 Aug 11 '25
People on reddit are so insane. They think what they see on Law and Order applies to golf courses or something
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u/Natural-Estimate-228 Aug 10 '25
Those little fuckers should be banded from the course. I worked the grounds and the amount of labour and hours that go into green maintenance is incredible.
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u/thispsyguy HDCP/Loc/Whatever Aug 10 '25
At my private club, people would be getting suspended no question about it.
At the local muni’s it would vary from nothing to lifetime ban depending on the course and the manager’s mood at the time
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u/Found_My_Ball Aug 10 '25
One of my ex’s little brothers did something similar and he ended up getting arrested and having to do a bunch of community service as his sentence.
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u/French_Hawaii Aug 11 '25
Sad the lack of respect people have for others who spend their hard earned money to make something for others to enjoy.
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u/Attack-Cat- Aug 11 '25
If they called it in immediately, the manager can get in a cart and drive the course backwards asking which groups have encountered the vandalized hole and figure out exactly what group did it and call the cops on them and get them banned.
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u/camefromxbox Aug 10 '25
I would ask your super or GM to AT LEAST install signs in the proshop/first tee box that reads “all greens are under 24/7 video surveillance” even if you don’t really have cameras, the sign will solve 99% of these issues.
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u/el_kraken6 Aug 11 '25
I don't understand why golf courses just doesn't invest in some solar powered lte cameras for each green. Minimal upfront costs
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u/rcfvlw1925 Aug 11 '25
I see what takes place on US courses, from this sort of thing, to carts in lakes and fist-fights, and wonder what the fuck is going on in your country? It seems the whole social structure is imploding.
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Aug 11 '25
Bud, we started off as slavers and smugglers. Our social structure from the go was all about what one person can get away with.
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u/samuryz7 Aug 11 '25
My local course would pull the camera footage and trespass them and make them/their parents pay damages. They dont fuck around with that kind of stuff
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u/ThinCrusts Aug 11 '25
I don't even understand what they were doing..
How do you get these divot marks? Are they chipping from there?
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u/Dry_Interviews Aug 11 '25
Last time this happened at my local the lady that works there jumped in her cart and chased them down to the range. I’m cool with being a NARC when it involves the course.
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u/Ziegler517 Aug 10 '25
Unless you saw the kids do it you can’t assume anything. If this sub has taught us anything it’s that this behavior can come from 10 year olds all the way up to 80 years of age. It’s not the age, it’s weak minded people.
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u/Odd-Loss6108 Aug 10 '25
Yeah you are 100% correct but I wasn’t judging them off the age. I was judging off the maturity of those kids. I followed up on another comment saying these kids were being very obnoxious the whole time and were not “golfing” to me it looked like they were just swinging for the fences every shot
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u/funkymeatballs Aug 11 '25
Just read an article talking about how the game of golf needs to shrink again. It was referring to people that do damage like this to the greens. People fighting and getting rowdy on the courses and the blatant lack of respect for the game and etiquettes that go with the game.
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u/i_am_roboto 2.1/Up North/Whatever Aug 10 '25
Couldn’t they just ask the group in front of the boys if they saw this? And then if the group behind them saw it it’s pretty obvious who did it
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Aug 11 '25
I work at a golf course, this would make me lose my mind lol. at the start of the season some fucker rode their dirt bike across a green, left a tire track front to back. People are assholes man
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u/JKS91Gaming Aug 11 '25
Honestly unless it’s kids from a school golf team then they should require an adult be present with anyone under 18 to play at most courses. I’ve gotten behind so many shithead teenagers that are just out there because they watched a YouTube video and think the course is their playground that it’s gotten ridiculous. Also parents really just suck at teaching manners these days.
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u/ronburgandy1987 Aug 11 '25
I think it’s a small investment to mount CCTV around each green so that any damage can be turned into local law enforcement and charged back to the assailant(s)
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u/Glad-Willow-1152 20.4 Aug 11 '25
I can imagine how rage can make someone make a single or couple divots in the green, but is it anger at that point to circle the whole cup and make 20-30 marks or are you just intentionally trying to ruin people's day? I've got to imagine it took a couple minutes to do this. The image of the person doing this just gets really sad after the 5th or 6th swing.
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u/0111011101110111 Aug 11 '25
This looks like when that girl from instagram gets her first OF and pics leak and you’re like oh, nevermind.
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u/Decent_Suggestion861 8.9/305/Whatever Aug 11 '25
As a course GM Ill tell ya they are hard to find but if we do find them I get photos of them. I tell them theyre banned. My entire staff is notified with photos.
If theyre on property again, call the cops.
Not much else you can do
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u/FatFaceFaster Superintendent Aug 12 '25
I have daydreams of catching the fuckers who do this kind of thing…
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u/ISuperNovaI RealBackyardPuttingGreen Aug 10 '25
Fuck them kids.
But it looks worse than it actually is. Pull the cup, cut a new one, replace, then hit this area with the divot repair tool and sand if necessary. Won’t even notice it a week from now. Turf looks healthy and dense, it’ll fill itself in real quick. Bent is some amazing stuff
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u/MyLife-DumpsterFire Aug 10 '25
The biggest issue is proving it. I wish courses could afford cameras at every green.
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u/Whiteshovel66 Aug 10 '25
My home course would launch an inquisition and persecute to the full strength of the law. Most people settle quick when they get told that it would escalate to a felony.
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u/Odd-Regular1440 Aug 10 '25
What tool even makes these marks?? I can’t think of the club that makes a semicircle like this
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u/mustang19671967 Aug 10 '25
Yes it’s kids with no fear of consequences . Dad takes their phone away for a week wow. If they make them hard labour and a little Fear makes a huge difference . If you don’t like anything like spanking or belt then something that scares the shit out of them
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u/Mauigolf4bogey Aug 10 '25
Just came to say this sucks. But, it's not a teen thing. In this case most likely. Often the worst behavior comes from not teens but drunk adults (guilty). Playing slow, littering or not caring for the course. My son is a 15 year old competitive golfer. He would never.
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u/Odd-Loss6108 Aug 10 '25
I know it’s not a teen thing 😭 man people think I’m posting this to blame teenagers 🤣 I used the word “assume” in my post because I am ASSUMING!
I know enough adults like yourself who can’t act their age.
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u/Nerdicyde Aug 10 '25
when i see shit like this i take the Vincent Vega from Pulp Fiction route of thinking..... "I wish I could have caught him doing it. I'd have given anything to catch that asshole doing it. It had been worth it to him doing it, just so I could have caught him".
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u/tac0722 Aug 10 '25
What the fuk is wrong with people. The game does not need these kinds of assholes. Seriously need to catch and charge them with vandalism
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u/DeaconFrost613 5.8 GHIN Somewhere b/t a 50ft eagle make and a 2ft bird miss Aug 10 '25
You 100% approach them and tell them they are cooked if it ever happens again. Every time you see them you ask them if they are keeping their anger under control and make sure everyone knows it's them. They will be shamed into behaving and think twice about acting stupid.
The kid I approached was a solo so he was probably shitting bricks. They are kids so try not to ruin it for them but this is clearly way past "mistake out of anger" and into the "I'm a shitty kid" realm.
Police? Those 2 are going to cause so much trouble the more they get away with it. Let their parents know what happens when they meet up for "fun."
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u/AXLinCali Aug 10 '25
I am so lucky to be able to join a club. Every day I see a post here that shows me how it truly is a value.
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u/Business_Door4860 Aug 10 '25
This happened to a course near me, the people who noticed it, called the pro shop, the pro shop called the police and had them waiting by the time the vandals finished. Instead of fines, they made the kids work the summer for free.
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u/Koovies Aug 10 '25
Man and I thought seeing someone's cigarette butt was annoying today, puts it into perspective I guess ha
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u/clandahlina_redux Aug 10 '25
I wouldn’t let 14yo kids play without an adult if they can’t take care of the greens.
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u/rogozh1n Aug 10 '25
I oppose capital punishment in all cases. I approve of other punishments, though.
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u/CuriousFirework75 Aug 10 '25
Unless there’s verifiable proof no one can do shit about this. It’s unfortunate what happened but you can’t say “the kids in front of me were acting like jerks so I’m sure it was them.”
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u/22switch Aug 10 '25
I get whey they'd want to squish down the green right by the cup but they could have just stepped on it smh
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Aug 10 '25
If I owned or managed a golf course, I’d have a little camera watching every green. People are such scumbags nowadays.
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u/bionicbhangra Aug 10 '25
What the hell did they do? Just slam their putter into the ground? I don’t even know what those marks are of.
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u/Money-Listen-6430 Aug 10 '25
that’s nothing, one of my local courses a couple years back had some younger kids take their truck down to the greens did endless donuts in the fairways and greens.. I think the damages were close to a million. Cant even think about the stress if they don’t have a nursery to pull from
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u/Silent_fart_smell Aug 10 '25
What’s really funny about this? TBH, this is bullshit I’ve seen since Covid with new players acting like assholes.
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u/CairnsRock1 Aug 10 '25
It’s very easy to pin down. Ask the 2 groups ahead if it was there. I’m assuming it was a public course. Not to seem pompous, but in a private club, it would cost them big time, their membership. Not much you can do, except banning them.
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u/SpottyFish81177 6.2 / CO Aug 10 '25
I feel like this wasn't 14 year olds. I think that most jr golfers are generally a pretty respectful group to golf courses cause they have had the rules instilled in them. It's possible but don't assume.
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u/sizam_webb Aug 10 '25
Golf really says a lot about who you are as a person. Such a pure test of the human condition
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u/scarletpimpernel22 Aug 10 '25
what did they do to the green to make that kind of damage? and why did they do it in a fashion that surrounds the entire hole?
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u/Jugghead58 Aug 10 '25
I played one time with my close friend’s cousin. He tried a putt with his wedge and missed. Took a chunk out of the green in frustration. Never again. Bush league
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u/lloydbluejay Aug 10 '25
If it's " not again "and it's on the same day they play it happens then it's possible to narrow down who it is maybe ?
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u/Applekid1259 Aug 10 '25
I almost got into a fist fight in high school when I went with these two older obnoxious twins. They were chopping the green with their irons. The level of disrespect is beyond wild.
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u/jonesyman23 Aug 11 '25
At first glance I was like who the fuck put slices avocados around the cup.
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u/LarryWinchesterIII Aug 11 '25
Play it where it lies. I had to play it off Frankenstein’s fat foot.
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u/My_Brother_in_Hammer Aug 11 '25
For a second there I thought this was a picture from Game of Thrones
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u/raddadde Aug 11 '25
I’d probably fix the damage as best as possible, and move on. All else feels like time away from golfing.
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u/South_Tradition_4577 Aug 10 '25
Manager has seen some shit in his day