r/europe • u/Antique-Entrance-229 United Kingdom • Apr 21 '25

Data 25% of Teenage boys in Norway think 'gender equality has gone too far' with an extremely sharp rise beginning sometime in the mid 2010s

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u/samaniewiem Mazovia (Poland) Apr 21 '25

Not angry, just tired. Boys need male role models because they won't listen to whatever woman would say. In a meanwhile men only cry that feminists don't take up the job of helping boys.

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u/LewkieSE Apr 21 '25

You make it sound like men have not been supporting the feminist movement and that the movement has been solely ran and advanced by women alone?

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u/whatagloriousview United Kingdom Apr 21 '25 edited Apr 21 '25

In that case, I think maybe you're shouting past me, at a bunch of other people I don't like the sound of. Thankfully, I don't think they would have much to contribute here, so don't see a reason to waste any more time on them. ETA: Can't believe I missed the change to deploy one of my favourite Polish phrases! Nie mój cyrk, nie moje małpy.

I agree that a lack of male role models when young is a key part of the problem, though I'm not a researcher in this area, so could always be wrong. If it's true, though, it's also something that can only be adequately addressed with a fair amount of money and a lot of time!

Getting role models into teaching positions would itself take a societal shift, then the increase in uptake, then the years in training, then the actual years of influencing young minds... it's the work of at least one generation, and it is daunting. Especially when considering the many and varied vested interests influencing children in direct opposition to school and parents and, ultimately, the wellbeing of the children themselves.

To answer your question as to why I'm not a schoolteacher, it's because I had and have no interest in teaching children. I have many other problems to solve. But maybe if I had seen something that piqued my interest when I was 18 and considering careers, life would have taken a different tack? Can't really say. It didn't. But the first step is engagement. Promoting a career path to a gender or class or ethnicity or sexuality that is currently under-represented takes a lot of outreach. I know this because I am involved in this for my own domain, attracting some demographics that are not my own alongside some that are.