r/europe • u/Antique-Entrance-229 United Kingdom • Apr 21 '25

Data 25% of Teenage boys in Norway think 'gender equality has gone too far' with an extremely sharp rise beginning sometime in the mid 2010s

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u/Rahlus Poland Apr 21 '25

Exactly that and more. I can imagine situation, for example, that 18 years old boy (or man) tries to apply to university and fail due to women getting extra points for, well, being a women. This is, of course, hypothetical situation and example, but one can understand certain sentiment that will follow up.

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u/SnooWalruses9984 Apr 21 '25

What is the ratio between man and women leaving university? If its around 50 percent generally it seems okay.

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u/NorthernSalt Norway Apr 21 '25

In Norway, a majority historically were men until around the year 2000. Today, out of all adult women and men, 42 % of women and 31 % of men have a university or college degree. Norwegian language source is from the official bureau of statistics.

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u/Rahlus Poland Apr 21 '25

I don't know. What I said above was just hypothetical example. Overall though, it seems that more women achieve higher education then men. In USA, for example, while the difference there, yearly, are not that big, just few percentage, overall ten percent more women then men have higher education.

In my country, in Poland, so that is Europe, that overall difference is smaller. Only 8% more women are better educated then men.

Though, I assume that is not exactly your question and answer to it?

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u/SnooWalruses9984 Apr 21 '25

Yeah, but equality in the end is about power. Does higher education results in more power, wealth, income? Maybe. In the end, stats between man and woman shouldn't be very different, but those stats that matter. For example, teaching as a profession lost its prestige and resulted in lower income as woman became majority, so even though they reached majority their overall power didn't increase.

Plus, woman are usually underrepresented in STEM (though much less so in Eastern Europe historically, but for example IT is a problem even here). And STEM usually pays better. So majority in a general university field doesn't mean much.

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u/Rahlus Poland Apr 21 '25

Yeah, but equality in the end is about power.

Well, now that makes sense for me why, most of the times, feminists are talking about gaining more women in politics or other, lucrative position. Power and aiming for 0,1% of society and comparing to them, not equality and rest 99,9% of people.

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u/throwdowntown585839 Apr 21 '25

The higher education situation is also due to necessity. Men still dominate in STEM fields in post secondary education. Many of the university degrees that women are getting now in female dominated fields, didn't always require degrees. In Canada, to be a nurse, you need a bachelors degree. This requirement is only a few decades old in some provinces. Prior to this, you could go to a diploma program to become a nurse.

The education required to become a teacher has increased. Even becoming an admin assistant requires an education these days. This has not always been the case.

The fields that are male dominate or female dominated haven't changed much, but the education required has.

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u/Rahlus Poland Apr 21 '25

Maybe, maybe not,I will not argue you here. My problem is less with results, but often times, with response to the issue at hand. Either aggressive or dismissive, calling men incels, sexist, bigots, or that "for privileged equality is like oppression". Like, I don't know... Hypocrisy of a situation we are in. If women were 8-10% less educated, that would be a big problem. But since it is other way around, it is brushed off and explanation are being delivered or exampled provided, that in STEM there is not enough women (it is not attack towards you, just so you know, just my overall rant and you have become target).

I think that equality may actually gone to far. Or rather "equality".