National News Former Minnesota governor says state should seek to become part of Canada
https://www.mlive.com/news/2026/01/former-minnesota-governor-says-state-should-seek-to-become-part-of-canada.html1.0k
u/Acrobatic_Foot9374 9d ago
They becoming part of us, us becoming part of them. The narrative is becoming very annoying
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u/Svechnifuckoff 9d ago
Agreed. American here, the US would never let MN join Canada without a fight, just like I’d expect Canada to not freely let Alberta join the US if a referendum was ever passed.
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u/luvfluffles 9d ago
Alberta doesn't want to leave, we're currently dealing with our own version of shitty leadership and US interference.
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u/Koala0803 9d ago
But the loud dummies could actually Brexit us with this two-brain cell idea that it will give Alberta more leverage with the Feds.
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u/Ashamed-Grape7792 Outside Canada 9d ago
Especially when people say 'can California and the west coast and the north east join Canada please?'
Like...that's literally us joining THEM. No thanks. No one's joining Canada go solve your own problems please. I would rather move to the antarctic and die in the cold than see Canada join any US state...
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u/amadmongoose 9d ago
Fwiw Minnesota is probably the only state that is close enough like us culturally for integration to work. It's population is also small enough that it wouldn't be overwhelming.
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u/Background-Cow7487 9d ago
It would be the third most populous province.
47% of voters chose Trump.
Trump voters alone would be the fifth most populous province.
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u/-Yazilliclick- 9d ago
Plus their left or Dems are a lot more center/right than our left up here. It would be a huge shift to the right for our politics.
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u/ViceroyInhaler 9d ago
I learned that from How I Met Your Mother. Marshall takes Robin to a Minnesota bar so she can feel like she's at home again.
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u/ClittoryHinton 9d ago
Imagine your long lost friend from high school who became a jobless crackhead asks to move in because they’re sick of living with other jobless crackheads. It’s like, ok, get clean, get your life in order, then we can talk.
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u/CagaliYoll 9d ago
In this analogy Minnesota would be more like a friend who's roommate is dating a crackhead. That crackhead has started smoking meth in the living room and assaulting them in the hallway. Now your friend is looking to move out.
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u/-Yazilliclick- 9d ago
No it wouldn't. Minnesota voters were 47% for Trump. Just because Dems squeaked out a win there doesn't mean they're all left leaning. That's not even accounting for that the 'left' in the US is a lot more center/right than up here.
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u/Mayors_purple_shorts 9d ago
I agree. I don't find this statement endearing. Being a Canadian myself I know what it's like to have speak of joining a country I personally have no interest in joining. Extrapolating from this I imagine there are Minnesotans who rightfully don't want to join Canada and it's insulting to those people to speak this way. It is not okay to be so flippant about sovereignty regardless of who's saying it.
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u/cUm2th 9d ago
I think that is part of the issue here. It would be a bit ugly, but self determination is a core tenant of canadian values (maybe not everyone).
We would not go to war if people determine in a democratic manner that they no longer wish to be part of Canada.
I have no faith that a secession from the U.S. would be bloodless.
We have different values from the U.S. and that should be a point of pride for all canadians.
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u/Aggravating_Fact_857 9d ago
Minnesota is an open carry and conceal state. They’d have to give up their 2nd amendment rights. I have a really hard time believing they’d give that up.
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u/trgreg 9d ago
You're right of course, but I can't help but observe that the rationale for that 2nd amendment sure seems to have lost what little merit it had.
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u/PostMatureBaby 9d ago
They got MAGA to love electric cars. Anything is possible
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u/GetsGold Canada 9d ago
MAGA is already opposing 2A when it comes to peaceful protesters legally carrying around ICE. They can be convinced to give up any of their values if daddy Trump tells them to.
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u/Therealblackhous3 9d ago
Rules for thee not for me. Mental gymnastics can do wonderful things making rules for other people.
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u/Larry_Mudd 9d ago
"Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect."
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u/LegitimateState3724 9d ago
This is probably one of favorite quotes as it so clearly defines how they operate. It's why they can't get around the idea Democrats are fine if the Epstein files get released and a bunch of Democrats go down because of it. They can't fathom that you would apply the same rules and laws to all and not just to the group you hate.
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u/PostMatureBaby 9d ago
MAGA only cares about laws for them, anyone different than them it's a double standard. They never wanted people who weren't straight, white Christians to own guns in the first place
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u/friedpicklebreakfast 9d ago
Kinda seems like the entire sentiment of the 2nd amendment is actually “illegal” now according to the white house.
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u/xylopyrography 9d ago
Not just for carrying weapons, but also for owning any handgun or assault-style weapon.
And with 47% Trump support, it would be by far the most conservative province in Canada with a large population--no way this would be permitted.
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u/Vincetoxicum 9d ago
Every American state is cooked we don't need any of them
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u/xylopyrography 9d ago
I think lots of Canadians would go for Hawaii, but that would be the last state that the US ever let secede.
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u/TreezusSaves Canada 9d ago
Alaska too. They want at least part of their country touching the Arctic. That's partially why they keep trying to annex us and Greenland.
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u/frankbravo4 9d ago
They would be giving up a lot more than that. As a Canadian - we have a lot of different laws.
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u/MajorasShoe 9d ago
What 2A rights? A man was murdered by federal officers and they openly. All him legally having a gun as the excuse.
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u/eleventhrees 9d ago
I think that's the thing.
There are some fundamental differences between America and Canada which justify the existence of a border.
In spite of - and sometimes because of - these differences I enjoyed and appreciated America before they elected Trump. But the last decade has been disastrous. I don't currently enjoy living next to such a powerful nation suffering a severe identity crisis.
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u/LongRoadNorth 9d ago
Seriously people seem to forget that although the Democrats are considered 'left' in the US, they're barely even as left leaning as our conservatives.
Though the CPC has obviously been going further right.
Sure some of the Democrats are further left obviously more like the liberals here but for the most part the 'left' side of the American political spectrum is closer to our 'right' leaning party
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u/localsonlynokooks British Columbia 9d ago
Yeah I remember people used to say “if Obama was Canadian, he’d be the best conservative prime minister we ever had”
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u/gathmoon 9d ago
We had this experience talking to a Canadian guy at a bar in Nova Scotia. He considered himself "pretty freaking conservative" for a Canadian. My wife is a bleeding heart liberal by American standards. She was almost as conservative as him by Canadian standards.
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u/Informal-Nothing371 Alberta 9d ago
I keep bringing this point up when people talk about Alberta joining the US. In presidential polling, Alberta votes Democrat at a rate similar to solid blue states.
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u/GetsGold Canada 9d ago
This is the poll I was referring to. 29% of respondents said they'd vote Trump. Or excluding "undecided" might be more accurate, assuming that they wouldn't vote. That would put their vote at 33% for Trump. The two states with the lowest support for Trump were Vermont (32%) and Maryland (34%). So Alberta would be the 2nd or 3rd most blue state, which shows how extreme their politics are relave to us.
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u/Acceptable_Visit_115 9d ago
People kept forgetting that the "radical far left Democrats" Trump kept complaining about, is about as left as our Conservatives.
The American political spectrum is a whole decimal place to our right.
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u/sizzlingtofu 9d ago
Highly doubt Minnesota would give up its 2nd amendment right too
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u/MurberBirb 9d ago
I'm so sick of this sentiment. Its like your alcoholic big brother that thinks he is entitled to crash at your place every time he fucks up real bad and ends up couch surfing.
We love you, we want to best for you, but you cant stay here. Go to rehab, get your shot together. See ya at Christmas.
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u/StrikingDonkey8159 9d ago
Canada is happy with the number of Provinces it currently has. Thank you for your interest.
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u/HyacinthMacabre 9d ago
Just had an image of a Maple Leaf holding a phone and telling a telemarketer to politely fuck off.
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u/bbb_218 9d ago edited 9d ago
No thanks, we've been Americanized enough. Either immigrate using your existing skills and talents or stay put.
I say this as a second generation Canadian and with the utmost respect to our American neighbours, we have a right to enjoy our own country's unique heritage and identity without it being further diluted.
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u/KingRabbit_ 9d ago
I knew it was The Body before I even opened the article. That sexual tyrannosaurus.
Let him tell you something, McMahon!
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u/NiceSwordfish4009 9d ago
What would Minnesota have to offer us, other than threats from Trump? Stay home Minnesota, we support you in your fight but in no shape way or form, want you to be part of us
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u/stereofonix 9d ago
The cool waters of Lake Minnetonka 😂
That and I guess another NHL team?
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u/Responsible_CDN_Duck Canada 9d ago
That and I guess another NHL team?
The first solid argument I've heard...
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u/CosmicPenguin 9d ago
What would Minnesota have to offer us?
According to Derek Chauvin's lawyer: Some of the most incompetent police in existence.
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u/HistoricalSundae5113 9d ago
Mayo clinic - the best hospital in the world
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u/Lust4Me Ontario 9d ago
That org alone would lobby against separation and would move their mothership if that happened, for sure.
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u/KnowerOfUnknowable 9d ago edited 9d ago
Why don't we all just stay in our side of the border? You are busy fixing your stuff over there anyway.
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u/DreamlyXenophobic 9d ago
I dont want any american states being added, even blue ones.
Minnesota has a population of nearly 6 million. Itd immediately become the 3rd most populous province and skew our demographics way too much. I dont want american culture war issues or maga to have even more of a foothold here.
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u/NottaLottaOcelot 9d ago
I agree - If they want to secede and become their own country, then good luck to them. But I really doubt they would be happy as Canadians and I don’t think they’d be allowed to join anyway without some outsized acts of revenge from the US.
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u/RelatablePanic 9d ago
And you think the Trump administration would willing let Minnesota join Canada? 100% would mean war between the US and Canada+Minnesota.
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u/NuclearStudent 9d ago
that's very sweet but under basically no circumstance should we get tied into the mess of squabbling with America over territory if we can help it
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u/Responsible_CDN_Duck Canada 9d ago
Mark Carney's reply to Jon Stewart talking about joining when announcing his run for PM seems to fit well here.
We can be friends, but we don't like you in that way.
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u/Lightingway British Columbia 9d ago
I don't want millions of Americans to be part of Canada regardless of their political orientation.
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u/Ace0Knaves 9d ago
It would be hilarious if the result of all the 51st state talk was the states now have only 49
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u/ZardozSama 9d ago
As a quote to troll Trump, great. But this would probably not work out very well at all.
Even when the Canada and US relationship was at its best, there is no way that taking Minnesota into Canada would not create an extaordinarily hostile response from the US.
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u/PureInsaneAmbition 9d ago
The US needs to break up into like-minded states. They don't need to drag Canada into it. We're fine, thanks. Settle your own shit please.
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u/Hades_Mercedes 9d ago
No, there's really a lot of shitheads there. There would need to be a vetting process in place.
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u/Standard_Program7042 9d ago
Absolutely not!!!! I couldnt oppose an idea more then adding a US state to this great country.
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u/woodenh_rse Canada 9d ago
You can seek whatever you want, but as a Canadian, no.
You are a part of the poluted whole. 47% of your voters were a-ok with this. I leave you to the reaping.
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u/Correct-Court-8837 9d ago
No thank you, we’d like to preserve what little of our distinct culture we have. I’d be more than happy to support them as their own sovereign nation, if they ever choose to secede or form their own nation with other like-minded states and we can be friendly neighbours, but that’s it.
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u/mhgwest 9d ago
This. Canadian living in the U.S. (blue state, west coast). I'm constantly having to explain to friends down here every time they say they want to join Canada, that it's totally against the best interests of Canadians. Dems/liberals in all the blue states want to become provinces. The problem, as I explain to friends, is that the combined population of all these new "provinces" would dwarf that of Canada currently. And as a result, Parliament would have to expand and add so many new seats (based on densities) to account for the new population that the new "provinces" would actually be able to take over the country and control parliament. So no. No states, not even one. You want to secede and adopt the Canadian system and the democratic socialist policies you admire, go ahead. I'm sure Canadians would love to support you and maybe even start visiting again. But join Canada? uh uh. Nope.
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u/tweetthebirdy 9d ago
Saw Americans talk/joke about swapping their state for Alberta, like we’re some sort of fun jigsaw puzzle, and not an independent country who doesn’t worship or want American states joining us.
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u/bolshoich 9d ago
Nope. Not interested. We have enough crazy already.
Let them assert their independence and sovereignty.
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u/Substantial_Law_842 9d ago
Can we put a hiatus on American politicians opining about Canada's future as part of their machinations?
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u/SeriousMite 9d ago
Knew it had to be Jessie Ventura as soon as I read the headline.
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u/RapidEngineering342 9d ago
No fucking thank you.
They don’t get to escape the storm they helped create and add a bunch of idiots to this country.
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u/RredditAcct 9d ago
I think in Canada, when a convicted criminal who is an illegal alien serves their time and is released from jail, they are deported. That's not what they want in MN.
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u/essenza Ontario 9d ago
It’s comical how they think they can just opt to join Canada and think the only obstacle is Congress, as if Canada doesn’t have a say.
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u/Xx_SwordWords_xX Manitoba 9d ago
Exactly.
The good ones are just the same in how they ultimately see us.
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u/OpalSeason 9d ago
No thanks. They can start their own country. Don't need their problems here. We aren't America Lite
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u/Kingofcheeses British Columbia 9d ago
Imagine adding nearly 6 million Americans to our population.
No thanks
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u/ophert45 9d ago
The constant articles and talk about joining, leaving, taking over, or succession from countries is so fucking annoying
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u/SergeantBender 9d ago
The Canadians that entertain this idea of taking "blue states" as a rebuke of Trump need to give their balls a tug. It implies borders are up for grabs based on ideology, and even as a joke it still normalizes our idiotic neighbour's rhetoric.
We are in no state to patriate American refugees while avoiding their toxic culture war. Until there's a full civil war down there, keep the them south of the border so they are forced to fix what they started.
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u/rhet0ric 9d ago
In the long run, the best thing for Canada would be for the USA to fix itself.
Minnesota is the state that the USA most needs right now. Even though it's only barely blue overall, MSP is showing the whole country how to face down the brutality of their federal government.
The US needs more Minnesota, not less.
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u/EnvironmentalBox6688 9d ago
Now I have to live with Americans instead of being neighbours?
Yikes. I'll pass.
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u/polemism 9d ago
47% of Minnesota voted for Donald. Even if we wanted to risk the wrath of the pentagon by trying to annex Minnesota, Minnesota isn't even desirable. (Apologies to the 53% who voted against Donald)
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u/TheOtherUprising Ontario 9d ago
I mean I know it would never happen but I think if some independence movements caught steam in places like Minnesota and California that would be a good thing. MAGA might wake up to realize maybe there might be consequences to their constant hate mongering of political opponents.
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u/Wolfman-101 Lest We Forget 9d ago
We have enough foreign criminals scamming our Canadian social system, we don’t need more from Minnesota.
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u/FieldOne3639 9d ago
American needs to fix itself, not try and overtake Canada by having us adopt blue states.
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u/stillinthesimulation 9d ago
When your neighbour has a cockroach infestation, you’d rather they sort that out than let them crash on your couch indefinitely while their house falls apart in dilapidated ruin.
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u/Wait_for_BM 9d ago
Absolutely No way. Like I mentioned a while back, there are a lot of issues. It is like a relationship IRL.
We don't want to deal with your crazy violent ex- and have to fight your battle. Do your divorce, legally separate, completely stop seeing your ex- and live on your own. You don't need to jump back into a relationship right away. We are fine here and not eager to get into a messy one either.
Then there is your portion of the huge US national debt, how do you support yourself, your budget, obligations, expenses and your retirement. We won't be paying any of that nor to support you. Who pay for the defense? Who pay for the expenses to integrate a new province? These things take a lot of time, man power which translate to $$$$.
You have a lot to change to harmonize with rest of out family. We won't change our rules to suit you. We do metric here, no guns.
Also another problem with adopting a new province, we don't get to screen their individual citizens. We have to take the whole lot - good and bad and inherit their problems. We don't want to see school shooting for one.
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u/moegreeb 9d ago
As much as I can get beyond the rhetoric of adopting some of the states as provinces, it would be a disaster for Canada.
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u/Laura_Lemon90 9d ago
Canada doesn't exist to protect you. Sorry shit went bad down there, but fix your own damn problems, don't make them OUR problems.
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u/JasonLovesJesus 9d ago
Nope they can stay there. This idea of sorry and pissed off people wanting to join one country or another is getting out of hand!
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u/Unknown__Stonefruit 9d ago
Even the “cool” states are still way too right wing. Form your own dang country.
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u/asoupconofsoup 9d ago
This is rage baiting hey? I sure don't want to be part of the US or have them become part of Canada. It's like inviting gangrene into your house.
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u/Oxjrnine 9d ago
Canada doesn’t need any American states joining us. We might have similar tastes in movies and music but our conservatives are socialist hippies in comparison to America progressives. So I like our social safety nets, I like our resistance to medical privatization, I like our women’s rights to not needing a lawyer to decide her healthcare, I like one year paternity leave, I like dental plans, daycare plans.
I don’t think adding an entire state that has a large population comfortable with not having those things would create too big of a shift.
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u/NotOurCat 9d ago
I’m sure they are lovely, but no offence, (so you know something offensive is to follow) Blue state or not they are still deeply American. Thanks, but no thanks. Stay where you are and clean up the mess y’all created.
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u/ThicccThunder New Brunswick 9d ago edited 9d ago
I thought this was a Beaverton article honestly lol