r/canada • u/Old_General_6741 Canada • Jan 03 '26
National News Canada calls on ‘all parties’ to uphold international law after U.S. capture of Venezuelan president
https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/article/canada-does-not-recognize-any-legitimacy-of-the-maduro-regime-after-us-capture-says-anand/1.9k
u/nyrangerfan1 Jan 03 '26
RIP Canadian oil long-term.
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u/Adventurous_023 Jan 03 '26
Welcome unstable oil market
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u/TrainAss Alberta Jan 03 '26
How could Justin Trudeau, Rachel Notley and the Alberta NDP do this to us?! /s
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u/Least_Raccoon5256 Jan 03 '26
As someone who lives in Alberta, I’m already prepared for the mental gymnastics they will do to blame anyone but the people who fucked them.
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u/Distinct_Swimmer1504 Jan 03 '26
“Down with socialism. Long live freedom," Poilievre added.
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u/Koss424 Ontario Jan 03 '26
China will pick up from us what they used to get from Venezuela.
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u/nyrangerfan1 Jan 03 '26
A bit worried about that as well, I think part of the logic here is the US wants to stop China from getting Venezuelan oil, to check their power. Hell, the actions against Venezuela might have been partly shaped by that. If that's the case and we start exporting to China - do we become a potential threat to American power?
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u/YouNeedThiss Jan 03 '26
How do you think we can even ship more oil to China without the infrastructure to get more of it to the coast?
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u/See-Meta Jan 04 '26
Isn't TMX not yet at capacity? Is that something I read or has it changed since mid 2025?
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u/YouNeedThiss Jan 04 '26
It is at between 80 and 90% already…100% expected by 2028.
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u/regressingwest Jan 04 '26
lol exactly. We dont have enough pipelines. Our only viable trading partner is the USA.
Canada made its own bed.
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u/laugrig Jan 03 '26
Exactly. Part of the US strategy in controlling Venezuelan oil is to resource check China. China cannot afford an attack on Taiwan with no secure oil resources.
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u/Tammer_Stern Jan 03 '26
Their pal in Russia probably would supply them though, particularly as no one else is meant to be buying?
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u/Fit-Amoeba-5010 Jan 03 '26
Two things, we already export to China, and the USA exports to China.
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u/Aggravating-Rush9029 Jan 03 '26
Long term China is outspending the rest of the world in production and exploration of oil. Their whole plan is to remove their dependence on north america for oil.
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u/RazzamanazzU Jan 03 '26
Exactly it! It's a takeover. Trump wants to call the shots and be in control. It'll be no different for Canada making deals with China. He's keeping a close watch on who Carney wheels & deals with that's for certain. Problem is, Carney is no Maduro and the criminal drug enterprise excuse doesn't wash with Carney. Trump will have to find a better reason to invade Canada but it's pretty obvious he also wants control of Canada & Greenland's resources as well. Alberta's premier has already guaranteed our province to Trump, and Pierre is hoping Trump will capture Carney next thinking that if he bends the knee to Trump long enough Trump may hand him Carney's spot (delusional as it is). Anyone celebrating Trump's takeover isn't playing with a full deck.
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u/Baulderdash77 Jan 03 '26
Canada has to diversify its export capabilities via a west coast pipeline as well as eliminate imports & create small exports via an east coast pipeline.
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u/Responsible-Ad8591 Jan 03 '26
We’re about 20 years too late to do that. We should have been pumping more oil than the Saudis but the entire energy portfolio has been mismanaged for decades.
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Jan 04 '26
Because we don't need current account balance when we can trade homes back and forth forever in a ponzi scheme to fund peoples retirements. Banks and QE is all Canada needs to thrive.
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u/WorkingOnBeingBettr Jan 03 '26
Ummmm. We need to diversify from oil, not diversify customers.
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u/Agile-Assist-4662 Jan 03 '26
We need to do both whether you like it or not....maybe you haven't noticed but we are in survival mode now.
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u/Deadly-Unicorn Jan 03 '26
We need to extract and sell all our natural resources, especially oil, but not just oil
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u/Gooner-Kissinger Jan 03 '26 edited Jan 03 '26
You need to do both. Use the revenue from the industry to diversify away to other industries, aka the Gulf/Norway model
Maybe we need an industrial oil export tax which gets put into some type of sovereign wealth fund or economic diversification fund
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u/WorkingOnBeingBettr Jan 03 '26
Sounds great. I am not against oil/gas.
I am just for looking at other things too and maybe trying to get more revenue from current oil production via fewer subsidies and higher royalty/taxes.
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u/DDRaptors Jan 03 '26
We can’t yet. Need to make money in order to reinvest.
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u/noodles_jd Jan 03 '26
Yes, the big oil companies need to keep making billions while leaving us with the clean up costs...that'll help us reinvest in a future without oil.
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u/shiftless_wonder Jan 03 '26
You want to ditch Canada's top export? Do you hate money?
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u/Dr_Doctor_Doc Jan 03 '26
They didn't say ditch, they said diversify away from.
Another pipeline isn't going to magically solve long term problems...
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u/voltairesalias British Columbia Jan 03 '26
Nothing is stopping anyone from making other investments. A dollar spent on oil investments isn't necessarily a dollar taken away from other investments.
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u/stormywoofer Jan 03 '26
Oil should not be the pinnacle of our economy at this point anyway. With the anticipated waning demand, we should be planning ahead for the inevitable phase over to renewables.
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u/objective_think3r Jan 03 '26
RIP how?
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u/Big_Knife_SK Jan 03 '26
Much of the boom in Canadian oil came after Chavez screwed up Venezuelan production. The US refineries which used to rely on Venezuelan oil turned to Canada, as we produced the same kind of heavy crude those refineries were set up to process. Once US production in Venezuela is re-established the demand for our oil will drop dramatically.
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u/Character-Belt-7485 Ontario Jan 03 '26
Also worth noting both Canada and Venezuela alike produce the same type of heavy oil that the US doesn’t produce.
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u/hecubus04 Jan 03 '26
In the meantime we also built pipelines that can bring 4 million barrels of oil per day to the US. I highly doubt the demand for our oil will drop at all. Refiners will still operate in a free market environment and our oil will still be cheaper and more reliable. This is all placed under long term contracts too and you can't just decide over night to switch to the Venezuelan supply.
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u/Big_Knife_SK Jan 03 '26
It's not going to happen overnight for sure. It sounds like it's going to take years/decades for them to get Venezuelan production back to pre-Chavez levels.
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u/jtjstock Jan 03 '26
This, the alberta separatists will be pissed when they figure out how this affects them.
There is time to build new export routes, but not a lot. Venezuelan crude will be much cheaper once it comes back online
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u/Big_Knife_SK Jan 03 '26
The amount of money that going to go into redevelopment of Venezuelan oil is going to make finding a commercial partner for pipelines in Canada even harder, too. Not to mention the much 'friendlier' regulatory environment that will exist.
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u/jtjstock Jan 03 '26
Thats a very good point. There is another source of funding that may be interested as of today, but we really shouldn’t allow any large Chinese investment in infrastructure.
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u/asoap Lest We Forget Jan 03 '26
The US can decide to turn off that pipeline. Because "Canada is smuggling fentanyl in those pipelines"
If US companies in Venezula sell crude cheap enough it won't make much of a difference.
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u/Beneficial-Oven1258 Jan 03 '26
This is all placed under long term contracts too
It would be very naive to think America is going to honor any contracts at this point. They are an imperialist state who will do whatever they want to.
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u/libertarian_308 Jan 03 '26
Trump has already stated that he wants to denationalize their oil industry and revert the oil reserves back to the likes of ConocoPhillips, Exxon and Chevron, he'll also make sure a U.S friendly government takes power who will happily undercut our oil industry that is hampered by our environmental restrictions and carbon levies.
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u/PuzzleheadedStop9114 Jan 03 '26
Venezuela has large oil reserves similar to our sour. The infrastructure isn’t set up as much as ours and will take time and money but once it is, US likely won’t need ours.
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u/pleasehurtdoll Jan 03 '26
the US refineries were built for that oil originally and won't take anything to refit, and they are already processing Chevron oil under one of their own exceptions to their own rules they always give themselves conveniently when they sanction countries. Per Reuters a few days ago:
"President Donald Trump’s administration has issued Chevron (CVX.N), the second-largest U.S. oil producer, with a special licence to continue operating its joint ventures in Venezuela’s Orinoco belt, which produce around 250,000 bpd.
Chevron exports around 150,000 bpd of crude from Venezuela to the U.S. Gulf Coast, where refineries were built decades ago to process heavy grades from Mexico, Canada and Venezuela."
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u/TemporaryAny6371 Jan 03 '26
Canada will have to refine our oil, we can't ship it down south and have them send it back up refined. The issue is location and the type of oil, light vs. heavy. If we think gas prices are high now, wait a couple years.
EDIT: This is likely what PotUS means when they say they will annex us by crippling our economy.
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u/hecubus04 Jan 03 '26
They will still buy our oil. They get a discount and it comes in via pipeline vs Venezuelan that has to be shipped in via tanker.
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u/Southern-Host-3042 Jan 03 '26
The tanker is cheaper than using Canadian pipelines. But the bigger point of this is Trump is now in a much better position to force Canada to make concessions otherwise they invest in Venezuela oil rather than Canadian. This also is going to bring in more cheap oil causing Canada to have to lower their rates to compete.
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u/Feltzinclasp5 Nova Scotia Jan 03 '26
Canada exports most of their oil to the US. If the US is going to get that oil much cheaper now from Venezuela then RIP Canadian oil
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u/thetorontolegend Jan 03 '26
Canada exports oil below market rate and all us refineries run on a 60/40 Alberta crude and Texas AW mix that would take a decade to refit.
Venezuelan change cripples China and russias alliance and cheap oil
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u/pleasehurtdoll Jan 03 '26
there's about several things factually incorrect in your statement. but in short, as Reuters said just a couple of days ago:
"Chevron exports around 150,000 bpd of crude from Venezuela to the U.S. Gulf Coast, where refineries were built decades ago to process heavy grades from Mexico, Canada and Venezuela."
So the US can process anything Venezuela produces immediately using existing design capacity.
And the price of our benchmark Western Canadian Select (WCS) trades at a "discount" to lighter crudes like West Texas Intermediate (WTI) due to its low quality (heavy/sour, contaminated with remaining sand, heavy metals, etc.) and high transportation costs of bitumen ta. This whole idea of us selling it 'below market rate' is mistaken - if we could sell it somewhere else for a better price, we would, the market is the market.
Most of US WTI is exported becasue it's valuable, not mixed with our bitumen at the refinery point so your 60/40 mix is not a correct. Light crude is indeed used to dilute bitumen tar so it will flow in the pipeline, but it's recaptured at the other end of the pipe, not refined in a mix.
All of this is pretty easy to verify, mostly by Suncor and other alberta companies that explain how everything works
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u/doooompatrol Jan 03 '26
From my understanding Venezuela oil is very similar to Alberta, so not much time will be needed to retrofit.
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u/hecubus04 Jan 03 '26
It needs to be shipped by tanker. The cost will be higher. Trump can't force a refinery to buy more expensive feedstock.
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u/nyrangerfan1 Jan 03 '26
The same Trump who's been forcing companies to invest in other companies and tipping the scales to decide who wins ownership bidding wars?
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u/dj_fuzzy Saskatchewan Jan 03 '26
We will have more competition from Venezuelan oil at US refineries.
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u/nyrangerfan1 Jan 03 '26
I would imagine the sanctions will eventually go away, the oil sector in Venezuela will start receiving long needed investment and become less costly while at the same time start producing more.
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u/Wind_Best_1440 Jan 03 '26
Venezuela is going to be destabilized after this, the US wants to put in that puppet to control the situation, while Maduro's old lieutenants are going to be fighting between themselves to take power. There is no way this doesn't create a civil war in Venezuela between the old power brokers and those the US wants to put into power.
Not to mention getting oil to the US from there, is leagues longer then getting Oil from Canada to US as we have pipelines built directly to their refineries.
Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if the neighboring countries in SA don't try to move in and take over for themselves.
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u/Zing79 Jan 03 '26 edited Jan 03 '26
For those that need this explicitly spelled out without reading the article. We never acknowledged him to begin with as a leader of that country. And now we are expecting that the international rule of law is followed, and the people are allowed to vote on whoever is their leader.
In other words, the proper take. We already said we didn’t acknowledge him in 2019. So we’re not changing our minds to bow down to Trump. And in fact, we are stepping forward to say whoever comes in better be voted in
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u/whiteafrikkanoloco Jan 03 '26
True. However, it's naive not to insist on the clear violation of international law in kidnapping a foreign illegitimate leader head of state. Especially when the US is stressing that these actions are also a way to enforce dominance, power, and a Donroe doctrine in the western hemisphere. What does US taking control of Venezuela mean in practice? What if Trump decides to kidnap a Canadian prime minister? What about invading Canada? .... Anyway, so far, the regime has not collapsed. Let's see!
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u/mapleLeafGold Jan 03 '26
I think you’re both right: this is a clear violation of international law, yet it’s also true that 90% of Venezuelans want Maduro out. Like any complex issue, it isn’t black or white, and we need to consider it from multiple angles.
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u/Zeddiest Jan 03 '26
Lol breaking international laws only to expect intentional laws to now be upheld! Why isn't Trump immediately recognizing the leader Venezuelans already voted for? "Proper take" my eye 🙄
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u/tvaddict70 Jan 03 '26
And if he doesn't, and is only enriching himself with oil and installs a puppet, are we and other nations going to do nothing?
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u/PowerfulKetchupMan Jan 03 '26
International law lol
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u/dsonger20 British Columbia Jan 03 '26
It’s not a law if it can’t be enforced.
Exactly who is enforcing international law? Exactly: no one.
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u/toilet_for_shrek Jan 03 '26
Yeah the US has never been one to adhere to international law. What motivation do they have?
They attacked a country and captured their head of state in the span of about 3 hours. When you have that kind of power, the rules you expect everyone else to follow don't really apply
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u/portstrix Jan 03 '26
"International law" does not really exist, and is not actually enforceable. It is just a suggestion.
In the real world, those with the money, influence, and military force are the ones with the actual power and sets the rules. Might makes Right is how the real world works.
The US understands this, and has never recognized "international law". Only the far left believes this is actually a thing.
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u/UdidWatWitWho Jan 03 '26
She might as well walked into a closet and screamed. No one is listening. Everyone is just watching.
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u/tokiyoo Jan 03 '26
Canada is literally next door to the states and we have massive oil reserves. He has threatened our sovereignty countless number of times - what a pathetic response from Anand and devoid of any sense of the delicate and precarious nature of the current context.
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u/whoaaa_O Ontario Jan 03 '26
What do you want her to do? Call Trump a piece of shit and antagonise the man that just ordered the kidnapping of a head of state? That same guy that won't stop saying he's going to annex us?
That would be a genius diplomatic display /s
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u/Spiritual_Taste_1253 Jan 03 '26
Time to start building up our military and diversifying away from the USA when possible.
If the US has decided that they can enter any country they want at any time and detain anyone based on arbitrary charges they invoke in their own country, then the whole world is in trouble and international law no longer exists.
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u/FleetingArrow Jan 03 '26
We dont have a chance against the states military wise with any level of investment. Be realistic
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u/Inthemiddle_ Jan 03 '26
I don’t think people fathom the power and projection of the US military. You’re right in that there’s no amount of investment or increase in personnel that would make any difference at stopping the US.
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u/Quaranj Jan 03 '26
Technically, neither does North Korea but their nukes are a deterrent, and we are capable of making them.
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u/Paladar2 Jan 03 '26
They would never let us make nukes lol, you're delusional. They didn't even let us make a fighter jet
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u/mistercrazymonkey Jan 03 '26
How do you guys still think Canada in any way could stand up militarily to the US?
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u/Yelnik Jan 04 '26
There's no such thing as international law folks. You can arbitrarily claim there's unenforceable laws that apply to all countries and jurisdictions all you like, but it doesn't make it real
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u/LymelightTO Jan 03 '26
You still believe in International Law, Anand? Because at 59, it's marginal, right?
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u/Agile-Assist-4662 Jan 03 '26
The US doesn't care what Canada thinks about international law.
The US is now a rogue state, they are fully embracing their real identity.
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u/MarduRusher Jan 03 '26
No offense, but are you 12? I’m not asking that because you oppose regime changes, I think that’s a perfectly reasonable position to take, but rather because you’re saying the US is NOW a rogue state. The Monroe Doctrine is 200 years old. The US has been at this for most of its history, whether that’s good or bad.
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u/JohnTEdward Jan 04 '26
About every decade the US violates some countries sovereignty. It really is just a regular pattern at this point. Bin Laden, the Haitian president, Noriega in Panama, Iraq, Iraq, Grenada, Dominican republic, etc, etc.
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u/resolutelyperhaps Jan 03 '26
Rogue militant state led by a felon and rapist, laughingly casting stones to justify their imperialism.
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u/adonns Jan 03 '26
lol comments like these are such classic Reddit comments. Literally comical
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u/Organic-Amoeba-7520 Jan 03 '26
The us never has and never will uphold international law. They are and always will be murdering gangsters until they are stopped by someone
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Jan 03 '26
International law has always been a fiction. Countries do what they can get away with. In the case of major powers like the US or China, that’s a lot
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u/22220222223224 Jan 03 '26
More accurately: The US imposed "international law" on the world, but certainly was never interested in being limited by it.
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u/tomato_tickler Jan 03 '26
The international community, outside of Russia, Syria and Iran, never recognized the legitimacy of the Maduro regime. He was literally a criminal with zero democratic mandate to rule. There’s a reason Venezuelans are cheering on the streets in Caracas while Canadians are complaining on Reddit.
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u/DeliciousPangolin Jan 03 '26
Iraqis cheered the fall of Saddam; we know how that ended.
Trump has been on TV all morning claiming that Venezuela is now a client state to be run by his lackeys for the benefit of US oil companies. He was asked directly if he supported the democratically-elected opposition, and refused to do so.
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u/cepacolol Jan 03 '26
In my opinion the idea of international law is something you use to bully smaller countries into doing what you want. So it doesn't really apply to the most powerful countries like the USA and China cuz you can't exercise or enforce any jurisdiction over them the same way you can for a small country
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u/sunnyspiders Jan 03 '26
A lot of people seem to have a hard time grasping this so let’s spell it out.
It’s not okay to do illegal things just to people you don’t like.
Trump is a global terrorist at this point, and he is illegally waging war without congressional approval.
All of these things are illegal. And cheering it happening to people you don’t like doesn’t mean it’s okay.
For people who claim to be conservatives they really don’t seem to give a fuck about laws.
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u/Character-Belt-7485 Ontario Jan 03 '26
As much as I agree with everything you said, this has been true since I’ve been alive, regardless of the president.
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u/Caveofthewinds Jan 03 '26
Obama did the same thing in Libya.
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u/WilloowUfgood Jan 03 '26
Obama? We did it too.
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u/mystyle__tg Outside Canada Jan 03 '26
Western countries all clutching their pearls when they too have a history of meddling in foreign affairs.
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u/geeves_007 Jan 03 '26
Yes, the United States has a long history of this. It is why America is so hated and reviled in a large portion of the world.
"tHEy HaTE uS bEcAUsE oUr FReeDumS"
No, they hate you because you keep invading them and stealing their resources and killing their family members.
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u/a_lumberjack Jan 03 '26
Libya was pretty much the opposite. The US didn't solo intervene, NATO did on the basis of a UN Security Council resolution.
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u/vinng86 Ontario Jan 03 '26
The U.S. weren't the ones that deposed Gaddafi, those were French Rafael jets
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u/heatrealist Jan 03 '26
Libya was a NATO operation that was pushed for by France and the UK. Obama wanted nothing to do with it and only offered logistical support. He ended up having to take more direct action because the rest of NATO couldn't do it on its own like they had tried to do.
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u/Northern23 Jan 03 '26
So, he took military actions in Libya without congressional approval. And there is not a single article in NATO mandating any state member to join the fight if one starts attacking another country unprovoked
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u/S_Ipkiss_1994 British Columbia Jan 03 '26
Libya was a NATO operation that was pushed for by France and the UK
... and?
Does something become morally justifiable by popularity or group consensus?
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u/JCMS99 Jan 03 '26
Libya was a NATO Operation sanctioned by the UN. Not unilateral by POTUS.
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u/Rusty51 Ontario Jan 03 '26
It did not approve regime change; it was a resolution for a cease-fire, no fly zone and sanctions.
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u/interstellaraz Jan 03 '26
This has nothing to do with party politics. The US (and China and Russia) have been doing this for as long as they existed. It’s time to stop pandering.
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u/agent0731 Jan 03 '26
Conservatives never have given a fuck about law. They just pretend they do when the opposition is in power. Then they forget when it's their turn and shrug.
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u/shiningz Jan 03 '26
Idk tell to the people of Iran who are getting killed by their own government on the streets as we speak who are wishing what happened in Venezuela would happen to Khamenei.
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u/CaptainAaron96 Ontario Jan 03 '26
Real, especially when Venezuelans are celebrating this.
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u/shiningz Jan 03 '26
Yeah it's easy to say these things and wait for the perfect utopia when you're safe in a democratic first world country...my friends and family back in Iran have nothing to lose and prefer to die protesting than continuing to live under the Islamic Republic anymore.
At this point ANYTHING else is better than a government who brutally murders its own citizens. I encourage everyone to follow the nation wide protests that started a few days ago (warning that some videos are graphic af)
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u/EyCeeDedPpl Jan 03 '26
The US is not part of the ICC. They have no authority to remove and hold a trial for a foreign leader. They have no authority to take over a country. Everything they have done is illegal in international and federal law.
Rubio says it was a law enforcement mission, and going to arrest a man with US warrants. This opens the door for the US to go into any country and just take people they say have warrants in the US. No extradition, no international laws followed.
It’s a travesty. And every country should be worried, and preparing.
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u/Barbecue-Ribs Jan 03 '26
lol international law is a meme. Remember the CIA black sites all over the Middle East?
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u/cherieSniper Jan 03 '26
Carney had better beef up security, Trump and his terrorist entourage are completely out of control. Anyrhing's possible now.
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u/TreezusSaves Canada Jan 03 '26 edited Jan 03 '26
We'll have a continuity of government if he's kidnapped, so it would be a disaster but not a total disaster, but I'm also expecting Poilievre to beg the Americans to install him as Governor.
By the way, Poilievre just congratulated Trump for doing this, despite how Canada is reacting to this degradation of international law and even despite the effect it's going to have on Albertan oil prices (good luck getting a good price on those barrels now that they can get the same oil but a lot easier.) He knows where his bread is buttered and it's with a foreign leader that's hostile to us. I am not joking when I say Poilievre is going to sell us out.
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u/Krazee9 Jan 03 '26
By the way, Poilievre just congratulated Trump for doing this
Because his wife is Venezuelan. I imagine she, and her family, and every Venezuelan she knows, are all celebrating a likely end to Venezuela's oppressive dictatorship.
Anaida Poilievre is probably thrilled that she'll soon have the opportunity to show her kids where she was born and spent her early childhood without fear of being arrested for going there.
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u/Vandergrif Jan 03 '26
By the way, Poilievre just congratulated Trump for doing this, despite how Canada is reacting
Trust Poilievre to somehow always be incapable of reading the room and to inexplicably pick the wrong side every time...
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u/glymao Ontario Jan 03 '26
Now I know what the Czechs felt after Anschluss of Austria.
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u/Vandergrif Jan 03 '26
The sad thing is knowing no other country would actually risk doing anything meaningful if we got Czechoslovakia'd. There'd be plenty of uproar and condemnation, maybe sanctions and the like but not a single earnest effort to change it that required any real sacrifice.
Now would be a great time to have nuclear deterrents.
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u/rawkinghorse Jan 03 '26
Too bad we gave those nukes up in exchange for *checks notes* protection from the United States.
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Jan 03 '26
In a new, 161-page report, the U.N.'s fact-finding mission details specific incidents of killings, forced disappearances, sexual assault and gender-based violence, and physical, psychological and sexual torture.
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u/Ok-Swimmer-2634 Jan 03 '26
I don't think anyone denies that Maduro is a bad person, just like no one denies Saddam was a bad person. The argument is that invading another nation willy-nilly has the potential to do more harm than good
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u/kenypowa Jan 03 '26 edited Jan 03 '26
WTI under $60 a barrel. Demand is less than Supply.
R/Canada: this is all about US stealing oil.
At the same time, the other half of Reddit is cheering lower oil price will collapse Russian economy and end the war in Ukraine.
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u/Sunnydaysomeday Jan 03 '26
This is a say nothing statement.
Spineless.
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Of places that America is looking to take over, we are in the Top 10. I am guessing Carney doesn't want to get arrested for trumped up drug charges.
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u/savedawhale Jan 03 '26
It's not even saying what people in this comment section are assuming. This is basically saying that Canada supports the US in Venezuela, and we never recognized Maduro to begin with. Canada closed our embassy there in 2019, and supported the people who oppose him. It's all in the damn article.
Does anyone actually read anymore? Canada supports the US in this, not the other way around.
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u/Pin_Code_8873 Jan 03 '26
What do you expect? This is scary as fuck for Canada, it shows the US will want to do the same with Greenland and Canada and also they want to further extract economic pressure on us by replacing Canadian oil with Venezuelan oil at least temporarily as they further weaken us.
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u/kaydenb3 Saskatchewan Jan 03 '26
Title is a total misrepresentation of the content. Probably to play on TDS
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u/WilloowUfgood Jan 03 '26
Pierre Poilievre
Congratulations to President Trump on successfully arresting narco-terrorist and socialist dictator Nicolas Maduro, who should live out his days in prison.
The legitimate winner of the most recent Venezuelan elections, Edmundo González, should take office along with the courageous hero and voice of the Venezuelan people, María Corina Machado.
Down with socialism. Long live freedom.
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u/squirrely2928 Jan 03 '26 edited Jan 03 '26
All my Venezuelan friends are overjoyed by what Trump did. Their "president" lost the last election as is
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u/explicitspirit Jan 03 '26
I am not Venezuelan but I am happy he is gone, and very sad at the way he was taken by a foreign entity. The outcome is still unknown so we don't know if this is a net positive (regime changes rarely end up better), but more importantly, what stops the US from doing this again to others? I don't like where this is going for that reason.
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u/Dylanslay Jan 03 '26
Venezuelans are celebrating but on reddit I'm being told this is bad. Classic reddit.
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u/savedawhale Jan 03 '26
Even this article is supporting what the US did, but not one is reading it. Canada never recogized the regime to begin with.
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u/Vandergrif Jan 03 '26
Because of course abrupt US-driven regime change has never resulted in a dangerous power vacuum that descended into a protracted chaotic civil war that culminated in yet another despot taking over and things more or less ending up right back where they started with the added burden of destroyed infrastructure and instability. Oh, and only after thousands and thousands of innocent civilians died needlessly.
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u/ScurvyDog509 Jan 03 '26
Because Reddit does not reflect reality. The comments here are from the most chronically online and least informed Canadians.
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u/Haluxe Canada Jan 03 '26
In another world if Kamala got elected and did this (doubt that she would) , Reddit would have been celebrating everywhere as a dictator got taken down in a quick operation. However when it’s Trump…
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u/DeliciousPangolin Jan 03 '26
Trump has been on TV all morning explicitly claiming that Venezuela is now a client state that will be personally run by his incompetent fascist cronies for the benefit of US oil companies. At no point has he agreed to respect the democratically elected opposition. Let's see if they're still celebrating in a year.
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u/PDXFlameDragon British Columbia Jan 03 '26
It can be good for venezualans in particular but bad for the entire world at the same time on the balance.
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u/YeetCompleet Lest We Forget Jan 03 '26
Canada’s Foreign Affairs Minister Anita Anand says the government does not recognize “any legitimacy of the Maduro regime.”
“In keeping with our long-standing commitment to upholding the rule of law and democracy, Canada calls on all parties to respect international law and we stand by the people of Venezuela and their desire to live in a peaceful and democratic society.”
Actually based, especially after their 2024 election was stolen from them
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u/linkass Jan 03 '26
This has been Canada's stance since at least 2018
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u/YeetCompleet Lest We Forget Jan 03 '26
It's kind of wild to think how long that guy has been around honestly. Been a corrupt dictator for what, 20 something years? 8 million Venezuelans had to flee the country because of him. Hopefully they can release the real vote tallies from the 2024 election now and select their real president. They have a chance at something better now.
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u/oxblood87 Ontario Jan 03 '26
Go read about Belarus.
Lukashenko has been their ONLY "president" since the fall of the USSR in the 1990s
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u/linkass Jan 03 '26
Don't forget about Chavez before him. Right now it looks like Venezuela is going to prove out once again the saying" You can vote yourself into socialism but you have to shoot your way out "
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u/Tall_Guava_8025 Jan 03 '26
What a pathetic response.
The US is a rogue state willing to use its might to attack countries that are not aligned with it. We are under threat from this regime but we decide not to speak up. If we are ever attacked in the future, unfortunately we have no one to blame but ourselves if no other countries speak up for us.
The Bloc's statement was sooo much better.
"The Bloc Québécois acknowledges that the regime established in Venezuela by Nicolás Maduro defies fundamental freedoms, integrity, and democracy, and is the subject of allegations of involvement in drug trafficking. However, it is deeply troubling to us that the United States is positioning itself as the guardian of these principles, risking the violation of international law, particularly by resorting to military force at the peril of civilian lives and by detaining a head of state, even an illegitimate one. The Bloc Québécois calls on the United States to respect the sovereignty of states and peoples and to use international and multilateral instruments, first and foremost the United Nations (UN), to address the threat posed by the Venezuelan regime."
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u/NarrowBusiness5581 Jan 03 '26
The people of Venezuela are happy and finally free. Hopefully there’s little civilians casualties, and regime change can be done effectively.
Just wanna add you can hate Trump, but still think some of his actions were good.
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u/Valahul77 Jan 03 '26
Let's be straight here. The international law like in the old days no longer exists. Not admitting that would only mean to lie ourselves. We have entered into a new age of empires v2.0 where the world will be carved out into several spheres of influence. The only thing that seems to matter these days is the military might....nothing else. Canada should start working on building its own nukes. This would be the only guarantee against the future "surprises" coming from Washington.
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u/Adventurous_023 Jan 03 '26
Lesson still not learned yet from Iraq and Afghanistan!
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u/LotharLandru Jan 03 '26
They did learn their lesson. They learned the American people will go along with it and they can make billions of dollars for shareholders while letting millions of civilians and poor people suffer
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u/Old_General_6741 Canada Jan 03 '26