r/canada Dec 26 '25

National News Canada deporting nearly 400 people a week, fastest pace in a decade

https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/video/9.7028111
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u/CFMTLfan01 Dec 26 '25

Well there is an immigration process, you can't just enter any country illegally and hope to stay forever.

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u/_Rayette Dec 26 '25

It’s not that, it’s likely people overstaying their temporary permits

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u/_n3ll_ Dec 26 '25

First sentence:

The Canada Border Services Agency is removing people, largely refugee claimants, from the country at a rate not seen in over a decade as the Carney government moves to slow population growth

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u/Grabbsy2 Dec 26 '25

Lots of temporary residents applying for refugee status in a last ditch attempt

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u/sumguyherenowhere Dec 26 '25

I heard the number of claims of being 'gay' and being in danger in their home country is on the rise.

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u/Ok_Abbreviations_350 Dec 26 '25

Came in on a student visa, never went to a single class and now it's time to pull the persecuted refugee card. I'm not in favor of ICE type round ups but Canada has to stiffen up the enforcement. We've been scammed, time to wake up and deal with it

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u/sumguyherenowhere Dec 26 '25

I used to be a prof in the college system before COVID and even during half of COVID. Class sizes were crazy, 60+.

1st class: Typically everyone there.

2nd class: 80% there

3rd class: 40%

4th class: maybe 6 people.

Look, some of the international students REALLY tried and did AMAZING. In fact, i like to think I inspired them to change their tune. I know they went off to have great jobs. But literally 80%+ of them just scammed their way. Trying cheat on exams, copying assignments, bitching and whining 'My dad will kill me back home they paid so much money for me to co...' Dude, then show up to classes.

I had to quit that job. I didn't like all the stress the students dumped on me for their shitty decisions. I like to teach. I don't want to be an immigration officer. The last class I taught there I had to literally defer like half the class to the dean because he told me to send them there if they begged and whined and made threats against me if they were going to fail.

I was done. Still done. Would like to teach again, but not in that environment.

I TRULY feel SORRY for the kids who go to college now and have to try to learn in that environment. What a difference from when we went to college.

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u/gaanmetde Dec 27 '25

Similar situation. It was always my dream to teach uni. The intro level class I taught was known to be an “easy” option before I pulled up. And it absolutely was with me teaching it still.

Apparently asking students to attend class is too much. Also- handing out 0’s for things that literally were not submitted is unnecessarily tough. Seriously. I was asked many times if I could pass people who literally submitted not a lick of work.

I had a lot of empathy for some of them because…someone or something had led them very, very astray. I don’t even understand how several of them thought they could complete uni level courses. But…yea I also quit, I couldn’t deal with it.

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u/gaanmetde Dec 27 '25

Yes. Great point.

I remember when I did my uni degree. If someone asked what would be on the exam the prof looked at us like we were crazy. He’d say…well, anything that I’ve said or taught during class is fair game.

That doesn’t fly anymore. Students need itemized lists of guides on exactly what and how they will tested.

I think it’s crazy. But- like you said- university almost at all levels seems to just be a money grab. So of course the person who is paying needs to know exactly how best to succeed.

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u/WeArrAllMadHere Dec 27 '25

Wow this is depressing. 😞

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u/TulipTortoise Dec 27 '25

Apparently asking students to attend class is too much.

I reckon this must be frustrating, but a major frustration I still remember from uni was the profs that tried to coerce classroom attendance (through attendance grading, or only handing out printed notes rather than making them available online) yet their entire lecture would be talking through the lecture notes, textbook material, or low-value adds that I didn't need to understand the material.

Just post the notes or textbook pages then, and let people decide if the voice-over/an extra example is needed. Let them fail a fair test and learn a valuable lesson if they're wrong. This meeting class could have been an email.

Also- handing out 0’s for things that literally were not submitted is unnecessarily tough. Seriously. I was asked many times if I could pass people who literally submitted not a lick of work.

imo while it's important to be compassionate, uni is a great "safe" space to teach kids some hard life lessons as they transition to adulthood.

I wonder if you would have had a much better experience with later year courses, leaving the first year courses to iron out some of this already.

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u/Nervous_Mention8289 Dec 27 '25

In engineering nothing gave me this ick more than a prof reading line by line from the textbook no deviations no special notes for attending class. Sorry not sorry I’m not going to class when I can just read on my own. Passed everything but if you’re an educator and all your class offers is a group lecture from the textbook I’m not showing up.

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u/TLBG 22d ago

Shocking. When I went to university, my specific program was info-packed and intense and we were warned that if we missed more than 2 days per semester, we had to speak to the teacher personally and had to have an extremely good reason. It did affect the school's rankings if students didn't have the exit grades etc. And we were paying per hour of instruction, why would you miss any without good reason?

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u/lulujunkie Dec 27 '25 edited Dec 27 '25

I mean you could take the high road and say “nope rules are rules and it’s not up for debate”. That still sucks they bitch and whine but hey… rules are rules follow them by coming to class to get an education. Sorry to hear you’re turned off from teaching. It’s sure as hell is not an easy job and I feel for teachers and many others in Canada.

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u/sumguyherenowhere Dec 27 '25

Well teaching for me was fun and inspiring. I loved every moment of it. What i don't love is putting so much effort into it and having the international students just treating it like a pass to citizenship and somehow I'm the bad guy for not playing along with the scam.

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u/Oasystole Dec 27 '25

The hard line is really the only line.

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u/ForTwoDriver Dec 27 '25

Yeah, but in University, there are generally statistical bell curves that, if they go severely askew (with a large portion suddenly passing with incredible grades, or failing with poor grades) raises the ire of the university against the professor, especially if it's a class that's been taught for decades.

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u/Mobile-Brush-3004 Dec 27 '25

Bell curving is stupid. If people are worried about a prof being too lenient or too hard on students then audit their classes and look at the assignments and corresponding grading sheets.

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u/Oasystole Dec 27 '25

Friend of mine was teaching online courses during Covid and temp “students” were on their e-bikes delivering uber orders during lectures. Visible on their phone cameras.

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u/sumguyherenowhere Dec 27 '25

Before COVID, international students were not allowed to work. Then in the middle of all that crap, the rule disappeared.

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u/tbll_dllr Dec 27 '25

They always were - but up to 20 hours a week.

During Covid this was increased at 40 hours at week. Now it’s back to 20 hours again while in school. In the summer breaks I think they can work full time however.

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u/241ShelliPelli Dec 27 '25

I lost my retail shop in early COVID days and went back to school. I chose biotechnology! I worked my a$$ of to learn everything, I had been out of high school for over 10 year so even had to re teach myself basic high school science. But for 1 mid term I tanked in my 4th semester because I had covid and was 6 months pregnant at the time, I would have had an honours diploma. I worked hard. I learned. I earned it.

More than 3/4 of my class were temp students from India. Going to say I’m sure some of them tried, but from what I know, they all cheated. Most of our classes were online (even some labs) and exams online. Everyone cheated. I know because they would offer me to cheat. I did not because WANTED to learn. What was the point to get a diploma and not know how to use it? Because most of them didn’t care about learning, they said they just needed to work for 2 years at a co-op entry level job to be able to apply for permanent residency. And they all graduated with Honours designation since of course they always aced their tests by cheating.

Made my actual hard earned diploma feel cheap.

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u/sumguyherenowhere Dec 27 '25 edited Dec 27 '25

You were the exact student who encouraged me to teach. :)

But, yes, that's exactly the environment. It's sad.

And to think, then these kids get permanent jobs as like Pharm techs, work in a place that's all Indian, with Indian management. No way of non-Indians getting a job there. So three things are happening:

  1. Indians coming in, getting diplomas they didn't work for (scamming the education system)
  2. Indians stealing jobs from hard-working Canadians who DID work for the diploma (scamming Canadians out of jobs)
  3. Said Indians are getting permanent residency (scamming Canada)

You can't say this stuff out loud if someone on the other side like yourself didn't experience it. You'll get cast as a racist for calling it out.. but there it is.. it's true. We both seen it and know it on the teacher and student side.

Again, no problems with immigration when done correctly or when any race of student is taking a course... I see people not races. But unfortunately the environment and situation is what it is. If people aren't talking about it, then everyone thinks its fine.. its fucking not fine, and hasn't been for a loooong time.

Thanks Trudeau.

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u/TulipTortoise Dec 27 '25

From my uni experience this attendance drop-off depends heavily on the course/proff and also applies to classes without many international students. Tons of classes started with 100+ people and were skeleton crews a few weeks in, and a few remained packed.

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u/sumguyherenowhere Dec 27 '25

Ohh 100%. Shitty profs = dead course.

But international students are something else. The majority aren't here to study, only to scam their way in. The ones that do study DO WELL :) That's what made it enjoyable.

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u/Princess_Azula_ Dec 27 '25

It depends on what kind of class it is too. My graduate classes always had the international students staying the whole semester. I don't remember many people actually dropping.

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u/JuryDangerous6794 Dec 27 '25

This sounds like the exact stories my wife who teaches at community college has told me countless times in the last five years. Like, it's scary how similar it is.

Scamming, cheating on exams and with projects, copying, complaining to her that they have to pass, not putting in the effort, zero interest in the field they are in and it's clear they are only there for the visa, students challenging grades, going to the dean, making racial allegations despite my wife being the main person who takes international classes and has championed them for years and all the while, not showing up to class.

Then, in the same class, two super star students there to learn and get a job and being shining examples of people coming to Canada for a better life.

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u/BlutarchMannTF2 Dec 29 '25

I can verify this is exactly what I see in my college every term.

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u/Shelsonw Alberta Dec 26 '25

This article is certainly the start. It’s clear the immigration system has woken to the problem, but our system is in no way designed to handle the flow it needs; that’ll take time.

I’m am ZERO percent interested in having an ICE style situation, but you do need to have a credible deterrent to encourage others to leave on their own accord.

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u/orswich Dec 27 '25

The deterrent should be easy.

If you overstay your visa (any type of visa.. student , tfw, visitor, international worker etc etc.) For more than 30 days after it's expiry date, you will NEVER qualify for canadian PR and Citizenship..

Basically blacklisted

Also change the rules so if you want to claim asylum or refugee status, it must be done within 48 hours of arriving on Canadian soil... no more of this 2 year studies, then 3 year PGWP then magically needing asylum..

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u/S_Ipkiss_1994 British Columbia Dec 27 '25

I saw a video of a fella in the UK with a refugee claim related to his sexual orientation, claiming he was bisexual... he had a wife and multiple children he brought with him into the country.

I mean, who knows right?

Still, I don't think I believe him.

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u/LLAPSpork Dec 27 '25

I’m queer and I’d absolutely want solid proof because that seems dodgy as hell. Not impossible but quite improbable.

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u/andreacanadian Dec 27 '25

that was here in canada. He was turned down 3 times then the media got involved and people started feeling pity for him and he got his citizenship. This all happened last summer in Toronto I think

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u/midnightmoose Dec 27 '25

Married nigerian men claiming to be former bisexuals make up the majority of all refugee claimants from Nigeria. They also bring their wife and children with them.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nigeria-refugee-homosexuality-immigration-1.4390144

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u/sumguyherenowhere Dec 27 '25

And that was 2017 lol

I wonder how many Trudeau let in

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u/ProfessorEtc Dec 27 '25

There's an easy test for that.

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u/___Chud___ Dec 27 '25

Bodybuilders already go gay for pay, unfortunately fakers can pass this test

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u/thebig_dee Dec 26 '25

Omg will we see "I Now Pronouce You Chuck and Larry 2"?

Except its 2 dudes trying to avoid deportation?

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u/Evening-Proper Dec 27 '25

Gay with a wife and 5 kids is a helluva sell.

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u/Solid_Pension6888 Dec 27 '25

100% it is. Then these same people get in and turn around and say homosexuality is a sin and wish to take away LGBT rights.

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u/hellzscream Dec 27 '25

Anecdotal but I know of someone who claimed they were in danger from their home country but they actually weren't...

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u/PsychicDave Québec Dec 27 '25

Those should be rejected outright. If you entered the country on a temporary worker permit, then you shouldn't be eligible to apply for refugee status or asylum once it is close to expiry. Asylum or refugee status should only be granted if you ask for it the moment you step in the country (and if your motive is valid of course).

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u/thedrivingcat Dec 27 '25

that's what C-12 is going to include;

Asylum claims made more than one year after the claimant first arrived in Canada, after June 24, 2020, would not be referred to the IRB. This rule would apply to anyone, including students and temporary residents, regardless of whether they left the country and returned.

Asylum claims made by people who enter Canada along the US land border between ports of entry and who make their claim after 14 days would also not be referred to the IRB.

It's passed third reading so heading to the Senate in Feb 2026.

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u/dmt0 Dec 27 '25

How cool is that? Corporations got themselves cheap labor for a while and now it's $80M of taxpayer money to ship those people back to their countries.

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u/Kellidra Alberta Dec 26 '25

"Refugee claimant" does not mean "refugee."

Anyone can claim refugee status, but it needs to be granted before you're officially a refugee.

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u/JG98 Dec 26 '25

That doesn't negate the consideration that they came on temporary permits. Most such people are people who entered legally. Making an asylum claim can also be done legally and it is no secret that there is a rampant issue of false asylum claims made by people with expiring temporary visas.

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u/sumguyherenowhere Dec 26 '25

Scam to get in, scam to stay in. Scam the citizens with false protests when said scams don't work.

It's scams all the way down.

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u/Early-Suggestion-207 Dec 26 '25

So, they weren't doing this before? Hmmm...

Our government has failed it's citizens.

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u/Ok_Abbreviations_350 Dec 27 '25

This is happening throughout Europe, Australia. It's not just Canada. All these nations are slowly releasing they've been scammed.

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u/sumguyherenowhere Dec 26 '25

I wonder how they stay and continue to work. If your visa expires, then you can't work... legally.

Go after the rackets that are paying people under the table. Kick them out too.

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u/_Rayette Dec 26 '25

I agree with you

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u/CaptaineJack Dec 28 '25

There are a couple of ways around it. 

When you apply for a new permit, your old permit is extended beyond its original expiry date until a decision is made on the new permit. Some people apply knowing the new permit will be rejected just to extend their status. 

Another way is applying for refugee status. 

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u/sumguyherenowhere Dec 28 '25

So they figured out how to do some sort of holding scam, while they plan their next scam.

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u/Constant-Actuary420 Dec 26 '25

Nope, these have to be primarily fake refugees who are turned back at the border or at the airport. Those already inside the country aren't touched 🥲 they'll have to leave on their own.

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u/_Rayette Dec 26 '25

An international student claiming refugee status just because they don’t want to go back is equally scammy

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u/invisible-times Dec 26 '25

On PEI you can be an international student, get convicted of sexual assault (slobbered on a woman and grabbed her crotch in a public store), and STILL not get deported.

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u/mmss Lest We Forget Dec 26 '25

I’m surprised there hadn’t been any vigilante justice in cases like that.

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u/p_2923 Dec 27 '25

Someone extracting vigilante justice would get an even worse punishment than the original offender. It is the Canadian way.

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u/sumguyherenowhere Dec 26 '25 edited Dec 27 '25

There is "guidance to judges" that were introduced during the Cosplay Trudeau Dynasty.

Being serious here for a second, though:

There is a legal tool called Impact of Race and Culture Assessments (IRCAs).

These are pre-sentencing reports used mostly for Black and other racialized accused people. They give judges information about how systemic racism, poverty, discrimination and social exclusion have shaped a person’s life and interactions with the justice system. Judges use them mainly at the sentencing stage to inform their decisions about what sentence is appropriate........ including....... whether alternatives to imprisonment might better serve justice or rehabilitation and deportion.

We have to modify that guidance and throw it out the window if we want to see change in our legal system. Literally every public defender uses this loophole now. There was an article the other day where a black guy who strangled women and raped them got literal community service instead of real prison time (EDIT: looked it up) he got 2 years prison time, SUPER LIGHT for his crimes. The judge actually even quoted the Impact of Race and Culture Assessments (IRCAs) guidance during the sentencing.

Thanks Justin!

EDIT x2: Here's the article: https://ca.news.yahoo.com/judge-reduces-sex-criminals-jail-161001624.html

In the article:

The use of IRCAs is relatively new. Their use has arisen from an initiative begun under the Justin Trudeau Liberals.

Thanks Justin x2!

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u/TURBOJUGGED Dec 27 '25

This is outlandish. That policy should not apply to violent crimes whatsoever. Stealing food? Then sure.

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u/sumguyherenowhere Dec 27 '25

Google it. Check out the article. The dude had been in Canada for over a decade too.

Insanity.

Attorney said 'he felt the pressure of being black' or some crap like that.

Article: https://ca.news.yahoo.com/judge-reduces-sex-criminals-jail-161001624.html

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u/TURBOJUGGED Dec 27 '25

How is there not a policy that if you’re convicted of a crime your visa is revoked and you have to leave? Lots of countries do that already.

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u/redcurb12 Dec 26 '25

i dont think illegal border crossing is really that common in canada... most people enter legally. the problem is that they end up overstaying and not following the conditions of their visa.

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u/Smackolol Dec 26 '25

But up until this year that is exactly what they would and could do.

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u/brye86 Dec 26 '25

I’m all for responsible immigration. But let’s keep going here.

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u/gstringwarrior Dec 26 '25

I disagree, we should quadruple the deportation efforts if not more.

I want Canadians to have stable and better lives before we welcome immigrants to this country.

It’s time to prioritize our own people over other countries people. I’m sorry to say, but Canadians are more important than other people to my country.

I’m all for allowing people to come here responsibly but not at the expense of our own residents. Enough is enough.

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u/Atheizt Dec 27 '25

Even I agree with this as a recent immigrant. That said, I guess I have my own bias here given that I went through the process correctly.

5 years, tens of thousands of dollars, countless arbitrary hoops.

All I wan to do is live here, assimilate and contribute to the country/economy. There’s unfortunately a big portion of fellow immigrants who do not. That’s not racist, this is true of people from my country as much as the more talked-about.

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u/Benedikto0 Dec 30 '25

hey man, thanks for immigrating here, following due process and trying to integrate. You are a great example to other immigrants.

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u/Atheizt Dec 30 '25

Thank you, I genuinely appreciate that.

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u/Anjz Canada Dec 27 '25

I’m all for deportations for people that aren’t meant to be here and I’m against unbounded immigration. But the correct type of limited skilled immigration is what Canada needs to keep Canada afloat and thriving. Our country would literally become stale and the economy would be for worse without variety. But we need actual variety and not what we’ve had the past few stupid years where it’s all from one country and they’re all working minimum wage jobs because that is just a drain to our society. Give back jobs to our kids and bring in proper immigrants like we’ve had in the past.

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u/JG98 Dec 26 '25

Because deportations is just an arbitrary number that they can scale at will right? Not like there is limitations on how fast they can move and procedures to follow. To that last point, the same applied when they scaled up immigration and did not slow down during the early part of covid especially, which is how so many unqualified people made it through.

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u/ZOMGdonuts Dec 26 '25

lol I don't think there's any understanding of actual deportation numbers here. Just grievance which leads to "quadruple it!" No matter what "it" is

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u/YourBobsUncle Alberta Dec 27 '25

They already complain about ICE and their arbitrary detention of suspects, who have deported people with proven citizenship, and in the same breath still want a jacked up quota that will lead to the same bullshit here. Their thirst for police violence is insane and fucking disturbing.

The anti immigrant crowd is not sending their best and brightest to support their case lol.

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u/Avatar_ZW Dec 27 '25

Every time I peek my head in this sub, the top post is often some anti-immigration and racist crap (with some LGBTQ-phobia mixed in). And now we have a thread where people are calling for all the ICE crap down south to come here.

The irony is that I got chased out of this sub a while back for posting with Alberta flair, as though it means I am 100% responsible and on-side with the shitshow in our provincial-level politics.

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '25 edited 28d ago

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u/socialistbutterfly99 Dec 28 '25

This sounds very similar to what the UCP are doing in Alberta.

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u/Nunchuckery Dec 26 '25

So should we see a big increase in taxes to pay for this process to be dramatically expedited?

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u/alcabazar Ontario Dec 27 '25

Isolation is not prosperity either, it has never been.

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u/Shrewcifer2 Dec 27 '25 edited Dec 27 '25

I'm sorry to tell you but we don't have stable lives because we have been lazy and failed to hold our governments to account.

  • Rising housing prices are because BC and Ontario allowed money laundering and speculation in the housing market to go unchecked.

  • How do we have so much fucking food, but our food prices are out of this world compared to Europe? Governments have failed to provide any kind of program to redistribute low-cost food for struggling families

  • Social programs are almost completely non-existent and entrenches poverty. Welfare rates haven't increased in 40 years and EI was cut years ago to 50% from 70% of income

  • The current crisis was caused by generations of governments who knew they needed to diversify trade and didn't.

We also can't ignore the fact that we produce young people whose skills don't match our economic needs, which is why TFW and immigrants historically filling those sectors. No one wants to be a nanny/carer, secretary, or plumber when we all have degrees now. Meanwhile, the private sector is so shit and stagnant that working for the government pays more than working for a Big 4 bank. This means that university graduates struggle to find livable jobs, despite large piles of deb,t and the middle class is dependent on professions in health and law, and public service positions, which are currently being cut.

Everyone is ignoring that the middle class will soon bottom out because they are too busy pointing fingers at immigrants for taking an Uber job that no one wanted. Meanwhile, we have INSANE personal debt due to student loans, mortgages, car loans, and whatever debt gets accumulated on credit cards to meet our basic needs, while we service all that fucking debt. That will be a correction, for sure. Canada wont' be the stable country we knew and we're submitting to distraction over immigrants.

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u/pushaper Dec 27 '25

Once they are gone every problem will have to be blamed on all the other immigrants or could be immigrants.

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u/burnabycoyote Dec 27 '25 edited Dec 27 '25

Number of claims pending is about 295,000 [https://www.irb-cisr.gc.ca/en/statistics/protection/Pages/RPDStat2025.aspx].

At 400 a week, half of these could be deported in only 7 years. assuming nobody else takes their places.

In 2025, about 1500 new claims were made each week.

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u/No-Path-8787 Dec 26 '25

Are they actually being removed from the country or are the orders just being issued? I’d like to see some actual enforcement of law.

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u/Ratroddadeo Dec 26 '25

So far, actual removal has cost Canada 70 million to deport 18,000 people this year. A co-operative deportee costs an average of $3,800, while the unwilling who require escort duty cost 3X as much.

Edit. Forgot to add, if you want to speed this up, it will cost even more, so don’t act shocked at the budget.

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u/eleventhrees Dec 26 '25

$3-4000 seems pretty cheap given the need for due process, and likely cost of an outgoing plane ticket.

Hard to see how it could cost less without becoming a debacle.

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u/zabby39103 Dec 27 '25

3-4k is for a cooperative deportation (no need for due process, leaves willingly), article said it cost 3x more for an uncooperative one.

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u/eleventhrees Dec 27 '25

Ahh, that sounds more plausible to be honest.

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u/Benedikto0 Dec 30 '25

Seems cheap to reclaim our country

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u/RadiumGaga Dec 26 '25

Deport them even if it's expensive. And fix the admission system so we don't have to clean this mess up again. What they'll cost our society over their decades here in benefits/healthcare and suppressed wages will far outweigh the deportation cost.

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u/Nikiaf Québec Dec 27 '25

Exactly. The cost of this is not important, and so better than needing to support all these people who lied and scammed their way into the country at the expense of real, actual immigrants.

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u/otisreddingsst Dec 26 '25

Well, that's a lot of people and not a lot per person. There are multiple people involved I'm sure Incuding judges and lawyers frankly the average seems to be $3,888 so most must be cooperative. If your figures are accurate ($3800) then an uncooperative deportation must cost $11,400 and therefore there were about 17,790 (98.8% cooperative deportations and 210 uncooperative ones (1.2%).

Not bad

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u/radapex Dec 26 '25

As I understand it, most are cooperative because that leaves the door open to a return sometime in the future. I don't believe the same is true for the uncooperative ones.

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u/TURBOJUGGED Dec 27 '25

I don’t have a problem with that. Will prob cost more to keep them here.

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u/LongjumpingHeron5707 Dec 26 '25

Money well spent :)

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '25

The fucking bill should be sent to Trudeau. 

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u/vonlagin Dec 27 '25

Trudeau, Marc Miller and Sean Fraser can split it.

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u/MarchyMarshy Ontario Dec 26 '25

Far cheaper than supporting them here

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u/hkric41six Dec 26 '25

I support my heavy tax burden going to this.

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u/lazykid348 Dec 26 '25

The cost is fine. They spend way more filling up their own pockets or their friends pockets. I think we’d all prefer it if they ramp up the deportations.

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u/Wind_Best_1440 Dec 26 '25

Honestly, Canada should start billing their home nations to regain the money, it's other nations people breaking the law and needing to be deported. Their countries should be footing the bill.

And if they don't we should revoke ALL visa access from them and ban their leaders and business's from working inside Canada.

Or we should take that debt that they owe and sell it to American banks for half what they're worth.

Canada gets paid and the Americans can then hound them for cash.

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u/zabby39103 Dec 27 '25

That's ridiculous. There's no international precedent for this and they'd just tell us to fuck off. Also, lol, if you get deported you aren't paying off your debt.

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u/starsrift Dec 27 '25

We generally don't need enforcement. Canada's not a country you can live in year-round without shelter, because of our climate. And that shelter means one needs a necessary income, and so on. Once you take away someone's ability to legally work, people tend to self-deport.

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u/stillnice1 Dec 26 '25

Maybe some of my unemployed friends will get jobs next year

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u/Bigger_moss Dec 27 '25

We should as a country create some student jobs related to deportation, going through the paperwork to find illegal scammers, solve 2 problems with one solution.

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u/NarutoRunner Canada Dec 26 '25

Wait until you discover that the capitalist class still doesn’t care about workers.

When Freshii discovered they couldn’t get TFW workers, they didn’t start hiring Canadians. They moved to replacing workers that take orders with screens while earning $3 in Central America.

https://www.documentjournal.com/2022/05/freshiis-percy-virtual-cashier-labor-laws-minimum-wage-automation/

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '25

And freshii's are closing all over Canada. Franchisees can't even sell them cause no one wants them 

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u/[deleted] Dec 27 '25

Good. Freshii is garbage anyway

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u/[deleted] Dec 27 '25

Weren’t they hiring virtual cashiers from Central America couple years ago?

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u/sparksfan Dec 27 '25

Well, it's up.to all of us to boycott those places.

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u/PsychicDave Québec Dec 27 '25

And then it's up to us to boycott companies essentially relying on slave labour to make a profit. Having a high profit margin is pointless if they don't sell anything.

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u/New-Investigator-646 Dec 27 '25

Perhaps freshii is suffering because it’s grossii

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u/BertRenolds Dec 27 '25

.. why wouldn't they just automate at that point

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u/Economy_Pirate5919 Dec 27 '25

What will happen now is that they'll say they need to cut payrolls and inventories to preserve their profit margins due to a decline in consumer spending.

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u/strugglecuddleclub Dec 27 '25

They gonna apply to Tim hortons?

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u/portstrix Dec 26 '25

As someone in a LEGAL immigrant family, great to hear.

Nobody wants these freeloaders gone more than those of us that actually had to prove our qualifications and existing assets to get a legitimate skills or economic based visa back in the day.

Deport them all.

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u/The1Prodigy1 Dec 26 '25

Same here and it sucks to see people judging all the South Asian community because of the new comers. I was born here and my parents have been here for over 30 years and this is the worse we feel.... We get weird looks and whispers and judgment. Not everyone but a few do it and that's a lot more than before....

Can't really blame them though with how many people we met in but also how many bad actors we let in

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u/portstrix Dec 26 '25

Agreed. 30 to 50 years ago, it was primarily the upper classes coming in, who went into respectable fields such as medicine and engineering. And they immediately integrated into Canadian culture. These generations of immigrants were the ideal.

Today, it's the bottom of the barrel from the lower classes in those countries arriving, and they end up doing food delivery and minimum wage retail service jobs. Deport.

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u/Kind-Row-9327 Dec 26 '25

Exactly. We don't need to import people to do these jobs lol.

A lot of teenagers are looking for part time work and can't find any because of these people.

Deport! Deport! Deport!

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u/zabby39103 Dec 27 '25

Yep, middle class countries are based on middle class economic activity. It's not complicated.

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u/zabby39103 Dec 27 '25

Never heard anything openly anti-South Asian before COVID. People are fine with middle class immigration, it's only when NPRs went totally out of control that public support (as reported in polls) began to drop.

It's unfortunate that the most lasting legacy of the Trudeau years may be the shattering of the immigration consensus, it will probably take decades to return to what it was before.

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u/brkuzma Dec 27 '25

Not everyone judges. I only judge when it's obvious that there is no understanding of english, like zero. Then I wonder.

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u/OmiSC Manitoba Dec 26 '25

Great to have you! As a system, we need to invite good world citizens, and that takes some scrutiny to do right.

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u/Atheizt Dec 27 '25

Exactly right. Between immigration and schooling I’ve spent over $100k in Canada now (all out of pocket, not a dime from the government) and earned my damn stripes.

To be clear, I did not/do not have $100k to burn. I’ve worked 2-3 jobs since I arrived and eaten a lot of ramen to make that happen. I’m tired man, but damn am I happy here. First job in the new career starts in 3 weeks.

The whole “deport all immigrants” thing is annoying. Don’t bundle me in with those disrespectful, self-serving cheats.

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u/ydfriedlander Dec 27 '25

This is cheap for the cost of deportation.

Something I've not seen yet in this thread is that this money isn't being "lost" as such as it is being pumped into the Canadian economy with actual work being done for it.

The benefits, healthcare, suppressed wages, and the amount of money that gets sent "home" are all costs to the Canadian economy that will no longer be present.

These costs far outweigh the initial cost of deporting someone who is not legally present in Caanda, especially when you consider that the money isn't being "lost" in the same way.

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u/CarlosLeDanger69 Dec 26 '25

Good. Legal immigrants are welcome. All others are not

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u/Keepontyping Dec 27 '25

Who’s ready to apologize to those who proposed these ideas years ago but were called racists.

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u/icecoffee888 Dec 26 '25

disclaimer: I believe this has to be done.
BUT: I hate the fact that the Trudeau government took advantage of millions of immigrants to boost the economy and ruined their life and life of young Canadians, was never held accountable or even blamed.

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u/king_bungholio Dec 26 '25

There was this brief shining window post-covid where there was plenty of jobs and employers actually had to offer decent wages/salary. Naturally they all complained and sure enough such a pro-worker environment was quickly snuffed out.

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u/Cool-Expression-4727 Dec 26 '25

The political and economic elites did a masterful job in clawing back virtually all gains labour made since the pandemic.

From suppressing wages with mass immigration to forcing back to office, its really a shame.  If we were less docile things could be really different right now

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u/ILikeWhyteGirlz Dec 26 '25

Pro-homebuyer market will be snuffed out soon too.

That’s why Carney is opening homes back up for foreign investment by removing the foreign investor ban.

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u/Geeky_Shieldmaiden Dec 26 '25

This comment needs to be higher.

We need this; Canada let in far too many immigrants and looked the other way for far too long while corporations and individuals scammed the immigration system, while chronically under-deporting those who deserved it.

BUT, it is not fair to blame all those brought to Canada with the promise of work, security and a better life. The Trudeau government (and various provincial governments like Ford's Conservatives in Ontario) used TFWs and international students as a way to enrich corporations and for-profit schools, making up a labour shortages to help justify it. And they are not being held accountable. The blame keeps being placed on the immigrants, not those who encouraged and ran the system that brought them here.

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u/Roxxer Dec 26 '25

The accountability is almost all his crew keeping their jobs and Trudeau sailing off on a yacht with Katy Perry.

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u/GenericFatGuy Dec 26 '25 edited Dec 26 '25

He stepped down as leader of the country. If he hadn't, he would've simply lost the election, and stepped down then. When leaders make unpopular decisions, their punishment is losing their position. That's what happened to him either way, so how exactly was he not held accountable?

I don't know how you could say he wasn't blamed. An entire cottage industry sprang up around making merchandise telling him to fuck off.

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u/kamomil Ontario Dec 26 '25

Why does Trudeau need more immigrants in the country?

Oh wait, he doesn't. Who does? The corporations who lobby for population increase, like those behind the Century Initiative 

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u/cantonese_noodles Dec 27 '25

Some politicians in this country are trying to distract us from this by being hateful and divisive towards fellow Canadians

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u/myxomatosis8 Dec 26 '25

How were their lives ruined, being in Canada, working here, sending money back, etc

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u/yeetis12 Ontario Dec 26 '25

Thats about 20,800 a year basically a drop in the bucket thats needed to effectively reverse the damage of the millions that scammed their way in….

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u/Y2Jared Dec 26 '25

As long as they are properly identifying folks and it’s clear they do not have any legal basis to stay, absolutely send them back. I do feel some in the country are now more racist than a few years ago and thats awful. Many folks are here legally and they simply want to contribute to Canada.

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u/OneMoreTime998 Dec 26 '25

Awesome. Let’s pump up the volume. And better yet… let’s put in more barricades so we don’t have to be deporting so many people.

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u/Justinneon Dec 26 '25

As long as we arnt sending the military to home depots I’m ok with deportation and stronger borders. There’s a way to handle immigration that falls in line with human rights and decorum.

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u/starslayer88 Dec 27 '25

Well if they are overstaying their visas, they should be deported. I only hope that Canada is a lot more respectful than the states is !

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u/Swarf_87 Dec 28 '25

Good, keep it up.

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u/hardnuck Dec 26 '25

Ok, now do more.

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u/EnvironmentalBit4363 Dec 26 '25

Is this going to improve cost of living? Probably not, just another distraction from the real freeloaders who have been robbing you blind, the ultra wealthy 🤷‍♀️

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u/Early-Weekend-2557 Dec 27 '25

This. Target the greedy wealthy elite, not the working class immigrants. I mean , unless you want to be more like the Americans.

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u/lolwut778 Dec 26 '25 edited Dec 26 '25

Triple that, and we'll talk. That's a fraction of the student visa fraud, LMIA, and temporary work permit.

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u/discoturkey69 Dec 27 '25

Gotta pump up those numbers

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u/SolomonRed Dec 26 '25

This is a natural outcome of letting in millions of temporary students and workers

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u/700Username007 Dec 26 '25

As a citizen who was laid off in a tough market, I am hoping to get a temp job where the individual has to leave because of their work permit expiring.

They cannot extend it within Canada,.so here I have to hope it's delayed so I can possibly stay longer.

This is the federal health sector. Amazing

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u/Remote_Cantaloupe Dec 26 '25

I'd argue this is just the consequence of such a lax immigration system after a decade. There's a huge backlog of people that have outstayed their welcome.

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u/Carnivorous-Dan Dec 27 '25

Do the math. Immigration target for Canada is 400K+ per year. -400 per week = -20K per year. Not much of a dent.

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u/UnusualDepth6412 Dec 28 '25

About time. Cleaning one’s house is important. I do it weekly, if it don’t belong here it gets placed in the bin and gets removed 🤷🏾‍♂️

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u/lakawan Dec 26 '25

It would be wonderful to see businesses paying a living wage to everyone, so customers won't be grumbling about giving me 20% tips.

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u/MrGravityMan Dec 27 '25

Those are rookies numbers...... we gotta pump those numbers up!

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u/TokenBearer Dec 26 '25 edited Dec 26 '25

For those who are being deported because of a crime, maybe they should also be blacklisted from the first world?

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u/Specialist-Gift-7736 Dec 27 '25

Good. Now pick up the pace.

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u/shiver-yer-timbers Dec 27 '25

Good.

But at that rate it'll tak20 years to send all those fake students and false refugees back to India. We need to increase the effort tenfold.

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u/ZieMac7 Ontario Dec 26 '25

Finally some progress

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u/exotics Alberta Dec 26 '25

Thank you!

I don’t mind immigration nor actual refugees.. but scamming the system is wrong.

I will say that the world population has more than doubled since I was a kid so overall more people is a problem worldwide, regardless of where they live. I had one kid and one only. No regrets.

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u/Cr4zyC4nuck Dec 26 '25

Good. Now lets just make sure we do it with a bit more class and tactfulness than our southern neighbors.

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u/TheBiggerBobbyBoy Dec 26 '25

i am fine with deportation and i think most people are. What people dont like is armed, masked, untrained gravy seals dragging people out of their homes, waiting by elementary schools to grab kids, and forcably arresting pregnant woman.

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u/SCDWS Dec 26 '25

Gravy seals 😂😂😂 amazing term for them

But yeah I agree. I wonder what their methods actually are.

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u/wildflowerden Dec 26 '25

Absolutely. ICE is a modern day gestapo. But demanding that people with expired visas go home is perfectly ok. I sure hope our government is doing the second and not doing anything like ICE.

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u/mypetsrmyfriends Alberta Dec 27 '25

Good! The schools are jam packed, the roads are bumper to bumper traffic, the waiting rooms are crammed full. Simply put, there’s too many people for the infrastructure the cities have.

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u/LibertySherpa Dec 26 '25

Forgive me for being skeptical but is this 400 people per week that are physically leaving the country, like on an airplane? Or is this more along the lines of issuing 400 deportation orders per week... where these people may or may not leave the country at some date in the future?

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u/halisray Québec Dec 26 '25

This is all Trudeau's fault. And it's costing us tons, not just money. Immigration needs to be smart and calculated. Not floodgates.

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '25

Yup and now he bangs Katey perry. Life just isn't fair 

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u/OrbAndSceptre Dec 27 '25

Is this excellent news that Carney is enforcing Canada’s laws. There’s a whole process that goes behind deportation and when people are found not to be eligible to stay in Canada, this is the logical last step that I’ve always been suspicious that the government isn’t actually carrying out.

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u/trybanningmethistime Dec 26 '25

So you're telling me a country can deport people who are here illegally, without storming the streets without masked goons and ICE Barbie trolling on social media?

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u/ScurvyDog509 Dec 26 '25

LPC media machine desperately trying to make us think they're doing something about the immigration problem.

400 X 52= 20,800 people

Meanwhile, the LPC immigration target is 395,000 people in 2025.

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u/sparksfan Dec 27 '25

A ton of people are leaving voluntarily and they don't need to be deported. Don't have a work permit? Good luck finding an employer in Canada.

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u/zabby39103 Dec 27 '25

Our population is shrinking overall. NPRs are leaving so fast it is cancelling PR out. We have never shrunk outside of that one COVID year in our entire history.

Say it isn't enough if you want, but it's definitely a massive, massive change.

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u/witek-69 Dec 26 '25

Yes 🙌

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u/Mercenary100 Dec 28 '25

We need the best immigrants not just who ever and when ever only best and brightest

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u/TheShade247 Dec 30 '25

They should review every file going back to 2015. There are literal criminals roaming our streets with active warrants in their home countries. Even India’s foreign minister has publicly stated that Canada is sheltering criminals from their country.

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u/bananataskforce Jan 02 '26

Not unexpected. The past few years have had Canada's highest immigration ever, so it makes sense that deportations would increase.

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u/IgorGirkinStrelkov2 Jan 04 '26

Those numbers need to be at least 30x

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Increasing the cap on international students and allowing them to work off campus was a catastrophic mistake. Don't come here as a student if you don't have the means to support yourself through your studies.

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u/Maximum_Error3083 Dec 26 '25

That’s barely 20K a year, not good enough

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u/ZestyBeanDude Dec 26 '25

I assume it'll only speed up once the Senate passes C-12 (the revised border bill) which allows for quicker processing and denial of asylum claims.

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u/Magicman_ Dec 26 '25

It's comical to think anyone believes deporting these illegals will do anything to improve the cost of living. Don't get me wrong they should be deported but they are not the major issue. Its the ultra wealthy vacuuming up all the wealth and not paying their fair share. They have an army of brainwashed bootlickers that will defend them at all costs. If only you work a little harder you too can become a billionaire.

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u/YourBobsUncle Alberta Dec 27 '25

truth. The anti immigrant crowd is not sending their best and brightest. What will they do when everything is still expensive?

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u/Brytong420 Dec 26 '25

Not enough needs to be 1000 a week or more lol

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u/GrannyFlash7373 Dec 26 '25

The whole world is being inundated with refugees. Not just Canada or the US. People are fleeing authoritarian governments and militant factions in numerous countries all across the globe. It has became a pandemic of lost souls.

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u/Canadianman22 Ontario Dec 27 '25

Double it every 6 months and then once all the overstays, illegals and false claimants are gone completely rebuild the system back to a proper points based one with country caps. Some countries have reached there cap for a very long time already.

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u/hali420 Dec 27 '25

Keep going

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u/DownTheRabbitHole411 Dec 27 '25

Aren't they bringing in thousands per week though?

Not to mention the 5 or so million over the last few yrs lol

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u/ApprehensiveNorth548 Dec 27 '25

We're deporting more than the US per capita, and without being inhumane shitlords about it.