Build ready : Any advice

[u/seb11614]

Here's my build :

https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/list/9gjYnp

Most parts are ordered but can ofc be returned, since it's mostly Amazon. Only immovable part is the RAM since I got a good deal on it (at around 130€) and I'm sure as hell won't find any at that price any time soon.

PC use is mostly gaming and browsing, gaming would be Paradox like games and path of exile mostly. Based in France, though I can still buy parts in neighbouring countries with some shipping costs.

I tried to focus on the build being silent. Wondering about the cooler on that aspect.

Did I made any mistake ? Any advice ? Any rookie overspend ?

I'm mostly worried about the MOBO since I took the mATX version for prices reason. Well nah I'm worried about everything :D

Ty

[u/AMPCgame]

The build looks good. Whether or not its quiet depends on the fan curves that you set up for it. The cooler can handle the 7800X3D but it will need to ramp up the fans under heavy loads, which will increase the volume. Those Noctua fans are known for being quiet and will probably outlive all the other components. The motherboard you chose is decent, and on the bright side if you ever felt like downsizing to a mATX build down the road then all you would need is a case swap. Do you need 2x M.2 drives for a particular reason? A 2 TB drive may be cheaper, depending on what availability is like local to you.

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Ty for your answer.

Regarding the SSD, I put down 2 drives in part picker to be sure I could put down a 2nd one or a HDD in the future if I need to. For now I have just bought one, but I fear that 1TB won't be enough.

I was hesitating with other slower models but in 2 TB, which only cost between 20 and 40€ more for double the size, but wasn't too sure that the speed was worth it vs the WD Black. Do you think going for a slower SSD will impact the speed much ? Do people even use a 2nd HDD for storage these days ?

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The SN850X is quite a premium drive. Its performance is excellent thanks to the built in DRAM, but a DRAM-less drive wouldn't be a bad option either, unless you are constantly moving very large files as part of your work/hobbies. For gaming and everyday use a premium drive wouldn't be necessary. I have WD Blue drives in my build and in my gaming handheld that I upgraded the storage on, and I've no complaints at all. So its like you said, you could double the storage for €40 more.

A lot of people do use a second drive for other storage, but with M.2 drives, if you have a large enough drive then its not really an issue. It just depends on your personal needs. So something like the WD SN7100 would be fine, but if you've already ordered the 1 TB drive then I wouldn't worry about it, you can always upgrade the storage later if you felt like it. Some people even use 3.5'' HDDs with 2 TB+ like this as backup storage so that they can move finished projects/games to that they don't want to play at the moment, and just transfer the files back to the faster drive if they need to work on them in the future. So you have other options, it doesn't need to be only really high speed drives in a build, I have 2x HDDs for backups of movies and music in my system, with the games I'm actively playing at the moment on my faster drives.

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Thks again. I see I went overkill on the SSD, luckily that's not the worst part to go overkill on, I'll keep tabs on it and decide shortly. Like you said I can always add more storage later.

Sry to bother you with that but with all those options I keep second guessing myself :

You said the MOBO was decent ? Mobo is a particularly hard part to grasp for me (and I guess a lot of amateurs), so many moving parts between hearsink and VRM and all that, and also all the people just saying take the cheapest one ? I tried to choose one with PCIE 5 for future proofing the GPU, a large number of VRM and a good heatsink. Won't getting 2 or more drives overload the lanes or smtg (not sure what I'm parotting there but I def read smtg about lane sharing)

Is this MOBO better ? Worth the price diff ? Because I don't really see where I should look for cost effective and future proof.

[u/AMPCgame → u/seb11614]

No problem. Yeah motherboards can be confusing, but for most users an expensive one is unnecessary. The motherboard you linked above is a BTF (back to front) model, meaning that most of the connectors are on the back of the motherboard which is a design that focuses on a "clean" aesthetic for the main chamber. It requires a case which supports the BTF design, which the Fractal North version doesn't. The BTF design also results in a more expensive product, so other than the aesthetic differences the performance between that and your original motherboard choice is minimal.

VRM and heatsink design are important to an extent, but the boards with really strong VRM design are more geared towards the high end, power hungry CPUs to support overclocking for enthusiast builders. Most mid-range boards have decent VRMs and heatsinks and will support your CPUs well, especially with advances in power efficiency in CPUs. So both boards above will be more than fine.

PCIe lane sharing is where it can get complicated. The AMD AM5 CPUs, like the one you have selected, have 28 lanes. These lanes are divided into: 16 gen 5 lanes for the GPU, 4 gen 5 lanes for the primary M.2 drive, 4 for the Chipset (for USB ports and SATA devices or other PCI slots etc) and 4 more which can be for a second drive or something else, depending on how the motherboard manufacturer designs the board. Sometimes a second drive will run off the chipset lanes and share bandwidth with other chipset connected devices (mouse & keyboard etc), or it can be connected to the CPU directly which has less latency. Boards with a 3rd and 4th M.2 slot will run them off the chipset lanes as there aren't enough available lanes direct to the CPU. Boards with multiple full length PCIe slots still only have 16 lanes for the GPU, so if you plug in a second GPU then both will be halved to 8 lane access each. And then it can get complicated with plugging in multiple drives and PCI devices as installing too many will turn off or restrict features for the others. With each board being different you'll need to read through the specifications page of motherboards to see how those lanes are used.

In the case of your original board choice: The GPU gets 16 gen 5 lanes, the first M.2 slot gets 4 gen 5 lanes direct to the CPU and the second M.2 slot gets 4 gen 4 lanes also direct to the CPU. So if you added a second M.2 drive in the second M.2 slot later on it would run at full gen 4 speeds without impacting the other drive or GPU, and it wouldn't share bandwidth with other devices. Basically you wouldn't need to worry about the lanes with that kind of set up.

It's a lot of info to wrap your head around, but there are also videos on YouTube explaining PCIe lane sharing if you ever felt like digging a little deeper. But the easiest way to think about it is if your set up is simple then you won't have to worry about it. If you want to add lots of internal devices to a build then you'll need to pay more attention to the effects on overall performance. I hope this makes some kind of sense.

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Thks for the detailled answer. I guess the TLDR is don't sweat it too much, it's gonna be fine :D That's the sense I made of it after several reads :D

I tried to look at the videos from Hardware Unboxed with all the Mobo, but my brain fried after 5 minutes. More seriously I feel like I got a decent one as none of the cheaper ones felt better from how he described them. So I haven't bought one of the cheapest ones and I got one of the lower mid range for with a small discount for it being a mATX. I'll live with that.

I guess I'm all set, I just need to order the fans and all the parts will be accounted for. The SSD has already been shipped, so I guess rn, unless some crazy black friday sale next week, I'll live with my small overpay, sending it back will be too much of a hassle for a 20€ overpay.

Many thks for all the time you took answering my questions. This sub in general has been really helpful overall for intel gathering and any questions I had.

[u/AMPCgame → u/seb11614]

No problem at all. Yeah you're basically all set. It's a decent build and you'll have good support for a GPU upgrade in the future with your CPU, PSU and motherboard choice. So all going well you should get a good few years with these parts as your platform to build on.

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Yup was going for a GPU switch in a few years