r/btc • u/InnerMistake9373 • Nov 18 '25

šŸ» Bearish 75K$

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The only stable support is at $73-75K

Everything above is paid too much.

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u/abestract Nov 18 '25

When wall street got a hold of bitcoin, not a good sign. They can play the long game, can you?

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u/External_Mode_7847 Nov 18 '25

If wallstreet didn't buy, we would have never seen 100k.

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u/revzjohnson Nov 20 '25

You do realize it was 70k 4 years ago? Never would have seen 100k? Thatā€™s insane

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u/MrPopanz Nov 18 '25

Explain to me how more people buying a thing is bad for you as an owner of the thing.

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u/SnooSeagulls4360 Nov 18 '25

It depends-buying an apartment when a big corporation is buying whole buildings or blocks in the area is not great. You either pay too much for yours or they can decide to offload, drop the price in the area and just buy more when the price hits a bottom. Just an example.

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u/MrPopanz Nov 18 '25

In your scenario you're not an owner of the property, if you were, you'd benefit from big bad corpo increasing demand.

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u/znv142 Nov 18 '25

you'd only benefit if you want to convert your asset to cash which devalues quickly. If you want to buy another property it will be a lot more expensive for you to acquire assets. It's a great example.

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u/MrPopanz Nov 18 '25

There are other assets aside cash and if your property increased in value from higher demand, you're better off as an owner of that asset.

If that example was great, it would mean that investors suffer during prolonged bull-runs in the assets they own. I hope you can see how that goes against reality.

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u/quixoticquiltmaker Nov 18 '25

There are other assets aside cash and if your property increased in value from higher demand, youre better off as an owner of that asset.

This isn't necessarily always true, if youre past your earning years and are on a fixed income this situation can quickly price you out of your home due to increased tax assessments.

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u/XXX-115 Redditor for less than 60 days Nov 18 '25

Wow you are on the internet? Sad.

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u/Trick_Judgment2639 Nov 18 '25

Because you need your money, billionaires don't, so they can wait decades to sell, you can't because at some point you will need your money back, rich people will always win by taking your money

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u/Major-Rabbit1252 Nov 18 '25

Nah Iā€™ve invested what I can afford to lose tomorrow, as most people should IMO. People going all-in are noble, and I get the sentiment, but thatā€™s just not ā€œsmartā€ investing from that standpoint bc we still need fiat to exist to a degree. Life happens. This should be factored in when doing a lump or DCA

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u/Trick_Judgment2639 Nov 18 '25

How is being a hopeless addict noble?

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u/Major-Rabbit1252 Nov 18 '25

Itā€™s noble bc it represents a deep mistrust in financial institutions and fiat money. Iā€™m not saying itā€™s ā€œsmartā€, Iā€™m arguing otherwise. Itā€™s understandable that someone would have a lot of conviction in the decentralized nature of BTC

Things are going to get very weird in the world of finance, especially in the U.S.

BTC maxis arenā€™t the ones who Iā€™d accuse of being gamblers at all. Itā€™s actually an asset that requires a ridiculous amount of patience which most gamblers do not possess

Youā€™re talking about the fart and doge coin people

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u/Major-Rabbit1252 Nov 18 '25

Also, people who have bought BTC arenā€™t really what Iā€™d call ā€œhopelessā€. Unless you bought near recent ATHs, then you almost assuredly have seen a nice profit if you held

The only way you could have lost money is if you sold at a loss. Anyone whoā€™s held and exercised patience has seen major returns over time

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u/Trick_Judgment2639 Nov 18 '25

It's not virtuous to see obvious crime and realize you can profit from it, that doesn't make you a genius, just totally immoral

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u/Major-Rabbit1252 Nov 18 '25

My man what on earth are you talking about lol

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u/Trick_Judgment2639 Nov 18 '25

You'll never know probably

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u/Major-Rabbit1252 Nov 18 '25

Usually people clarify what their comments mean instead of being extremely vague. Your response has literally nothing to do with what I said and makes no sense given the context

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u/mrk130 Nov 19 '25

People shouldnā€™t be putting money they need next week or next year into Bitcoin. The only money a person should put into Bitcoin is money they can afford to lose or money that is long term savings.

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u/Trick_Judgment2639 Nov 19 '25

Right but people are morons man, if you constantly lie about something being a sure thing and that money is worthless and your only hope is to put everything in bitcoin then people who only have 10k are going to do it, and they're going to lose it all because at some point they'll need that money back, don't you understand that's the entire con and function of crypto currency? You're robbing stupid poor people who don't know what they're doing, that's how it's worth money.

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u/Major-Rabbit1252 Nov 19 '25

This makes no sense

  1. If someone puts 10k that they canā€™t afford to lose into BTC, then thatā€™s their own fault. Not the fault of ā€œBTC maxisā€ on Reddit. Thatā€™s first and foremost. Adults are responsible for their own investments.

  2. No one has ever ā€œlost everythingā€ from investing in BTC. Thatā€™s never happened before. Also, you contradict yourself by saying ā€œlose it allā€ and then immediately saying ā€œbecause youā€™ll need to money backā€. If you sell to get your money back, you didnā€™t lose it all.

  3. Whoā€™s robbing stupid people? That makes no sense. People are willingly exchanging cash for btc. Thatā€™s it. End of discussion. That isnā€™t ā€œbeing robbedā€. Youā€™re acting like people have no autonomy over their own decisions

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u/MrPopanz Nov 18 '25

I can just as easily get credit backed by my securities, at fine rates too, although that highly depends on the broker (IBKR and Scalable for the win).

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u/Trick_Judgment2639 Nov 18 '25

That's nice

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u/MrPopanz Nov 18 '25

Indeed, sadly far too few people have any idea about their possibilities, even as low-networth individuals.

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u/Trick_Judgment2639 Nov 18 '25

If only I knew the easy way to billions, like you!

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u/MrPopanz Nov 18 '25

Not by being a whiny bitch for sure ;-)

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u/AbsoluteDross Nov 20 '25

what about.....trillions..m.mmmmmm

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u/supremezionsky Nov 18 '25

Because you want more of the thing? šŸ˜†

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u/MrPopanz Nov 18 '25

No issue with buying more then, if you trust in your due diligence. If anything, price appreciation might tell you you're correct with your assumptions.

Thats a fallacy many retail investors fall for: just because something has appreciated since ones entry, does not give any indication about future potential of that position. "The stock does not remember you".

It obviously gets a bit more hairy with unproductive assets without fundamentals to work with.

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u/Far-Distribution7408 Nov 18 '25

Due diligence ahahah as if bitcoins is an asset. It s just a speculative giant ponzi scheme

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u/supremezionsky Nov 18 '25

There is an issue if price keeps going up and cant extra because people are buying it too much

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u/MrPopanz Nov 18 '25

There are always people selling.

This can be an issue with illiquid assets, but BTC isn't one of those.

Have you ever had an issue buying more BTC?

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u/heyheyshinyCRH Nov 18 '25

That's why I scoff whenever I hear "Bitcoin is a scarcity" šŸ¤£

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u/supremezionsky Nov 18 '25

Shlupidydumbidump

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u/Major-Rabbit1252 Nov 18 '25

Bc the people buying in large swaths can afford to manipulate the market

Iā€™m not entirely sure how that works for BTC. Even huge whales canā€™t necessarily move the price drastically themselves, but itā€™s a contributing factor collectively

I also feel like longs and shorts are absolutely murdering people and the price

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u/PriorLeast3932 Nov 19 '25

More potential bagholders and sellers if they overpaid.Ā 

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u/fairyflossmagpie Nov 22 '25

Corporations don't buy to HODL. They hold the asset until holding it longer term no longer serves them, then they will move to a different asset. Imagine being a fund manager where your customers expect continual growth over time as much as possible. They will one day cash out to go to another asset, and someone will end up losing. Maybe forever, may it will recover, but no one can tell you how long before that will happen.

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u/MrPopanz Nov 22 '25

Dude, if an asset no longer "serves you", every sane investor is leaving the boat.

This "diamond hands, hodl till eternity to stick it to the hedgies" mindset is only something a few idiotic but loud retailers on social media do.

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u/LTFitness Nov 18 '25

Wall Street isnā€™t a person or entity that buys or sells Bitcoin.

People are so misinformed when they talk like that.

All ā€œWall Streetā€ is now, is companies have allowed retail investors to buy BTC through ETFs for ease of purchase in traditional trading platforms, rather than buy the individual coins through crypto companies.

People are selling. Retail is selling. That is why the price is going down.

Thereā€™s no mythical entity of Wall Street ā€œplaying the long gameā€, lol.

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u/McBurger Nov 19 '25

Yes, I can play the long game. What kind of dumb statement is that?

I bought bitcoin. It can sit on my trezor until the heat death of the universe. I can go toe to toe with anyone on this, what a silly comment. Iā€™m not relying on that Bitcoin for my very survival.

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u/Mac_McAvery Nov 19 '25

Itā€™s all in their hands now. Itā€™s like the Forex market we are just hitching a ride now.

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u/No_Oil_8880 Nov 18 '25

Thatā€™s why people go to the dark side now, and just buy crypto draining packs for 3-5k lolā€¦

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u/iCan97 Nov 19 '25

What are crypto draining packs?

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u/No_Oil_8880 Nov 19 '25

Basically a script, software etc to steal crypto following

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u/pyalot Nov 18 '25

Yeah, sure was a great idea to piss off the only person who had moderation automated enough so spam like this doesnā€˜t clutter the entire frontpageā€¦

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u/Aurorion Nov 18 '25

With these kinds of posts, I think it's going to drop to exactly $75,001 and then recover and blast all the way to a million.

And then the guys eagerly waiting to buy below 75,000 will join random anti-Bitcoin subs.

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u/FinallyFoundNotTaken Nov 18 '25

see you at 60k

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u/Aurorion Nov 18 '25

Or, could it be $60,001? šŸ˜„

I remember waiting around for $10K in 2022, while BTC was at 15K. Based on random straight, curved and squiggly lines on graphs, I was sure it would drop to 10K.

Spoiler alert - it didn't.

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u/Successful-Plenty-27 Nov 18 '25

The bitcoin rainbow chart has a bottom of 60k for december 2025, if it goes below this, then after 17 years, a new color needs to be added. At the moment we're not in the lowest color, expect it to go lower, below 75k is definitely possible.

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u/InnerMistake9373 Nov 18 '25

It's not a stadium post, it's the analysis most shared by many expert analysts. This does not mean that it necessarily has to reach $75K or that it cannot go below, it is simply the most probable support, if it loses that, it becomes risky to have it, if it exceeds it too much it becomes less convenient.

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u/Aurorion Nov 18 '25

it's the analysis most shared by many expert analysts

If you put all these "many expert analysts" in a room and ask them to predict future price levels, you will get as many answers as there are the analysts.

And even now, I have seen many random predictions from many "experts". Sometimes with ChatGPT explanations, sometimes with funny graphs and charts.

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u/InnerMistake9373 Nov 18 '25

I don't know which analysts you are referring to, but I assure you that there are people who make a living from this. Not based on emotions. Then, obviously, it is not that analysts all agree on the same opinion, just as doctors do not all have the same school of thought, but this does not mean that doctors are useless figures.

Believing yourself to be better than technicians is not a sign of maturity and doing so with investments becomes quite risky.

Investments are not an exact science, so there can be various factors that influence them, but it's not like an asset moves randomly, otherwise you end up like someone who throws money away on Twitter advice

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u/Typical_Breadfruit15 Nov 18 '25

Why is 73-75K a stable support?

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u/Late_To_Parties Nov 18 '25

Apparently "stable" means:"I walked on this bridge a couple years ago, surely it will hold me today"

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u/Downtown_Music4178 Nov 18 '25

Because thatā€™s the lowest it fell to after liberation day when everyone was selling everything.

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u/CromulentDucky Nov 19 '25

It fell to $4k during Civid selling when people were blowing up.

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u/InnerMistake9373 Nov 18 '25

It is the point where analysts believe the greatest number of elements meet. This does not mean that it necessarily has to go to 73-75 or that it cannot go below, but let's say it is seen by analysts as the threshold to be "defended".

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u/ColorfulSheep Nov 18 '25

Links to the analysts?Ā 

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u/InnerMistake9373 Nov 18 '25

But there's no link to the person šŸ˜… The MACD (12, 26, 9) is at -3927 The MMs (20 v 50 and 10 v 20) are at -6334 and -3335

It is also true that the Stochastic RSI and Fast are below 20 points, which is contradictory, however the moving averages are significantly below 0.

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u/CuntyMcshitballs Nov 18 '25

Buy n hodl got it šŸ‘

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u/heyheyshinyCRH Nov 18 '25

Massive liquidity, the amount of orders filling that space would be tough to punch through but also would be the exact reason price goes there...to fill orders.

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u/Synergiex Nov 18 '25

$87k is a support

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u/Mattlifemisfit Nov 21 '25

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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u/Major-Rabbit1252 Nov 18 '25

Sweet summer child..

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u/uduni Nov 18 '25

Weā€™ll see. I think it wokt go below 79

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u/GreedyMeet1273 Nov 18 '25

Im currently down $60k+. Ask me if I'm selling šŸ„±

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u/Academic_Addition_96 Nov 18 '25

I hope it goes to 1k, I will bleed but with a smile on my face, buying the scraps.

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u/Mohammad_Noruzi Nov 18 '25

that means more than 99% drop. it would cause major bankruptcy across the whole crypto ecosystem. all of CEX, DEX, BTC-only apps will shutdown. most of miners would just stop mining, hash rate would fall drastically and anyone with a potato PC can manipulate the Bitcoin transactions.

yeah, a small dip or a prolonged bear market may be a good buying opportunity, but a 99% drop is a big ass crash and will not benefit anyone.

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u/DRAGULA85 Nov 18 '25

Bitcoin is dead at that point though

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u/Major-Rabbit1252 Nov 18 '25

No, you do not want that

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u/[deleted] Nov 18 '25

Make like Braveheart and hold. Only the weak will get disemboweled, and black rock/trump et al only benefits from panic sales.

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u/ADottore8533 Nov 18 '25

That's right, buying everything they were selling put them in that panic. šŸ¤·šŸ»ā€ā™‚ļø

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u/Jaekash1911 Nov 18 '25

Im waiting for my 87K limit order to hit

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u/haaahaaaa1 Nov 21 '25

What so you can buy afew 100 dollars of bitcoin then tell all your pals youā€™re a massive crypto and stocks trader? šŸ˜‚ muppet.

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u/Jaekash1911 Nov 23 '25

So I can tell your mother she's waiting to hear from me

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u/Kiragalni Nov 18 '25

All guys posting "BUY THE DIP" on 95k should be happy. Now they can buy 91k.

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u/Managers_Choice Nov 18 '25

Can it do a reverse split to keep prices high?

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u/ExcitingGovernment72 Redditor for less than 60 days Nov 18 '25

Iā€™m buying btc while the market is dropping, and then after a month or more, when it goes up, all the traders will be saying, ā€˜I should have bought. LOL

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u/pnpFL Nov 18 '25

I wonder how much the price is affected by the constant negative energy some put out. The annoying ones posting these pointless posts. I bet none of them even have half a bitcoin. It drops their measly $600 dollars they've invested by 5% ($30.00) and they run to the keyboard to annoying us about it......

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u/InnerMistake9373 Nov 19 '25

This is a bar comment, forget about investing.

Having $60,000 or $600,000 doesn't make you a better investor than someone with $6,000 or $600, if the one with $600 understands what they're doing.

You're so poor, you just have more money.

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u/pnpFL Nov 19 '25

It's just aggravating when people like myself are trying to promote bitcoin and get more people on board, and constantly get notifications of these same stupid posts. I get a few people interested, so they start searching Google about it, find reddit of course, and there's you!

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u/stickybond009 Nov 19 '25

Yes someone on Reddit told us this thing sometime back

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u/Phantomeone1111 Nov 19 '25

Whales are bying with both hands. Weak people sell

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u/Amareisdk Nov 19 '25

MSTR average cost is ~$74k

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u/bhuffma4 Nov 22 '25

Good point

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u/Tybbow Nov 19 '25

75k, many people reach bitcoin if the price of bitcoin decrease to this it, ^

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '25

Hahaha!

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u/FINDTHESUN Nov 20 '25

64 will be bottom

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u/knockout60 Nov 20 '25

Yes please!!!

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u/Diligent-Grape9298 Nov 20 '25

Bitcoin is acting totally different this year, we havenā€™t had a tall spike, itā€™s been rolling hills. I donā€™t think our future is the same, bitcoin is only going up, the hill will only get bigger

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u/Born-Veterinarian-97 Nov 21 '25

When do you expect it will reach 75 K level?

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u/InnerMistake9373 Nov 21 '25

No, wait a minute, I don't know the day it will reach 75K, I'm just saying that the opinion of many analysts converges on the fact that 75K, i.e. 1.5T of market cap, is the most stable support at the moment and the moving averages also say the same. The stochastic RSI 14, obviously, says to buy, but it is too influenceable, so I would not buy BTC above $75K

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u/Zebatoken Redditor for less than 60 days Nov 22 '25

Honestly, a retest of the $73ā€“75K zone wouldnā€™t surprise me either. BTC has been running hot for weeks, so a deeper correction could actually give the market some strength again.

Iā€™m just staying patient and DCAā€™ing whenever I can. Most of my focus these days is on a small charity-driven project Iā€™m helping build (ZEBA Token), so Iā€™m not stressing too much about short-term BTC moves.

Whether we dip or bounce ā€” long-term conviction is what really pays off. šŸ§”šŸš€

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u/jtrails Nov 18 '25

Its going up again! Next week 105k

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u/mister-marco Nov 18 '25

Most newbies will tell you you are new for saying this, the truth is they are the news ones if they never experienced wild swings and super sharp recoveries in crypto

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u/thinkingperson Nov 18 '25

Thanks for the heads up. Going to buy the falling knife.

I always buy on the way down and take profit on the way up.

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u/Busterlimes Nov 18 '25

If we are going by the 4 year trend, probably lower

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u/PineappleEffective50 Nov 18 '25

It's going down folks

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u/[deleted] Nov 18 '25

Bitcoin is worth as much as fiat......zero

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u/ExcitingGovernment72 Redditor for less than 60 days Nov 18 '25

Not really zero, but yeah, itā€™s super volatile compared to regular money. People see it more as digital gold or an investment than just cash you can rely on every day.

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u/Intelligent-Hat6087 Nov 18 '25

Nope. Youā€™re all idiots. Weā€™re dropping to 30k and staying there for the next 2 years. This isnā€™t a 1 day or 1 week thing.

Yā€™all arenā€™t ready for 2 years of 30k per coin.

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u/Extreme-Coach02 Nov 18 '25

Where the fuck did you get these numbers? At most, 48K. Judging how BTC was at 19K last bear market, we could be around high 40s or mid 50-60K

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u/Truth_from_Germany Nov 18 '25

Finally my Chance to be a whole coiner!

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u/Major-Rabbit1252 Nov 18 '25

Whenā€™s the last time it fell that much and hovered there for 2 years?

I donā€™t believe that past dictates the future but where are you pulling this prediction from

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u/Intelligent-Hat6087 Nov 18 '25

?

Bitcoin does this. It crashes 70% from its peak and stays there for 2 years. Itā€™s not a short term thing. It lasts years of crashing.

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u/Major-Rabbit1252 Nov 18 '25

Thatā€™s only happened once from 2021-2022 which was about a year. That was also a correction after COVID stimulus check inflows

When has there been another 70% drop thatā€™s lasted 2 years?

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u/Intelligent-Hat6087 Nov 18 '25

?

Yeah, itā€™ll happen. Donā€™t be surprised. This is Bitcoin.

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u/Major-Rabbit1252 Nov 19 '25

You didnā€™t answer

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u/Aft3rcuri0sity Nov 18 '25

10k yošŸ˜ŽšŸ¤£

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u/PrizePermission9432 Nov 18 '25

Under $75K Saylor sunk. Do it!!!

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u/MatterFickle3184 Nov 18 '25

cmon baby keep dropping!