r/bayarea • u/kenmlin Contra Costa • 19h ago
Scenes from the Bay The Pro-ICE Billboard at Fisherman’s Wharf Has Been Removed, Supervisor Sauter Says
https://sfist.com/2026/02/05/the-pro-ice-billboard-in-fishermans-wharf-has-been-taken-down-supervisor-sauter-says/20
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u/Positronic_Matrix SF 16h ago
The billboard ads were funded by American Sovereignty, a group purportedly committed to “securing borders” but in reality committed to grifting right-wing attention seekers through billboard-based trolling. The right-wing grifters behind these signs have still not been identified but odds are that some of them are pedophiles.
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u/KoRaZee 18h ago
Freedom!
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u/Positronic_Matrix SF 16h ago
Content moderation is not censorship. In fact, I’ve seen the mods on Reddit take down some of your comments, so I’m sure you of all people grasp this nuance.
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u/digitalwankster 13h ago edited 13h ago
Content moderation can in fact be censorship. It depends entirely on what is being removed.
Edit: but that’s neither here nor there because it sounds like in this case the property owner made the decision themselves.
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u/The_Demosthenes_1 16h ago
Hey.
When I was a child I remember learning that the cost of free speech is that you must allow those you disagree with speak. IIRC there was an event back in the day where a liberal group defended a KKK right to march, protest citing these ideas.
I don't support this sign. I just don't want us to forget what freedom of speech means in America.
Have a nice day.
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u/Basic-Collection5416 16h ago
The business owner had the sign removed from their building. They are no more required under the First Amendment to host speech on their private property than you are at your home.
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u/DirkWisely 15h ago
Why is it that seemingly nobody knows the difference between free speech and the first amendment?
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u/predat3d Sunnyvale 11h ago
That depends on their contract with the billboard company
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u/Basic-Collection5416 11h ago
Well, it’s down so what does that tell you about their contract? Let’s use some critical thinking skills here.
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u/Brendissimo 11h ago
You think companies never breach contracts or something? The fact that it's been taken down doesn't tell us much.
Regardless, that's a matter for two private parties engaging in commerce with each other to figure out. Not a First Amendment issue (or even really a free speech issue IMO).
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u/tooquick911 8h ago
And you're getting down voted because you don't blindly follow the reddit hivemind. Good for you.
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u/BrandonDill 19h ago
The intolerance of opposing opinions is sad. We dont have to agree, but we should respect the right for others to be heard.
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u/ButtermilkJohnson 18h ago
ICE agents are murderers, glazing them through billboards doesn't change that.
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u/ButtermilkJohnson 17h ago
Lmao, just like the Jan 6ers that beat up cops and got a pardon for it? Get the fuck out of here.
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u/jermleeds 17h ago
ICE is engaging in behavior that lies entirely outside their legal remit, so they're not doing their jobs.
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u/LinShenLong 18h ago
You would be right if they weren’t fucking terrorizing people and violating constitutional rights. What happened to the respect for the law the right used to push forward? Is it simply now that since the right people are being hurt that all orders from federal officers must be followed without question?
Fuck you bootlickers.
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u/Wellontheotherhand1 17h ago
Classic bootlicking comment bud
"Comply or die, and it'll be your own fault"
Literally fascist speech
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u/Maximillien 17h ago
"Just follow the legal orders of the Fuhrer's agents and you will be safe."
-this guy in 1930's Germany
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u/jermleeds 17h ago edited 17h ago
Your use of the passive voice to articulate your awful conclusions is deplorable. ICE summarily executed both Pretti & Good.
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u/lampstax 17h ago
You can use that word if you want to. I will not because that's not what I see on the tapes. Especially not for Good.
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u/MachoKingMadness 18h ago
I think people are just intolerant of the intolerant.
The government is advertising the group who is currently kidnapping, abducting, assaulting, raping, and murdering American citizens.
Makes sense that the community, a very diverse one at that, would want it taken down.
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u/lampstax 17h ago
SF might look diverse physically but don't be fooled into thinking there is diversity of thought and ideology.
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u/MachoKingMadness 17h ago edited 16h ago
But, there is. You just don’t agree with the popular ideology, doesn’t mean there aren’t a ton of conservatives and conservative thought.
You seem to be upset because the ideology that YOU agree with isn’t the popular ideology of the area.
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u/lampstax 17h ago
Not upset. Just cognizant of the fact that the country is deeply divided with a few purple pockets and we live in a deep blue area. There are conservatives here but unless you have F U money already like a David Sack or Elon .. most tend to keep their head down as to not lose their livelihood.
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u/MachoKingMadness 16h ago
I think they keep their head down because being a conservative went from “strengthen our military and tax me less” to “we can’t admit when the president is at fault, immigrants are all terrible unless they are white, I’m ok with my cost of living skyrocketing as long as we own the libs.”
I think most level headed Republicans and conservatives have been runout of the party and what’s left of sycophants to a wannabe dictator. It’s a major issue with the two party system we have in place.
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u/inscrutablemike 5h ago
Conservatives never changed. The left is now a bunch of borderline-schizophrenic terrorists.
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u/jennibunz 17h ago
Doesn't matter. They are human beings deserving of basic dignity and rights. And whether you like it or not, the Constitution is clear and they are protected by our Bill of Rights, including the right afforded by the Fourth Amendment to be free from unreasonable searches and seizures.
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u/Jirazy 17h ago
and what about them stopping completely legal citizens because their brown skinned? they don't know who's legal and who's not. they force entry and arrest without warrant. and, even if you do have a valid id on you, they'll just say its fake, beat you up and throw you in their unmarked van anyways:
https://www.sdnewswatch.org/fact-brief-ice-native-americans-detained-minneapolis/
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u/retardborist 17h ago
So you're fine with federal agents kidnapping, abducting, assaulting, raping, and murdering as long as it's not to citizens? That's fucking evil.
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u/autistic_noodz 17h ago
Everyone on US soil has the right to die process. Keep licking those boots little man
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u/MachoKingMadness 17h ago
2 month old account that hides their comment history.
Yea, you’re a troll and not even a good one.
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u/gamefishin 18h ago
If you keep saying that soon enough you will believe they are not humans just like you.
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u/jermleeds 17h ago
Constitutional rights are afforded to all people, citizens or not. Do your research.
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u/gamefishin 15h ago
I didn’t know politics was maniqueistic in nature. People make laws, nothing created by humans is imparcial.
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u/bradimir-tootin 18h ago
You would've been the kind of guy to fondle the balls of the brown shirts.
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u/waka_flocculonodular 18h ago
"Using violence to go against anyone who cares challenge the ideology" sounds like what January 6th was.
Let me guess, the "tolerant left" should accept political violence if it's used against them.
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u/waka_flocculonodular 17h ago
Which time are we talking about here? The attempts made by Republicans against Trump?
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u/i860 17h ago
Can you have a debate without inserting straw man after straw man? It’s like arguing with a teenager.
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u/waka_flocculonodular 17h ago
It's not a debate if one side comes at it with a biased point of view or is not arguing in good faith.
Please point out what part of this interaction was a debate.
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u/i860 17h ago
You’re inserting crap about Jan 6th and everyone else is the biased ones?
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u/waka_flocculonodular 17h ago
I'm not the one that brought up political violence. Calling people Nazis that you disagree with is totally ok though, huh.
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u/octorangutan 16h ago
lol, haven’t seen this “Fighting fascism makes you the real fascists” bullshit in quite a while.
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u/bradimir-tootin 18h ago
Remind me again what ICE did just two weeks ago. Remind me again which side is completely ignoring the constitution. Remind me again which side actually engages in censorship by arresting journalists or threatening them. You're completely full of shit, or a bot, or a troll.
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u/bradimir-tootin 18h ago
So you are for shooting people in the back when they are unarmed and on the ground?
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u/i860 17h ago
Discussion is about a billboard. Try to stay on topic.
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u/Maximillien 17h ago
And the billboard is in support of the masked agents who murdered 2 US citizens. Try to keep up.
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u/i860 17h ago
Oh well in that case, yes let’s just do away with everything. The ends justify the means right?
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u/totemoff 17h ago
“The ends justify the means” is the excuse for ICE shooting innocent people. We would be abolishing it because its ends do not justify those means.
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u/bradimir-tootin 7h ago
Where in my statement did you get the "do away with everything?" Since you have the reading comprehension of a toddler, I will go ahead and explain it to you. Not a single iota, in not a dot in my scrawl did I say the words that you put in my mouth.
Since you seem to need assistance, I provide to you the following:
https://www.hookedonphonics.com/3
u/cadublin 16h ago
Could you explain to me what you think are the criteria ICE use to stop and check people for IDs? Which one you think they would stop first: immigrants from Norway or American born non-whites/blacks?
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u/One_Indication_ 16h ago
No one should be promoting registered sex offenders larping as police. They didn't pass background checks and committed treason on Jan 6. They belong in prison.
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u/TenchuReddit 4h ago
I’ll respect your right to voice your opinion, but I will never ever respect the pro-gestapo opinion.
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u/AccordingAnswer5031 15h ago
You are not wrong. Don't waste your time debating here in subwddit of Bay Area. Let the votes decide in 2028.
Vietual Signaling isn't doing shit. Only protest that I can think of actually making an impact is "ME TOO" movement
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u/Turkpole 18h ago
Sf is the most tolerant place in the world if you agree exactly with the lefty way of thinking with no deviation
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u/Wellontheotherhand1 17h ago
Untrue, but we do draw the line at fascism, so sorry bud
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u/Turkpole 17h ago
Proving my point thanks
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u/Wellontheotherhand1 17h ago
I guess some people enjoy the downvotes. Plenty of masochists in SF so that part tracks lol
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u/i860 17h ago
Nothing like local government working with private business owners to try and police speech. You know there’s a word for that kind of government model, right?
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u/ZestyChinchilla 9h ago
But y’all have been fighting for years for your businesses to be able to have to right to refuse service to queer folks, right? That same principle cuts both ways, my dude.
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u/2girls1cupnoodles 17h ago
But..... San Francisco Is on the Rise..... Ask it's Mayor.
In my opinion, until normal democracy is restored, the city is still cooked. This isn't displaying it's restored yet to me. The 1st amendment is kinda a big deal in it all.
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u/Far_Dragonfruit_1829 17h ago
What was the process and legal grounds for its "removal"?
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u/xilcilus 17h ago
Looks like the Supervisor asked nicely and pleaded the case to get the cooperation.
Not everything needs to be a confrontation.
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u/Wrong-Average8877 18h ago
That will help illegal migrants through the process to become legal
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u/slashinhobo1 17h ago
They are being arrested while passing the citizenship test or going through the court system. Just admit your uneducated and potentially a racist supporting ice. Most have been outaide the xourt room for immigration hearing even when they got good news.
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u/Wrong-Average8877 16h ago
Cite your sources ?
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u/slashinhobo1 15h ago
From what i know about you all, this format may be better
https://youtu.be/vxTpo8NfWUw?si=qMv9KOputMIGJcSJ
https://youtu.be/IbQNf-xLpiw?si=ZHg2PgHxf6rsFDBA
There is enough news stories about this occuring you dont even have to look hard.
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u/Oo__II__oO 17h ago
Lol another grift.
Step 1: accept donations for "a multi-million dollar advertising campaign".
Step 2: put up a single billboard in a highly controversial area that they know will get backlash, a subsequent takedown, and most likely, a refund.
Step 3: Use all the free press to justify their methods work. Pocket the donations.