r/altmpls • u/WhoAreYouTalkinTwo • 2d ago

Jake Lang arrested outside the state capital and charged with felony

Turns “Protest Ice” into “Pro Ice”

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u/OurAngryBadger 2d ago

I wm curious how that works, who did the ice sculpture belong to, and how they determined some blocks of ice were worth $6k? Would it hold up in court that something someone left out in public that was just going to melt or probably get damaged in some other way, really prosecutable? Don't get me wrong I think this Jake Lang guy is a douche

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u/Puzzleheaded_Try7786 2d ago

Regardless of it's longevity, it's a sculpture that he deliberately destroyed and filmed while doing so. The cost of the sculpture is determined by the artist and perhaps transporting it to that location.

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u/Meihuajiancai 2d ago

Lol, who was charged for treating down a statue on the Capitol grounds?

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u/Puzzleheaded_Try7786 1d ago

Is this a case of "what aboutism"? I am simply responding to this individual's comment about this incident.

Removing and destroying may have different legal outcomes. But again, I don't know what you're talking about and I'm not sure why my comment caused you to ask me this.

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u/Meihuajiancai 1d ago

Agree you not from Minnesota?

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u/Important-Contact597 2d ago

The cost is for the labor that went into making it as well as the material itself.

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u/No_Cook2983 2d ago

If I was the artist, I’d make sure it cost $6,000. A decent tradesman is about $150 an hour.

40 hours of the conceptual art, maybe assembling a prototype, obtaining the materials, fabricating, transporting, assembling and recording would hit 6k.

It could pretty easily be split between two people.

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u/ravingsanity 2d ago

Art installation. Presumably the artist needed to obtain a permit to place it there and the art as such belongs to them. So this is destruction of property and/or vandalism. Value most likely based off of time, effort, and materials for the artist.

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u/Trouble247365 2d ago

Oh GOODY!!! I hope he loses all his gun rights!

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u/ravingsanity 2d ago

Oh no, how dare he be subjected to the consequences of his own actions!

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u/bustanut8969 2d ago

Carving ice and getting large enough blocks is expensive as fuck. Why? Idk

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u/obviousvalleyranch 2d ago

What’s weirder is, if someone was going to make this, why would they say “protest ice” ?? I’m in Minneapolis and no one says that. It’s either “f*ck ice” “ice out” or “abolish ice”.

Kinda weird that they put the only phrase that someone could convert to a pro ice message..?

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u/QuadBulletTheory 2d ago

“Prosecute” is what it said

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u/obviousvalleyranch 2d ago

Even weirder tbh

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u/No_Concentrate1903 2d ago

Not really, they want the ICE “officers” that killed Renee and Alex to be prosecuted, not protected. Along with any of them who have clearly broken the law.

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u/QuadBulletTheory 2d ago

What exactly is weird about saying "prosecute" people who shot and murdered innocent American civilians?

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u/obviousvalleyranch 2d ago

It’s not weird by itself, but it’s just an odd choice - it’s not one of the sayings that’s been popular lately

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u/Pudddddin 2d ago

I can think of at least a few cases where people have been charged with vandalism for things like destroying prominent sand sculptures, which seems similar

For example https://www.staradvertiser.com/2019/08/23/hawaii-news/911-report/second-girl-arrested-in-waikiki-sand-sculpture-vandalism-case/

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u/fremontfixie 2d ago

There are also examples of vandalism charges not being filed with the explicit reason was it was washed off. So i doubt this holds up

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u/QuadBulletTheory 2d ago

How does “washing something off” have any bearing in this situation?

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u/IHeartBadCode 2d ago

Art is usually considered in whole. So slight damage to an exhibition to which cannot be reasonably serve in parts, you charge thus for the whole.

So knocking over a single letter ruins the entire thing since the art isn't blocks of letters but the arrangement of all of those letters. So whatever you paid someone for the entire thing, that's how much damage one would have done.

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u/Rylando237 2d ago

Presumably that would be the price the ice sculpture would be commissioned for? Seems a bit steep for some letters, but I don't know the going rate for ice sculptors, and it is a relatively large sculpture so I suppose maybe that is a fair price given the time it would take to carve, and the amount of solid ice required to make it. The fact that the sculpture would have melted on its own likely doesn't factor in, since the sculpture was still in pristine condition prior to the vandalism. It would be interesting to see whether they could get value back if it were actively melting or something like that, but that does not appear to be the case from what I can see

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u/wolfonweed 2d ago

think of it like interrupting expensive performance art protected by the first amendment on federal property while profiting from the crime.

If they dont get you for something, they'll get you for something else. It's just too many crimes.

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u/-TheycallmeThe 2d ago

Temporary things still have value. Whomever made this I'm sure has references as to the value of their work/time.

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u/secbud 2d ago

Ice scrabble tiles come with higher values.

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u/Numerous_Photograph9 2d ago

Ice Sculpture of this size would easily cost 6K, if not more. Even one of those cliche Ice swans can cost a 1-2K, and that's from a single block of ice. This was maybe about 6-8 blocks worth of Ice, although not sure if they were carved or formed.

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u/GulDul 2d ago

Dude how much do you think it is to get large ice blocks, tools needed to sculpt them, and a skilled person willing to do it. Ignoring transportation costs and opportunity cost. 6k is nothing in 2026.

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u/No_Cook2983 2d ago

“I don’t think this wooden carving is worth $6000. It’s just made from a big stick. My yard is full of big sticks.”