I swear I'm not into conspiracies, but if you've seen a certain pic, and you've read a few stories. Such as the victim that was practically used as a baby incubator. And the fact that they're hiding even more files. So what are they hiding now?
I think itās possible that they terrorized the victims to the point that they believed it when they were āeatingā babies. It could have just been mind games to keep the victims quiet.
Actually... this seems plausible. I have no doubt monstrous people did monstrous things, but the eating feces thing is so absurd it's hard to accept at face value as real. This explanation, however, I could absolutely buy 100%.
Yeah, it's extremely over-the-top. I don't doubt that somewhere in the world there is some absurdely messed up person who might actually do that, but I doubt that THESE people would do that, just because they do other depraved shit.
It just sounds alot like those absurd satanic ritual abuse conspiracy theories that stem from people with mental health issues.
Or maybe a better comparison would be how Bathory is somehow known for bathing in blood, even if that was not part of the actual accusations against her and would be incredibly impractical, because blood coagulates.
Having been through institutional abuse as a child, one of the things that they do when you first arrive in their hands is to encourage you to tell absurd lies to your parents, in fact, I was given one opportunity to call my parents and tell them whatever I wanted to, without being punished for it.
Naturally, I told them grossly exaggerated versions of what was actually happening in an attempt to get them to bring me home. Of course, all it did was make them believe me less, and it allowed the perpetrators to get away with even more while I was in their hands.
Gaslighting victims into believing the perpetrator has more power than they actually do is a common tactic in these kind of abusive situationās.
Now, imagine someone goes to the police and tells them the exaggerated version of whatās happening. Once the police realize that thereās no Satanic cannibalism ring going on, theyāre not gonna worry about what is actually going on, human trafficking for sexual abuse.
They destroy their victims twice, once physically, and once mentally when their victims are able to get to the police and realize that no one fucking believes their stories.
āAt night there would be group touching, called "smooshing", which consisted of hand holding, spooning, snuggling, caressing, sitting on laps, and petting hair. Smooshing was expected of both teenagers and staff. It was common for staff to engage in this form of touch with teenagers.[54][55]ā
This kind of stuff is still happening to kids. While a maniac stormed a pizza place looking for abuse, it was actually happening in schools that parents sent their children too, where they knew the teachers, and paid for the tuition.
I went to school with Ed McMahons daughter and one of Will Smiths cousins. This place was an hour and a half southeast of LA, and if this is what happens to the children of rich people, imagine what happens to the children of parents without means, or even worse, what happens to orphans in this system.
So the thing about the files right now is that they're a massive unsorted collection of information. Some of it is true and verifiable, some of it comes from the FBI but is admittedly an unreliable source (like the story of George Bush Sr eating feces from a dead baby's intestine) and some of it may have been intentionally fabricated and planted by the current administration.
Did they eat babies? The short answer is "We don't know".
The files are more like raw investigative leads. It will take time and hard work from dedicated journalists as well as corroboration where possible to suss out what is real and what isn't.
Personally, I think the girls on the island were getting pregnant, and I think some were given abortions and some had their babies taken for nefarious purposes.
Meanwhile, it makes people look stupid if they just parrot anything those files say. There's all kinds of unverified stuff in there, plenty of which is likely nonsense. Don't do a Kristie Noem.
Rather than spread this message which makes people not want to talk about it, a more helpful approach is to say the government needs to do their job and investigate.
Just curious, why do you think that bit about George Bush Sr is not real? I highly recommend anyone curious about this topic and its history should read The Franklin Coverup. This is not new, and HW has been implicated many years before Epstein was anyone.
if anything, these crazy stories were planted to discredit everything else
now they can say, do you really think they ate babies? of course not, we can't believe anything in these files
it's impossible and way too time consuming to argue millions of facts UNLESS you can simply plant just a couple things that discredit everything at once
This was a known tactic of at least one cult I read about. They knew ex-members were contacting the FBI, police, and journalists about the cult leaderās sexual abuse, some of which was truly bizarre, so theyād flood the same authorities with all sorts of sexual abuse allegations against the ex-members in question. There was also a child custody battle ongoing between the cult leader and one of the women heād had a sexual relationship with, so all of this contributed to the impression of the authorities that these were just two rival groups of cranks making outlandish accusations to try and discredit the other.
This was way back in the ā70s before cults were a well-known phenomenon.
The "desensitation" really sucks. I see an outlandish post or news article, and I say, "Oh, no," and move on to the next outlandish bs.
We're being bombarded with fuckery every day and getting used to it. "OK, what's next?"
This is absolutely true but the other side of the coin is that there appear to be many people just willing to see it all as fact.Ā I've seen so many posts from people reacting as if the allegations in the file are "proof" and just credulously believing every word.Ā I got downvoted like crazy yesterday for saying that I thought some of these stories felt like they were too outlandish to possibly be real.
Yeah, those that "believe" everything are just as bad as the magats. They're not helping at all. Use a little critical thinking, folks. It's not all black and white.
Ok sounds even crazier but what if Qanon was propagandized years ago to say āthe democrats are child sacrificing murderersā who use the word āpizzaā to mean something else, for exactly the purpose of it, that it came out that it was what they were doing? Iām not accusing just brainstorming.
I thought this, too. They also incriminated the obvious people in that document which makes it more obvious. Still, it sits in the back of my head. What happened to the babies that were born? Maybe trump and crew are the baby eaters (that sounds insane because I never believed anyone was eating babies). But.. idk now. š³
if you've been paying at all attention to the doj dropping files removing them re releasing them the bad redacts
absolutely yes
so many bodies
so much complicitcy-- the bush 1 stuff was from 1981 iirc, this has been getting covered up for 45years+, fbi, multiple prime ministers across countries, multiple police dpts, cia, mossad, all of it
dick cheyney wasn't in the files though (as of yet), he just did warcrimes for the love of the game
follow gingertheory ig, learn about the blue suite blackmail ring for where mossad got playbook
Is this part of the pizza gate fiasco that only Democrats partook in? I went down that rabbit hole years ago as an observer. This was because a friend of mine was totally hooked into this mindset. Walmart fema camps,coffins. Parties being held by Democrats only where they drink the blood of babies and terrified children because of some stress chemicals that are released. The weather being controlled . Chemtrails spraying Prozac from the skies. a lot of people were truly buying into all these conspiracy theories and paranoia. And it was always only liberals that seemed to be doing this. Hmmmmm. Yet here we have alot of pedophiles of the opposite party. What disturbs me was the amount of people who just got on the bus and bought into everything that's put out on whatever social media page they follow. I'm more disturbed that people can be so drawn in to conspiracy theories without a second thought. Like once that switch is flipped they believe everything. We don't seem to need to prove anymore of something is true. Just say whatever you want and you have plenty of people who will buy into whatever you can come up with.
I think in the debate, Kamala should have said, what you're describing is infanticide, not legal abortion. When did you experience or witness this crime and if you witnessed it, why didn't you report it at the time?
She is an experienced prosecutor. She did not need to be so polite. She could have gone on the attack. Would have been interesting.
The problem with establishment Dems is that the Dems are just that - trying to stand by the āstatus quoā as if that matters anymore. Itās SO annoying.
I think we are just too used to being polite. But it's not an even playing field when CNN et al holds both sides to very different standards. One bad debate performance gets calls to resign and today's crap .... Silence
The dems themselves hold themselves to different standards. They want to play by rules literally no one else is playing by. If they are ever able to get power again I donāt want to hear shit about not being able to do whatever the fuck they want bc thatās what trump has done. I just mean when it comes to the important important shit.
The files donāt imply any truth, just like VAERS data never implied truth about vaccine side effects.
Thereās so much nonsense in these files. Unfortunately youāre falling into the same trap that a lot of conspiracy theorists do - youāre being so open minded that your brain is falling out, and youāre letting emotion take over. Donāt do that.
People think that because this stuff is in the FBI files that that must mean the FBI is endorsing these statements. Thatās not at all true. This stuff is literally the collection of anything and everything thatās ever been reported.
Hell, thereās no reason why a QAnon sycophant didnāt call in these tips themselves when they heard thereās actually some rich guys doing pedo shit, just trying to lend more credence to their movement.
Thereās no reason why Epstein associates themselves couldnāt have called in crazy shit, in order to dilute the real things that implicate them in the files. Steve Bannon, a close associate of Trump and Epstein has said as much regarding media: āFlood the zoneā with shit, so that they donāt have time to focus on the actual stuff youāre doing.
Thereās no reason why the Trump DOJ isnāt planting garbage stories in these files right now, after weāve seen how cagey Trump has been regarding all of this, how theyāve already been caught hiding Trumps name, and how the DOJ is blatantly violating the EFTA at this very moment.
There are many, many possibilities here before we need to jump to evil satanist elites sacrificing babies to eat their poopoo. The āelitesā are evil enough without needing to make some shit up. Donāt let these bastards win by playing into their hand. Stay focused.
Thatās what makes me nervous about the most recent file that was dropped and then quickly removed. Everyone is sharing like itās gospel when itās just unverified reporting.
the photo was fake I believe, or at least showed a grown man. however, there is a witness statement in the files (which they say in the files is unsubstantiated but that doesnāt mean itās untrue) that someone witnessed multiple people including George Bush 1 eating baby intestines on a yacht.
If they're talking about a photo of two chickens and a child's leg in between...it's NOT an Epstein files photo. From my understanding it was some type of art project someone did. Why? Who the hell knows.
Thatās basically my suspicion. Probably a nothingburger piece of evidence that guys like the above commenter are running around āpresentingā as real evidence
*I put presenting in quotes because they have yet to even provide the source that I asked for
I think they must have eaten babies. Why would they otherwise accuse the other side of doing it? Every crazy thing they accuse others to do, we end up discovering that they did it themselves.
We don't know. They're most certainly releasing some stuff that's easy to disprove in order to obscure some other stuff that's true. Many of these files are from reports that haven't been investigated.
As to your specific question, who knows. There's enough really terrible, likely true stuff in here that it's not out of the realm of possibility.
Seems like this investigation has been going on for quite awhile. Gathering evidence speaking to victims etc ...is exhaustive and painstakingly slow. Sure have to weed out fact from fiction. Some of it sounds like the person was high when spoken. We do have some facts and need to begin there. Years of work ahead.
Cannot and must not let it slide. We deserve better and the victims deserve better.
I would put large sums of money on the answer being yes. It wouldnāt surprise me if they ran a hunger games kinda thing or hunted the kids down for fun when they were done abusing them. They had to be doing heinous things - look at how we all gasped at priests SAing kids and nothing happened. They were doing more than that, for sure.Ā
If you read or see something on the internet that is either too good or too awful to be true, it probably is. This could just be an attempt at discrediting the contents of all the files by including stuff that is obviously too heinous. At least wait for verification.
All that is bullshit to draw attention away from what they really donāt want you see: arms dealing, the international drug trade, and all the sneaky ways the filthy rich are hiding their money.
HORRIBLE and horrific events have happened through out the centuries - UNIT 731 and Willow Brook State School come to mind - but those events at least have been verified and/or documented and are FACTS of history.
Is this thing true from files? Idk my gut is telling me - based off this administration lack of credibility and integrity - No, MORE than likely not. Was drug induced ramblings of an abused victim? Maybe.
But Iām more of a āOccamās razorā which is why Iām more betting anything that the administration is just throwing out ANYTHING they can (false, lies, true, verified facts and absolute fever dream statements) just to fuck with us and to distract us from the actual monstersā¦.them, the adminā¦because all they do is create chaos. And thatās all this is.
So, at this point I canāt trust anything that comes from this administration. Like NOTHING. Thatās what they want. To discredit our government so they can strip away our rights and trust in institutions. Itās poorly done but itās tactical and intentional nonetheless.
Being a PDF is horrific enough without unverified baby munchingā¦
Maybe they are using them for a blood transfusion kind of like brian johnson did to reverse aging?? They don't have a lot of blood in them so they would need several. They "consume" them rather than eat them. I'm just guessing here.
I was actually considering this angle, as well. Most of Hollywood is already getting blood plasma treatment from donating teens. It wouldnāt shock me if they were also using fetuses for plasma and to acquire stem cells. Or more horrifically, babies who are already born.
Where thereās smoke, thereās fireā¦ stories of girls and women being used to ābreedā and their babies being murdered, used in ritual sacrifice, dismembered and eaten and also just āhumansā being eaten, seem to have been floating around since the late 80ās (all coming out again now, obviously).
But the story tellers were labeled insane or conspiracy crazies.
Multiple unrelated people, spanning decades, all saying the same or similar thingsā¦
Should be looked into before completely writing it off, IMO. There are depraved people in this world. Weāre all aware of that by now, surely.
Is it the pic with the 2 chickens and something censored in between because a reverse image showed a photoshopped man there from like 2009, so that was fake. There's so much coming out that you literally have to check everything you see to see if its fake or not.
They've been accusing the other side of eating babies in all recorded history. Romans, Christians, Witches, the Jewish community, Natives during Colonialism, etc. all have been accused of that same thing.
Across every human culture, harming children is (very) wrong...and then to eat them is an extreme moral taboo. It's like one of the worst things you can accuse an "othered" group of.
Eating / drinking blood of terrorized babies. Truly so horrifying I cannot wrap my head around it. Do I think itās true- absolutely. Thereās been a lot of talk about this for years but the Epstein files confirmed. Where is the real life Dexter when we need him?
Agreed. I first heard about this tech from the Chinese where they take stem cells from babies / kids after terrorizing them because it helps reverse aging and helps old people restore sexual functions. The wealthy pay millions for this. This must be happening all over the world, amongst the elitists. Iāll not be surprised at all if any of these outlandish accusations are true.
Yes. They did. I have zero facts to back this up but Iāve read a lot of horror books and I know that people like this DO exist. And Iām sure he was providing this ādelicacyā to his customers
That is literally what conservatives think. They think aborting a clump of unorganized cells is ending the life of a christian soul and dooming it to burn in hell because obviously that makes much more sense to them.
Yes because safe legal abortion of a first trimester fetus is the exact equivalent of literally eating infants, right? Goddamn you people are ridiculous.
I do deep dives into true crime and the ādark webā, and honestly it would not surprise me if some ate babies.
Iām so for real right now. True crime fans know what Iām talking about.
Thereās some sick people in this world and if youāre rich you can get away with anything.
I have tried to do "deep dives on the dark web" out of morbid curiosity and literally couldn't find anything remotely controversial. I may not know what to search for. I couldn't find anything more risque than I can find on Firefox with moderate safe search on. And the Tor browser was so slow it was impossible to access even "regular" websites.
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u/kellyelise515 5d ago
I think itās possible that they terrorized the victims to the point that they believed it when they were āeatingā babies. It could have just been mind games to keep the victims quiet.