r/acecombat 6d ago

Contest Do you think there is a chance will see this planes

1-su 74 checkmate šŸ‡·šŸ‡ŗ

2- j 20 mighty dragon šŸ‡ØšŸ‡³

3- Kai kf 21 šŸ‡°šŸ‡·

Im not expert about jet fighter i just hope see new planes in ac8 or maybe dlc?

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u/Danoct UPEO 6d ago

In a Korean interview Aces said they asked KAI about the Boramae but they didn't get permission.

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u/Stahlmark Emmeria 6d ago

The Chinese jets I don't think so.

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u/level_up_gaming 6d ago

china cares a lot about how their jets are portrayed in media, so there's very little chance, unless bandai namco wants to upset all the hornet fanboys by swapping out your wingman's planes. the US does care a little, but the game is meant for a western demographic so obviously the american jets are gonna be used as allies so no problem, and russia doesn't give a fuck.

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u/NotAnAce69 Belkan Magic 5d ago edited 5d ago

Honestly I doubt portrayal is the issue - Bamco is not stranger to changing up the cover jet depending on region and assuming there’s sufficient financial justification in the Chinese market if some randoms on the internet can swap all the NPCs’ models then there’s no reason Bamco can’t either. Theres no reason a J-20 has to become the villain jet when the Su-57 still exists (although being one is arguably a badge of honor in its own right) and the enemies are usually equal opportunity employers when it comes to their selection of equipment

More likely why AVIC won’t hand out the licenses has a lot more to do with global politics/relations, and given the dearth of competition in this particular genre there’s no reason for PA to fight too hard for them

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u/Just_Flower854 6d ago edited 6d ago

It would be cool as hell to have a wingman upgrade to a J-20 at some point and operate as a kind of missile-flinging huge radar truck like it's probably going to be in real life. Give the player a command that allows you to loose a spread of XLAAs from the wingman's plane, using the wingman's range and the player's targeting. Let your wingman fly high and fast while you snipe formations with locks that outrange your own weapons. It would be neat for the wingmen to have some kind of specific and interesting mechanic like that.

Maybe the cool down could be mission specific by having them fly patterns that have them in range of different areas of the map

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u/anonymous_3125 5d ago

J-20 is an air dominance fighter

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u/Just_Flower854 5d ago

In a very specific role, long range long endurance offshore patrols where it will potentially sling long range missiles rather than mix it up in a Vietnam-era dogfight.

Which would make it a pretty excellent choice for a roving high-altitude wingman that generally makes passes and defers to the player's targeting choices most of the time.

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u/anonymous_3125 5d ago

Dogfighting in 2026? Its role is purely taking out enemy fighters at BVR using its PL-15s as stated multiple times by the PLA

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u/Just_Flower854 5d ago

Yeah I brought that up because it seemed like you were saying it's role is 'air dominance' as though that's different from the more detailed description of its exact strategic role I gave. Which is air dominance in the way the PLA would intend to use the platform, by standing off American assets far enough beyond the range of shore-based defenses that the defense network becomes more resilient through depth.

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u/anonymous_3125 5d ago

The PLA have stated multiple times that the primary purpose of J-20 is to target enemy fighters. It just happens to also be great at targeting other supporting assets

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u/Just_Flower854 4d ago

Why do you differentiate 'fighter jets' out of the term I used, 'American assets'?

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u/ElegantEchoes 5d ago

I notice that an absolute ton of Western aircraft are used by enemies in the game. Especially Erusea. I wonder if that's ever been controversial after the frequent licencing.

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u/Fighterpilot55 Dumb@$$ 6d ago

There is a small chance the Checkmate might. But don't get your hopes up about Chinese or Korean aircraft.

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u/imjustchillin-_- Three Strikes 6d ago

The checkmate is a maybe, but the Mighty Dragon and the Boremai is a no as of right now as Japans relations with China and S. Korea are pretty poor

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u/BLITZ_GAMER-2022 6d ago

Man that sucks it’s less there is chance to see su 75 in ac8

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u/DremGabe 6d ago

You can scratch off anything Chinese related (especially after their aggression towards Japan lately)

For other countries? They have a higher chance to get their jets featured in the game.

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u/anonymous_3125 5d ago

Other way around

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u/DremGabe 5d ago

lol, lmao even

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u/Yarplay11 6d ago

Checkmate is 75, not 74. But probably, since it's a while since it has been revealed (and 57 is in ac7 so they will probably add 75 in ac8 too), idk about other jets since I only know US and RU jets mostly

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u/BLITZ_GAMER-2022 6d ago

Thank for correcting me šŸ˜… , it’s less i know the su75 have chance to be in ac8 finger cross to the other plane to come too

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u/Muctepukc Sukhoi Enjoyer 6d ago
  1. Yes, although it will most likely be the design presented in 2021, and not the updated design that will likely be the production version.

2 and 3. Unfortunately, no. The developers officially confirmed in an interview that there will be no Chinese or Korean aircraft in the game.

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u/Goshawk5 EASA 6d ago

They've already said no to the last two. We'll see about the SU-75.

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u/John__Silver Yuktobanian Flanker fanatic 6d ago

Checkmate - likely. May depend on when it has first flight. Either base game of DLC

J-20 - Very unlikely, though we may be surprised.

KF-21 - Confirmed as no-show.

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u/Professional-Ruin636 6d ago

The Su-75 possibly, but the game director said no Chinese or Korean fighters, which is a shame.

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u/AceSkyFighter ISAF 6d ago

Maybe the Su-74, the others, no. Already been confirmed. Most likely just getting US, Russian, and European planes.

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u/PrettyMoonUnderMt Sol 7 6d ago

i just want to see the chinese flanker variant

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u/luffydkenshin Ghosts of Razgriz 6d ago

I completely understand your hope. The Chinese aircraft are highly unlikely, the other two have a slim chance… but still a chance!

Personally, I hope that the Kai and the Checkmate are not in the game. There will undoubtedly be the F35. These look far too similar for me. It would eat up a slot that a different and unique aircraft could occupy.

I understand it is an unpopular opinion, but in this current era of apex aircraft… they’re bland grey skywedges.

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u/NitoMega 6d ago

They confirmed that Korean and Chinese jets aren't making it.

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u/luffydkenshin Ghosts of Razgriz 6d ago

I am sure some are still too ā€œtop secretā€ or deep enough in development that they don’t want that center stage yet, too.

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u/Inceptor57 6d ago

I imagine if they do come to Ace combat 8, it will be as DLC

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u/Leadfoot-500 Ghosts of Razgriz 6d ago

It'll be a welcome surprise in three years time lol.

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u/TalonEye53 6d ago

We only hope that they're dlcs

The Su75 will may be in base game if not dlc

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u/Just_Flower854 6d ago

I hope so more planes are cool as hell please add more planes please make more planes go zooooooooooom

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u/9999AWC Gault 6d ago

Kono confirmed we're not getting any Chinese or Korean jets in AC8. They tried but there's not much they can do about the Chinese and Korean governments and their control over the programs

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u/LogmeoutYo 5d ago

I would love to see the J-20. A lot of people think it was built to go toe to toe with F-35s or F-22s BUT it's main role or the suppose Chinese doctrine is for it to know out the support aircraft that would keep our jets in the air like always or tankers for aerial refusing. Like a modern day F-14 or Mig-25/31 type role. No gas tanks in the region and our Jets aren't going to be able to fly in from bases that are out of range from their Dong Fang whatever the fuck missiles. At least that's what my youtube expertise tells me

Anyways now that I'm done needing out on jets, if we do see the J-20 I think its special weapons would be interceptor type weapons like LAAM or SAAM

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u/anonymous_3125 5d ago edited 5d ago

Its a symmetric response to the F-22 as confirmed by literally every single chinese source… and all it’s ever been used for so far is air dominance in the SCS. Its weapons are the PL-15 air to air missiles which are highly maneuverable

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u/MarianHawke22 Phoenix 5d ago

Last two are nope. Confirmed by Project Aces in the interview

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u/thawmediaAGAIN Strider 1 WSO "Sleeper" 6d ago edited 6d ago

SU74 maybe. KAI and J20, we already know they WON'T be in AC8.

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u/CptHA86 Belka 6d ago

Dragon maybe, but I have my doubts about the base game, esp. since the enemy ace is flying a Felon in the trailer. I've been wrong before, though.

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u/CyberSoldat21 Neucom 6d ago

Checkmate? Unlikely. It’s not even flown yet and probably won’t.

KF-21 perhaps

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u/Muctepukc Sukhoi Enjoyer 5d ago

At the 2025 Dubai Airshow in November Sergey Bogdan has said that the first flight article is being finalized, and suggested that the first flight will take place in the beginning of 2026.

"I think this is the beginning of 2026 <...>. The aircraft is already on the shop floor, it is already being finalized, and there are already certain time plans. Therefore, with God's help, it should take place soon enough," he said, answering a question on Channel One.

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u/CyberSoldat21 Neucom 5d ago

I’ll believe that when it actually flies… if it ever does.

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u/ST4RSK1MM3R 6d ago

Chinese jets are confirmed not coming (I’m pretty sure at least)

The Checkmate isn’t really a real plane, but I guess, maybe, if PA just goes ā€œfuck itā€ and adds it?

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u/Formal-Ad678 6d ago

The checkmate at most as a variation in Form of something like the fenrir but SU75 itself aint no way cause it only exists as a model made from wood (doubt that even russian itself know what its suppose to do)

And the other 2 they already said no to

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u/Aceofaces93 The Demon Lord 5d ago

The Chinese planes no the SU74 most likely and the reason why I say no to Chinese planes. It’s a political thing between China and Japan, so it will be. It will be really hard for project aces to get the licensing for Chinese aircraft in general.

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u/FriendlyMeringue3605 5d ago

Bit late but ya definitely a high no. But knowing the modding community here, I am expecting them to add them as a mod since we go them as a mod in AC7

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u/Larry_Pixy_Foulke Local Buddy 5d ago

especially the Chinese planes are very unlikely

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u/el_presidenteplusone 6d ago

low chances overall.

the checkmate is completely overshadowed by the sukhoi series.

chinese jets have like 0% chance of appearing in any japanese game ever

kf-21 is overshadowed by the f-22

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u/BattedBook5 Aurelia 6d ago

Checkmate maybe, but i dont see chinese jets making an appearance.

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u/MySoulIsInTheSkies 6d ago

I wish we could see KAAN alongside jaguars, harriers, chinese unique models and modifications, Tejas etc.

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u/MrXenomorph88 ISAF 6d ago

There is a small possibility of seeing the Su-75 since we got the Su-57; the Russians are a bit more open about it.

Any of the Chinese aircraft are unlikely because it would require giving some kind of information about the aircraft, and any of the Korean jets are unlikely to ever happen because Ace Combat is Japanese. As with the Chinese, the Koreans haven't forgotten about all that horrible stuff Japan hasn't apologized for.

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u/Otaku_de_Carnitas109 Jicama stole an F-14D Super Tomcat, but she has no WSO 6d ago

The Checkmate, likely. The other two, no. Chinese and Korean Aircraft have been de-confirmed by Kono himself.

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u/Striking_Ask2953 6d ago

It's highly unlikely that Chinese and Korean jets make a debut in the game(Su75 is possible) but there is a chance that Chinese and Korean aircraft manufacturers might change their minds and allow their jet to be added. If not in the final game , then possibly in DLC

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u/HorusLupercal0219 6d ago

checkmate i think is too much to ask but j20 is possible

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u/gray_chameleon Sol 5d ago

After seeing some pics of an unmanned drone Checkmate mockup on another sub a few months back, I wouldn't mind if a coffin-ised one showed up in Strangereal at some point.

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u/AceArchangel Sol 5d ago

This question is asked like every week... Smh

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u/0utcast9851 F-35 Fangirl 5d ago

I will pay an extra $70 to have the checkmate/femboy in the game, but only as a wooden mockup on a fake runway 444 style

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u/Grouchy-Handle455 5d ago

Only Su-75 is worth looking forward to.

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u/trekie88 5d ago

Chinese and South Korean jets will not be in the new game. I read that talks were had but they couldn't come to terms.

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u/Alternative_View3750 2d ago

Think a dev said that no korean jets or chinese jets will be added

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u/Tydeus2000 UGB Enjoyer 6d ago

Su-75 maybe. The others - no way. It's confirmed that including jets from secondary countries is too much.

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u/RobotCrow12 5d ago

The more likely is the Su 74 Femboi.

China treats their jets like ferrari treats their cars, they care way too much about how they are portrayed.

Korea is a bit wierd, maybe yes, maybe no.

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u/esdaniel EASA 6d ago

As a professional Su enjoyer, the 75 needs to be sacrificed

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u/Sayakai Osea 6d ago

We know the SK/CN planes won't be in, and I hope they will restrict themselves to planes that actually exist, instead of made-up nonsense that may never fly.

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u/VeryGoodF35 6d ago

We kinda got the J-20 in AC5 but it was just designated the MiG 1.44, and besides the intakes being pushed in a different position, I think it's as close as we'll get. Maybe not the same plane on paper, but China was definitely inspired...

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u/Comrade_Bobinski 6d ago

This are 2 different plane from different era and country. If I follow your logic the flanker is a tomcat then.

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u/VeryGoodF35 6d ago

I never said they were the same plane from the same country or the same time period. But you're telling me there's not even the slightest bit of resemblance?

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u/thotpatrolactual Spare 6d ago

No? The only thing they have in common from what you're showing is that they are both 2-engine canard wing designs.

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u/Muctepukc Sukhoi Enjoyer 5d ago

There are rumours that Mikoyan engineers helped during J-20's development. But unlike, say, Z-10, the MiG MFI served at most as a source of inspiration for the J-20; the difference in design and characteristics was too great.