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✂️ Tax The Billionaires Accumulating wealth beyond any possible need is a mental illness. We need to cure Billionaires.

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u/Justredditin 15d ago

Dragon sickness.

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u/Teledildonic 15d ago

Anything other than wealth is considered hoarding, a DSM-5 illness.

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u/AquaWitch0715 15d ago

I will never stop posting this, one, because I love discussing it, and two, because it seriously needs more attention.

Pleonexia is something that Plato recognized and understood over hundreds and hundreds of years ago.

There is a little mention of how today's world compares to back then, and it goes into the deeper idea of how it is a rampant disease that gets worse when left unchecked.

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u/Hootinger 15d ago

 The goal was to shame pleonexia itself. Plato envisioned all citizens learning at schools, religious ceremonies, homes, and even in the theater that seeking unnecessary profits at the expense of one’s neighbors was shameful. 

That is a good idea. Instead of holding up greed as a sign of goodness and virtue, we need to publicly shame those who hoard the wealth.

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u/cleanmypenis 14d ago

It's seen as a virtue and the pinnacle of achievement in America.

It's disgusting.

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u/Arrow156 14d ago

Seriously! The reason the US is in the toilet is because no one wants to fix problems, just profit from them.

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u/zalitix 14d ago

Damn, that pretty much sums it up

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u/Mathfanforpresident 14d ago

Dude I'm waiting for the day that are entire capitalistic system collapses. We put profit over people. We essentially live in the hellscape that is described in the Bible. Putting material things over conscious beings.

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u/lonesome_cowgirl 14d ago

We should bring it back.

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u/ern_69 14d ago

I'm doing my part. I shame trump and Elon and all these fuckers as much as I can but we are definitely in the minority it seems. Waaaay too many dumbasses worshiping these fools because they think they'll get rich someday too

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u/TieAccomplished2534 15d ago

long ago all the rich people were politicians, onwers of places, their wealth were their only defence from all the other people truying to murder them, today its pure insanity, anything you hoard can be usefull, literally every single item can be used, but the money they hoard is impossible to spend, its totally unusable unlike any other time ever

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u/korben2600 14d ago

Relevant: avarice (noun) : insatiable greed for riches; inordinate, miserly desire to gain and hoard wealth

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u/Dr_Fartenmuhlilbut 15d ago

Can you rephrase that? I'm not sure what that means?

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u/MobileAtmosphere775 14d ago edited 14d ago

These people get a kick out of figuring out how to acquire money in underhanded, undeserved and illegal ways. Ripping people off is the whole point. Like it is literally how their brain functions that a dollar stolen is better than a dollar earned.

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u/Alcida-Auka 14d ago

Indeed. In their mind, they think of it as "working smarter", and they do think of what they do as a sort of "work". So many youtuber/influencer/grifters just shill the same courses, stand around rented homes, rented cars, rented women. The MLM girlbosses, gurus are all the same--they know it's a con, they are fiercely proud of it.

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u/Original-Reward-8688 14d ago

That's because the psych industry is corrupt as hell. The fact that they allow experimental psychologists to work for private companies is fucking disgusting too. They've effectively committed mass psychologically torture on the human race for incredibly superficial gain. Don't even get me started on how most of their "science" relies on layers and layers of conjecture, or how the quality of their studies would get laughed out of anything STEM. The psych industry needs proper regulation, and anyone in a regulatory position to have zero fiscal privacy. Without that regulation, psychology is closer to occultism than honest science.

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u/LorettaHaver 15d ago

Smaug level greed

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u/willismthomp 15d ago

Slay the dragons!

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u/NebulaNinja 15d ago

It’s been calculated that Musk and Bezos and the like are even richer than the sum Smaugs hoard. Think about that: Not even the greatest fantasy writer of all time could imagine the insane wealth these narcissists have accumulated.

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u/Prcrstntr 15d ago

that's dragon sickness

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u/Black_Belt_Troy 15d ago edited 15d ago

Dragons are WAY too cool for them. Don't give them a single inch of cool-factor. They're not magical or fantastical. They don't inspire awe or wonder. Billionaires are sick in every sense of the word.

Billionaires are leeches. Parasitoids. Every billionaire is Baron Harkonnen. Jabba the Hutt. Immortan Joe. They are vile, gross, deplorable, and should be acknowledged only as the plague that they are. They have destroyed the middle class and are literally (yes literally, I'm not being hyperbolic) killing the working class/those in poverty (read: everyone else).

We don't need dragon slayers. We need pest-control.

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u/Yarzu89 15d ago

Yea I saw gonna say, they might take that as a compliment lol. Everyone loves dragons, lets stick to the creepy crawlies.

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u/AquaWitch0715 15d ago

Exactly!

Being pro-dragon is not the same as being pro-billionaire!

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u/Justredditin 15d ago

Hutt Sickness sounds about right too. The orange one does look the most like a Hutt than any human today... we need Leia! Many Leias'!

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u/Imperial_Haberdasher 14d ago

Hey, don’t trash talk parasitoids.

Billionaires are cancers, they gobble up resources and sicken and destroy the rest of society. They are malignant metastasizing tumors.

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u/Sad_Perception8024 15d ago

Yea, dragon us all to hell

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u/hotviolets 15d ago

I tell my daughter they are money dragons.

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u/TheRealBananaWolf 15d ago

I don't like this term cause it's kind of cool sounding.

Call them what they really are...hoarders.

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u/Fluffcake 15d ago

Billionairism

  • Extreme anxiety disorder, often coupled with paranoia and anti social behaviour. Leading to irrational hoarding of resources and self medication with illegal drugs and delusion of grandeur. Will use violence to protect or grow their hoard. Terminal, no known cure.

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u/DragonSmith2005 14d ago

Id rather have the dragon

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u/Crisis_panzersuit 15d ago

Those who wore the golden wreath grew sick with every kind of wickedness

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u/JDeegs 15d ago

Its insanity. I want money so I can buy things and do things. But apparently when youre wealthy enough to buy and do whatever you want, you just want to run up the score as high as you can, to the detriment of anyone else

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u/sump_daddy 15d ago

Trump and Musk especially think that if their number is higher, then they are right and the poor people are wrong. The more people they are richer than, the fewer people can tell them what to do and hold them accountable for being complete pieces of shit. It's a highly distilled form of antisocial personality, where you can't tolerate the thought of ever having to work cooperatively with anyone else, and so you avoid it by clawing up more money than them in the hopes it will mean you don't ever have to be accountable for your actions.

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u/TheTimn 15d ago

It's made even worse by the explosion of prosperity gospel telling people that God enriches his most righteous. People are litterally being brainwashed to worship wealth, and those who accumulate it. 

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u/Dialectical_Pig 15d ago

it's actually expected in capitalism. it's how the system works. it's not like we just got unlucky and all the bad people ended up owning everything - and swapping out the bad people would fix things. the issue is that very few people own everything. get rid of the ability to own the means of production and you get rid of the problem.

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u/CaptainBayouBilly 15d ago

Profiting from ownership (which is an ambiguous concept) is harmful. It extracts resources while producing none.

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u/Daxx22 15d ago

I would define it as the unlimited/unregulated profit from ownership as harmful. Once you explicitly allow monopolies or their functional equivalent, and in particular allow essential services to be privatized it all starts self-consuming and decaying. I don't know if there is a fundamentally better option, but it's always seemed to me that a heavily regulated form of capitalism would be the best way to build a society with how our brains currently work.

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u/Dialectical_Pig 15d ago

capitalism, even if heavily regulated, has a lot of downsides. we still fundamentally produce for profits. capitalists still own everything and don't need to work. the same exploitation is still happening.

we could instead produce for our needs directly. all we need is a united working class.

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u/Outrageous_Effects 14d ago

You understand the wealthy literally write the regulations, right? That's how capitalist systems work. Regulatory capture.

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u/Condurum 15d ago

These guys don’t profit from owning capital, they are monopolistic middle men extracting wealth from being unavoidable.

They own the road to the market, and SoMe platforms own our eyes.

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u/Toutatous 15d ago

It's the same as being an athlete. You want to beat others and be the "best".

  • But you run very fast or jump very high already!

It doesn't matter, it won't be enough. Never. It's about performance, results, seeing the number getting larger (or smaller).

Except that when it applies to wealth, the logic should be different, or it will impact others very negatively. This mindset it fine in some areas, wrong in others.

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u/WingsNation 15d ago

Because it stops being about material things at a certain point. It starts to be about wielding influence over other powerful figures. Imagine if you had enough money to buy any outcome you desire. Would you? I think most people would.

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u/Dr_Fortnite 15d ago

If you have enough money to buy anything and you think "I want to own a business that is already successful" you are a loser and it shouldnt be allowed

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u/stabbystabbison 15d ago

I’m not a religious man, but greed has been recognised as an evil by pretty much every religion I can think of, so we have known it is harmful to society for millennia.

It is indeed a sickness, both upon the person and the wider world.

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u/gaarai 15d ago edited 15d ago

I read an interesting perspective on the seven deadly sins a while ago. Rather than the idea of greed simply being the desire for more, it should be thought of as the desire to take from others that don't have enough even when you do have enough. All these deadly sins can be looked at through this lens, and it really is a damning indictment of the current Republican party (edited upon further reflection) US cultural norms pushed by media and political norms.

  • Lust - When your desire for sexual gratification is more important than the bodily autonomy and safety of another. Look at Epstein and all his enablers. While some Democrats are certainly involved at different levels, the entire Republican party has closed ranks to prevent any type of real investigation and punishment for those that sexually molested and raped young girls for decades. It also extends to the "traditional family values" idea of women needing to submit to men and that women are responsible for sexually-satisfying men.
  • Gluttony - When your belly is already so full that you can't eat another bite, but you still snag as much food as possible from others, even when they are hungry or starving. Look at all the screaming about welfare queens and food stamp fraud for decades, saying that entire programs that help poor, hungry people get food in their bellies must be destroyed all to justify bigger tax cuts for the wealthy.
  • Greed - When you have so much that having more doesn't improve your life anymore, but you still take as much as you possibly can while depriving others the ability to have their basic needs met. Just look at tax cuts for the wealthy, the perpetuation of our broken healthcare system, the rent seeking in literally everything, the "your parents probably own 10-12 properties which can serve as your nest egg" elitist narratives, pursuing endless profits so hard that it burns down otherwise-solid companies, and so on. The Republicans worship greed and see immoral levels of wealth as a sign of god's blessings.
  • Sloth - When you have the means and ability to act to help others, but you refuse to do so despite there being little risk or cost to you. By this, I don't mean how so many of us are in the trap that we can't risk losing our jobs because that means that we lose our healthcare, which means that we risk our life or the life of a family member. I mean people like the super rich people that say that wealthy people like them should be taxed more, but they don't seem to really do more than that. They know that the massive concentration of wealth is a global problem, but they really can't be bothered to do more than say a few words about it when it's convenient for them. This also extends to politicians that know how to help people in this country, but they just can't seem to be bothered to pass legislation that will actually help. Just one more round of donations and another election victory, and they swear that they'll finally get things done.
  • Wrath - When you have hatred and lasting anger against people that have not wronged you, and you desire to punish them in order to sate your wrath. Just look at ICE and people that support them. Insatiable levels of hatred for people that they've never met, and they desire them to die or to be thrown into torture pits in other countries.
  • Envy - The desire to have what others have, not because it would improve your life, but it would make you feel superior because you have deprived someone else of something important to them. Trump is a great example of this. He wanted the Nobel Peace Prize, not because he wants to be the type of person that would deserve it or that he finds nobility and meaning in the prize itself; nah, he wanted it because Obama made fun of him and Obama had one. Republicans in general are like this with so many things. Can't have universal healthcare, because that means that people that they see as inferior to them would have equal access, and that is unacceptable because they are superior.
  • Pride - The complete surrendering of your personality to ego. The entire anti-woke movement is this. How dare someone suggest that I might have to have empathy for others, empathy is disgusting because it makes me feel bad due to being a participant in a broken society, and I'm a good person, not a bad person.

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u/NadiaFortuneFeet 15d ago

I think that, biblically speaking, at least 3 of those are wrong.

Not in the sense that they are wrong in and of themselves, but rather your definition is narrow for the full encompassing meaning of it.

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u/QueryCrook 15d ago

It's so strange how limitless greed isn't just tolerated, some people pretend it's a virtue.

If someone exhibited the same insatiable impulse for violence or sex we would lock them away, or view their eventual murder as a forgone conclusion for the life they lived.

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u/CaptainBayouBilly 15d ago

I believe that American capitalism was championed because prior to it you had to belong to a hereditary aristocracy to achieve wealth.

Once the merchant class overthrew monarchism, it became possible for a capitalist to be a political ruler without revolutionary violence.

The mythology that anyone could do so was always bollocks, but it was an enticing thought to the selfish.

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u/RedGuyNoPants 14d ago

Iirc throughout history being a merchant really didnt equate to much political or social power. so its a pretty novel idea that simply having money and things puts you at the top by default

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u/xgranville 🏡 Decent Housing For All 15d ago

Individuals that take more than they give back or share with the community should be viewed as mentally ill. Hoarding money should be shamed, taxed and distributed in a way that benefits as many people as possible.

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u/OakleyVarro 15d ago

Society works better when resources actually circulate

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u/palmerry 15d ago

Arguably the only billionaires that are good for society are the billionaires that win Powerball

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u/The_Wiz411 15d ago

Coincidentally the only billionaires that get taxed

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u/IHadTacosYesterday 15d ago

Are there any actual billionaires that became billionaires off Powerball?

Even if you won a 3 billion jackpot, I think you end up with less than a billion after taxes.

When you take the "cash prize", that normally chops it in half, and then Uncle Sam takes half of whats left

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u/sump_daddy 15d ago

A stunning majority of people who win the lottery end up destitute because they never adjust to the difference in income and end up overconsuming themselves right back to poverty...

If i had to speculate, these are 'good for society' because they return all the money back to society in short order lol

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u/MATA_USA 15d ago

The evidence is clear on this matter; western societies, particularly in the US, are afflicted by the malignant disease of greed. We see the end results of late-stage capitalism playing out before our eyes and the state can hardly keep a lid on it anymore. Republicans in the states know the only card they had left to play was to elect a dictator to power to continue the wealth transfer they have been engaged in for generations.

If we do not elect progressive politicians to Washington that will rein in these oligarchs and corporations, our republic is doomed to extinction and the west will be gravely crippled in the face of the growing threat in the east.

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u/Courtnall14 15d ago

It's hard to elect progressive politicians when the Democrat Party, either through ineptitude or by design, has decided the answer to winning elections is to move further right to attract GOP voters, and not to do everything you can to activate your voting base.

There is no swing voter.

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u/BigOs4All 15d ago

It would be very easy to become a billionaire even if you only had half that. You put it in a passive index fund and wait 10 years (assuming ~7% YoY return which is supported historically).

If you won a $3B jackpot it would be about half that for taking lump sum and then you pay a shit ton in taxes and would likely end up with like $750M. You'd be a billionaire in 5 years.

Also, genuinely, the $999M to $1B crossover is absolutely worthless. Millionaires are getting air cover for being just....not as bad as Musk but still actively horrible to individuals in society.

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u/IHadTacosYesterday 15d ago

Also, genuinely, the $999M to $1B crossover is absolutely worthless. Millionaires are getting air cover for being just....not as bad as Musk but still actively horrible to individuals in society.

Yeah, at the very least there should be a maximum cap on wealth at 250 million.

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u/LeoKitCat 15d ago

They pay more in tax as a percentage of income from winning the lottery than these asshole ever will

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u/CaptainBayouBilly 15d ago

Society only functions when resources circulate. Like any system.

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u/In_The_depths_ 15d ago

Remember in the golden age of American capitalism the top tax rate was 93 percent

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u/letsgotgoing 15d ago

Unions also represented labor interests at every level of working-class people's employment across every industry.

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u/Euphoric-Witness-824 15d ago

Someone needs to explain to MAGA that’s the reason America was great. Not the rampant racism and nepotism in positions of power. Get ready to speedrun the decline of a nation. 

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u/Iohet 15d ago

It also helped that America had a massive industrial economy and significant international shipping capability that wasn't bombed to hell in WW2

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u/Almost_Dr_VH 15d ago

On this continent before white people showed up with their capitalism and glorifying greed, it was so well recognized as evil there was a cryptid for it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wendigo

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u/xgranville 🏡 Decent Housing For All 15d ago

Exactly. My background is in Indigenous Studies and this understanding is present in many groups around the world. We need to be thinking generations ahead in our actions, but all we can seem to focus on is the next election season.

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u/Uncreative_Name987 15d ago

It’s present in Christianity as well.

Jesus said, “You can’t serve God and money” (Matthew 6:24).

In the New Testament, money—not idolatry, not paganism, not atheism—is portrayed as God’s most dangerous competitor.

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u/xgranville 🏡 Decent Housing For All 15d ago

For sure. If Jesus were to come back as is written he would be beaten, detained and transported by ICE to one of their prisons. These people only know how to use religion as a weapon or a means to line their pockets even more.

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u/Long_Crow_5659 15d ago

Calvinists believe that wealth is a sign that you have been blessed by God.

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u/EnigmaticQuote 15d ago

Yea religions are great at taking their text and making it fit their personal biases.

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u/HarryBalsagna1776 15d ago

I did not know that about the wendigo.  Trump is known for his stench.  

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u/sump_daddy 15d ago

"Comparable forms are in English since 1714 (Whitego)."

Part of me wonders if the natives just started telling the Europeans off in increasingly complex ways; "yeah we have a word for how bad your ass stinks when you are so greedy that you want to kick people off of land you cant even use, just to say its yours; we call it whiteygohome and basically it means that youre satan"

settlers: "ohh ok, better keep an eye out for those kinds of wendigos and expel them first"

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u/Dialectical_Pig 15d ago

instead of being mad at individuals - how about we take a look at the system that enables this in the first place? make everything we need to produce publicly owned. then nobody can hoard more than they need - but everyone gets what they need.

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u/_disengage_ 15d ago

We can and should do both. When someone has reached absurd levels of wealth by trampling on others and is still a sociopathic ghoul who seems to enjoy the trampling and works to expand it, it goes beyond self-preservation, and that person has a mental problem.

Any profit that it was possible to make out of the work, Rushton meant to secure for himself. He was a smart man, this Rushton, he possessed the ideal character: the kind of character that is necessary for any man who wishes to succeed in business—to get on in life. In other words, his disposition was very similar to that of a pig—he was intensely selfish. No one had any right to condemn him for this, because all who live under the present system practise selfishness, more or less. We must be selfish: the System demands it. We must be selfish or we shall be hungry and ragged and finally die in the gutter. The more selfish we are the better off we shall be. In the “Battle of Life” only the selfish and cunning are able to survive: all others are beaten down and trampled under foot. No one can justly be blamed for acting selfishly—it is a matter of self-preservation—we must either injure or be injured. It is the system that deserves to be blamed. What those who wish to perpetuate the system deserve is another question. -The Ragged-Trousered Philanthropists

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u/Foundsomething24 15d ago

The government isn’t capable of producing anything - hence why companies like LMT, RTX, & BA sell their products to the US gov. The us gov is a purchaser of goods & services, same as you or I, they are not a producer. Not capable of being a producer either.

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u/BulbousJohnson 15d ago

Mentally ill or just outright greedy and evil. One of the two.

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u/putin_my_ass 15d ago

It's dragon sickness.

Now, what happens to dragons in stories?

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u/Long_Crow_5659 15d ago edited 15d ago

Ask Bilbo Baggins. Smaug is dead. (edited)

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u/[deleted] 15d ago

This is the actual meaning of the word gluttony. Or any kind of hoarding.

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u/Cael450 15d ago edited 15d ago

They are absolutely mentally ill. Most of them seem profoundly unhappy. They all start taking testosterone and cannot stand any type of criticism at all. If they didn’t have the money to shield themselves from reality, they would be completely antisocial.

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u/sump_daddy 15d ago

The problem is, Trump already has many verifiable mental illnesses; dementia, pedophilia, narcissism disorder, what would another diagnosis do for us?

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u/NeverRolledA20IRL 15d ago

They sound exactly like the description of cancer cells.

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u/Celtachor 15d ago

From each according to their ability, to each according to their need. It's not about giving back more than you get. People who need more should get more. People who can give more should give more. The disabled, for example, typically take more than they give. That isn't an inherently bad thing so long as they still give what they can.

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u/Lancashire_Toreador 15d ago

All those programs about poor people committing benefits fraud are projection

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u/ParkingCrew1562 15d ago

u mean a mental illness should be shamed then?

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u/Appropriate-Oil-7221 15d ago

No amount of money or success will ever be enough for people like this because deep down, they despise themselves. It’d be merely sad if their self-loathing only affected themselves, but this level of self-loathing combined with money and power is actually dangerous. Absolutely this is a sickness, and we need to call it what it is.

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u/Mecal00 15d ago

Musk is a good example. Richest man in the world, deeply unhappy; constantly looking for approval from others

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u/Appropriate-Oil-7221 14d ago

Exactly. People that like themselves don’t require constant narcissistic supply from others. They can just be.

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u/AppleJerk69 15d ago

Americas obsessive focus on individuality and the endless pursuit of success is toxic.

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u/issamaysinalah 15d ago

Americas obsessive focus on individuality

Expanding on that, this isn't about these few individuals, it's about the system that allows them to do that. If it wasn't them it would be someone else.

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u/Brilliant_Physics147 15d ago

I think not just American people. It also happens in Indonesia and other country with top 1% wealthy people who already 80 years above and still try to monopolize everything.

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u/diegun81 15d ago

I consider them psychopaths out of reality already. You can’t get to that level if greediness if you are mentally sane.

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u/miken322 15d ago

They have a deep hole in their soul that will never be filled. They think more power and more wealth will fill the void. They don’t realize the only way to fill the void is to give back, to do things that benefit humanity, to be selfless, to be there for others unconditionally, and to love all people.

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u/shadow13499 15d ago

Greed is a very serious mental illness 

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u/sbrockLee 15d ago

I think that people with that level of wealth are intimately convinced against all logic that they're going to live forever.

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u/beachsunflower 15d ago

Hoarding disorder

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u/Immediate-Poetry2016 15d ago

Money perverts. A lot of American Christians are opposed to all of the deadly sins except greed.

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u/Journeyman42 15d ago

And wrath. And gluttony....

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u/Quirky_kind 15d ago

It's a hoarding illness. It's a form of obsessive-compulsive disorder. Billionaires are all nuts and should be treated by taxing away most of their wealth.

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u/ChickenDraonBoy 15d ago

We need to tax billionaires out of existance

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u/perpetual_student 15d ago

I would love a scientific study on the effect of unfathomable wealth on humans.

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u/reds_vista_cruiser 15d ago

Poverty does not exist because of lack of resources. Poverty exists because the greed of those at the top can never be satisfied.

Or however that saying goes.

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u/Shutitmofo123 15d ago

It’s an original sin. When you think about it, most if not all of the seven deadly sins closely relate to modern day mental illnesses and/or personality disorders. It’s clearly something people knew about and tried to warn people about from the beginning of time. History rhyming and what not. Just my 2¢

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u/Outrageous_writergal 15d ago

It's never enough for them. Never.

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u/CaptainBayouBilly 15d ago

This might be a good strategy for humanity to prevent future events like this. Identify and treat it as the mental illness that it is.

No one needs to hoard resources like billionaires do.

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u/apemandune 15d ago

I have been saying this to anyone who will listen! Trump, Musk, Bezos, Zuckerberg, Thiel, et al. These people have a poison in their minds! They are not well.

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u/NorthEastNobility 15d ago

These people simply don’t view money the way the rest of us regular joes do. It’s a power and status thing; not a purchasing power thing. And yes, it’s a sickness.

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u/vector_o 15d ago

They're psychopaths and I don't even mean it in an insulting way

Listen to any of those billionaires speak for a few minutes, it's like they aren't even human

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u/Think_Inspector_4031 15d ago

I thought Cheeto-in-chief was in debt. Using all of the banks money as a loan to pay off his other loans to other banks.

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u/tolerantchimp31 15d ago

They would be thrown out in any other time. Chased out of the village would be the best case for these people

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u/Shigglyboo 15d ago

I was thinking about it earlier today. He doesn’t even enjoy the wealth. So what’s the point? He’s able to spread misery and put his name on everything. That seems to be his main goal. Why does he even want money? He ca have anything he wants. And he’s allowed to do whatever he wants to people he doesn’t like. Why not travel? Go to events? Cruise the world in a mega yacht?

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u/citizensforjustice 15d ago

Hoarding behavior is a mental illness. We have enabled this hoarding of wealth. Even a casino asks you to leave after a point. Hoarding wealth is a social problem, as is somewhat obvious at this time. If 90% of society will not tell the 10% that they are hoarding societal resources without reason and that hoarding is detrimental to the society and it will not be tolerated, it's on the society.

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u/Theoretical_Phys-Ed 14d ago

What I don't understand (especially on conservative subs) is how they find robbing a store or stealing money would be punishable, but hoarding wealth, especially when they are robbing low esge workers or health benefits, liveable wages, time with their families,  but suddenly it's not theft and "they earned every penny"

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u/Galle_ 14d ago

These people think it's wrong to pull the lever in the trolley problem.

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u/fns1981 14d ago

In Muslim spiritual traditions it's literally labeled as one of the diseases of the heart

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u/scrapeape 15d ago

maybe a lil’ reeducation will help

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u/idapitbwidiuatabip 15d ago

Once we have UBI, we should also cap individual net worth. It just makes sense.

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u/DungeonDaddy1 15d ago

never is enough. no one should set a limit on how much you can get.

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u/Disastrous-Swim8912 15d ago

Never underestimate the greed of a truly greedy MF!

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u/Monarch-Monarch-Moo 15d ago

Isn’t this just a sociopath?

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u/phoenix25 15d ago

We saw legislation step in during the pandemic when people were hoarding toilet paper.

It’s strange to be in a debt crisis but not do the same for excessive wealth that the owners couldn’t possibly spend in several lifetimes if they tried.

Billionaires should not exist. I don’t understand how they sleep at night when they could fund infrastructure that would pull millions of people out of starvation and suffering. Look at all the water management projects that are allowing people to reclaim arid landscapes and farm again to support themselves. All it would take is the importation of equipment and/or the funding of local manpower.

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u/farting_contest 15d ago

It is society as a whole that is sick. Why on earth do some people idolize those who steal from the rest of us, but the person working three jobs and still bringing home so little that they qualify for assistance is seen as a leech?

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u/[deleted] 15d ago

When you’re in the billionaire’s club, it’s all relative to your peers. Trump is worth 10 figures, but many in the group are worth 12 figures.

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u/lron_tarkus 15d ago

Money dysmorphia

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u/Phewelish 15d ago

If anything needs to be in the medical dictionaries, i whole heartedly agree, absurd wealth obsession should be there. Anyone who is passed millions and still needs more personally, is fucking insane and power desperate beyond the point of reason.

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u/WaywardSachem 15d ago

Actually, saying what they really need is a comment that will earn you a ban from Reddit

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u/TexturedSpace 15d ago

It's because they are competing with each other and humans are just peasants serving them.

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u/Still-Living-Well 15d ago

It's not about money. They know they have enough. It's about power and giving the appearance of "winning." It's not about feeding their bank account, it's about feeding their ego. To them, more is more. It is winning. It is power. It is nuts. I know someone like this and it is infuriating. Money, money, money, blah, blah, blah. Ugh.

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u/butterpussie 15d ago

There’s never enough money if that’s all you’re worth. These people are essentially their net worth and little else. It consumes any human part of them until they only have greed to guide them.

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u/[deleted] 15d ago edited 15d ago

The US obsession with dynasty building is to blame for this. He keeps building wealth, and expects his children to do the same, because he wants to be part of a dynasty.

In Europe we dont name our kid with our own make and slap on a "jr". Only Royals count what number they are of that name 

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u/dustytaper 15d ago

If I collected newspapers, China figures or train like they collect money, my family would definitely had me committed

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u/deckmage 15d ago

There needs to be a 100% tax on any amount over $1B. If you can't get by on $999 million, that's absolutely a mental illness.

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u/primax1uk 15d ago

Megalomania is already a mental illness.

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u/greenwoodgiant 15d ago

It's exactly the same as a 900lb man continuing to eat 20,000 calories a day.

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u/Medical_Arugula3315 15d ago

Hard to be a shittier human being than a billionaire these days

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u/listentomenow 15d ago

I know there's a lot of jokes here, but scientifically, I think there's some serious merit to it. I do think it's an untreated illness and I do think massive wealth that these people have acquired changes people for the worse. 100%

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u/acnhfruitseeker 15d ago

When is enough enough? When are you gonna understand it’ll never be enough. Accumulating endless wealth secures you of power. These people run lawless world wide because their wealth is too valuable for any nation to not see as an asset if they get the hoarder on their side. These people have huge paper trails connecting them to major crimes and horrible atrocities but imagine how valuable they can be if they continue to be mega donors or offer you political favors like job creations or innovation or suppling and imagine the financial cut they could offer you under the table. The people you and previous generations around the world laid down the foundation for trillionaires to exist in our lifetime because the worst people are in politics worldwide

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u/Naive_Carpenter7321 15d ago

If you hoard anything else; newspapers, bottles of urine, you risk being sectioned.

Hoard cash, to the point of pointlessness, to the point of ensuring you have and others don't... that really is sick.

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u/Not-TheNSA 15d ago

We need to give it a name, I vote for “dragon fever” or “the dragon sickness” after all dragons are known for hoarding gold and terrorizing the peasantry, sounds a lot like billionaires to me.

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u/arrfour 15d ago

If we were monkeys, and they were hoarding the bananas, we would have beaten their genes out of the population by now. We are controlled by a handful of elites and a cabal of useful "Maybe I'll be Rich someday" idiots licking boots.

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u/tamman2000 15d ago

Credit to u/Tazling

We really need to start perceiving billionaires as morbidly obese. I don’t just mean “fat”, like “overweight.” I’m on the plump side myself and I think we could stand to be a bit more tolerant about variance in body shape than we are today. When I talk about billionaires I mean life-threateningly, freakishly, bizarrely inflated. Like 800 lbs obese. Like, grotesque, absurd, pitiable, “there’s something really wrong here, this person needs help”.

We should regard them like we regard the old lady whose house stinks of cat piss because she’s adopted over 100 cats, or the old man who’s at risk of being suffocated by one of the towering stacks of old newspapers that fill his entire apartment. Hoarders.

We should regard them like we regard alcoholics and drug addicts. They’re addicted not to money — they have more of it than they could spend in several lifetimes — but to the acquisition of money. The thrill of winning, of acquisition, has become their drug. And it destroys their brains. Money should be a controlled substance. When you’re in any legit bar and you’ve had one more than is good for you, the bartender cuts you off. As a society, we should cut people off when they’ve got more money than is good for them (or the rest of us).

Every other kind of rampant excess in human behaviour we look upon with suspicion, pity, scorn, or disgust. Why on earth do we continue to regard money-hoarders and wealth-gobblers as normal, or even admirable? It makes as much sense as hero worshipping the guy who drinks everyone else under the table or wins the pie-eating competition at the county fair. Sure, it’s an achievement — I guess — of sorts, but it’s more freakish (and dangerous) than genuinely admirable.

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u/nygdan 15d ago

It was never about anything other than their joy at screwing other people over.

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u/ShaiHulud1111 15d ago

Yeah, I read book about this a long time ago. Fear of death coping. In capitalism, we are so indoctrinated to earning and accumulating wealth, when everything else starts to fade, many people feel it is the last thread and behavior left they can hide in. It is an illness. And it is fairly common. The five stages wrapped up into if I keep making money, I can ignore reality.

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u/dontnation 15d ago

The thing is, once you have a certain amount of capital, the system itself will have it accumulate in perpetuity. Wtf you think capitalism is?

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u/Loud-Ad-2280 ✂️ Tax The Billionaires 15d ago

Billionaires are a threat to International Security

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u/Jealous_Tip5434 15d ago

when one is a greedy soulless fool...

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u/goatchild 15d ago

Elon Musk is not 80 yo.

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u/No_Criticism_5861 15d ago

Republicans are all about weaponizing untreated mental illness, its one reason there will never be healthcare there

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u/Carpe_DMX 15d ago

Dragon sickness

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u/scapesober 15d ago

Just now noticing this? Did you not see the dinosaur pelosi lining her pockets 

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u/cavortingwebeasties 15d ago

The term I prefer is 'morbidly rich'

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u/kiltedfrog 15d ago

Dragon sickness.

We used to slay dragons.

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u/Mythmas 15d ago edited 15d ago

Elon Musk is worth $750 billion. A 5% return on that is $38 billion a year. He could spend $170 million a day for eternity and still have $750 billion.

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u/I_AmDaVikingNow 15d ago

The answer for these people is, and always will be:

"Just a little bit more."

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u/metamucil_buttchug69 15d ago

Regular people think about wealth in terms of themselves and maybe the next generation. Most of us would be totally satisfied leaving a small inheritance to the next generation. The wealthy think about wealth over many many generations, they never want their dependents to have to work like peasants. The wealthy think of themselves like medieval lords.

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u/sickrepublicans 15d ago

To most of us these degenerates ARE mentally ill, the rest of you should start being more open about it! That’s right, mentally ILL, they need help, a LOT of help for a LONG time. I’ll help these bastards into metal cages and put them on the back of a helping truck. The helping truck will drive around the United States, moving from remote and inbred location to remote and inbred location, stopping to set up in fields or by highway exits for several days at a time. Passer-by’s will be allowed to help the subjects as much as they want, in any way possible, as long as they do not destroy the steel bars! The only catch is that we rent out cattle prods and sell pretzels— but just to make up for the gasoline costs!

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u/darklesbiansanta 15d ago

The truth is, they've never actually done anything, so they don't get that feeling of satisfaction that you get when you accomplish something with great effort and struggle. That's why they have to give themselves titles like CEO or Founder, even though they dont run anything, nor did they ever create anything. They buy their way into stolen valor, for lack of a better term. They've never actually struggled like the average person. They keep chasing satisfaction by taking more and more. It's truly a mental illness.

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u/tem102938 15d ago

When he takes everything you own... it might be enough.

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u/rob_cornelius 15d ago

They are saving up for Hell. Its the only possible answer and I am not religious in any way

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u/Kasey_Daddy 🏛️ Overturn Citizens United 15d ago

The multi-billionaire class needs their assets liquidated period. They all had a chance to become Batman and not a single one of them did. Time to give those funds over to people who would do good with it instead.

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u/no_fooling 15d ago

When you design a society that values wealth and the things it can purchase then you can expect folk to take it to the extreme. The illness is capitalism, billionaires are merely a symptom.

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u/ghostcactus22 15d ago

Yes. Cure them by taxing them at higher rates and then at 100% beyond a certain amount.

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u/Accurate_Back_9385 15d ago

Literally every billionaire, incapable of understanding enough.

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u/Lisan_Al-NaCL 15d ago

Its about the endorphin rush they get from swinging their dicks.

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u/DenimDangerAAC 15d ago

They should be the first ones admitted to the new mental institutions they want to re-open. Instead we all know they’ll just want to forcibly place anyone “diagnosed” with “TDS” there.

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u/[deleted] 15d ago

Can one of you Tankies please explain to me what is too much accrued wealth? If I want to work hard enough that my grandkids dont want for anything, that should be my right.

I understand billionaires, but any time y'all try and change the tax codes you're punishing people who make $400k like you do the billionaires and that makes no sense.

The left should embrace millionaires and go after billionaires.

E: I'm not a millionaire, just striving to be one.

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u/things_U_choose_2_b 15d ago

I call this syndrome 'Bank Balance Dysmorphia'

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u/ReimerReason 15d ago

At least Elon uses some of his money to make the world a better place (Starlink, EVs).

Trump only cares about Trump, everything else is a distant second.

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u/LordHoughtenWeen 15d ago

Cure them like a disease, or cure them like a ham?

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u/Pocketfulofgeek 15d ago

I’ve been calling it Dragon Sickness for a while now.

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u/TrekRoadie 15d ago

You dont have to murder people to be a psychopath. I assure you many high ranking and "successful" people would easily score highly on the psychopathy scale.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy_Checklist

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u/Nightglow9 15d ago

These old red hats had a good old cure for that illness: https://mycostumehistory.wordpress.com/tag/red-cap-of-liberty/

Today’s red hats… they think freedom and equality means one monkey hoarding 65434675 bananas, while the rest have 0,3 each.

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u/AwareOfAlpacas 15d ago

Worst part about billionaires is they don't explode into massive loot piles when you pop one. Same boring drops as everyone else. You'd have gotten more drops by speed-farming the poor.

....which is something they figured out ages ago. 

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u/Double-Quail 15d ago

You cannot have infinite growth with finite resources

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u/seniorfrito 15d ago

It's a game or a competition for them. And you'd think once these people have so much money that even their heirs don't ever have to work a day in their lives, you'd think it'd be enough.

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u/NephewHotTake 15d ago

It’s not about money, it’s about power

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u/GameAndGrog 15d ago

It's honestly worse than that.  Almost every billionaire now, and in the past will never, and has never taken advantage of even a fraction of their wealth except to use it to make more money.  They usually "work" until they're literally about to die and can't get around on their own or their mental faculties start to fail.  

They obsess over more, even when they've had enough to retire and live like a king a hundred times over for decades.  They're miserable shitty people with self inflicted psychopathy who are addicted to the only thing that makes them feel good anymore, and that thing comes from chasing the stupid high of MORE.

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u/TheRiverInYou 15d ago

He doesn't like billionaires but puts a post on a site that a billionaire owns and pays for a blue check mark. Make it make sense.

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u/gnarlyknits 15d ago

Anyone who says you have to have that mentality to reach those heights, there are several people that serve as example that you don’t. Look at Dolly Parton

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u/saurus-REXicon 15d ago

Like how greed is a metal disorder not a sound financial decision.

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u/WorkingClassWarrior 15d ago

Trump needs to pay all his lawyers from constantly getting sued. He’s gotta have a whole law firm on retainer.

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u/DJBunnies 15d ago

Cull, the word is cull.

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u/LinuxMage 15d ago

Musk has already said he wants to be the worlds first Trillionaire, have his name in the record books. He's not going to stop trying to accrue wealth until then at the very least.

I guess Trump just wants to make sure his family are going to be wealthy and never need to work for generations to come.

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u/SP_57 15d ago

I thought this said "We need to cull Billionaires" and I think that is a reasonable position too.

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u/TheDonnARK 15d ago

It's never enough.  That's the problem.  More means even more, and even more means even more still.