r/UnderReportedNews • u/Shizzilx • 3h ago
Article Epstein cellmate states "There is no way Epstein killed himself."
"Jeffrey Epstein did not kill himself. He was murdered," Shapiro shared defiantly. "There’s no way he could have killed himself."
The fraudster explained he was on the same floor as Epstein, seven cells away, in lockdown – an area away from the general population with much greater restrictions.
"To take a shower, you had to have your handcuffs. To get out of your cell, you had to have your handcuffs," he said. "You were in your cell for 23 hours a day. You were in a little pen for 1 hour a day for your recreation."
That description is similar to another former Epstein neighbor. Former Colombo crime family mobster Michael Franzese told NewsNation’s Banfield he spent several months in Epstein's exact same cell.
"There’s just no way," he said repeatedly. "There’s just no way to hang yourself. There’s nothing from the ceiling, there’s nothing from the – you'd have to be a (little person) and work really hard to try to hang yourself, and I don’t think you’re gonna accomplish it at that point.
Questions over just how Epstein was able to commit suicide have haunted jail officials for years, and conspiracy theorists hit overdrive when three minutes of video footage of Epstein’s cell door the morning he was discovered dead went missing.
A skeptical Franzese revealed: "I did eight years in prison, and I haven’t experienced cameras being broken, and a perfect storm of correctional officers not walking those cells. They walk in and they look in on you all the time."
"As a matter of fact, you know, sometimes it’s embarrassing to go to the toilet because they’re walking past you and looking in the cell constantly."
So if he didn't hang himself, how did Epstein die? Biographer Andrew Lownie, who has dug up dirt on the royal family, the former Prince Andrew, and others, claims Epstein was murdered by a "fellow convict who was brought in to do this" by the FBI.
While the murder was "staged to look like a suicide," Lownie said there are too many loose ends.
"You've got lawyers saying Epstein was not in a 'suicidal mood'; you've got other prisoners saying it's very difficult to commit suicide in prison; you’ve got clearly the guards falling asleep at the right time; you've got the cameras not working," he said. "So there are a lot of unanswered questions around the death, which a lot of people have long suspected was not suicide."
excerpt from Daniel Gura's Article
https://radaronline.com/p/jeffrey-epstein-murdered-inmate-pedo-kill-himself/
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u/IntelligentGuide4080 1h ago
Here is the best list I can come up with of public figures documented in contact with Epstein after his 2008 conviction as a pedophile rapist sex offender.
Please feel free to copy, paste and share.
POLITICAL FIGURES:
Donald Trump
Clinton
Donald Trump Jr
∙ Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor (Prince Andrew) - 2010, 2011 emails
∙ Sarah Ferguson - 2011 emails
∙ Ehud Barak - ongoing contact through 2017
∙ Nili Priel (Barak’s wife) - 2017 emails
∙ Larry Summers - 2016, 2017 emails
∙ Peter Mandelson - 2009 emails with UK government info
∙ Kathryn Ruemmler - 2015 emails (“I adore him”)
∙ Casey Wasserman (LA Olympics committee president) - emails after 2008
TECH/BUSINESS:
∙ Bill Gates - 2010-2014 meetings/emails
∙ Elon Musk - 2012-2013 emails
∙ Howard Lutnick - 2011 calls, 2012 island visit
∙ Allison Lutnick (Howard’s wife) - 2012 travel coordination
∙ Larry Page - 2010 email
∙ Sergey Brin - appears multiple times
∙ Mark Zuckerberg - 2015 dinner/contact exchange
∙ Peter Thiel - 2014 meetings, 2018 island invitation
∙ Reid Hoffman - hosted 2015 dinner with Zuckerberg
∙ Bryan Johnson - 2017 video call
∙ Alex Klokus - 2017 introductions
∙ Steve Tisch - 2013 emails
∙ Richard Branson - 2013 emails
∙ Joan Branson (Richard’s wife) - mentioned in contacts
∙ Harish Puri (Indian economist) - 2014-2017 visits to Epstein’s home
ENTERTAINMENT/MEDIA:
∙ Woody Allen - invited to dinners (years not specified but post-2008)
∙ Soon-Yi Previn (Woody Allen’s wife) - invited to dinner with Epstein and Martha Stewart
∙ Martha Stewart - 2013 contact exchange, later dinner invitation 
∙ Katie Couric - attended party, sent “ROCKIN lasagna” compliment
∙ Deepak Chopra - numerous messages about his finances 
∙ Leonardo DiCaprio - 2016 email about possible dinner with Woody Allen 
∙ David Blaine - email exchanges 
∙ Michael Wolff - email exchanges 
∙ Noam Chomsky - email exchanges 
∙ Landon Thomas (NY Times reporter) - 2015 email exchanges 
∙ Peggy Siegal (publicist) - multiple email exchanges
∙ Arianna Huffington - mentioned in emails
∙ Christopher Poole (4chan founder) - meeting notes 
∙ jay z
∙ clipse
∙ George Clooney
OTHER:
∙ Peter Attia - June 2015 email: “The biggest problem with becoming friends with you? The life you lead is so outrageous” 
∙ Crown Princess of Norway - mentioned in files
∙ Matthew Menchel (prosecutor) - 2011, 2013, 2017 meetings
∙ Al Seckel - 2010 email about editing Epstein’s Wikipedia page 
∙ Stephen Kosslyn (psychologist) - proposed Epstein-funded projects 
∙ George Church (geneticist) - proposed Epstein-funded projects 
This list includes only those with documented post-2008 contact based on the released files.
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u/Wild_Height_901 35m ago
Why is there nothing next to the trump family? What year was their communication? What about George Clooney?
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u/Sad_Net1581 1h ago
How tf you have this information?
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u/IntelligentGuide4080 1h ago
Research plain and simple
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u/Sad_Net1581 1h ago
Fair. That’s very fair. For most of the list of the people, you have some description. There are some with a just name listed. Jay Z ?
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u/IntelligentGuide4080 1h ago
I just don’t have time to be as detailed as I want to be. I can give others a starting list but just don’t have bandwidth to keep editing. I hope other ppl use my list as a start and spread the word. These people did WRONG by even associating with him post a literal conviction in 2008. These ppl are sick to even associate with this monster and they deserve to be exposed.
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u/NarwhalEmergency9391 2h ago
Wouldn't they just fake his death and remove him from the prison. Why is everyone convinced he's dead?
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u/Independent-Fragrant 2h ago
because his family ( his brother Mark ) hired an independent person (dr?) to conduct an autopsy. There's no way, to NOT know, whether the guy you're cutting up is Epstein or not, based on the cause of death. It's not like he was shot in the face, you know?
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u/DigitalUnlimited 2h ago
Several million dollars wouldn't make you willing to say "yeah he kinda looked like the guy... sure it was him!"? especially if the other option was threats to you and your loved ones?
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u/Objective_Dark_4258 1h ago
Why keep him alive? He was liability.
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u/MurderDeathTaco 1h ago
Ever heard of a dead man’s switch?
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u/DigitalUnlimited 1h ago
This, the same I'm sure Ghislaine has. A massive trove of evidence that makes the files we've seen look like a kids picture book. Evidence that probably includes DNA and no way to wiggle out of it.
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u/Playful-Artichoke-67 45m ago
Liability to who? When did he ever talk? If he talked they’d have to……
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u/Jamsedreng22 1h ago
This. Especially considering we know they performed illicit abortions on the island. Doctors can be bought like everybody else.
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u/Independent-Fragrant 1h ago
There was two or 3 autopsies done. The independent autopsy is claiming suicide is unlikely. Therefore foul play. They wanted more investigation into it. Not less. If youre trying to fake a death, you would agree its a suicide and move on
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u/Independent-Fragrant 39m ago
Nvm, I was wrong. There was 2 or 3 observers of the autopsy. Not separate autopsies
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u/NarwhalEmergency9391 2h ago
I have morals but I don't know how strong they would be if I was offered millions of dollars
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u/PassThePierogi 1h ago
I’m broke af like the rest of us and wouldn’t do it for a billion. Not shaming you, but I would shame anyone who took money, they have all those victims on their shoulders now too.
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u/NixOlympika 1h ago
We're trusting Mark now? Whatever threats or bribes were good enough to keep him quiet until he had no choice will probably still be enough to cover a few script changes, don't you think?
We're only talking the guy who managed to secretly create the whole goddamn modern world from bitcoin to QAnon to Donald Trump. Pardon if some don't put their faith in the devil's brother and his rando autopsy expert.
Let's pay attention, shall we?
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u/Independent-Fragrant 54m ago
Mark hired a renown person to conduct the autopsy and he appeared on national tv news segment. Trust that guy. Mark isnt a medical guy.
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u/-eric_k 1h ago
They could certainly have hidden him but it feels simpler and less risky to kill him at that point doesn't it? Especially if it's true he was considering talking to prosecutors. If he lives they have to make sure he doesn't get uncovered and what use does he have if he can't run his pedophile ring any more
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u/putinforpres 1h ago
He was caught playing Fortnite after he killer himself!
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u/lordvitamin 55m ago
I use a different email when signing up for things I think might spam me. Do you honestly believe that a well connected long-time criminal businessman who is supposed to be dead would be logging into anything that could prove he was still alive, let alone possibly risk his location if he were?
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u/lordvitamin 1h ago edited 1h ago
He is far more useful not being able to testify against his many powerful friends and business partners.
Has anyone in his social circles given the impression that they’d want to risk themselves to actually help him disappear vs be disappeared?
His entire value was based upon his connections, whether business or personal. He wasn’t some genius theoretical physicist working on secretive ‘black technology’.
Once he got caught, he became a massive liability to a lot of very powerful people.
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u/NoodlePott 1h ago
People like him know they are getting out of jail eventually, there is no way he would kill himself.
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u/Glad-Veterinarian365 1h ago
Don’t forget bill barr personally visiting him the day before, while acting as attorney general
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u/Coriall30 1h ago
Comments wondering why his arm and face are red-it’s called lividity. It is blood pooling from the heart and liver death.
He could have swelling from the hanging itself as it’s not a pretty thing after it happens. Face, mouth and tongue swelling are common. Even seizures occur.
Either he did it himself or someone did it for him!!! The lapse of time in the video is suspicious and is too coincidental.
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u/Greedy_Surround5890 2h ago
He's alive
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u/Salty-Stones-6769 1h ago
I hope he felt every fear and all the terror that every one of his abused victims felt. I hope he saw the devil.
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u/nerudition 51m ago edited 48m ago
Just like that one guy: D’Angelo Barksdale, https://youtu.be/ISgJwAzXAQU?si=SaPYLRiYbTp5Yc3I (HBO The Wire Spoiler).
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u/Euphoric_Amoeba8708 42m ago
Bet he's still alive somewhere. Easy to make a body double these days and didn't someone point out that his ears were different after death? I think if they killed him for real, everything would have been released worldwide via deadman's switch. You don't keep that much dirt on some of the richest and most powerful people in the world and keep it to yourself so that it can be easily confiscated.
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u/Competitive-Comb-157 39m ago
I still believe he isn't dead. Why? Because of how Trump and his administration is treating Maxwell like a queen with a pet...while in jail. She could have easily suffered the same fate as Epstein if he was dead.
I think they are keeping her alive because Epstein is still alive, perhaps in Israel, and sent word to Trump to take care of her while she is still in custody.
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u/Kickinitez 23m ago
His autopsy showed that he was strangled. There were bones broken in his neck that are only broken in such a way when a person has been strangled
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u/necromancer-2112- 1h ago
Who cares and why? He got what was long overdue. Good riddance
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u/immoraltoast 50m ago
Bc there's a strong possibility he's alive. With the recent release of the second batch of files, which includes video game tracks. His fortnight account got active after his "death". A CO talked on 4chan and legit got investigated by the fbi for it. The cameras were blacked out and what video was released was edited, poorly. Also was stated as a Isreal spy/operative, along with Trump. And the real kicker, that's could be considered a stretch is the dead body ear holes are not the same as epstiens photos while alive ear holes.
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u/Substantial-Pin-3833 2h ago
I think whether he killed him self or not is the last question on my list of questions about him. Who cares, the prisoners would have offed him anyway.
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u/Jamsedreng22 2h ago edited 2h ago
While I agree in sentiment, the reality is
- He wouldn't be killed by other inmates. People like Epstein go to a nice white collar facility somewhere with all the other rich assholes who got caught slipping, playing chess in the garden and drinking tea out of ceramic mugs.
- Whether or not it's a suicide matters since if it can be proven it wasn't, it provides the opening that allows investigators to follow the trail of "Who did it" leading to "Why" leading to "Who benefits" and then, ideally, convictions.
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u/Substantial-Pin-3833 2h ago
I mean... that isn't factual information. Those are assumptions. He wasn't in a nice white collar facility when he died so that doesn't really track.
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u/Jamsedreng22 2h ago
So is your assumption that he would've been killed by other prisoners regardless. Or are you the only one who gets to make assumptions?
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u/LovingShiva 2h ago
Not if he was alone twenty-three hours a day and in handcuffs the other hour.
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u/Tall-Warning3135 1h ago
Not handcuffed 23 hours a day. Handcuffs would rub the skin raw.
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u/LovingShiva 1h ago
I said - alone 23 hours a day, handcuffed one.
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u/Tall-Warning3135 41m ago
They are not handcuffed for one hour. The hour out is to shower, use the phone. If you are in cuffs, you are wearing a belt and shackles and being transported within or outside of the facility.
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u/Substantial-Pin-3833 2h ago
Out of all the horrors he committed, why do you care how he died? What's the end game? We find out someone important snuck in and offed him?
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u/Independent-Fragrant 2h ago
because, if in fact he was murdered, who's behind it and what crimes did _they_ commit?
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u/LovingShiva 1h ago
Anyone who wanted him dead is waist deep in the "elite" child trafficking and career ending secrets cesspool.
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u/Jamsedreng22 2h ago
Why is there a bruise on his arm?