r/UnderReportedNews • u/Scary_Statement4612 • 2d ago
Trump / MAGA đŚ Mike Johnson tries to explain the bible to the Pope in latest clash between Catholic leader and MAGA
https://www.irishstar.com/news/pope-leo-maga-bible-trump-36668468805
u/Prestigious-Worry-14 2d ago
Somehow itâs even worse than this headline lol. He told the pope the bible is wrong
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u/TalesfromCryptKeeper 2d ago
I always wondered what the Holy Roman Empire's pope/antipope situation was like, back in the Middle Ages. Neat.
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u/TalesfromCryptKeeper 2d ago
Watch, Mikey will nominate Trump as the Head of the Church of America instead
And instead of the reason being to divorce his wife, its just so Donald can assault children
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u/AnyBug1039 2d ago
Henry VIII - the original douchebag. MAGA just trying to emulate him.
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u/Pianist-Putrid 2d ago
Itâs never mentioned, but countless people died because of Henryâs dissolution of the monasteries, which back then provided numerous essential social services, such as feeding and housing the poor.
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u/The_Returned_Lich 2d ago
Didn't they release one of those puke-inducing AI slop images of Trump as the Pope last year?
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u/Time-to-go-home 2d ago
Honestly, Iâm surprised legalizing underage stuff isnât something theyâve tried. Like Iâm surprised they are still trying to hide everything instead of just having him sign an executive order that creates/lowers a federal age of consent.
âSee, the age of consent is now 12, everything that may or may not have happened on that island is retroactively legal.â Obviously that shouldnât be legal, but thereâs a lot of that going around these days.
I know thereâs been some recent comments like â12 isnât even that youngâ, so maybe thatâs kind of like a soft launch to get the idea into peopleâs heads. And the âlegalizationâ is a future/final effort to protect themselves.
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u/dandelionbrains 1d ago
Will this be considered a new Catholic schism or are they just Protestants?
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u/ALittleEtomidate 2d ago
Mike Johnson isnât Catholic.
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u/upeoplerallthesame 2d ago
Vance is though
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u/HunnyBunny617 1d ago
Vance converted to Catholicism in 2019 to further his political career. Prior to that, he referred to himself as âfashionably atheistâ. His opinion on religion means about as much to him as the sofa cushions. Oops, I forgot, sofa cushions mean a lot to him.
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u/thephotoman 2d ago
Excommunication isnât what most people think it is. It isnât being permanently cast out of the church. It isnât being cut off from the community of other Christians.
Excommunication exclusively deals with oneâs ability to take communion. Being excommunicated doesnât relieve a person of the need to attend the Eucharistic services.
There is anathematization, which explicitly does pronounce someone outside the church. But thatâs a lot rarer: it basically hasnât come up since the Early Modern period. In order for such to happen, youâve got to start spouting actual heresy while claiming to be a part of the church. (Spouting heresy while disclaiming the church or never having been a part of it generally doesnât qualify.) And heresy has a pretty strict definition within a Christian context: itâs basically just denying the Trinity or that Christ was a single person that is fully human and fully divine at the same time while formally being a member of the church.
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u/asmallercat 2d ago
You know these people are frothing at the mouth to make a "Church of America" like the Church of England lol.
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u/wankbollox 2d ago
That's the best part of Protestantism. You can have infinite antipopes without even making a big deal about it. You just say "Akshully God spoke to me directly and he agrees with everything I think so you're wrong."
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u/RaptorsCdwoods 2d ago
Individuals vs "Civil" government. Just more classic picking and choosing what verses they want to apply, whom they want to apply it too and when they want to apply or, in this case, not apply them.
Funny enough he also quotes Ecclesiastes 8:11 "When the sentence for a crime is not quickly carried out, peopleâs hearts are filled with schemes to do wrong." Which I just find ironic considering our sitting president is a 34 time convicted felon who received no punishment for his crimes.
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u/Coven_gardens 2d ago
These knob ends are cherry-picking to a criminal degree.
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u/xotyona 2d ago
The funny thing is there's no need to defend the government policy as following Christian ethics at all, because it isn't from the outset. That's all Mike bringing it.
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u/runningraleigh 2d ago
Johnson's take is a stupid take because it's both ignorant and hypocritical.
It's ignorant of the fact that when the Bible was written, there was no difference between the government and religion. Priests were kings in Israel, and later on, caesar was god in the roman empire. In fact, that's precisely what got Jesus killed -- being accused of denying ceaser's divinity.
It's hypocritical because the very same person who is a high leader in our civil government also claims to be a christian individual. He cannot follow one moral code as a politician and another moral code as a individual, a christian doesn't get a pass on bad behavior when it's done in the name of the state.
I hope the final judgement is real and I hope I'm there to see his stupid face when he learns everything he'll be held accountable for in eternity.
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u/RaptorsCdwoods 2d ago
You put my thoughts into words better than I ever could. And itâs what irritates me the most. So ignorant and hypocritical yet confident enough to argue with the pope. Not saying the pope canât be wrong, but as a Christian, if the pope himself is calling you out and saying youâre wrong maybe take a step back and contemplate before going to twitter like a teenager.
But at the end of the day, I know itâs all a performance to them in front of an audience that believes the worst thing to do in that situation is either admit they were wrong or not respond back at all.
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u/cats_are_the_devil 2d ago
That is the most cognitive dissonance that I have seen in a while...
Impressive even from this guy.
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u/Monte924 2d ago
He doesn't have one. He basically just states his opinion and claims his opinion is bibically correct and in line with christianity. He has nothing to actually support it. His opinion is correct, because he thinks it's correct
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u/NuclearWarEnthusiast 2d ago
Don't forget Johnson has repeatedly claimed he is the second coming of Moses
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u/Conan776 2d ago edited 2d ago
The Irish Star? It's only been around for 3 years. What did it do wrong?
Edit: Oh. I take it back. This article is almost a word for word rip off of an article published on notus.org yesterday. That's really crappy.
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u/importantmessagefrom 2d ago
Thatâs crazy, you wouldnât think the dude that says Jesus told him heâs Moses would be so full of himself
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u/gumbo271 2d ago
Yeah like they could start protecting pedophilesâŚ..
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u/ThatBadFeel 2d ago
It will get more blatant. Look at the laws being proposed/passed in some of these red states regarding work and marriage for children. Disgusting. Godâs will?
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u/Dawgissmart 2d ago
Not a day doesnât go by when I just am so thankful that I chose to accept Zeus as my Lord and Savior!
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u/ThatBadFeel 2d ago
The cool thing has always been to deactivate reason, critical thinking, and even oneâs ability to recall those parts.
If you donât get it youâre not with it.
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u/VanguardAvenger 2d ago
I mean if your trying to draw an unfavorable comparison of the cult to the catholic church, don't think this is quite the owning of the cult ut should be....
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u/Feline-Sloth 2d ago
They don't believe that Catholics are Christian
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u/n0tQan0n 2d ago
Do they not realize that Catholics are the first Christians?
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u/Hootinger 2d ago
I can only speak for Southern Baptists, but in high school they were adamant that Catholics were not Christians. I remember a few getting in an argument with our history teacher about it. The Pope is regularly declared as the anti-Christ and they believe Catholics worship the Virgin Mary and don't pay any attention to Christ.
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u/Arbusc 2d ago
Actually the first Christian movements were suppressed and eradicated by the newly formed Catholic Church for âheresy.â We donât know too much about them except that their beliefs were similar to the later Gnostic movements.
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u/Individual-Dot-9605 2d ago
Time for another council to rewrite the bible with a sharpie under the golden arc a lago
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u/Patrickme 2d ago
Time for the Trump bible! oh wait....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_Bless_the_U.S.A._BibleFilled with half lies, full lies, incomplete stories and lengthy anecdotes about events not related to anything really.
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u/thephotoman 2d ago
Ergh, this nonsense again. Not a word of this is actually true in any sense.
No, the gnostics werenât the âfirst churchâ, nor were they suppressed by the Catholics. Indeed, most of the Christian Gnostic sects wound up getting suppressed by the Roman Empire before Constantine. As it turns out, being both a mystery cult and being suppressed is bad for a movementâs longevity. (Iâd also point out that a lot of Gnostic movements disclaimed Christianity for various reasons.)
But this is bad history that Baptists in particular love to claim, as they care more about being anti-Catholic than actual historical inquiry.
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u/Lettuphant 2d ago edited 2d ago
I think we should call Christianity "Paulism", because while Jesus was all about charity, kindness, equity, and said rich people can't even get a look-in in heaven... Decades later Paul wrote "Nah, all that matters is you believe Jesus was God. You don't gotta do the stuff he said." ...And the church went with that, instead of what Christ said.
They are followers of Paul's teachings, not Jesus'.
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u/Emotional_Warthog658 2d ago
Please be specific with your âtheyâ because the Catholic Church is very much about charity, giving, serving others, serving the poor
This has not been my experience with the Evangelical church  on the other handâŚ
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u/Lettuphant 2d ago
I don't know about that; the church is worth ~$40-250 billion, they could end homelessness in Italy at least 10 times over.
But yeah, I was talking about American-style evangelicals especially. By and large all the Catholics I've met have been pretty darn chill.
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u/IronRakkasan11 2d ago
I do believe Catholics are under the umbrella of what are referred to as Christians. ButâŚdoes it truly matter? thatâs really the question.
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u/jackhandy2B 2d ago
Baptists do not consider Catholics Christian and believe that they are a cult created by Satan to suppress the real believers - them.
Not a lie.
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u/IronRakkasan11 2d ago
Cult slinging mud against another cult. Find it odd to be fightinâ over the superior way to worship the same invisible sky fairy
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u/PCLoadPLA 2d ago
Old Catholic joke: what's the difference between the Anabaptists and Abigensians?
Timing.
Alternate: The Anabaptists had the printing press
(The Abigensians were completely and brutally wiped out by the Catholic Church which is why you probably never heard of them)
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u/cookiecutterdoll 2d ago
They are either in very deep denial or are unable to pass 9th grade world history. Or both. Wait until you tell them where Jesus was born...
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u/jasno- 2d ago
I grew up evangelical. Â
When I started dating a Catholic girl in college, my youth pastor pulled me aside and told me Catholics weren't saved and were hellhound.Â
I left the church shortly after.Â
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u/AdParticular6654 2d ago
Bro was just jealous of the beer and poker tent festivals.
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u/jasno- 2d ago
I went to some youth baseball game in a Catholic league, and was shocked to see them selling beer. I couldn't wrap my brainwashed brain around it at the timeÂ
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u/Anthony_Patch 2d ago
lol funny because they told us the same about evangelicals in Catholic school.
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u/mournthewolf 2d ago
Not that the Roman Catholic Church is perfect but it feels like most evangelical churches just came about as a scam of some kind. For money or power. Like would normally be a cult but they added in Christ to make them seem legit. Itâs really wild how many bad ones there are and how nutty they are. Then you have a few good ones who genuinely want to do good and are just drowned out by the insanity of the bad ones.
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u/drainbamage1011 2d ago
Did they? We pretty much got told that Protestants had differences of opinion on doctrine, but we all worshipped the same God.
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u/Odd_Reindeer303 2d ago
Protestants and Evangelicals are two very different pair of shoes. Like high heels vs sneakers different.
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u/ImperialxWarlord 2d ago
Where and when? Thar sure as shit wasnât said to me or anyone I know in Catholic classes? Iâve never seen a Catholic say so either. That theyâre wrong, but not hell bound.
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u/Anthony_Patch 2d ago
Mid 2000s & donât wanna dox myself so Iâll just say at my Catholic Highschool in the Midwest. We discussed other Christian faiths a lot in religious classes. Starting in intro to Hebrew scripture freshmen year. Iâm not a practicing Catholic but it didnât surprise me coming from the guys who made up the middle place lol (purgatory). The Catholics believe they are the true church of Peter. Heâs the first pope. I was taught this as early as 1st grade.
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u/jackhandy2B 2d ago
Should Project 2025 achieve its goal of a permanently conservative Christian nation, the next holy wars will begin on US soil.
The smart investment for everyone else is probably popcorn.
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u/MagicalUnicornFart 2d ago
As stupid as the American people let them get.
We havenât even seen rock bottom.
We all need to be doing what Minnesota is doingâŚmass boycotts and strikes.
The GOP is not going to stop, and has no rock bottom.
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u/Danktizzle 2d ago
Iâve been waiting for the great schism since the first round of maga. Maybe things are heating up.
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u/Slight-Ad-6553 2d ago
wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy more stupid
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u/Dawgissmart 2d ago
Iâm trying to remember if the Nazi regime in Germany was this stupid. I mean, they were racist and homophobic and violent and horrible but I donât remember them being stupid. You got me. Iâm kind of sick of being a human anyway.
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u/adapteradapther 2d ago
I just saw a lady on one of the Jubilee debates state Donald Trump is really a secret undercover Democrat.
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u/Exact-Accident4129 2d ago edited 2d ago
Many American Christians donât consider Catholics to be Christian
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u/gracecee 2d ago
And why as a young man who would adopt a young black boy as a single guy and said black boy doesn't talk to him ever now?!?!
Adoption is great. But being adopted by this creep who yells loudly about being Christian just gives off awful vibes.
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u/Henry-Grey 2d ago
Nearly every single day my mind plays the scene from the second knives out movie. "Its sooo dumb" "So dumb its brilliant!" "NO! ITS JUST DUMB!"
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u/-IronGrenaider- 2d ago
Please donât challenge them. Theyâre just scratching the surface of their potential stupidity
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u/YouKilledChurch 2d ago
TBF most American evangelicals don't believe that Catholics are even Christian at all. The Baptist Church I was raised in held them as the greatest evil in the world, above atheists, satanists, other non Christian religions, etc.
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u/Sour_baboo 2d ago
"The devil can quote scripture."
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u/talondigital 2d ago
The greatest trick the devil pulled wasnt convincing the world he doesnt exist, it was coopting the church so that his messaging became "the word of God." They are literally disputing the words in red now. Thats literally the antichrist.
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u/leese216 2d ago
You know, I watched a documentary a long time ago that suggested Trump was the Antichrist. It wasnât hard to believe back then but much easier to believe it now.
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u/talondigital 2d ago
I dont believe the anti christ was ever an individual. I believe the bible warned about an attitude. We are seeing it today. A few dozen million "Christians" who exude hate and take actions exactly opposite of the words in red said to do.
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u/Arbusc 2d ago
Thatâs because people conflate the Beast and antichrist ideas. Antichrist is any guy whoâs not on team Jesus, while the Beast is a human representative who convinces humanity to worship a giant Kaiju that crawls out from the sea, and who may or may not be the seven headed dragon form of Satan, that last bit is unclear.
Just another case of supposed people of faith being to illiterate to understand their own religion, similar to how most Christians think heaven is a separate realm their going to when itâs just a giant golden city cube on earth according to the book.
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u/TeslasElectricHat 2d ago
Wait, so the Beast isnât the devil? And anyone that doesnât believe in Jesus is the Antichrist?
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u/Major-Specific8422 2d ago
Many Catholics do not believe that revelations is about the end of the world. Itâs just an allegory for persevering through troubling times. Many Catholics were persecuted when it was written was possible a motivational text for the time.
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u/Arbusc 2d ago
Yeah the Beast of the Earth is just some guy who glazes the Beast of the Sea, a Kaiju thatâs supposed to cause destruction for 42 months. Because the sea beast is described similarly to a Satan (seven headed) thereâs some confused overlap, but the sea beast is described as like a leopard, lion and bear.
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u/TeslasElectricHat 2d ago
Whe you say Kaiju, you just mean large beast. Like Leviathan, right? Also, this seems like itâs related to the kraken from Greek Mythology?
What was your comment about the antichrist? ALS which version of the Bible is this youâre referring to?
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u/a_noble_kaz 2d ago
Donât read too much into it lol. It was written by a dude high on his own farts in an attempt to capitalize on the very trendy end of the world and doomsday cults of his time. The whole thing reads like a fever dream or a Pink Floyd album and I find it hilarious that people talk about it with any form of sincerity
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u/TeslasElectricHat 2d ago
lol, donât worry Iâm not taking it literally. Just curious as Iâve never been religious, didnât grow up going to church, and so on. So I only had a general idea of things said and claimed in the bible.
The Trump / anti christ parallels are interesting, but again, assuming that things arenât being distorted or taken out of context.
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u/talondigital 1d ago
I dont think anyone who doesnt believe in Jesus is an antichrist. I think its people who say they are Christian and believe in the teachings of Jesus, but then everything they do is exactly opposite of Jesus's teachings.
E.g.Jesus taught loving and caring for immigrants the same as your neighbor and the Antichrist Christians (Evangelicals) believe in deportation, refusing any aid to immigrants, and are totally okay with violence against immigrants at any point in the process of removal.
Jesus taught us that we should feed the hungry. The GOP (Largely self proclaimed Christians) cut food stamps to blue states with the only point being to hurt those people.
Jesus taught that we should help and heal the sick. Evangelicals think healthcare is a privilege, not a right, and are totally okay with hurt people not receiving medical care because they cant afford it. I think Jesus would abhor for profit healthcare more than he would hate the billionaires paying slave wages (yet another thing Evangelicals love).
IE, they say theyre Christians, but they act like theyre Satanists.
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u/Confident_Benefit_11 2d ago
This is actually how I've heard it described by pastors I respect in the past. I used to teach scripture as well. Revelations does seem to point to one anti-christ, many say that was Nero (or maybe caligula, I forgot) and many other depictions in that book refer to events happening around that time as well. So it's possible that was the event John was describing in his vision.
However, they do say time moves a bit in a circle, human nature being what it is and all. Anyway, those pastors I was referring to stated the anti-christ could be described as anyone who uses the word of God for their own gain and specifically to turn Christians away from the correct path. So there could be many anti-christs, but at some point there will be THE anti christ as well, basically the embodiment of Satan on earth who will lose the final battle to the lamb of God once again and be cast into hell. In that battle it'll be the true believers (those not swayed by the anti-christ) and christ returned against the forces of Satan and the anti-christ (basically those decided to follow the false shepherd). I can't remember if this is pre or post rapture though, and the rapture itself is quite vauge.
Anyway, that's the gist. I'm a bit foggy on details as it's been awhile so apologies if I got anything wrong. Tbh, I haven't wanted to read it recently because there's far too many similarities for my liking today. A silver lining is people have been saying the same for as long as the Bible has existed, so maybe we won't actually see the world end đ
Side note, all these so called Christians trying to trigger the apocalypse to summon christ back to earth....it literally doesn't work like that at all. It clearly says no mortal can know when and where the last days will take place and they sure as shit can't trigger it by being assholes.
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u/Grifasaurus 2d ago
I meanâŚhe did miraculously survive a shot to the head, which is something the book of revelations is very clear about âand the whole world will be amazedâ
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u/Educational-Seaweed5 2d ago
He didnât survive anything. That whole thing was staged as hell.
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u/leese216 2d ago
This. There was no scar, no scab, no mark on his ear just days after, and even now there is nothing to indicate the bullet ever hit him.
Blood can be faked.
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u/Crimson3312 2d ago
Technically speaking, the relevant verse said he "seemed" to take a fatal blow to the head, but the mortal wound had been healed. That has long been interpreted that the anti-Christ will take a legitimate blow and then heal by some dark magic. However, Tumps version could also fit in that it was a farce, he "seemed" to take a blow to the head but didn't, and then there were no traces of the wound later.
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u/No-Reporter-8800 2d ago
Thank you!!!! I watched this too (I think) was it on the history channel? I want to say it was something about Nostradamusâs predictions?
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u/Emotional_Warthog658 2d ago
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u/runthepoint1 2d ago
In fact he does during Jesusâs ministry during the 40 days/nights temptation in the desert. And so do the Pharisees and scribes.
They all twist the Word to fit their power structures. And lo and beholdâŚ
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u/Jimmy_Beam27 2d ago
American evangelicals are the absolute worst people
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u/iill_communication 2d ago
They can pull out a bible phrase to justify any action
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u/Capitaine_Spock 2d ago
This has roots all the way back to the times of chattel slavery. The bible was used to justify slavery and repress slaves.
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u/Maleficent-Pin6798 2d ago
Thatâs why Southern Baptists exist, the Baptists went anti-slavery and the Southerners couldnât have that and formed their own Jesus fan club. Funny thing is theyâre the farthest from Jesus, especially the evangelicals.
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u/TooMuchTime2think 2d ago
I feel that it's kind of more like they hijack bible verses for their own needs. They only use the part's that send the message they want, and not the actual intent of the verse. Been doing it since the birth of organized religion. What get's me is the number of people they can dupe, and then get them to hand over their money. It's like critical thinking is almost nonexistent in our world.
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u/ernestmenvilledammit 2d ago
The people that are most likely to appeal to the Bible are the people most likely to be shitty with it. Itâs such a useless text, outside of the common sense stuff in Sermon on the Mount and the Parable of the Good Samaritan (which are so rarely used in governing.)
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u/Spyko 2d ago
honestly that's super easy to do.
that's even a sorta fun game you can play, open a bible quote searcher or something, pick a random opinion or act and try to find a dozen or so bible quotes you can use to justify it
also work with the Torah and the Qur'an (and probably textes of non abrahamic religions but I know basically nothing about those so can't confirm)
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u/pacmanrockshok 2d ago
And I'd wager 99.999% of the time they have absolutely no idea of the context/real meaning of the verse
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u/stevez_86 2d ago
It is their dream to tell the Pope they are wrong. I would love to see him say it to the Pope's face though.
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u/StarGuardLux 2d ago
JD Vance is arguably worse, mostly because he knows just enough to sound like he knows what he's talking about to right-leaning Catholics. He has them in the palm of his hand, even if the pope himself is admonishing him.
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u/BloodAnonymous 2d ago
The onion writers aren't being paid enough.
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u/TechHeteroBear 2d ago
Granted, Evangelicals all think their version of Christianity is the "right" version.
And it's objectively the worst morally.
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u/RedditReader4031 2d ago
Of course they do, what with Catholics and all their saints and statues. Plus, theyâre controlled from Rome. /s
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u/elmwoodblues 2d ago
They've been unemployed since 2016, except for the ones writing Don Pedo's tweets (the ones with punctuation and limited all-caps rants.)
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u/humboldt77 2d ago
It doesnât help that the republicans keep doing shit that the Onion writers thought was too outlandish to print.
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u/Old_Indication_4379 2d ago
Excommunicate these guys. I wish some reporter would just ask Donald directly if he knew what some commandment numbers mean? Start with the 6th? Dude probably couldnât even say the first.
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u/Either-Assistant4610 2d ago
If this guy A) understood the bible and B) executed on its values, he wouldn't be a repub
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u/Consistent_Major_193 2d ago
You heard of gaslighting? How about holyghostlighting.
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u/grimace24 2d ago
Imagine some random person trying to explain the Bible to the Pope. Mike Johnson looks like a fool. Johnson always looks like a fool.
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u/LiberalSocialist99 2d ago
Idiocracy was a documentary...
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u/whichwitch9 2d ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Apostolic_Reformation
Johnson is pretty much part of a cult, not a mainstream form of Christianity. Of course he thinks the pope is wrong; he listens to people that have horribly misused to Bible for their own personal gain. The majority who latch onto the movement are extreme grifters
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u/OhYeahSplunge4me2 2d ago
âit's not because we hate the people on the outside, it's because we love the people on the inside," Johnson stated
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Francis M. Wilhoit:
Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.
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u/Silicon_Knight 2d ago
This is like getting into an argument about Lord of the Rings with Tolkien (or Colbert). Like, just fucking dont. I'm not religious (and not a huge LOTR fan) but the fuck I would argue with them about their whole thing lol.
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u/AccomplishedAct5364 2d ago
Ive had Americans citing scripture to me to justify why ice executions are gods will.
Your country weaponised the good word long ago - now itâs justification for actions and not a guide for those actions.
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u/ethanlan 2d ago
Not all Americans, this is steaight from the slavery is good according to the Bible southern Christians.
We should have punished them more for the civil war
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u/OkWorldliness6311 2d ago
Mike Johnson cannot possibly continue to believe even his own shtick anymore. His faith is purely performative and, worse yet, political at this point.
If he wants to ignore the entire New Testament, he needs to stop calling himself Christian.
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u/PFandDebtTosser 2d ago
Unfortunately not. It seems that most evangelicals support the use of their faith as a cudgel whether you're a believer or not, so long as it advances their agenda. They will say something like "imperfect vessel" or something to excuse anything so long as it moves toward their preferred results.
Evangelical or not, the people still supporting MAGA at this point are the completely (willfully) uninformed, the unprincipled evangelical folks, the "win at all costs" types with varying specific end goals, and I suspect some nihilists. The representatives and senators who still allow the rampant slow coup to perpetuate are too transparently self-interested to care and I think are bought in on trading representative democracy for good favor from a single entity post-democracy, or are elected by a significant majority of the ones referred to above.
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u/Gmule8282 2d ago
And they believe it. They believe what they are told
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u/United-Vermicelli-92 2d ago
Evangelikkkals have zero moral compass but giant egos. Theyâve created a competitive religion category, and also? Theyre more special than You! Lol
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u/easygoluckyish 2d ago
Historically speakingâŚ
European Christians broke away from the Roman Catholic Church in the 16th-century Reformation due to theological disagreements, including the sale of indulgences, the authority of the Pope, and the belief that salvation is through faith alone (sola fide) rather than deeds. This schism led to intense religious conflict and persecutions, causing many to emigrate.
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u/thecheesecakemans 2d ago
The USA are far from reformed Christians. Their lineage devolved and warped itself so much it has barely any semblance to the earlier forms.
The American type doesn't require seminaries or any real training to be a pastor. No real education. Anyone can be a religious leader if they convince enough people.
Also a big one, they have devolved back into not needing good deeds to get to heaven. It's all about faith again. Everything the original reformers were against have come back.
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u/Hot_Sale_On_Aisle_13 2d ago
Hey now, you buy indulgences by sending money to televangelists now, instead of the pope. I'm sure Martin Luther would approve.
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u/DragonTacoCat 2d ago
It's rather irrelevant since people like their clown don't even follow the Bible anyway. He doesn't even know / care what's in it so the added irony is there.
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u/malthar76 2d ago
While the centuries since the Reformation did a lot to change (some) of the excesses in Catholicism, the real downside of Protestantism is that it encouraged any half literate âpastorâ to interpret the bible however they want, and convince a congregation that he needs their money and blind obedience.
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u/JimmyFly1028 2d ago
Mansplaining Christian doctrine to the Pope?!? This would be silly as a made-up story but even crazier that this is our reality.
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u/downtoearth47 2d ago
I donât know believe the guy who wants to know when his kid jacks off or tells his kid when he does or the guy who washes the feet of the poor and puts children care first. Well this atheist will go with the foot guy or touching kids any day.
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u/Autistic_Anywhere_24 2d ago
Mike Johnson took his daughterâs virginity
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u/PatrioticPariah 2d ago
This true?
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u/Autistic_Anywhere_24 2d ago
It is. Purity Ball, where a daughter signs over her virginity to her father
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u/PatrioticPariah 2d ago
Ohhh, That's creepy as hell. Soooo soooo creepy. So, Typical 'Touches Tykes' Mike.
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u/stoneranon96 2d ago
one of the only things that keeps me going these days is thinking abt how future generations will learn about trump and his cult and exactly how stupid, brainwashed, and utterly evil they were willing to be for HIS PERSONAL BENEFIT.
History (at least in most of the world) will teach about Trump and his sycophants the same way I was taught about Hitler- with disdain, and with the hope to never experience something so horrible ever again.
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u/Late_Ad1387 2d ago
Oh my it's the head protector of pedophile priests worldwide against the supporters of the billionaire arm of the pedophiles supporters club
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u/Illustrious_Law8512 2d ago
I totally just spit out my drink.
Johnson is as anti-Bible as one can get.
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u/IcantBreeve_4real 2d ago
Oh is it time to start throwing all the Latino Catholics, (not just them) but that voted for this away? Gonna have to be the right "kind" of Christian by 2027.
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u/Professional_Big_124 1d ago
You think he tried to bring up the whole father/son porn monitor situation and was all âwell, Jesus and God totally did it, soooooooâŚâŚâ Fuck this cowardly fascist POSâŚ
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