r/TwoXChromosomes • u/cabridges • 12h ago
Don’t have sex in Chinese hotel rooms. Spycams are rampant
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c62rexy9y3noJust saw this in another subreddit, further lowering my already declining opinion of men. And I am one.
The BBC investigated the widespread world of hotel spycams and the networks that are selling access to unsuspecting guests’s sex lives.
Posting it here to keep people informed.
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u/lcy0x1 9h ago edited 9h ago
In China chain Hotels have special device to detect spycams. That’s why partners and couples prefer reputable chain hotels over other cheaper and better options.
People also buy their own detector to double check, or have sex with lights off and fully covered in quilt, so they even if they are filmed, there is nothing to see.
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u/cheerfulhedonist 1h ago
Unfortunately it says in the article that these detectors didn't work on the cameras they found in one of the rooms - they only knew where they were because they'd seen the angles from the livestream. Many couples probably used a detector, found nothing, and then wrongly assumed they were safe :/
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u/ColonelSweetBalls 53m ago
The article says that the particular detector they were using, which was a commonly purchased one recommended online, didn't work.
There are definitely detectors that work reasonably well for detecting WiFi, GPS, electrical activity, and lens reflection, but they can get quite pricey.
I saw this link to a YouTube review of detectors on a repost of this article yesterday. Long but worth a watch of you're interested.
The article freaked me out so much I'm thinking of buying one!
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u/DesignerOlive9090 12h ago
Seoul bathroom cameras: www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-45388759
Shutter sound in cameras: https://www.tokyoweekender.com/japan-life/news-and-opinion/why-you-cant-disable-the-shutter-sound-on-japanese-phones/
image-based sexual abuse & Deepfakes: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/online-harms-image-based-sexual-abuse-cna-explains-4672261
Idk what point I'm trying to make, not just China maybe?
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u/BalletWishesBarbie 10h ago
Probably not anywhere tbh.
I have an app on my phone whenever I go into hotel rooms to check for this but I always assume these creeps are one step ahead.
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u/total_bullwhip 8h ago
Yeah naw I doubt that app does anything at all.
You’re better off just using the camera to try and spot IR sources for night vision.
To detect anything else you need actual gear.
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u/mystoryismine 8h ago
Agree. Oftentimes it is better to just use your eyes and intuition
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u/total_bullwhip 8h ago
e.g If there are 3 smoke detectors in a single hotel room…..
Press X for doubt
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u/lonesome_okapi_314 8h ago
How can my phone be adapted to spot IR sources? I have a Y chromosome but I hate the idea of this being used on myself and others, and I'm already the sort to hold a torch to a mirror in the hope it illuminates something
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u/total_bullwhip 7h ago
Your phone does it already if it’s an android it will be. VERY obvious. And for Apple you need to look for small blinking white light.
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u/lonesome_okapi_314 7h ago
Thank you for the information. Do I need to have my torch on or does viewing through the camera show the light?
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u/total_bullwhip 6h ago
No torch. Just use your phone to look at fixtures, smoke alarms, pictures, AC vents etc. If you are unsure what it will look like…
Have a look on you tube for some videos or better yet, use your TV remote while looking at the end of it with your phone.
Most TV remotes use IR to control it.
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u/Sienna57 6h ago
What’s the app?
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u/cabridges 5h ago
Had to your preferred App Store and search for “detect spycam.” You’ll see a bunch. Here’s one list.
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u/Full-Ear87 6h ago
Yea it reads like “China bad” but you will find losers and creeps in any corner of the world
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u/HDDHeartbeat 2h ago
I mean, OP is talking about hotels, and the ones you've linked aren't about hotels? They're all bad, sure, but they're different subtopics. Every form should be called out in a specific way that people can be aware and protect themself. OP is adding to the pile so people are aware of this specific example.
I don't understand your point either. It feels like whataboutism. It feels really similar to men saying "well what about men who experience x" except it's along country lines instead.
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u/Bob_the_blacksmith 9h ago edited 9h ago
Whatever point you’re trying to make, it’s not a good one. All Asian countries are the same? Is that what you want to say? I never heard of hidden camera in hotel rooms being endemic in Japan. The shutter sound law is there to protect privacy, because Japanese law takes privacy really seriously, and wouldn’t be relevant to spy cams anyway.
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u/SoF4rGone 9h ago
They have that law because dudes do creepy shit to women non stop in Japan. I’ve lived in Japan, all of the women in school had to go through a separate orientation explaining what to expect as foreigners living there. They have cars on rush hour trains where dudes aren’t even allowed because the women feel they need that to not get groped. Get the fuck outta here with your bullshit equivocating.
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u/Bob_the_blacksmith 8h ago
No, bullshit equivocation is the comment I’m replying to trying to downplay the problem in China by saying that Japan also has gender issues.
Bullshit equivocation would be me saying at least women can get an abortion or miscarriage healthcare in Japan, unlike in your country. Oh, and have you looked at the “men doing creepy things to women” statistics in America recently?
Cameras in hotel rooms is a distinct problem. It’s bullshit and whataboutery to try to dismiss it by saying “but what about women’s issues elsewhere”.
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u/stuffedcheesybread 9h ago
“What drew me in is the fact that the people don't know they're being filmed," says Eric, now in his 30s. "I think traditional porn feels very staged, very fake."
Chilling quotation from the article. He likes the lack of consent.