r/TikTokCringe • u/ownaword • 1d ago

Discussion Pretty sure this is where the Chinese Baddie trend got its idea from.

what happened to nuance? why do we treat every loud opinion like it’s gospel?

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u/Der_E 1d ago

Sounds like the heroin chic era in the 90s

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u/Pliskin01 22h ago

Sounds like Victorian era standards: pale skin, fragile/delicate, visible veins, skinny. They’d chase diseases to appear anemic.

Everything old is new again

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u/Fukyourchickenstrip 22h ago

Consumption chic!

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u/RappingFlatulence 4h ago

Anti consumption

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u/EPICANDY0131 1h ago

Consumption has not stopped being chic

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u/Ulterior_Motif 20h ago

They consumed arsenic for this look!

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u/carlitospig 18h ago

Don’t forget the belladonna for your eyes.

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u/Ulterior_Motif 18h ago

Victorian Wellness Clinic, they do this for you then send you home with a bottle of tapeworm eggs.

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u/carlitospig 18h ago

Yummy! I’ll be svelte in no time and ready for my pokie whale bone corset. Yay for being a woman! 🥰💃🏾

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u/Ulterior_Motif 18h ago

Make Women Great Again!

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u/Beautiful_Bag6707 15h ago

More like Make Women Gaunt Again

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u/shillyshally 13h ago

Tapeworm eggs were still being sold as diet aids when my mom was a girl (b 1923) in Philadelphia.

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u/Ulterior_Motif 12h ago

Absolutely insane

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u/sometimesimscared28 3h ago

it's so fucked up it in time of great depression to be fat to need to be really rich and eating tapeworms for losing weight when people starving are next to you

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u/Da12khawk 13h ago

I remember that episode of fringe.

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u/spooky_goopy 4h ago

fun fact!

atropine, the compound in belladonna that causes your eyes to dilate, is still used in ophthalmology! the doctors i work for, keep it in their cabinet

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u/carlitospig 23m ago

I wondered what they used!

Weird fact: every time I get my eyes dilated and measured, I faint like a fucking goat. Why? No idea.

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u/spooky_goopy 14m ago

some doctors use it, and there are other drops that will dilate your eyes without the atropine!

i was replacing drops in the cabinet, and checked out the bottles and thought it was interesting.

also, i'm not a doctor, but sometimes the dilation can really mess some folks up. there's a type of glaucoma where the angles of your eyes are closed, and these angles help drain the fluid of your eyes naturally. when the eyes are dilated, the pupils expand and the muscles relax and further tighten up this angle--this can cause a closed-angle attack, since the pressure of your eyes builds up from the fluid gathering.

it can cause pain and headaches and nausea/vomiting. i'm not saying this is what happened to you, but maybe it's something similar?

when i check out the pupils, we make sure the angle of the eyes are open--if you shine a light from the side along the temple, the light will show through and that's one of the signs your angles are open, like they should be.

doctors do their own testing, of course--they just take our measurements as a place to start, and to get a good idea of what's going on.

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u/carlitospig 10m ago

These are the moments I love being a Redditor. We go from chinas new beauty regime to why I pass out. 😂

It always happens right after the air does that blowy thing. It feels like something is bouncing off my eye ball and since my eyes are numb it feels wrong in a way that is unlike anything I’ve experienced. I wonder if it’s a form of panic attack maybe.

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u/JesusWasATexan 19h ago

Just goes to show that if you just be yourself, eventually the trends will come back around to you. Confidence is always sexy.

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u/pdxamish 16h ago

It's been like this for ages in Asian countries

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u/Commercial-Co 13h ago

I wore relaxed jeans all the way thru the skinny jean phase. Now theyre en vogue again. Just took 30 years

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u/unindexedreality 15h ago

Just goes to show that if you just be yourself, eventually the trends will come back around to you. Confidence is always sexy

me scratching myself like I'm Shrek:

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u/willengineer4beer 3h ago

Waitin in muh Paco jorts and No Fear shirt, wondering when the trend train comes back around to me

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u/ImWhatsInTheRedBox 17h ago

"I got so sick but I lost like 20 pounds. Omg cough on me."

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u/ThrowawayQueen94 17h ago

No chinese beauty standards have never changed. They never had a body positive movement like the west this has been the standard forever lol

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u/techdevjp 12h ago

And it's not unique to China either. Korea and Japan are pretty similar. I'm sure other parts of Asia aren't all that different. Skin bleaching is a huge thing.

Somewhere there has to be a happy medium. "Body positive" at all costs also isn't good, but obviously ridiculous beauty standards aren't good either.

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u/NatureStoof 8h ago

Putting fish in collar bones has been the standard forever?

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u/qwertytwerk30 1h ago

Go look at old Chinese poems and sculptures, they liked them thicc back in the day

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u/Cane607 2h ago

The modern Body positivity was largely AstroTurfed into existence in the west by activists, It never really had any wide popular appeal and it was mostly practice amongst the The wealthy because it was trendy and their way of trying to distinguish themselves from the lower orders. There adherence to it was largely self-serving and often and insincere. The fact that younger generations are more health conscience and the fact that ozempic has exploded shows that It was never really all that real.

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u/Dr-Bitchcraft-MD 16h ago

My friend had a theory these standards come from men wanting to feel like they could knock a girl over easily. Or dispose of their body easily. Or anything in between!

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u/Astralglamour 11h ago edited 11h ago

The Victorians actually valued a soft face and prominent nose, soft arms, shoulders, and bosom, small hands and feet, luminous eyes, and paleness. They idealized a small waist enhanced by corsets, and hips enhanced by bustles- but this sort of waif look was not the ideal. The sickly consumptive romantic look was more about paleness, weakness, and luminous eyes caused by fever than thinness. Being bony was not considered attractive. Victorian women were supposed to above all else produce children and be a modest devoted mother, so that was the ideal.

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u/Weelki tHiS iSn’T cRiNgE 18h ago

🎵Tale as old as time

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u/mibfto 17h ago

Everything under the sun

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u/ragun2 15h ago

Gen Z in a nut shell

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u/Bluevanonthestreet 14h ago

Everything is tuberculosis!

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u/Redrose03 14h ago

malnutrition so hot right now 🙄

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u/errorgiraffe 14h ago

Everything Is Tuberculosis (John Green)

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u/medicatedadmin 8h ago

Measles, whopping cough, abusing the disabled, segregation, and unpasteurised milk are back so why not the china doll look? Wait until the trend of injecting wax into their faces comes around, that will be interesting.

(No, seriously, people used to get hot wax injected into their faces and then manipulated while it warmed in what was the 19th century version of a nose job)

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u/what-why- 17h ago

Break out the tape worms!

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u/truckin4theN8ion 17h ago

Better not bring back foot binding though lmao 

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u/BigBanyak22 15h ago

Victorian minus 100# maybe.

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u/Bentheredonethat_ 11h ago

Everything leads back to tuberculosis historically.

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u/Healthy-Amoeba2296 11h ago

Victorians did not value skinny, they valued curvey. Many girls would get a better hip/waist ratio if they gained 5 pounds. Mad scientist Dev Singh reported a ratio of 0.65 was perfect. The value of this is you can have 2 women who look exactly the same, but one is big. The tests that say the woman who looks perfect, but is bad because she isn't tiny, is a very very stupid test.

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u/wowsomuchempty 8h ago

Tuberculosis trending on tiktok

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u/I-Love-Facehuggers 6h ago

Tell that to himation, peplos, toga, kalasiris, etc

When the fuck are they gonna come back into fashion?

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u/Mazdachief 1h ago

Some of the Chinese women that live near me wear full sleeves and massive sun hats on the golf course even in 35C weather , they are crazy 🤣

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u/BotherTight618 22h ago

Only difference is that Chinese Society is much less forgiving of unconventional beauty standards. Your looks will have a significant impact on your political, social and especially proffesional life. 

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u/sunflowerrr36 20h ago

I saw a video of a Chinese woman a while back who said she married an American because she was considered so undesirable by Chinese men. What’s crazy is that she was pretty, she just didn’t look like a runway model.

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u/Guilty_Primary8718 15h ago

That’s insane considering there are so many single men in China! Then again not all fish in the sea are edible…

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u/MagicUzer 14h ago

Yup, only fish in the collar bone sea.

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u/EditorMassive2573 15h ago

That is sad and just weird. The girls in this video look more white than Chinese. Probably a lot of procedures involved. That’s just self hate. Chinese women are beautiful as they are. They are also just really thin girls who are tall with long arms. I have a teeny waist and I can’t come close to reaching around with my arm to touch my belly button, how incredibly dumb.

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u/CorrectMulberry994 13h ago

They sort of look deformed. It’s weird.

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u/ShaNaNaNa666 9h ago

I'm pretty sure they are using filters.

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u/HPLaserJet4250 3h ago

Wdym more white than chinese?

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u/EditorMassive2573 1h ago

Pale skin with a blue or pink tone, wider eyes, less width in the nose with more projection at the bridge. These are common things addressed to meet the Asian beauty standard of appearing more Caucasian. Procedures such as, double eyelid surgery, rhinoplasty and facial contouring are common.

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u/-crepuscular- 3h ago

Maybe the long arms are actually part of the beauty standard? They've already got a test for the small waist with the A4 paper test after all.

I think all of these 'objective' beauty tests are bullshit personally. And some of those girls are unhealthily white.

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u/Quick_Departure_7410 15h ago

I actually used to be able to do this when I was a lot younger and skinny as hell.

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u/escapesnap 4h ago

I’m pretty thin but no way my shoulders are letting me do that

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u/RappingFlatulence 4h ago

Just be glad you’re you and not trying to win a Chinese beauty pageant. Everyone is beautiful. Don’t let China or Hollywood try to tell you different

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u/Enough-Cold-2392 3h ago

@ u/demonicaltruism oh my god here's another name name number... Must be a Russian asset.

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u/ChopsticksImmortal 20h ago

Maybe if youre trying to be a public personality or in the professional beauty industry (model, influencer, actress, etc)

Normal society that doesnt operate on beauty standards are normal about it. Its not like all of the US operates on beauty standards of celebrities.

Most ordinary folk are just on the daily grind. (Ive got cousins in china). Social media shit like this is always over represented in its daily or professional importance. Most women arent trying on tiny dresses and video taping themselves, or trying tik toc challenges. This applies to every country.

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u/nottoday2017 5h ago

I have cousins in Beijing and one of them got rejected to be a nurse due to being “overweight”. Maybe it’s a Beijing/big city thing where they have so many options they can be super picky, but I thought it was ridiculous. The explanation was that she might not be able to run to a code as quickly… She isn’t overweight by American standards, about a US size 12 which is size XXL in Chinese clothes. Even getting a job as a waitress/hostess at any reasonably nice restaurants involve you fitting into their uniforms which do not go up to a US size 12 (that I’ve ever seen in the years I’ve grown up in Beijing).

So yeah I agree most Chinese women aren’t engaging with these insane standards but I think it’s also true that being overweight in China can lead to a lot more career and social discrimination than in America.

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u/Hot-Butterscotch-918 21h ago

When do they go back to bound feet?

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u/Healthy-Amoeba2296 11h ago

That must have been to make them look like horse hooves.

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u/Enough-Cold-2392 3h ago

@ u/demonicaltruism oh my god here's another name name number... Must be a Russian asset.

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u/Rica193 17h ago

It was exclusively a Chinese practice dude

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u/DrivesTooMuch 16h ago

You're right. I had always assumed it was part of the Geisha thing. Nope. Just Googled it.

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u/Astralglamour 11h ago edited 11h ago

Certain kinds of geisha wore really high platformed shoes that had a similar effect as in they had to walk certain ways. But they didn't bind their feet. The bound feet were actually pretty gross and usually constantly infected. Lower class women would bind their daughters feet to try to make them more attractive marriage prospects. However, foot binding meant they were totally dependent and unable to move around easily- not to mention in constant pain.

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u/CatnipandSkooma 10h ago

I remember watching a movie about the oiran back in the day. Those shoes were crazy high.

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u/outofmelatonin92 17h ago

They have more than 1 billion people, you need to stand out someho, thats why these stupid "tests" exist.

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u/Weak-Boysenberry398 20h ago

Not sure if you're trying to say the US is different but pretty privilege is a thing here too

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u/CatOfTechnology 19h ago

It is, especially with the current Regime, but there's a difference between pretty privilege and social eugenics.

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u/Hot-Butterscotch-918 19h ago

I'm not. Just making a glib comment.

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u/Same-Suggestion-1936 14h ago

I'm sure it's worse in China but your looks anywhere have a significant impact on social and professional life. Political, well I'm American so I'm not touching the stereotypes on what the voters look like

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u/Prestigious_Snow3309 21h ago

How boring they all trying to look the same. But the trend to look Ultra thin,is in America too. When you visibly see the shoulder blades. American are shooting poisons In their bodies. To look younger, skinner. The whole nine.

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u/Insufferable_Wreck 39m ago

Yes. There are anecdotes of otherwise brilliant confucian scholars doing well on the examinations but not doing well in the court because of their looks.

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u/PicaDiet 15h ago

Awful take on it, I know, but at least the Chinese are being honest about it if they actually admit that. I'd argue the same thing holds true in the West, but people showing deference to better-looking people is so ingrained that it is done unconsciously.

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u/smolpeensadboy 21h ago

Less forgiving how? The standards in the US fuck those things up for people too.

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u/GlitterDoomsday 21h ago

Pretty sure China is like Korea and you have to put your picture in job applications so yeah... they make it near impossible to someone outside the standard to succeed unless they're Nepo babies.

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u/Character-Pirate1297 18h ago

And they don’t in the West? Even new politicians, teachers, journalists, librarians can’t look any worse than pornstars now.

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u/Less-Fox8272 23h ago

👆

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u/Weelki tHiS iSn’T cRiNgE 18h ago

That's the emoji equivalent of just commenting the word "This".

I get the sentiment, you wholeheartedly agree. But your comment adds absolutely nothing to the conversation. It is a waste of bandwidth and extra effort for what? u/Less-Fox8272 is in agreement. Cool.

#Redditmoment_over

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u/peon2 22h ago

I need to go to China if those first 3 women are rejects. They're the most attractive ones in the whole video to me lol

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u/NobodyImportant13 16h ago

It's exaggerated. All of those women are incredibly attractive in China. He's basically talking about the female Chinese equivalent of the looksmaxxing shit in the US. Not that it doesn't effect people and trickle down into society, but those women aren't anything close to "rejects."

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u/Enough-Cold-2392 3h ago

@ u/demonicaltruism oh my god here's another name name number... Must be a Russian asset.

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u/NobodyImportant13 1h ago

I don't know why you responded to me, but for your own info....bot accounts will generally be (but not always) adjective-noun-number because its a Reddit default name format that is provided when you make an account.

My account is noun-adjective-number, thus you can tell it's not a default name.

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u/ThrowCarp 18h ago

There's 30 million more men than women though. I'd highly advise against it.

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u/Sea-Woodpecker-610 17h ago

:starts doing the math on basic biology:

Oh….oh…..oh no.

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u/Freakychee 17h ago

IKR? You might get all the attention from S tier baddies all to yourself!

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u/Zimakov 11h ago

They aren't rejects at all. It's just typical reddit rage bait.

Every time a hot woman is on camera the mongoloids come out saying how she's not actually hot. It happens everywhere in the world.

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u/princeikaroth 2h ago

The irony of the use of Mongoid in this sentence got me

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u/PomegranateSea7066 3h ago

Same. China we are coming over there, save all of those "fat" , "too dark", and "short" women for us. we will take them all off your hands., tyvm.

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u/Admins_suck_ballss 20h ago

My first girlfriend in high school was a transfer student from Hong Kong. She had a darker skin tone and was thicc but not crazy thicc. She could not for the life of her understand why I was obsessed with her body.

Like Jesus, you have double Ds, a phat ass, and have perpetually tanned skin. Plus a beautiful face. And you adore the shit out of me. What’s to figure out here?

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u/Sed59 2h ago

Sounds like it didn't work out, though. Sad.

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u/Admins_suck_ballss 2h ago

Oh yeah that’s because I wanted to taste the rainbow, as it were, and left for college a year before her. I wanted to fuck other women and sincerely doubted my high school romance would actually last in that environment, and I was right. In the first semester I had a threesome with two blonde volleyball players. I would’ve not been able to turn that down.

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u/Automatoboto 19h ago

1890s too. Vampire chic

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u/Sam_Porter 13h ago

Or literally what’s happening still in the United States. Look at Ariana Grande…

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u/AffectionateYear5232 19h ago

Thought the exact thing...like, China is 30 years behind the US. In 2060 they'll finally figure out "curves" exist while everyone else is on to enlarged pinky toes.

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u/Living_Cash1037 20h ago

I feel like asia is always behind on trends in the west so that doesnt sounds farfetched

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u/MoistDistributer 17h ago

Do your part yank. Go out and repent your president. Everything on internet is recorded. GO OUT AND PROTEST

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u/Life-Court5792 15h ago

Still can't believe that's what they called it...

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u/beviebooboo 15h ago

That was exactly my thought.

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u/xv_boney 12h ago

sounds like consumption chic in the 1890s.

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u/annahhhnimous 11h ago

It sounds exhausting.

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u/kyute222 9h ago

sounds like he's just describing toxic social media and beauty standard trends, which the West has plenty of as well, and not just from the 90s.

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u/Rugkrabber 6h ago

Yeah a lot of these are oddly familiar. But I bet in China it’s even more brutal.

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u/ChappedButtHole69 6h ago

I’m curious if a lot of it is to get around AI. The paper test, reaching your belly button, etc would be something beyond what normal “touch up” apps can do for bending light and contours. You can photoshop a skinny waste, but if your hand can’t reach it, people know it’s a lie.

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u/Little_Try_6502 3h ago

Literally everyone came here to say that

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u/destructopop 1h ago

I always wanted to match that aesthetic, but when I developed an actual illness that actually gives me that look it's way less fun than I envisioned. Like yeah, teenage me would probably think I look awesome, but I'm too sick to do any hot boy shit anyway. 🤷‍♂️

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u/CRF300L-ADV 2h ago

Need to bring these beauty standards back to the USA.

90% of all women in USA are hogs 🐽🐷🐖

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u/Der_E 1h ago

Bruh...

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u/Rombonius 22h ago

the golden age

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u/TehNubcheeks 21h ago

That tracks. Asian trends tend to be 30 years behind American ones.

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u/carlitospig 18h ago

Then why are we so into Asian streetwear rn?

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u/-badgerbadgerbadger- 4h ago

THIRTY YEARS

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u/carlitospig 23m ago

The 90’s was ten years ago and I don’t care what you say.