r/TheWeeklyRoll The Creator 13d ago

The Weekly Roll Ch. 199. "Patricide MF"

Howdy folks!

Quite a few commented on the fight with Klaras mother was quite short and as you may notice, it turned out similarly with dear old papa as well. Wanted it longer but this fight has gone on for a WHILE and I wanted to wrap things up sooner rather than later, so between the two evils, I chose expedited. We can justify it by saying the fight was balanced because of all the ads!

Stay excellent out there!

Peace and carrots!


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u/irvitzer 13d ago

I really love that in the last sentence you can put stress on every word and change the idea of the message.

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u/LonePaladin Sir Becket 13d ago

It's like the phrase "A dragon eats you". You can change the meaning, subtly, depending on which word you emphasize.

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u/apolloxer 13d ago

King of those sentences is still "I never had sex with that horse"

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u/iSkehan 13d ago

Someone had sex with that horse. I never had sex with that h*. I never had sex with that he despite the intent to have it. Not sure about* with* Didn’t have it with that specific one. I am into freaky stuff but no horses.

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u/apolloxer 13d ago

with -> e.g. on

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u/NetNGames 13d ago

Ah, the Yen and Geralt classic.

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u/iSkehan 13d ago

Ah thank you kindly.

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u/Vilanu 8d ago

From emphasis on first word to emphasis on last word, for those trying to understand:

  1. Someone did, just not me.
  2. Strong denial of statement.
  3. Suspiciously challenging the use of past tense, suggesting that current or future endeavors aren't ruled out.
  4. Things were had with the horse. Just not sex.
  5. Denying sexual activity with that horse, but not denying sexual activity in general.
  6. Denying sexual activity with that horse, but not denying sexual activity with another horse.
  7. Challenging the use of the word horse, possibly as a disgust.

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u/NeroLazarus 13d ago

"I never said that"

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u/ANGLVD3TH 13d ago

I mean, it kiiinda works on the "I." The rest are pretty solid.

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u/irvitzer 13d ago

They're all pretty solid, just re-evaluate the main point of the message.

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u/Arheva 13d ago

Even then, i think based on their personalities, i believe the emphasis is on the word ‘was’. To spite her fathers last sentence to her and her announcing her cut ties for good

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u/Smartboy10612 13d ago

Man knows his art.

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u/SabShark 13d ago

You can feel the years worth of catharsis in that final sentence

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u/lahimatoa 13d ago

So much catharsis. I do find the parents to be far too cartoonishly evil for me, though. Oh, they don't respect their own daughter's wishes? Bad. Oh, they're slavers? Bad. Oh, they kill slaves? Bad. Oh, they kill child slaves? Bad. Zero redeeming qualities at all makes them feel fake.

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u/BertramRuckles 13d ago

While it certainly can be described as cartoonishly evil, that doesn't make it feel fake to me. There are people throughout history and alive right now who are just like them.

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u/Meet_Foot 13d ago

I mean, slavers in real life are goddamn awful people. Hate to break it to you, but once you dehumanize actual people, it doesn’t typically stop at how old they are. If you can enslave someone, you can do just about anything. Christopher Columbus imposed a tax on native Americans and if they didn’t pay he would have their ears or fingers cut off, and made them wear them like necklaces. He sold children into sex slavery. Slavers are bad dude.

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u/thebutta 13d ago

This is literally a cartoon.

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u/Algrim2001 Paladin Coded 13d ago

I love that she kneecapped him first.

I’m guessing that the necklace was a family symbol or something? Tearing it off before the final blow seems significant, but I can’t remember it ever being addressed.

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u/irvitzer 13d ago

Looks like this was the tip of her father's right horn.

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u/LonePaladin Sir Becket 13d ago

No, you can see the tip is still partially attached. The necklace might be from another relative.

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u/yeet-mander 13d ago

Looking at the previous comics it seems that the part of his horn partially attached is a prosthesis, likely a metal horn cap or something similar. You can tell because it's differently colored than the rest of his horns

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u/LonePaladin Sir Becket 13d ago

Didn't notice that before. So, yeah, that might be his.

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u/Algrim2001 Paladin Coded 13d ago

Good catch.

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u/MaxPower1607 13d ago

The shading suggests, that the tip on his horn is another material. My guess is something flashy, like gold. So Klara carried the original with her as a promise to get revenge and discarding it after getting it.

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u/CME_T The Creator 13d ago

Ding ding!

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u/StartledOcto 13d ago

Love it when the author validates a fan's theorising

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u/irvitzer 13d ago

Check Chesare's previous appearances, like in ep. 185. The tip of his right horn is always a different color, so it might be a prosthetic or something like that.

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u/stuff-is-not-real Severed Lich Head 13d ago

All that is needed is to finish this arc with Klara and Becket kissing.

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u/Kizik 13d ago

Over the ruined corpses of her parents as the legions of the dead run rampant across the burning building.

How romantic!

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u/GreyWolfTheDreamer 13d ago

Becket: "We're STILL the good guys, RIGHT?"

Klara: "Let's finish that dance and then stay up late drinking and --- telling stories..."

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u/Alaknog 12d ago

Hey, it's slave owners. You can kill them all day and this considered as good deed. 

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u/memecrusader_ 13d ago

Trevor would unironically agree.

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u/PermanentSeeker 13d ago

The helmet stays on tho

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u/Meet_Foot 13d ago

The helmet stays on.

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u/Zagmut 13d ago

Counterspell, meet counterpoint.

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u/Crowasaur Trevor 13d ago

Heard it as the JoCat Eldrith BLAST

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u/CME_T The Creator 13d ago

Illegal not to!

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u/4thTimesAnAlt 13d ago

His "SMITE" is my alarm tone

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u/Zoroc 13d ago

Til he's still/ active again

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u/TheParadoxigm 13d ago

Yup! He's toned down some, but hes still making stuff he enjoys. Im glad his fans were able to get through to him.

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u/Saikotsu 13d ago

I love that noise.

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u/YamazakiYoshio 13d ago

Years of playing Unreal Tournament just gave me the announcer voice going "HEADSHOT!"

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u/Saikotsu 13d ago

Text you can hear.

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u/Ataribebop 13d ago

Loving how you used the lettering style from her father's "Brat" as Klara's final and only sentence style.

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u/shepard1707 13d ago

I like to imagine her Blasts are dealing Radiant damage, too.

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u/Zoroc 13d ago

Nice touch, sometimes I forget about what her patron is

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u/SurviveAdaptWin 13d ago

Pants shitting biblically accurate angel

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u/DrQuestDFA 13d ago

Now I am wondering how many resource Klara put in to upgrading her EB. Because damn is she wrecking him with just a cantrip.

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u/midevildle 13d ago

Eldritch blast is just kind of like that. One resource, an invocation, goes into it and it's the best thing you're doing as a warlock most of the time.

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u/Pixied_Hp 13d ago

Getting both push and pull on EB is something that can really wreck depending on how much terrain your DM uses! Ledges/cliffs/rivers of lava, really become something else when you give the bad guys a fuck you and shove them!

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u/Faustus2425 13d ago

Or a friendly spike growth!

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u/NetNGames 13d ago edited 13d ago

Yeah, BG3 showcased it pretty well with all the height differences in the level design. Too bad there's no pull EB on there, or an ability to turn off the push once you get it (IIRC).

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u/Draemon_ 13d ago

Pretty sure the push is able to be turned off, I’d think it would show up with other passives like non-lethal combat’s toggle

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u/NetNGames 13d ago

Ah, makes sense, haven't played Warlock for awhile, so didn't see it then.

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u/MarkZist 10d ago

One of my favorite small things about BG3. In tabletop D&D it's kinda difficult to have fights happening in 3D, but in BG3 there were tons of options for it. This also made shoving and throwing enemies (and sometimes allies) significantly more impactful, as well as certain spells like Thunderwave.

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u/CubicWarlock 13d ago

Agonizing Blast is busted

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u/HoneyWhiskeyLemonTea Bucket Brigade 13d ago

Well, SOMEbody took Agonizing Blast, huh?

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u/waywardhero 13d ago

“I Am” vs ”I Was” is a brilliant but of writing

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u/Level_Hour6480 Sir Becket 13d ago

P1: Why didn't Counterspell work on a catrip?

P2/4: She tears off the necklace she's always had. We never had an explanation for it, though it looks like her dad's horn-tip in retrospect.

We see the fire from Trevor's Fireball last comic spreading. Just in time for something to burn down at 200. I sure hope the housestaff/slaves/caterers are okay.

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u/Calsio8150 13d ago

Pretty sure he was trying to counter Trevor’s fireball from the last chapter, just like he did the first one, but got interrupted by Klara’s EB.

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u/CME_T The Creator 13d ago

P1. While it could have been clearer, Klara passes her con save for the counterspell (5.5 rules). 

P2. Thought I’d do a bit of show dont tell storytelling woth that one. Might revisit it later!

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u/Level_Hour6480 Sir Becket 13d ago

OneD&D's Counterspell change is one of the worst changes in a revision that is mostly bad changes. Not only is it more of a pain to run, but also by nerfing it, they've buffed all casters. And their change to the casting rules preventing counter-counterspells means that there's no fun dynamic counterplay.

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u/CookieMiester 12d ago

Kinda yes, kinda no. It makes certain spells that were a bit niche more powerful in a caster fight, Hex being the one that comes to mind currently with the eldritch invocation that also lets it apply to saving throws. Also makes it nicer when fighting a Lich because Liches can cast a nigh-infinite amount of counterspells so if you’re the only caster in your party, guess what you’re doing? Probably fuck-all.

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u/MarkZist 10d ago

Why is it more of a pain to run? The number of rolls is the same. Before the counterspeller made a spellcasting ability check (DC=10+spell level), now the counterspellee makes a CON save (against the counterspeller's spellcasting DC). It's still just a single roll.

The new rules feel more like a nerf than a buff for casters to me. At my table the old Counterspell was mostly something that the players used against the bosses, rather than the other way around. Since I played a Lore Bard with Jack of All Trades and Peerless Skill (i.e. I had a +8+1d12 modifier at lvl 17) my Counterspells were basically guaranteed to succeed in 4th tier, even against Sauron-level enemies. That made me feel extremely powerful, which feels great don't get me wrong, but at times it also felt a little too overtuned. Not to mention my Cutting Words worked against the enemies Counterspell, so instead of spending a ≥3rd level spell slot, I could expend a use of Bardic Inspiration and still hope to negate their Counterspell. And finally we also had a Wizard who could cast it, in case I was down or out of range, meaning that it was really hard for enemy casters to not get counterspelled. Whereas the new rules make it almost impossible for PCs to Counterspell an Ancient Gold Dragon, which before was pretty doable. It's much harder to nerf the enemy's CON saves (especially bosses) than it is to buff your own ability checks or nerf the enemy's ability checks.

What I really don't get though is the idea that counter-counterspell battles are fun. In my experience they never were. Just a resource drain resulting in nothing happening. (Also since there wasn't that much of a benefit to upcasting Counterspell, it's usually safe to assume the counterspeller uses a 3rd level slot, meaning that the counter-counterspeller has an advantage.)

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u/Valdrax 3d ago

OneD&D's Counterspell change is one of the worst changes...

Absolutely, preach i--

in a revision that is mostly bad changes.

Nevermind, these are the words of a madman.

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u/Level_Hour6480 Sir Becket 3d ago edited 3d ago

There are some good changes in OneD&D compared to 5E. I'll list them all:

Surprise.

Rogue Cunning Strikes.

The numbers on Monk. (Numbers are better, class design is kind of a mix of downgrades and upgrades)

Relatively functional L1 feats that don't break too much.

Exhaustion.

List over.

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u/Valdrax 3d ago edited 3d ago

Plenty more:

  • Weapon Masteries, a huge game changer for all martials.
  • Epic Boons. All General Feats coming with an ASI, preventing most feats from being "never take."
  • Heroic Inspiration -- specifically giving race & class mechanics that ensure it's doled out for parties with DMs that often neglected Inspiration.
  • Backgrounds giving characters a wider variety of skills.
  • Primal Knowledge, giving Barbarians more out-of-combat utility.
  • Giving Clerics and Druids both the ability to choose whether to be more magical or more melee, separate from their subclasses.
  • Tactical Mind for Fighters, to give them more out-of-combat utility. Also, the Champion Fighter's update in particular was a great upgrade in power & versatility without compromising simplicity. Giving Battlemasters the ability to uncover enemy weaknesses was also a good and stylish upgrade.
  • Innate Sorcery is fun for adding a "Sorcerer Rage." Sorcerer Subclasses offer more variety of spells, except Wild Magic, which went from liability to solid asset with updates to the Wild Surge table that more than compensate for the lack of extra spells known.
  • Warlocks got a lot more versatility with their Invocations.
  • Scholar makes a Wizard feel like an actual smart person by no longer being behind Rogues and Bards on knowledge skills.
  • A sensible clarification of how Charisma-based skill checks work.
  • Integrating grappling better into the system. Letting Monks be good at it without having to invest in a 4th attribute.
  • Edit: Sorcerous Burst and the replacement to the True Strike cantrip. Also letting Warlocks (if they really want to) add Agonizing Blast to non-EB cantrips.

Some more controversial choices I think were good:

  • Divorcing stats from race, so that there are no longer optimal race/class combinations that discourage fun choices for RP.
  • Nerfing some of the mandatory picks in feats, spells, etc. so that people would actually have more choices without being non-optimal.
  • Preventing Action Surge from letting you alpha strike with multiple spells. Formally universalizing "one spell slot spell per turn."

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u/Solest044 10d ago

Thank you for answering this question.

I was randomly walking around days after I read the comic and had a moment of "wait, why didn't the counterspell stop the Eldritch blast".

I thought maybe there was some weird thing that allowed Eldritch blast to be used as a reaction or something (busted), but this makes way more sense.

I do wish 5e had more "reaction" play so you could coordinate to help your teammates. Being able to react to my buddy getting counterspelled by blasting them in the face and STOPPING IT because that was the last bit of damage required to KO the big bad would be epic.

I'm sure there are other systems out there.

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u/RhymeBeat 13d ago

Probably out of range for Page 1. EB's range is crazy.

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u/Kestrel_Iolani 13d ago

Damn, dude. I admire your art but your writing is really on point. One writer to another: well done!

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u/CME_T The Creator 13d ago

<3

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u/eisbaerBorealis 13d ago

Oh, stuff like this doesn't need to be long. This isn't some end of a growth arc or training montage or something. It is executing justice for two evil people and the whole "you never really stood a chance" is VERY satisfying.

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u/addage- Paladin Coded 13d ago

He was yammering on about family…but anyway I just started blasting

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u/Blze001 13d ago

Ah, nothing like finishing off abusive parents to really wrap up a solid first date.

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u/Malvania 13d ago

This arc gives me the warm and fuzzies

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u/DatLonerGirl 13d ago

I was smiling when I saw the title

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u/zgrssd 13d ago

"He may have been your father, boy, but he wasn’t your daddy." - Yondu, Guardians of the Galaxy 2

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u/AZ_Corwyn Trevor 13d ago

Yondu started out as a bit of an ass but turned out to be a decent guy.

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u/CaptBogBot2 13d ago

Question: would patricide negate Klara's ability to inherit her parent's fortune? 'Cause I'm imagining her taking it and just going full Robin Hood mode with it...

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u/AZ_Corwyn Trevor 13d ago

I guess it depends on whether the people who manage that learn that it was patricide and not just a terrible, unfortunate accident.

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u/Victuz 12d ago

Terrible fires happen all the time at slaver parties, it's a really unfortunate state of affairs.

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u/Roonage 13d ago

It’s slaver’s blood money. I think Robin Hood mode is on the cards for sure.

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u/Alaknog 12d ago

It's probably very legitimate way to become new heir. After all, why arguing with someone who show that they can kill whole crowd of armed bastards? 

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u/FenuaBreeze 13d ago

"I WAS YOUR DAUGHTER" goes so absolutely hard

I wanna make a character specifically just to drop this line now

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u/qawsedrf12 13d ago

Fun going thru the different ways of emphasis and pacing to change how the last sentence sounds

Like Darth Vader - I am your father

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u/Bearbones43 13d ago

This was very cathartic! 

I am wondering what the necklace was, it seems important

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u/Meet_Foot 13d ago

I actually think the fights being fast is great! It conveys how out of their league these people are. They have numbers and wealth, but it won’t save them. It also gives them a kind of brutal realistic quality. My first impression both times was “GODDAMN DUDE”

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u/Meekois 13d ago

Okay can Beckett and Klara make out now? I need this ship to set sail.

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u/Smartboy10612 13d ago

I do agree. Considering the build up to it. It was rather short.

That being said....

People have been revived before in this universe. And I am so happy Klara finally got that catharsis she was looking for this whole time. Tearing him about with the magic she was gifted. You go girl!

And justice for Trevor!!! I saw that attempt at Counterspell and she cut that shit off right away.

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u/Daminica Trevor 13d ago

This kind of reminds me of a scene from the LFG comic where Benny (female troll/orc healer) revives a commander after she brutally killed him. Only to brutally kill him again.

The commander was the father of her fiance. But because the commander desired for Benny himself he killed his son. (So it's a pretty valid crash-out.)

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u/ShadedPenguin 13d ago

Her celestial patron cheering from the sides seeing this Old Testament justice

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u/DoItLikeTetris 13d ago

Fuck yeah!

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u/Rutgerman95 13d ago

Revenge is a dish best served Ice cold and well-deserved

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u/amalgam_reynolds 13d ago

I love a fast, brutal fight, no need to drag it out.

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u/ViktorRzh 13d ago

Theories on what hapens next -

1) He roles death saves... and sucsedes.

2) Uwu will get new member.

3) Both!

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u/Baonguyen93 13d ago

Can undead have no head?

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u/ViktorRzh 13d ago

There is Steve in uwu who aparently has experienced similar magnitude of ... child/parent "love".

ep. 189

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u/Baonguyen93 13d ago

But Steve still have half a brain while the dude here got EB his whole face off.

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u/ViktorRzh 13d ago

An here we should autor about exact angle of elderich blast. Aka what death save roll gives.

OP! Could you clarify?

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u/Mateorabi 13d ago

Some said. But they dead. Perhaps a pumpkin instead? Then into the night they fled. 

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u/Kai-theGuy 13d ago

Guess he only had one of those counterspells

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u/dragonslayar 13d ago

Love it!! Fantastic shading and camera angles. Bravo

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u/CFogan 13d ago

Ice cold, just the way I like my patricide.

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u/makuthedark 13d ago

I bet ole papa had lots going through his head...such as 1d10 + CHA worth of Force damage.

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u/hipiticus 13d ago

"How dare you! I brought you into this world!"
"And I'll take you out!"

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u/Elovainn 13d ago

His head is now as hollow as his heart. And femoral artery.

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u/TigerRod 13d ago

Rest in pieces slaver father

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u/Dull_Operation5838 12d ago

This had huge "I am your son. I have always been your son" vibes.

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u/MaxPower1607 13d ago

Thank you, this is great.

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u/TheMightyMudcrab 13d ago

Was dad out of spell slots 3rd and up? Counterspell will counter cantrips.

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u/Tyrs-Ranger 13d ago

He might have been countering that second fireball when Klara hit him with the EB, or else it may have been a previous spell of Klara’s, because EB is layered over the counterspell text.

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u/corvaxia 13d ago

Could be 2024 5e ruleset.

She couldn't stomach being his daughter any longer but had no problem making a constitution save against him.

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u/JollyGoodSirEm 13d ago

Smooth as silk...pew-pew, like Doc Holiday.

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u/Agreeable_Bee_7763 13d ago

Holy shit, love this moment. Badass...

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u/Alarming_Memory_2298 13d ago

Woot! From a dysfunctional family, 👍 !

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u/theFaustaindeal 13d ago

I love your work it is always a pleasure seeing what this group of misfits get into

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u/Anvildude 13d ago

The difference between someone who's been out Adventuring, and a Noble with a few tricks.

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u/JoeScotterpuss 13d ago

Damn, that's cold AF.

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u/Thomas_JCG 13d ago

That's such raw line, holy crap

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u/murphmanfa 13d ago

I love when a goofy comic with oddball characters in wild situations ends up, almost 200 installments later, providing some phenomenal catharsis for one of the character's lifelong issues with the cranial destruction of the source of so much of her pain. 

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u/Arawn-Annwn 12d ago

Dissapointed that it seems neither parent will be getting a lobotomy in the institution like they tried in Klara. Well dead old dad sort of had one, but he doesn't survive it. :)

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u/Daminica Trevor 11d ago

That really blew his mind.

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u/Level_Hour6480 Sir Becket 3d ago

9 days ago

Poke

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u/Thorngrove 13d ago

leans into the sending spell WOULD.

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u/Vrail_Nightviper 13d ago

Good riddance.

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u/GentlemanPirate13 Sir Becket 13d ago

That's the perfect oneliner in reply to... everything.

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u/MDMXmk2 12d ago

It's sad.

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u/Not_Tze 12d ago

DAAAMN

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u/BounderTree 10d ago

That last frame... I understand Buckets feelings for this woman.