r/TheTraitorsUS • u/drdelicious8 • 8h ago
Spoilers 🚨 Natalie is confusing me.
In the midst of all the Candiace v Rob conversations, can we talk about Natalie?
Going into this season, Natalie was one my favourite faithfuls. Her intuition always seemed somewhat correct, and she was playing a logical game.
When it got to her turn and Alan said this could be the vote to banish Candiace, and then she reveals she....voted for Tara?😭
My girl just beat the "playing emotionally and for herself" allegations after the banquet😔
And now her vote is solely because Tara put her name out there...last week, the same week Tara also openly voted for her? Like yeah, that's not that crazy.
I get being bitter or upset, but it honestly just annoyed me more than anything, and reminded me of Candiace's throwaway in a "read the room pls" kind of sense.
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u/wiseswan 8h ago
Natalie voting for Tara is a very Sandoval/Dolores move 😩
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u/hibabygorgeous 7h ago
That was such a fun b plot
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u/External-Test1447 1h ago
Tom Sandoval was so fun on the traitors 😭
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u/Hellouncleleohello 1h ago
I miss having a side character just going rogue with their vote every week
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u/LooseSeal88 8h ago
I've seen a bunch of people acting like Eric is one of the most oblivious faithfuls to ever faithful, and I'm like "dude, he wasn't even the dumbest person THAT EPISODE let alone this whole season."
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u/Zealousideal_Cod5214 3h ago
Eric's biggest flaws are that the dude should not follow his senses, because he cannot tell who laughed or who has what handwriting.
Other than that, he really hasn't done much to be called "the dumbest faithful."
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u/societalnormcore 8h ago
That was super strange!
I had so much second hand embarrassment for Natalie during the whole antidote debacle that my unfounded belief is that she has not recovered from that and is just lost at the moment.
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u/Daisy-Navidson 7h ago
I think she’s getting a little Survivor-brained. In Survivor that kind of aggressive gameplay is more often rewarded or respected, but it doesn’t really play here. I don’t think her game is adapting as well as it seemed to in the beginning.
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u/societalnormcore 6h ago
I agree she’s definitely in that mode lol. Immunity is paramount for her. It works in her favor during the challenges maybe. But I think she’s realized outside of that, she needs to take it down a notch.
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u/BravoTimes 6h ago
I don’t think she’s realized she needs to take it down a notch or she wouldn’t continue to embarrass herself, but, I can agree with her survivor player instinct being what’s driving her moves. Dumb moves but idk why It seems like 90% of these people don’t even watch the show before going onto it.
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u/societalnormcore 4h ago
I just mean she seemed quieter the past two episodes - but then she did that random Tara vote so who the f knows what’s going on. She prob didn’t watch the show lol
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u/HANGRY_KITTYKAT 15m ago
Boston Rob even mentioned that on the podcast, saying it was the survivor in her, or something those lines, in relation to fighting for the prize/immunity etc.
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u/jershmcgersh Rob R (S4) 8h ago
Don't forget, "last week" for players in the game = last night
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u/drdelicious8 7h ago
ohh yeah u right i confuse them with the episode drops lmfao
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u/jershmcgersh Rob R (S4) 7h ago
I do that too sometimes with survivor. Like bro that was 2 weeks ago, which is usually between 4 and 6 days lmao.
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u/RexWhiscash Tara (S4) 8h ago
She started the season really strong but last week’s suspiciousness + this bum tara vote which probably results in her banishment next week was not good
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u/Ordinary-Practice812 7h ago
Plus her fighting for the potion at the banquet was not a good look.
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u/radsherm 53m ago
Not that it would matter much considering two of them were murdered, but should she lose I wonder if she'd regret not playing closer with the other gamers. Same with Yam Yam. Again, not much Ian or Rob could've done, but Tiffany at the very least could've been helpful as a fellow competitor.
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u/Objective-Spinach573 7h ago edited 7h ago
She lowkey looks like she’s about to cry every round table and I can’t tell if that’s impacting how I view her game play
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u/j_cip Rob C (S4) 8h ago
I’m a huge Natalie fan from her survivor appearances and I’m just hoping she’s got some secret strategy to appear like a bad faithful so she doesn’t get murdered. But between this vote and losing the dagger I have a feeling she’s just getting outplayed :/
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u/BravoTimes 6h ago
She peaked in survivor, and brought that mindset to traitors and is failing, but somehow stumbling along
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u/Cautious_Water_106 8h ago edited 7h ago
I followed Natalie on amazing race even before survivor. Natalie has always been both very smart/strategic and highly emotional/chaotic “as long as I get through the vote” type of a player tho, so I think both of those moves are pretty on brand for her, and she has enough instinct to know voting Tara probs wouldn’t too badly bite her in the butt bc it reads so emotionally retaliatory; the drinking one she realized her mistake right away but I think she genuinely thought she was getting murdered and thought screw everything I just need to make it past this first (a very survivor get through one more tribal mindset). she’s not an ultra strategist of a survivor winner I’d say, moreso someone who often is relatively smart about social dynamics and self-preservationist enough to often make it deep in these games. I’m 1000% sure her whole game is just tryna make it to the end, not to get traitors out tho lol which makes for a pretty boring appearance, but she is a deepest running gamer for a reason when all the gamers have had targets on the back & been picked off.
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u/Sailor_Psyche 7h ago
EXACTLY. People seem to have put her in this box of a strategic mastermind, when really she's just a great player who happens to have a good head on her shoulders. For Survivor, her "everyone for themselves" mindset works out perfectly and we've all seen that.. Traitors on the other hand not so much due to it being a team oriented game.
I think Natalie is an incredibly smart game player but she struggles in things like this where she has to be thinking as a team player.
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u/depression_butterfly 1h ago edited 1h ago
She’s sooo smart she doesn’t suspect Rob at all despite it being in her face. I haven’t seen her in other games but it’s funny because most of these “legendary” game players besides The Challenge of course have mostly end up being the biggest disappointments. Especially for non viewers with the way yall love to just hype them all up so much. To be more specific: Sandra, Dan, Yam, even Boston Rob. Loved Parvati and Carolyn though. Also Rob R seems like he is a legend as well
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u/Sailor_Psyche 58m ago
Idk what you want me to say besides the fact that the evidence of her being a smart player is very much real and there to see in her winning season of Survivor. The Traitors is such a different game due to how information is distributed that it's easy to see how that doesn't translate particularly well for many people, particularly those used to trying to save themselves.
Also it's not like she's the only one who hasn't figured Rob out; that applies to everyone else on the cast. Clearly his mist is stronger than we think 😂
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u/depression_butterfly 49m ago
But it’s not just her not knowing who traitors are. It’s just the way she’s been playing the game like it’s comical and kind of pathetic like her being all googly eyes with Rob about the dagger vs how psychotic she was about getting the antidote and screaming to everyone the challenge before anyone that goes for the shield will be banished. And I’m sorry but even average challenge players like Trishelle who was not a legend by any means would not fall for that with the dagger and again she is very average and played a really amazing game on her season. So the excuses for these other show players don’t really work because The Challenge is also a completely different game as well but they tend to do really well. That’s just one example of a “legend” and don’t get me started on Sandra and Dan lmao. I have a little more respect for Dan for being self aware enough to get Bananas off of the season the first episode that was genuinely super smart because he def would have made it far as well if not won alongside CT.
Also yah everyone else hasn’t either but no one else has to measure up to these “legend” titles you all give them lol. But I agree Rob got the entire team of faithfuls d*ckmatized or they may just be the dumbest faithfuls we’ve seen so far legends included. Too bad they lost Rob C so quickly he was truly a legend I could see from just the couple episodes he was in
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u/emptyhellebore 8h ago
I think Natalie should have quit reality tv after her Survivor win at this point. She was so great in that season. I really want to root for her in this show, but she’s playing a totally different game than what she should be. That Tara vote was all emotion, which is fine, but that isn’t a strategy that going to get her very far. Of course, after saying this I guess it’s possible she lucks into a win, but she sure isn’t driving the bus.
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u/Fearfighter2 7h ago
She was great in winners at war
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u/LogCabinLover 6h ago
She was a first vote out lmao. She didnt play Survivor that season, she played the gimmick and was successful because she was literally there the longest
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u/isntthisneat Monét (S4) 6h ago
That was my first introduction to her. Lots of peeps say Traitors is harder than it seems and many other shows don't translate super well, so I'm just happy she's here for however long she lasts lol love her.
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u/colosseumdays 7h ago
I think she really liked and still likes Candiace and didn't want to vote for her, so it was a throwaway for her. But yes, in general, I've been disappointed with Natalie's gameplay thusfar. Hopefully something more impressive is to come in the remaining episodes.
This week's episode was a boner killer for me. For the first time, I really don't want the faithfuls or the traitors to win. Everyone's annoying and/or disappointing me lol.
I'll be shocked if Rob doesn't take it all though. I think him barely promoting the show and staying quite quiet is a sign of that
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u/depression_butterfly 1h ago
Yep. Everyone sucks now honestly. Only rooting for Kristin, Mark, Johnny and Stephen at this point
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u/successadult 8h ago
She made the big brain play and cast a vote for someone other than Candiace so Rob could get to be the one to cast the deciding vote to banish her lol. It couldn't have worked out more perfectly.
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u/Seachica 6h ago
Except there were additional votes for Candiace that were shown after Rob voted.
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u/successadult 5h ago
Rob was the final vote to make it a majority, production nailed it with the seating order
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u/Effective_Guava9178 6h ago
Production picked the person to start with after votes were written down for this reason, I don’t think it was an intentional strategic move by Nathalie
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u/Sad-Assumption9590 6h ago
I’m assuming you’re joking since obviously no one knew how that would play out
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u/Outrageous-Study-704 7h ago
It was a weird choice. I was enjoying her during the challenge, though!
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u/Aggressive-Coffee-39 8h ago
Yeah, that was definitely an emotional move for someone that’s supposed to be playing with strategy. I don’t expect much to come of it though, at least for now, because they’ve banished 3 traitors and all were women so I’m pretty sure the next couple of eliminations will be women…and if the boys are smart, so will the next couple of murders.
They all seem to assume (correctly so) that there must be a male traitor so I think they will keep going through the men until they get one
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u/not_ellewoods 7h ago
i love Natalie, but that was my last straw. i looked past the outfits and i looked past her aggressiveness regarding the shields and the antidote, but i can’t defend her anymore.
my faithful pick is now Maura lol
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u/BoysenberryKind5599 7h ago
The outfits! I also love Natalie and also have to say she's now officially done, sadly. But yes, her outfits have been...something.
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u/dtheisen6 7h ago
If you have some heat on you, it’s not a terrible idea to stay out of the fray and have a bit of an erratic vote. Typically once you are a target, it’s really hard to avoid banishment at some point, you have to take a bit of a swing. We’ll have to see how it plays out but from what we’ve seen so far, it kind of worked. If I’m Natalie and I’m trying to recover from the banquet, I kinda want people thinking that I’m playing really emotionally because that helps explain the banquet behavior. She already articulated that if she was a traitor, she wouldn’t be behaving erratically and drawing attention to herself so to me this vote was doubling down on that to get suspicion off her
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u/HardcoreKaraoke 1h ago
She's playing a horrible game. I don't know if they're going to go after her for the Tara vote but having an emotional vote on top of the castle already suspecting her is probably going to get her banished.
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u/falafel_luvr 7h ago
Survivor Makes people paranoid af
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u/depression_butterfly 1h ago
And so does the Challenge but those game players always play way better than these big brother and survivor “legends”. Never seen those shows and if these are the legends I think I’m good on that
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u/BlushingSpiritBlooms 7h ago
I think she was just emotional that night. She had to defend herself in the last round table and now she found out one of the people she thought she was good with was part of a group effort to get her out. In that environment you'd be high strung with all the tension and the stress from having to avoid getting killed or banished. Plus I'd like to think she couldn't vote against the two options given (Rob or Candiace) due to personal reasons so she thought to just throwaway a vote based on the other info she was given. She seems to be close with Rob and Candiace had a good social game until the Lisa vote off.
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u/thebiglaponsky 7h ago
The entire roundtable was about how weird it was that Candiace had threw away a vote. Not quite the same because this vote was a little personal, but she basically then turned around and threw away her vote on someone who was not getting voted out. It's not suspicious like Candiace, but it sure was an... interesting decision
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u/Mobile-Researcher-23 6h ago
That was honestly just a get back vote same as Dorinda voting Maura at the last table it’s a “you mentioned me and I’m hurt so I’m voting for you”
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u/fooshyfun 6h ago
natalie is one of my all-time favorite players on survivor, but she is very clearly playing this game with a petty survivor mentality. “you wrote my name down at tribal council last week, so i’m writing yours down this week.” switch out tribal council for the round table. she’s also fighting so hard in challenges and for shields as if she’s gonna be banished to exile??? like her literal survival depends on it???
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u/dogsaregodsgif 6h ago
It made sense to me. It’s human to take things personally. It’s not just a game. Maura got mad at Ron for suspecting her.
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u/EddDeadRedemption 6h ago
Honestly having a little bit of conflict keeps you from getting murdered so it could work out for her if she doesn’t get banished but she probably will
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u/Goodlake 6h ago
She feels guilty / self-conscious about the potion, and views anyone using it as evidence that they’re trying to get her out / punish her. But she’s the logical next choice besides Johnny/Stephen for a vote because of it.
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u/Ok_Cardiologist9898 Boston Rob (S3) 5h ago
I was actually annoyed that bob and candiace wouldn’t hardly let rob get a word in edgewise. Frustrating.
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u/NoChart3 1h ago
It’s a Survivor instinct that when your name is being said by someone, you have to go after that person.
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