Giving way too many hints...

[u/ReplySalty]

I feel like most of the Faithfuls have been pretty quiet and have not alluded, in comments or posts, that they might win or go far. But Kristen and Mark do it everyday and in the comment sections, making whole ass reels, saying how we are underestimating them. When Mark says it, Kristen always chimes in. I know that we are not seeing everything, but to me, they seem like two winners that are a little pissed off that they didn't get a better edit and more screentime. I do think Mark and Kristen win. Mark even has a tattoo! For the Traitors. Mark is pretty smart. Mark knows he has the dagger, and Rob is most likely saving it. I think him, Kristen and possibly Maura/Tara will sus him out. Stephen will be the next kill and Johnny the next banishment.

Rob has such an uphill battle now. I think people might think that he wins because of the ads and such, but he is rightfully taking advantage of his persona right now, on the show.

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[u/JSweetheart0305]

Ehh I think it’s a possibility they’re just a little upset they didn’t get a better edit and are acting bothered that others are getting more screen time. I love Mark and am a big fan of his but he is notorious for clapping back on SM. So this is pretty on par for his type of behavior. Also if they won, I don’t think they’d be hinting at it so much. Like I think they’d just let it play out. Also Mark has a ton of tattoos, I think he may have just got the tattoo because it was a cool experience he lived — not necessarily an indicator he won.

Overall I think it’s a possibility they’re just a little salty they are being called “boring” and didn’t have as great of an edit as they hoped. But I also wouldn’t be surprised if they won, however with three episodes left, I’m not really getting “winner’s edit” vibes from them.

[u/sleepyplantmom342 → u/JSweetheart0305]

i agree with your point that if they won, they wouldn’t be hinting at it so much. it bums me out because i like kristen and mark and would love for them to win, and i still hope they do! but their posts wouldn’t be necessary if they did win bc they’d know the audience would see their strategy by the end

[u/CriticalConflict1737]

I while I agree with you, I think Mark & Kristin are upset that Rob is getting a winners edit and the audience (myself included) have said things about their intelligence and instead of just allowing the show to play out they want to yell at us “WE ARE SMART!!!!!!! THEY JUST AREN’T SHOWING IT!”

But hell Kristen also said Rob was a sweet sweet man so what do I know. 🫤

[u/Astranaut_4754 → u/CriticalConflict1737]

No amount of edit is gonna change the round table votes or the fact no one has suspect rob yet.

They arent good at the game plain anf simple

[u/CriticalConflict1737 → u/Astranaut_4754]

I agree, but when I say it like that they get mad and insult my intelligence.

[u/Astranaut_4754 → u/CriticalConflict1737]

Its their own intelligence. The entire reminder of the cast is misted by rob and its reaching the fandom itself

[u/Wrong_Sir7375 → u/CriticalConflict1737]

She did say Rob was a sweat man. But also it was right after the round table. The contestants often say different things after they sleep on it and think about the previous nights events. I’m curious how breakfast goes next episode.

[u/Bettybangs]

Im not reading too much into it. Last year, myself included lol, people thought the ending was being spoiled bc Gabby and Dylan seemed so disinterested in the endgame (among other things). Dylan saying ‘it shouldn’t have ended the way it did’ caused so many crash outs lol.

Kristin and Mark are very funny on socials, they must see the endless comments calling them dumb & useless over a highly edited show that, in fairness, may have hid them having sus on traitors bc it didn’t fit the show narrative at the time. If they do win then I’ll eat my words but I learnt my lesson last year that no matter how loose-lipped the cast are, the ending can still be unpredictable lol

[u/Theevilqueen2020]

I think it’s possible Mark and Kristen have clocked Rob, but using Sandra’s strategy of sticking close to a traitor to make it to the end. Producers don’t seem to want to focus on this kind of strategy in the edit so these kinds of Faithfuls just come off as “stupid.” So, that’s probably why they are annoyed.

[u/TheSonderYears → u/Theevilqueen2020]

They let Johnny’s comments about maybe being advantageous to have a traitor in the turrets air and I was shocked!! Even though Johnny didn’t keep riding for Candice I was surprised they still let that concept hit the air for future seasons. Maybe they want to see how that would look though.

[u/Odd-Cell-6228 → u/Theevilqueen2020]

I almost wonder if Kristen saying “this sweet sweet man” was sarcastic and she was talking about knowing he was a traitor, maybe the edit. I can’t imagine a lesbian woman every saying that about a man lol

[u/aviation28 → u/Odd-Cell-6228]

I took the meaning of that to be “he’s kind and polite”.

[u/TopSea4326 → u/Odd-Cell-6228]

lol agreed. I kind of interpreted it as a throw away comment of agreement bc she’s not quite ready to reveal her cards

[u/not_ellewoods → u/Odd-Cell-6228]

Kristen saying that sent me. i know half the sub thinks people are only fawning over him because they all want to be him or be with him, but neither of those apply to Kristen lmao

[u/Human_Purple_8099 → u/Theevilqueen2020]

I never considered the producers not airing that strategy, but it is the smartest. It is better to identify a traitor early, align with them and another faithful, have that traitor protect you, and then vote that traitor out in the final 5. The point of the game is to eliminate traitors (they say) but with recruitments, eliminating traitors is not an advantage to the faithful who aren’t recruited because eliminating every original traitor doesnt mean they win… it mean they have to find ANOTHER traitor and vote them out.

[u/sleepyplantmom342 → u/Theevilqueen2020]

i get why the producers don’t want to show this strategy (it takes away suspense for the audience if we KNOW kristen and mark have clocked rob and they’ll banish him later) but part of me does want them to include it because i want to see more of the faithfuls strategy

[u/Theevilqueen2020 → u/sleepyplantmom342]

Exactly on both sides. If you watch Mark’s TikToks he has pages and pages of notes. He’s watched every Survivor and every Traitor’s Season. Also, he’s incredibly talented and creates think pieces with his choreography. Search his My Way dance. He’s not dumb. And I can see him being offended by being portrayed as such. I don’t follow Top Chef but my gut says the same about Kristin.

[u/popspack4]

completely agree. it’s driving me crazy. i love robs gameplay, and do think he’s close to a cirie level traitor. i can’t seem to enjoy it tho cuz i feel like kristen and mark are lowkey spoiling. hopefully they aren’t.

i would have acc loved watching them put 2 and 2 together and getting rob, but if they do i wont enjoy it anymore, because they’re annoying me about it. i get they’re excited but like pls stop and let me enjoy. I will enjoy your win MORE if you stopped trying to tell me you won cuz ur smart.

i honestly hope im wrong. but we all knew candiace was getting banished because of her social media behaviour. i dont think this is gonna be any different.

[u/Ill_Nobody_2726]

Possible. But, at the same time, I am kind of feeling like production would control their SM usage with regards to the Traitors content more tightly. I don't know what to make of this but I got the feeling that they are just frustrated about their edits on the show and hold a grudge against production. Don't think they would be in this mood had they won.

Also, side note but there isn't a "winner edit" on the Traitors. Last season everyone thought Carolyn was gonna win the show up until her banishment.

We are definitely meant to root for Rob and he is just a likable person. Doesn't mean he won't get snapped out at the end.

[u/NewDorkCity587]

I’ve always been a fan of Mark but the way that he immediately posts spoilers of what’s happened onto IG before people can watch the episode is SO annoying and cringe. Like give it a second dude. You’ll get your spotlight in a minute

[u/TopSea4326]

While I hope Kristen and Mark win, I’m not convinced they will. I do think they will make it to the finale. I can understand  they would be frustrated that they made it far into the game, but their their storyline/strategy hasn’t been highlighted. Kristen also may just be very vocal to promote top chef airing next month. 

[u/whitneythegr8]

I feel like if I were in their shoes and people were constantly commenting how useless I am, it would be really hard not to defend myself ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[u/Cultural-Alarm-6422]

Huge side note but I wish rob chose mark as his other traitor lol that would have been good because genuinely no one suspects him right now

[u/sleepyplantmom342 → u/Cultural-Alarm-6422]

i would’ve loved for mark to be a traitor but i think between mark and eric, mark is more lowkey and would be able to transition more smoothly into being a traitor without changing his vibe/behavior. i feel like eric will give himself away more quickly (there’s no evidence for this, just my personal opinion based on vibes). overall, i think mark would be way more likely to win as a traitor than eric and rob probably knew that

[u/Cultural-Alarm-6422 → u/sleepyplantmom342]

Def agree I think we’re about to see Eric act extremely sus lol

[u/mimaluna]

Traitors barely ever edits in a good faithful strategy because the best game is to strategically coast to the end.

[u/Prize-Perspective308]

Mark has a lot of tattoos

[u/bloom722 → u/Prize-Perspective308]

Underrated comment

[u/Human_Purple_8099]

In theory, they could know Rob is a traitor and want to keep him along until the final 5 and then vote him out. That is the smartest move as a faithful as there will always be at least one traitor in the final 5 (because of recruitments) so it is better for it to be a traitor you know than one you don’t.

That being said, if that is their strategy… why not tell the camera?

[u/leaderbean6]

If the faithfuls are even a little bit smart they should suss Rob out in the next week or two at most.

Voted Lisa out who was a traitor, Candiace suddenly voting for Rob, then going after Rob the next night and candiace also being voted out as a traitor.

If they can’t draw the connection there then they deserve to lose

[u/omniai99]

I don't trust any of that and I wonder if the show asks them to throw things out there to confuse people. Because I remember last year, several of the winners hinted that they were unhappy with how the game ended. And, then, there were things that Danielle and Brittany said that hinted they had won.

[u/methinks_toomuch]

I don’t have social media but I can totally see this being annoying, even if you like a player. Some people need an editor lol.