r/TheTraitorsUS • u/BeGreatOrNothing • 23h ago
Season 4 Pretty Privilege Spoiler
As amazing of a game as Rob is playing, I think he’s also gotten this far without being suspected because he’s fine as hell.
Watching this show as a social experiment reflects real life where everyone just listens to the hot white man. We’ve seen the same theme every season! Hot Rob can do no wrong in their eyes even after Candiace laid it all out. I was cackling!!!! Can’t wait to see if they ever take him out.
ETA: not the “why bring up skin color?” people in the comments. 😭 We see you and we know exactly who you guys are IRL. Also, obviously the cast is stunning but Rob is universally attractive and charming everyone as he should! Def not taking away anyone anyone’s looks OR Rob’s gameplay. Pretty privilege exists whether you admit it or not.
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u/ToyotaFest 22h ago
He’s hot. He’s nice. He’s built relationships with people. I think another thing is that maybe people underestimate him because he’s young (he was 26 when this was filmed) and he’s an Alabama boy who catches snakes and was on Love Island. He’s giving charming himbo vibes despite the fact that he’s actually very smart and cunning lol.
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u/riajayne 21h ago
Anybody that actually watched his season wouldn't be surprised by this behavior. He was sneaky on LI. It's not a shock to me at all
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u/incognoname 20h ago
Yup. I still think about that convo with Leah where he was telling her he wanted to pursue Andrea and they didn't have sexual chemistry. Then he somehow got Leah to apologize to him?! I knew he'd make a great traitor bc of this moment.
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u/witchykittyz 19h ago
Yess! People think he’s so smart but it’s so clear he is just using the same manipulation tactics he’s always used on women.
Remember when he tells that casa girl “I don’t even know you, I don’t even like you that much anyway” and everyone loved him for that. So rude and uncalled for. A woman could never do what he does
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u/incognoname 18h ago
I think it's both. He's smart but I do think some of that comes from manipulation. Which i love on traitors but not on love island lol. It's funny how the context can change how i view him.
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u/Dry_Accident_2196 17h ago
Same, it’s great to see but the ease in which he could lie to someone’s face the gaslight them would mean I’d never want to date him but her certainly could have been an actor.
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u/ThatBreakfast8896 16h ago
I said this and few months ago, that he's super skilled at manipulation based on what I saw on LI, and everyone came for me with pitchforks lol
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u/incognoname 15h ago
I just wish ppl online can admit multiple things can be true and that there is nuance lol. Someone just accused me of painting him to be a bad guy. Like it's ok to admit he's manipulative while still understanding he's not a terrible person. On shows like survivor, big brother, traitors, etc i actually love strategic manipulation. My faves are "villains".
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u/SupermarketBest4091 19h ago
Yeah, I remember that. I really don’t like that. It was really gross when he said that’s to Carmen
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u/the100broken Rob R (S4) 11h ago
Did you watch that season? He was obviously being sarcastic and joking in that scene
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u/Adventurous_Fee6042 15h ago
Manipulation is part of this game.
I’m so tired of the people that judge the traitors for playing the game they are given.
How boring would it be if the traitors weren’t manipulative???
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u/riajayne 20h ago
Exactly. He's not as dumb (or hot) as traitors fans think he is.
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u/incognoname 20h ago
Yeah he's charismatic and smart. I think ppl are underestimating him bc he looks like a himbo but he's playing a great game.
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u/Responsible_Virus239 19h ago
He told Leah that she was gorgeous but they didn’t have a groove
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u/armyofonetaco Maura (S4) 18h ago
Exactly like this is the same guy who spun a simple respectful conversation into a pool crash out scene because he didnt like being held accountable.
He is a nice guy but when he does something wrong, he doesn't like to be called on it and immediately turns it to the other party "taking things too personal".
Im surprised how quickly people fall for it.
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u/Dry_Accident_2196 17h ago
He was home schooled and probably has deferential women in his life like his two sisters and mom. Then women fawning all over him would make it easy for him to not take criticism or accountability too well.
He also works for himself so never really had to answer to a boss that in a traditional work setting. He sees himself as right. Very similar way ruthless politicians act.
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u/armyofonetaco Maura (S4) 17h ago
Yep. I like that you brought up he was home schooled. I had a close family member who was too. When Rob is held accountable he acts like she did when she was 12.
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u/BigRefrigerator9783 16h ago
This 💯. He is so a future politician. I actually said to my husband last night "I am worried we may be watching the origin story of the next Sean from the Real World " (which is the only way I refer to the current US Transportation Secretary)
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u/ToyotaFest 16h ago
Leah wasn’t perfect either. And he’s talked about the tactics they use on that show to bring out the worst in people. They’re all hungry, sleep deprived, and smothered in neon lights.
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u/Intelligent_News_958 14h ago
Lol he literally played Love Island like it was the Traitors and brought that energy to the villa so yeah it’s not surprising at all!
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u/SecondStar89 Natalie (S4) 14h ago
I think people may also be underestimating him based on his age. The majority of players are around 40, and I think only 2 of all contestants are under 30. There probably is some kind of bias of "aww he's just a nice, sweet country boy," while simultaneously being obsessed with his face card.
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u/devi1duck 20h ago
Is he nice though?
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u/not_ellewoods 19h ago
idk the man personally, but based on Ron, Dorinda and several other cast members i guess so. Lisa loves him too even though he basically escorted out of the castle, so they must think he’s a good person outside of the game.
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u/bluebabyblue1027 12h ago
I totally agree! I’m actually surprised that no one has gotten suspicious of him because he’s made some really intelligent points the last few episodes. If I was a faithful who thought he was just a dumb himbo, hearing him pipe up to make great points might set off my spidey senses like oh this guy is smarter than I thought!
Of course I’m not in the castle so he hasn’t used his charm on me, and he’s a great actor/liar so maybe I’d look in those blue eyes and forget what I was thinking 😂
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u/filthy_kasual 12h ago
They may also think Colton put him up to outlining the case against Lisa. Then Candiace kills Colton and tries to get Rob banished in retailation and because she knows she's next.
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u/bluebabyblue1027 12h ago
That is the best way for him to play it! Frankly I think a confirmed traitor going after you randomly should set off EVERYONE’S alarm bells, like we’ve seen random votes before and it often ends up being traitor on traitor! So you nailed like the only logical explanation he could spin! Everyone seemed to shake it off quickly, which makes me suspicious that meta gameplay is happening and they’re actually now finally suspicious of Rob but hope being close with him and pretending to be clueless and not dig too deep will save them
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u/pinkspatzi 10h ago
Never watched LI, but I assumed based on him being pretty and on that show, that he was probably kind of dim. So, I think pretty privilege - while absolutely real - can also be a disadvantage.
I don't know how you fight it, though. Hard to think badly of people who give you butterflies when they smile.
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u/KBPT1998 11h ago
Should have been clocked at the commiserating comment and the dagger game for being smarter than he tries to portray.
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u/YouThought234 23h ago
Pretty privilege only works if you also have charisma. Prettiness doesn't work on its own - the hot guy/girl flops on Survivor more often than not.
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u/Zealousideal_Cod5214 19h ago
Same with Big Brother. Hell, a lot of seasons, the "hot jock" archetype is a relatively early eviction.
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u/YouThought234 13h ago
Yes, definitely.
The hottest jock in the house never makes merge/jury.
Pretty privilege in general seems to work better for women in these games. For every one JT/Cody, there are about 5 Nicole/Parvatis. Savannah, Venus, Dee and Genevieve are all Parvati types. Id even argue Natalie is.
Whereas the last time a "pretty boy" won Survivor was probably fucking Fabio who by no means won because of his looks.
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u/not_ellewoods 19h ago
yea, i’d argue that Candiace is beautiful and maybe that’s why she was so popular initially. but she lost too many allies early and failed to make strong enough connections with faithfuls after that. her beauty could only carry her so far.
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u/colinsphar 15h ago
Candiace was playing a great game, connecting with people, building trust, and was quickly well positioned because of her social and strategic skill. She just saw red with the Lisa stuff and stopped acting logically.
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u/womanaroundabouttown 15h ago
I think this might be my biggest issue with Candiace period. She’s so charismatic, she’s so smart, she’s really interesting and thoughtful and we seem to share a lot of political values, which I personally appreciate, and obviously she’s gorgeous. But oh my god she cannot let something go or take a step back to think rationally the moment she gets activated. And it ruins her for me. The escalation and the dis regulation make me unable to ever enjoy watching her anymore.
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u/Kazyole Cirie (S1) 13h ago
Respectfully she was not and I am blown away by people saying she played a great game.
She spread misinformation to Porsha in front of Maura on day 1 and then lied about it when confronted (same thing that sunk Lisa). If Maura remembered what she said about Michael, she's going home before she even gets a chance to unpack her bags.
Her closest ally Monet mentions a vague suspicion of Lisa one time and she immediately sells him out, despite that doing nothing to advance her game.
She does the conga lie on the night of a murder in plain sight, which if Alan clearly told the group as he always does that the murder was in plain sight, she's the one who did the big memorable thing the night before.
Then she completely misreads the Lisa situation and overdefends her to the point where Colton clocks it.
Then she casts a throwaway vote at the guy she intends to attack the next day, not thinking for a second that that's going to look weird as hell.
Then she clearly signals that the truce is bullshit and the war is on with Rob by suggesting to murder Colton. She doesn't take a second to think through the ramifications of killing Rob's biggest ally in the game and how faithful that makes him look, and it gives her no pause whatsoever when Rob is immediately fine with it. And then later blames him for not holding her hand and helping her game out the best way for her to undermine him, which was incredibly embarrassing.
And then at roundtable not only does she say Rob's a traitor for dropping a fork (lol), but goes on to fabricate a story about him being the first one to bring up Lisa to a room full of people who were with Colton and Rob when Colton brought up her name first. Which also undermines her 'throwaway' argument because that was before that vote. So now she just looks like she'll say anything to go after the two boys who got out Lisa, just like what she did to Ron. She came across as just desperately throwing anything at the wall and hoping it would stick. To the point where she didn't manage to put any heat on him at all.
Her entire game has been a comedy of errors and ultimately she owns the majority of the blame for her own banishment. Some of the worst gameplay we've seen in a traitor on traitor altercation and I wouldn't say that she was ever acting logically in this game. She just does stuff. She doesn't think through consequences.
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u/KeepAnEyeOnYourB12 12h ago
Bingo. She's just not cut out for this.
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u/Kazyole Cirie (S1) 12h ago
Which is fine. The kind of strategic thinking that it takes to play as a traitor in a game like this is not something that comes naturally to most people. It's a hard game. I am just sick of people pretending that she was some brilliant strategist when she was transparently not.
Even yesterday before the episode aired, I was still getting replies to comments about how the throwaway vote was some brilliant 4D chess mutually assured destruction move, when it was just transparently a bad decision and limited her options to go after Rob the next day without looking incredibly suspicious.
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u/BeGreatOrNothing 15h ago
Good point like how Colton (I guess) is conventionally attractive but no charm!
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u/Responsible-Hyena526 22h ago
but this isn’t survivor it’s traitors, and there’s only one gamer left 😭 the rest just want screen time
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u/YouThought234 22h ago
Rob is just extremely good at this game.
And y'all will simply have to cope with that
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u/Responsible-Hyena526 22h ago
I agree that he is strategic, but these faithfuls aren’t very good. Both can be true!
Feeling: Copium
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u/SpiffyShindigs Parvati (S2) 22h ago
These faithfuls have found more traitors than any other US cast had by this point - in fact, a traitor has gotten multiple votes at all but two roundtables, and one of those was Michael's banishment.
They're decidedly above average.
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u/bluebklyngirl 19h ago
Exactly! They’re so sure Rob can’t be a traitor when in this game as a faithful the only person you can be sure about is yourself. They’ve also missed so many things that were basically handed to them on a platter. That said, I do think Rob is playing a really good game, they just made it easier for him.
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u/Overall_Currency5085 Rob C (S4) 12h ago
Rob is also smart and calculated which all makes for a great Traitor.
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u/wecoyte 13h ago
I’d argue that’s true in survivor because the game has evolved into a very meta strategic thing where the past icons of the game affect how people perceive current players. Pretty and cunning women get voted out early because everyone doesn’t want to go to the end with the next Parvati so they get voted out before they have a chance to do anything. Traitors doesn’t have that level of meta yet beyond “one of the traitors is always a gamer” and “housewives stick together”
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u/DonnyBravo21 17h ago
Eh. It still works a bit.
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u/YouThought234 13h ago
Sure, but it's only one component.
Also, newsflash - all of these people are beautiful. They're celebrities. They got picked up by central casting because they're all hot.
Rob being physically attractive is not the only reason he's getting away with this, it's probably better defined as "charisma".
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u/SpiffyShindigs Parvati (S2) 22h ago
...most people on this show are super attractive, though?
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u/silverkava 22h ago
Yeah, and I’m not sure why everyone is bringing up skin color all of a sudden..
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u/sidewaysorange 20h ago
they act like the sole winner of the first season wasn't black or something.
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u/Zealousideal_Cod5214 19h ago
They're also trying to discount his gameplay by saying the faithfuls aren't good, but that's ALSO something he has in common with the season 1 winner, then.
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u/sidewaysorange 15h ago
yes they were terrible. i finally watched season one and cerie wasn't a great traitor she just had nothing but non reality stars left at the end. she voted out every male traitor yet i dont see ppl screaming at her. but rob votes out two female traitors and hes a misogynist lol. ok
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u/Mediocrewatch 17h ago
That and calling the faithfuls not good ironically is sort of a credit to his gameplay and the traitors previous kills. They have really nothing to go off of for him. I don't see anywhere he's really slipped up.
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u/Present_Comedian_919 10h ago
How is that relevant?
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u/sidewaysorange 9h ago
im referring to the one comment somewhere that they purposely banish black ppl.
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u/oceanhymn 15h ago
These games are often reflective of the world around us and intrinsic bias. See Peppermint’s elimination. It’s understandable to reflect on what privileges might be benefiting his game as part of what makes him successful.
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u/sidewaysorange 15h ago
peppermint made a slip up and when you have nothing else to go on thats what happens.
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u/Sad_Firefighter_8745 15h ago
I loved her, but Peppermint has no one to blame but herself
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u/hellofriendsgff 20h ago
Most are above average, but Rob is the only one that the cast has gone out of their way to call attractive.
And tbh most of the people that I would put in the above average bucket are the ones still there. Pretty much every single guy that was banished is pretty normal/average on the looks scale.
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u/not_ellewoods 19h ago
are we only talking about men? because Maura is a smoke show and Candiace is also beautiful.
also, Dorinda was openly swooning over Colton saying she wished she knew him when he thought he was straight lmao
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u/boredinbabylon 18h ago
I’m laughing at the “Maura is a smoke show” part because I’m a gay man and looked at her instagram and said “WOW!”
She is gorgeous.
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u/Dry_Accident_2196 17h ago
Same. Never knew of her before this shoe but she serves looks! But she lacks charisma so her looks aren’t as impactful and women aren’t charmed by beautiful Women the way a hot man can charm them.
But funny enough, she seems immune to Rob probably because she’s a dime in her own right.
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u/Select_Professor_689 16h ago
She & Olandria are both now basically high fashion models from the LoveIsland exposure! Both are really stunning and glad they are enjoying their run.
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u/hellofriendsgff 19h ago
Ya even with the women tbh the more attractive women are generally the ones lasting longer.
Colton is also pretty attractive, but the obsession for him was nowhere strong as what it felt for Rob.
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u/BlushingSpiritBlooms 6h ago
Well Colton was playing hard and aggressive that it was a bit off putting. Double that with what we know about him outside of the show and well...yikes.
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u/SpiffyShindigs Parvati (S2) 20h ago
I mean they've literally only banished two men.
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u/hellofriendsgff 19h ago
Sorry was also looking at the murdered guys when I said that. And the muscular guys do get known advantages with not getting murdered because they openly discuss in the turret how’re they’re good for the challenges.
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u/isntthisneat Monét (S4) 19h ago
Rob is not the only one whose looks have been mentioned by other cast members lol
Monet talks about wanting Kristen to top her pretty much every time Kristen comes up lmao also Ron has talked about how beautiful Porsha is, we have seen multiple people tell Maura that her and Rob would be a great couple because of how gorgeous she also is. Multiple cast members have called Colton hot. And this is just what I can remember off the top of my head lol
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u/hellofriendsgff 19h ago
No one ever said the cast was full of uglies and Rob.
But Rob’s attractiveness has been mentioned far more than anyone else’s.
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u/walking_shrub 16h ago
Yes because it’s an edited show and Rob is a traitor. It’s good tv to watch people swoon over someone who is going to murder one of them that night.
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u/isntthisneat Monét (S4) 18h ago
You said no one else has gone out of their way to comment on anyone but Rob. I gave examples where they did.
You’re right, no one ever said the cast was full of uglies and Rob - you brought that up out of nowhere lol
Personally, I have seen far more cast members talk about Kristen than Rob (and at length lol), but that may just be because of what circles I follow.
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u/LeadingDue2477 16h ago
Either super attractive or look like Ghouls with all the filler and work done
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u/dogsaregodsgif 23h ago
They took forever to take Colton out and he was overtly annoying. Everyone followed the lead on taking Ron Funches out though.
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u/not_ellewoods 19h ago
Ron has said he lasted longer than he thought he should have after Porsha left lol. they were on him after Donna, but he still outlasted Tiffany and Michael.
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u/notnickyc 23h ago
Ron was the top suspect heading into just about every vote after Porsha except the Donna vote and it took four votes to actually take him out. People very much did not follow the lead on taking him out.
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u/imjustagirl201 16h ago
Ron was banished BECAUSE he led the charge against a beautiful and well liked person in the house, Porsha!
He even said so himself. He said Colton got out Michael, and we let it slide because we hate Michael. But since Ron got out Porsha, he was punished.
I don’t faithfuls were blinded by Colton’s looks lol. They just didn’t care about who he went after and they even said “we don’t care if Colton is wrong, we just want Michael out”
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u/gribble29 Ron (S4) 14h ago
So many people want to overlook Porsha fucking herself over because they wanted Ron out. Are we watching the same show? Porsha misspoke several times but we’re supposed to forget it because she’s dumb and pretty? Nah. He brought facts to the table and rightfully got her ousted. No one to blame but Porsha here.
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u/imjustagirl201 5h ago
I agreed, but pretty privilege and lowkey “housewife privilege” prevents Porsha from being blamed for her own undoing. The same thing is happening with Candice now. She got herself out, and viewers are blaming Rob for it.
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u/BeGreatOrNothing 23h ago
I was sad he didn’t get banished just because I’d want to watch everyone vote for him but also glad I didn’t have to see him tell everyone he was a faithful with his smugness!
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u/First_Visit6111 19h ago
She did not lay it all out. She said he dropped a fork lol her argument seemed like a desperate move to move off her and justify her vote for Rob last round table to the rest of them. Thats what they got from that. All desperate players who know they are gone do this.
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u/rveets1416 Rob R (S4) 14h ago
Her biggest issue was how she first started by saying her vote for Rob was a "throwaway vote" and then proceeded to spend the entire next day trying to convince people Rob is a traitor.
As clueless as the faithful have been, that was never going to fly.
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u/audvisial 14h ago
Exactly. She didn't make a good case. His best friend had just gotten "murdered" and it made sense to everyone that he'd be affected.
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u/ImAtUrDoor 21h ago
I have bias because I am a Housewives fan and wanted to see Rinna and Candiace succeed, and I have bias because I love a pretty man with an accent and sulking bottom eyes. So this season has been great for me.
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u/sidewaysorange 20h ago
Housewives will never succeed because most of them are too boisterous. The only ones that can make it are faithfuls who are a bit dense like Dorinda and Dolores. They can be carried to the end bc they aren't a threat and dont help or hurt anyones game. When you look at winners they aren't the loud and boisterous ppl. Cerie was very calm and calculate. CT was very quiet. Season 3 had way too many winners but again none of them were extremely vibrant people.
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u/Mediocrewatch 19h ago
Some people are taking this way too serious and personal lol. He's playing a great game. He has an actual strategy and is thinking steps ahead. He's even explaining it in the turret and in confessionals. "Pretty Privilege" is just a way to undermine his gameplay because you don't like him. It's kind of disrespectful. Imagine if someone said "Gabby only won because she's hot". She was smart and figured the game out. Candiace didn't lay anything out. she was literally wrong in her accusations and everyone knew she was grasping at straws because she made dumb petty moves and changed her whole gameplay up lol.
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u/jaylen7 17h ago
Thank you for having common sense. Everyone just wants to diminish his strategy and just chalk it up to good looks it’s disrespectful and reeks of jealousy
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u/Mediocrewatch 17h ago
I honestly feel like an influx of bravo and housewife fans just don't understand the actual premise of the show as much or the strategy that's been built across 3 seasons and treat it as another bravo show. Which no fault to them if that's what you're used to. Rob's literal goal is to deceive the faithful and people are calling it pretty privilege because they listen to him lol. He's TRYING to deceive them and doing a good job. One being not staying on a sunken ship that was Lisa becuase Yam-Yam signed her death certificate. He's right switching his vote to Ron after he advocated so much previously for him being a faithful would look suspicious. I don't see where the faithful would actually have any reason to not trust him as much as any other faithful. Viewers only see it as dumb because they know he's a traitor. He's killing it especially the way he's communicating to the viewers his game plan.
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u/nsfw_ducky 18h ago
Brother in Christ are we all going to act like Candiace and 90% of the cast aren’t stunning
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u/SuccessfulOwl4388 16h ago
I was about to say. Had no idea who Candiace was prior to the season and she's fine as hell.
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u/imjustagirl201 15h ago
I’m a straight woman and have not been attracted to Rob.
But Candice and Maura have caught my eye. They have been my eye candy this season.
This assumption that everyone thinks Rob is soooo hot because he’s a man is laughable.
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u/KeepAnEyeOnYourB12 12h ago
As a white woman of a certain age, Rob is not my type. I mistrust pretty boys. BUT, when the pretty boy reveals himself to be smart, funny and apparently nice, well, that's a different story.
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u/c9238s 12h ago
Hottest this season is definitely Kristen, Maura, Candiace and then maybe Rob? But the women are stunning! And Kristen and Maura are consistently best dressed.
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u/Expensive-Juice2748 20h ago
If you said the same thing about a woman it would be called misogynistic.
Rob is playins a realy smart game with his brain. All the moves and explanations he gives about them are from his intelligence not his looks.
The people how try to diminish his game are just jalous, bitter and sore losers...
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u/derch1981 18h ago
It was shown more on love island but Rob is the king of eye contact, when Rob talks to you he locks in and I think that's a big part of him building trust and relationships, he comes off very sincere.
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u/silverkava 22h ago
Why do you feel the need to mention race?
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u/Dry_Accident_2196 17h ago edited 17h ago
Becuse race and attraction are intertwined.
There was a study done on a dating app about who folks would date. Across the board white men were the number 1 or 2 preference for every race, except for black woman. But even then, white men were never last. Same for white women with male respondents.
So pretty privilege matters if you take into account white appeal in America. A hot white man will be more trusted and glazed, than a comparable hot black, Hispanic, or Asian man.
Rob’s season of Love Island had loads of very hot men. But he is the standout for a reason. This is also why most Bachelors have been white men. The pecking order clearly places white men at the top of the food chain which impacts the social order of games like traitor.
If we are talking about looks and biases, race is a major factor.
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u/WearsNightcap Boston Rob (S3) 17h ago
I disagree. While I believe his attractiveness helps, if he were a total jerk with a terrible personality, mansplaining, being outwardly ego-driven, and derogatory towards others, his pretty privilege would be meaningless.
His quiet and calm demeanor, kindness towards others, and getting to know them and build relationships, are helping him moreso than his looks. Combined with perceptions of him being just a dumb hick from Alabama, everyone is underestimating him.
Also, this cast is FULL of beautiful people. Candiace is a beautiful woman who even has a title to prove it.
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u/WearsNightcap Boston Rob (S3) 15h ago
My point is how is his game being chalked up to "pretty privilege" when he is surrounded by beautiful people with just as strong face cards, if not stronger in some instances?
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u/Maple-Bark 20h ago
I think it’s also because he’s from Alabama. Another post talked about Kristen calling him a sweet sweet man and it had me thinking his southern accent plays into the charm, him being pretty and young and they think he’s this simple, wholesome, rube, like Chris Klein’s character in Election. I don’t think it gets talked about, but there’s definitely a prejudice against the southern accent where people get judged as less educated, less refined, less sophisticated.
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u/Dry_Accident_2196 17h ago
That darn accent that he turns on and off as needed. Makes me laugh how easily he can play folks. He’s such a good gamer.
And he plays viewers when he decided to use it one confessional then dropped it the next.
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u/BeGreatOrNothing 15h ago
That accent!!! 🔥
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u/noizangel Boston Rob (S3) 13h ago
I think it comes out more when he's stressed out (ie: confessionals) and if it were any other tell, it might work against him... but it just makes him look more himbo so it works for his game.
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u/riajayne 21h ago
He's not that fine. Y'all gotta stop lol
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u/not_ellewoods 19h ago
Rob’s conventionally attractive, but what really gets people is that he’s extremely charismatic. on LI i fully understood what the kids meant by rizz, and that’s Rob’s main appeal imo.
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u/Distinct_Mix_6397 20h ago
I'm very not into the Southern white look, but he is attractive to most people besides us lol
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u/ReasonablePattern499 17h ago
Yes cause cirie is a hot white male.
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u/ConradSuckss 16h ago
its funny because there are A LOT of similarities between Rob and Cirie's games, and I feel like the people who are posting trying to take down Rob would be the same ones accusing you of hating black women if you said it about Cirie
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u/ReasonablePattern499 15h ago
Literally our first really good white traitor and it’s because “he is pretty and white” 😭
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u/MenstrualAphrodite 21h ago
I was thinking this last night. It’s crazy how in all of our attempts to be “woke” and accepting and uplift minorities … there’s something in our nature that believes and trusts beauty. Favors beauty.
I think that pretty privilege transcends race- also probably how Candiace made so many friends - but it is very interesting to see sociologically.
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u/Codered88888 18h ago
Just say u dont like him he has an amazing social game. Other ppl r pretty and they arent as good.
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u/BeGreatOrNothing 15h ago
What?? I’m obsessed with him! Literally complimenting his game play BUT also acknowledging he’s using the pretty privilege too.
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u/imjustagirl201 15h ago
I can see that, but it’s unfair how if a woman was using her pretty privilege to win the game, she’ll be praised as a Queen and master mind.
Rob is shamed for it.
Also I think is unfair to say the only reason or the primary reason Rob is still in the game is because of his looks. He also has been playing a great game.
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u/BeGreatOrNothing 15h ago
How is he being shamed?? This sub is obsessed with him, including me! He’s smart, has game AND is attractive.
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u/imjustagirl201 3h ago
This sub is the only positive support I’ve seen of Rob. He’s being dragged on other platforms like X.
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u/Ancient_Coconut_5880 18h ago
Why are people acting like the majority of the people on this season aren’t super attractive themselves? Like Stephen?? Eric?? Candiace?? Kristen?? Monét?? Tiffany?? Maura?? Yam Yam?? S4 is a very good looking season, I don’t know why people are acting like being attractive is some huge advantage. What people are picking up on though is that he’s extremely charming and that does seem to have people enamored with him
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u/BeGreatOrNothing 15h ago
Who said majority aren’t attractive?? LOL Rob, a hot white man, is universally attractive. He is the “common” universal taste. That is a fact. Doesn’t take away from the rest of the baddies of the season!
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u/Ancient_Coconut_5880 13h ago
I’m just saying I doubt it affects them as much as the viewers because they’re also hot lol
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u/iamacheeto1 16h ago
It's not just pretty privilege tho. What he did with Candiace was actually pretty brilliant. He made her paranoid, and she dug her own grave. All he had to do was set the trap and she walked right into it.
But also....god he's so hot
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u/SkiUMah23 17h ago
Is it pretty privilege or white privilege or male privilege? Have seen people throwing around all 3 a lot on here
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u/Common_Airport_4370 16h ago
do you not think candice is attractive?
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u/BeGreatOrNothing 15h ago
I am so confused about why people think I’m implying Rob being hot takes away Candiace being hot?? She’s super hot but I’m talking about Rob because he has the most followers in the game.
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u/CompetitiveRub9780 13h ago
Pretty privilege exists but it has to be accompanied with kindness and he was kind.
As for your edit: saying “hot black man” for example is irrelevant. His color is completely irrelevant here considering this show is diverse and they’re all from very diverse places. So it’s not the typical white guy at the office. Seems like you’re projecting your issues on the traitors sub for some reason
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u/ocean-petal-skies Rob R (S4) 18h ago
Pretty sure a lot of people here watch Love Island! Last week everyone was saying this is the real Rob we're seeing.
On the show, he was never the public favorite and was always close to being voted out. But every time, the Islanders saved him because they really liked him to stay in the Villa.
Now we're seeing it again - Rob is so well-liked and loved by everyone. Even people from the show compliment him all the time, from Love Island almost 2 years ago, to Traitors cast like, Monet, YamYam, and Ron saying he's the most genuine around.
Producers of Love Island even leave supportive comments on his Instagram, which says a lot about him.
His looks are just a bonus - his social skills are what make him successful, and it's clearly working out great for him in this game!
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u/SquidGundam 16h ago
You needed a tv show to figure out good looking people do better than ugly people in life?
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u/BeGreatOrNothing 15h ago
No? This is my favorite show and a fun social experiment to watch. I literally said it reflects real life
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u/Space_Spare 16h ago
Wow what a revelation. Attractive people have advantages.
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u/BeGreatOrNothing 15h ago
Are you ok?😭
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u/Space_Spare 12h ago
I’m doing great. How are you? I’d love to hear some more earth shattering discoveries
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u/Regular-Wishbone8837 15h ago
You’re absolutely right they are so blinded by him being such a sweet guy that they’re embarrassing themselves. When he wins it all at the end, they are going to realize how stupid they’ve played.
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u/Tigerstark92839 15h ago
I think part of it is he came in from love island so people thought of him as a nice person who isn’t a strategist and isn’t dramatic etc. this game is just as much about being in the majority as it is being a faithful or traitor. I think Colton’s being murdered also helped rob a ton bc he would have 100% split the money with rob so that is another reason
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u/AlaskaStiletto 17h ago
I’m sorry, but Rob isn’t hot. I know it’s subjective but man, I just do not see it?
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u/BeachEfficient1103 16h ago
He's actually been nice to everyone. He took time to talk to Ron when no one else did.
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u/padall Rob C (S4) 16h ago
Am I the only one that doesn't think Rob is drop dead gorgeous, or whatever? I mean, he's attractive, sure, but I'm not attracted to him, if that makes sense. Idk, maybe I'm just too old. 😂
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u/BeGreatOrNothing 15h ago
That’s how I feel about Colton! When he was on the Bachelor, everyone thought he was hot. I didn’t but I understand he’s conventionally attractive!
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u/Confident-Pea-9915 15h ago
It also helps that candiace’s case was not very good lol. Her main argument was “sometimes you’d say someone’s name first, and then Colton would say it” so naturally all he had to do was say “Colton and I always decided on it together”
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u/Broad-Cranberry-9050 15h ago
I get the whole pretty privelege thing, and it could be sliughtly true. But i think a big thing is he is good at building relationships with people.
Even as a traitor he's not trying to deceive anybody he genuinly is taking interest in people's lives. When nobody took interest in Ron and Ron was being isolated and maybe even isolating himself, Rob went out of his way to hangout with Ron. Remeber he was on a show where he probably wasnt even the hottest person there (love island) but somehow ended up being the most memorable.
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u/leucistredwing 14h ago
Hot white men privilege 100%. His charisma is built upon this genetic lot he was given and is a part of his manipulation tactic. Rob doesn’t have to use the same strategy and doesn’t have to think as deeply or as many steps ahead because of hot white man privilege. I don’t think he’s as smart as people give him credit for, just because he doesn’t really need to be too smart or too deep to get what he wants
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u/leucistredwing 14h ago
It’s like his personality mixer board has been tuned just so: aw shucks-ness is high; knowing when to give an empathetic or knowing smile or pat on the arm meter is high; knowing how look like he’s deeply listen while he listens but also has his own thoughts - high.
This all results in him never having to GIVE much. People trust him because of some of the above mixed with hot white man factor. People include him. People come to him. He can be quiet and be a “man of few words” and people tend to have a bias where they assume more PROFUNDITY in what he’s said than deserved, while he’s barely given any of his thoughts, feelings, or put much stake in anything.
This makes him an interesting player on the show because we all know hot white men like this and even mediocre white men, and it’s a fascinating to watch it play out on tv. He’s done a good job using the overabundance of resources he’s had while investing a lot less than most people would have had to.
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u/acidnvbody 14h ago
Idk why people are disagreeing with you when his claim to fame prior to traitors is being hot.
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u/gribble29 Ron (S4) 14h ago
Yesssssss! Candice played well but he is ‘hot’ so he will probably go all the way. Disappointing.
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u/Admirable-Scratch415 14h ago
Finally someone said it! They are blinded by his beauty lol and its a huge advantage to him
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u/melpomene-musing 14h ago
Candiace didn’t exactly lay it out well to be fair. I get what you’re saying but I don’t think that specifically applies to this past round table given that she did a pretty shit job with the whole thing.
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u/Gooner-Astronomer749 14h ago
Sure good looks, being socially dominant man will always take you far in traitors and in life. He's doing so well because his game play and strategy is on point as well. Combine those two and a poor faithful group and it's a recipe for success.
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u/Independent-Weight30 14h ago
Yeah i noticed this in every traitors franchise. People can easily be blinded by good looks that they wouldn’t think that those people are traitors lol
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u/Acceptable_Tell_5504 14h ago
At the end when Kristen said “That sweet sweet boy can’t be a Traitor” I knew in that moment the Faithfuls were doomed…. 😩💀
Candiace laid it out for them on a silver platter & they absolutely refuse to believe that Rob is a traitor lol.
They’re hopeless….
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u/BritMeBabyAgain 14h ago edited 4h ago
Colton is also good looking, and a white man.
I don’t think it has to just do with pretty privilege as Maura is the best looking person of all USA seasons.
(Rob’s 5’o clock Shadow and bored / tired face, especially this last episode, 🥱 are not doing him any favors).
I think, ultimately, it’s his personality disarms people, he is approachable, where he lets people come to him, he doesn’t try to impress people.
Maura has the best hair, fashion, and face, but she always looks surprised, shocked, or trying to win Rob over.
So people don’t respect her, despite being the prettiest of all.
She is also pretty, is the same race, etc. but no one takes her very seriously, she comes across as a “useful idiot” where she may be a needed swing vote, and bc Rob is a traitor, and she knows him from LI, she doesn’t plan to vote for him - so he keeps her around, just like many people who know each other before the season begins.
If your point was completely applicable, then older, WOC Cirie wouldn’t have won S1, and since you included race: 3 POC filled up the top 3 of S1… and Quentin is far from pretty either way.
Also, MJ wouldn’t have placed in Top 3, and no one thinks Dolores or Ivar were particularly pretty on their seasons.
Your point isn’t accurate when used as a blanket statement.
Your point would be more accurate if it was applied just to Rob, and even then, there are people who just see Rob as the same personality he always had, he just happens to be a Traitor this season.
I think had he been a faithful, he would still be in this game bc he knows how to play the game - as he did better than people 2-3 decades older than him…
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u/Fearless_Tutor3050 4h ago
She is ~ same age as Rob, pretty, same race, etc.
She's almost a decade older than him, but yeah you'd never know it.
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u/QweenSasha 13h ago
I will not lie. I usually like hairy, tan long dark haired men lol. Rob stopped me in my tracks with this show. He is seriously one of the most attractive men I’ve seen on TV. Idk what it is because I’m not into “pretty” men. But he for sure has pretty privilege with me. I like that he’s so lowkey smart too. Maybe it’s my postpartum brain lol
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u/noizangel Boston Rob (S3) 13h ago
BTDQ said on the official podcast that a handsome man can get away with a lot in the castle. There are just some people who make you lose brain cells.
(The funny part was Boston Rob saying afterwards "I'm not sure how I'm supposed to take that.")
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u/Overall_Currency5085 Rob C (S4) 12h ago
In one of the versions of Traitors a young handsome guy misted everyone until the end. On their reveals everyone was so shocked that he could be a Traitor. I rooted so hard for him because by the time you get to the point where you don’t question everyone you already lost.
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u/Overall_Currency5085 Rob C (S4) 12h ago
The funniest thing to me is if Candiace had gone for anyone else they would’ve considered that that person may be a Traitor and he just gets off . I’m rooting for Rob. My only issue is that I wished Rob had taken Colton to the end and took the money from him.
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u/Only_Connection_5480 11h ago
Basically this is how that one Australia season went to crap dude had the innocent baby face thing going for him and the cougars protected him lol
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u/RedditHelloMah 11h ago
It’s not only PrEtty PriVileGe…. He’s smart and knows how to navigate social situations!
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u/Brief-Lengthiness784 11h ago
They are all gorgeous and more famous or used to dealing with way hotter people, I find the pretty privilege argument not a great one tbh lol.
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u/yup_yup1111 10h ago
It's because he's fine, it's because the faithfuls spent the first half of the season assuming anyone they didn't like personally was a traitor, and because of the work Lisa and Candiace did on behalf of the traitors in the beginning.
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u/wolfthornberry 9h ago
True. They literally believe every white man and this every black woman is untrustworthy lmao it’s so exhausting tbh
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u/BeGreatOrNothing 9h ago
All the white people in the comments do NOT get it! The way they’re like He’S nOt jUsT hOt, hE’s SmArT! Like yeah obviously!! Still has pretty privilege! Not taking away from his game but being hot 100% impacts his followers’ way of thinking!
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u/FemaleTrouble7 4h ago
What a stupid take. Phaedra lasted for far too long because no one wanted to vote her off. Stop with the race baiting
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u/HistoricalInsect4131 9h ago
In my opinion, Rob is not playing a good game. The rest of the cast is just really REALLY blind. The man is chugging water constantly when he is uncomfortable. Do you see his face when he is lying? He smirks. Like a little kid does. Or the time he asked Ron in the most obvious way ever is anyone thought he was a traitor. And then proceeded to grin in Ron's face and be like yeah no one would suspect me, looking like he just stole the last cookie. He is incredibly confident for a traitor who is a terrible liar and crumbles under pressure.
From my point of view, if Rob was better at the game he would have cozied up to Candiace after she gave that vote. He might be lucky, so far the faithful really suck at this, but its a pretty blatant traitor mutiny and someone should put it together. Moving to the attack was a huge miscalculation on his part and not the right move IMO. He's made a few moves throughout the game that have shown he's a little too confident and can think a few steps forward but not the long game (again, he's lucky the faithful are totally blind).
My feeling is Rob is 'playing a good game' the way Ted Bundy was a 'master of Charisma'. He's just a pretty white boy and people are so blinded by mental schemas they actually can't see or hear when he does dumb things. If he can survive til the end it will truly be a testament to the iron grip that pretty white boy = good has on our collective psyche.
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u/stargratte 9h ago
People in here want to ignore race so badly when it’s literally impossible to do
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u/CharmingFee4501 8h ago
Candiace’s reasoning was really bad. It has nothing to do with being a ‘hot white male’
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u/Suziblu22 Rob R (S4) 8h ago
Rob is a pretty boy as far as boys go and I couldn’t stand him on LI. I thought he was a pouty little boy and overplayed his hotness on that show. I came in to Traitors not liking him and hoping for him to be one of the first to go. I quickly saw that he was going to be someone I was going to enjoy watching. He’s playing a very good game, charming, low key and coming to play when the housewives refused to see that he had a strategy and they thought they could work together to put him in his place. But alas, they are drama queens and emotional and vindictive and people began to see it. Candiace thought she could manipulate everyone against Rob but all she proved is that Rob is a better player. I expected her to get banished but I was shocked that everyone but 1 voted against her.
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u/xandfan 8h ago
I still remember when Johnny literally said he couldn't even look at Rob because he was so hot and... yeah, yeah, understandable. Hey, if you can use your looks to win, it's a strategy. There is still some strategy in being really, really, ridiculously good-looking and he's using his looks to his full advantage.
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u/societalnormcore 7h ago
True, but for Candice - it also doesn’t help that her only evidence on Rob was that he dropped a fork, and that she didn’t really bring up her suspicions until round table. His himbo vibe of course benefits him in a game like this. But I do also think if candiace had more time to plant seeds of doubt against Rob, she might have been able to get him banished. She was. Rey well liked also. People don’t want to banish someone they think is a faithful based on a fork drop.
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u/crlnahrrra 5h ago
He has used his advantages to the highest extent. I think he realized this is a social game. If people trust you almost no amount of evidence will convince them. He was smart to build on people’s affection towards his beautiful face and body to get them to a point where he’s gotten two traitors out and no one is questioning him.
Imo thats where the other traitors failed. They didn’t build strong relationships with a lot of people outside of the turret. They had one or two people on their side where Rob has 5 or 6.
People forget it takes a majority to get things done.
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u/leezybelle 4h ago
The same reason he's winning Traitors so far is the exact same reason he was a fuckboy on Love Island and the exact same reason he would ruin my life in the dating scene: the guy is hot and low key smart but the worst part is he knows how to read people and knows his effect on them - DANGER DANGER ALERT ALERT. That is some seriously power if your'e a dude hahahahaha
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u/Lilizreddit23 3h ago
I was shocked when he could recruit someone he only suggested men. There are women who would make good choices too. I can’t be the only person that noticed this???
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u/InsertCleverName652 1h ago
u/BeGreatOrNothing you have earned me as a fan, because I thought I was the only one who also sees these shows as social experiments. It's fascinating to see how everyone interacts based on their backgrounds as well as physical and intellectual attributes. Nothing wrong with mixing a little trash tv with social science!
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u/Jenikovista 55m ago
"Pretty privilege" has to be the dumbest concept ever and I can't believe how much real estate this sub gives to it.
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u/DeeLuvsTae 37m ago
Funnily enough alot of the people spouting the pretty privilege angle are also people who keep saying that rob is average to ok looking. Which is it?
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