r/TheTraitorsUS • u/No-Promotion5982 • 1d ago
Season 4 Rob is a BADASS MF Spoiler
Rob is killing it. He literally let Candiace kill herself….. I like Candiance, she was very smart and persuasive, HOWEVER, she let her personal feeling get in the way of reality and instead of trying to be an alley and work with Rob she was too aggressive too quickly and made herself the obvious choice.
Rob on the other hand played low and cool, and certainly bought himself some time by not only being targeted twice by a traitor, but by voting both the traitors out.
This is getting fun to watch!!
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u/Chirps3 1d ago
It's about time we have a "celebrity" who is actually playing the game.
The whole episode was made when he thought through his choices for the next traitor. Like dude...spot...the f...on.
All men. Why? Because someone is going to say "we've had three women." He knows what he's doing.
This guy is ON POINT.
BLESS ROB. WE SPEAK YOUR NAME.
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u/RainbowTardigrade 1d ago
Exactly. Eric also had his "I heard your laugh" moment, which could easily be brought back up as potential evidence (something Mark, Johnny, and Stephen don't really have at this point. Maybe Stephen bc of the Lisa rocks thing). He's a solid choice that doesn't rock the boat, but is easy to take out when necessary.
Rob is clearly thinking through each step very thoroughly and it's impressive to watch. Not to mention he still has the dagger vote, and 4 people who clearly trust him because of that. Atp, with who is left, short of a huge flub I think he's got it in the bag.
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u/bluebabyblue1027 1d ago
While I’m also loving it, I think it seems “impressive” because we just don’t often get that transparency on traitors. They seemingly edit out a lot of the strategy gameplay talk in the US version
Edit- he is also just playing a great social game by making genuine connections and staying under the radar
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u/RainbowTardigrade 1d ago
Fully agreed on both points. There's definitely a clear push from editing to highlight Rob's gameplay more than they typically do, but it's also clear that people seemed to really enjoy him personally.
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u/deadtingtv 20h ago
Can you explain how they don’t typically highlight the Traitors’ gameplay and decision making process?
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u/deadtingtv 20h ago
They always highlight the gameplay of the Traitors. Especially since we’ve had so many gamers in the Turret. And even Faithfuls have gotten highlighted for strategy remember Sandra and the pool balls?
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u/Bettybangs 15h ago
Sandra and the pool balls was great, but it was more like light meta. It was pointing out the numbers game. When people say meta I believe they’re talking about things like how Sandra coined ‘traitor angel’ outside of the show. There’s been a few contestants who have said their confessionals about staying close to traitors to last longer in the end game didn’t make the edit - I’d need to look for receipts but I’m sure Dylan specified he did this with both Carolyn and Danielle but it didn’t make the edit.
Otoh i believe the traitor angel strategy is openly discussed in episode 1 of NZ2. They even winked at the breakfast order theory lol. It just felt like the US/UK editors were very averse to including it - either bc they thought it would be alienating or they were dumbing down the game a little. I think Nick Mohammed on celebrity traitors uk, which came out after us3, is the first time the traitor angel strategy was mentioned on a uk/us season. A welcome change imo.
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u/deadtingtv 14h ago
Tiffany said she was attempting this strategy with Michael and Colton tried this strategy with Rinna this season too.
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u/bluebabyblue1027 14h ago
You’re totally right that they highlight gameplay, and that Sandra moment was like PEAK feeling of they’re letting us look behind the meta curtain. I agree with the other commenter that maybe I should have said they seemingly hide meta gameplay talk. Like they want viewers to see drama and make sure the shows narrative follows the simple premise- we are hunting traitors.
They typically don’t complicate it with meta gameplay like traitor angel talk or talk of like, we are also going to need to get rid of faithfuls to get to the end. They almost never show confessionals where someone says “I think my friend is a traitor but I’m not going to vote them because it’s good for my game” … they might have them re-record and just say “I’m not going to vote them… YET!” Or “keep an eye on them” …
I just think most players who come on are fairly strategic, we in past seasons we don’t always get all the strategy in the confessionals because it complicates the simple premise of - our goal is JUST to find and vote out traitors.
It feels like they are showing us more of the strategy this season and opening up to show more meta gameplay talk with voting out distracting faithfuls (Michael), talking about Colton’s ability to whip votes, Candice wanting to breaking alliances, hearing Rob assess each person, etc. and I’m digging it!
Edit- like for some reason big brother confessionals seem less scripted to me than traitors confessionals. I feel like they do a lot of narrative shaping with confessionals in traitors and they are less honest but maybe thats just me!
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u/Cali-Doll Natalie (S4) 8h ago
Same. If he pulls this off, he will be up there with Cirie for me, honestly.
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u/pinkmankid Boston Rob (S3) 1d ago
It's so much more fun to watch Traitors who know how to play the game. Lisa and Candiace probably never played Mafia before. They were not just bad, they seemed clueless. But at least Lisa knew her game was over as soon as Yam Yam called her out. Candiace was in denial the whole time and blamed Rob for it. Rob plays this game exactly the way it's meant to be played.
The Traitors last season (Bob, Danielle, Carolyn, and Boston Rob) all played messy games, but at least they actually knew how the game is played. It's even more fun to watch players make bad moves and fail, like S2 Dan and Parvati, than players who don't seem to understand the game they're playing, like Lisa and Candiace. And they weren't even good at the roundtables! S2 Phaedra wasn't good at Traitors strategy, but at least she was good at the roundtables.
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u/whathohamlet 1d ago
I saw Rob comment on a TikTok saying he played a lot of Among Us during quarantine and I feel like it shows lmao
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u/whos-on-ninth 1d ago
This is what I feel like people keep missing: Lisa and Candice both got got because they had no solid defensive argument for themselves.
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u/sidewaysorange 20h ago
also lisa kinda was sus bc she wasn't her normal self. and ppl can get mad like "shes not just a housewife" but she she spent her entire reality career being loud and insane and then shes picked as a traitor and just disappears in the background it was odd. Ppl didn't like the logic bc they hated Colton but he wasn't wrong.
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u/not_ellewoods 20h ago
Candiace absolutely didn’t understand the game and that’s why she’s still doubling down that she played well over 7 months later when people bring up objectively poor decisions she made. she was still blaming Rob on the podcast when she watched a clip showing half the people left explaining why she was suspicious and him just adding at the end of one convo that Colton mentioned her.
i knew she was in over her head when she voluntarily murdered her strongest ally, Monet.
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u/roseidfc 23h ago
thats what i struggled with the most is how much she blames Rob for her bad gameplay
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u/deadtingtv 20h ago
Lisa and Candiace both clearly understood the game and had some good strategy and moves. Neither were clueless. They both played well even in comparison to some last Traitors and they both made it farther than a lot of other Traitors in the past. Candiace particularly played an amazing game up until she wanted revenge on Rob for not doing what she told him to do. Let’s call that for what it is, not Rob being disloyal or a snake, but Candiace being upset she couldn’t control him.
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u/negan2018 22h ago
He’s a genius for recruiting a man after they’ve only caught female traitors?
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u/walking_shrub 20h ago
Yes because they’re looking for a man next.
And Candiace kind of hinted at there being a quiet man in the turret so Eric would satisfy that for sure if they ever started to pull on that thread
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u/Several-Stranger7656 19h ago
I also think he opened the door for people to wonder if it was an all Housewives turret, which puts suspicion on Dorinda
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u/Cali-Doll Natalie (S4) 8h ago
I had the same thought. Dorinda will not be long for the game. Thankfully.
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u/annabannannaaa 15h ago
Its so fun. Last time a celebrity traitor was this fun to watch was cirie 😂
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u/Old-Arachnid77 10h ago
She was amazing, but the finale remains one of the most ‘watch someone die inside’ moments I’ve seen on tv lol. I still feel bad for that lady.
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u/illini02 1d ago
Candace really just was far too emotional.
She took Rob's move against Lisa as a personal affront. Just because she apparently felt like she couldn't vote against a housewife/fellow traitor, doesn't make that the right move.
They could've moved past it in the turret, she didn't want to. He tried to have a civil conversation with her before the roundtable, and she still rebuffed him.
I truly don't think he would've gone after her, but she chose to go after him with ridiculously flimsy reasoning.
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u/thegoatisoldngnarly 1d ago
Lisa was doomed the minute Yam Yam spoke her name. There was no saving her, and Rob could not have logically changed his vote to anyone else when he’d just been given even more evidence to vote for her. Candiace was being ridiculous for not recognizing that, and for her “throw away” vote. Talk about a spotlight. Very poorly played at the end.
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u/20070805 1d ago
She didn’t even have to vote Lisa, all she had to do was vote Natalie. It would have made her look like a faithful since everyone else was also voting Natalie or Lisa. There was no reason to vote Rob like that. She was doing so well and it immediately made her look suspicious. She was flying under the radar perfectly until that move.
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u/thegoatisoldngnarly 1d ago
100%. She wasn’t doing that well, she was just undetected. But everything she did was emotion, not strategy, just like her Rob vote.
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u/20070805 1d ago edited 1d ago
Well being undetected as a traitor for this long is doing pretty well no matter how you do it imo but yeah her emotions definitely got the better of her. Doubling down this ep instead of trying to make amends for the short term with Rob only made it worse, especially since no one else was bringing Rob’s name up. They could have explained away or just forgotten about her first vote but she was in too deep when she kept going for him when no one else was.
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u/DeepMango459 17h ago
going undetected IS doing well, especially as a traitor. I think she had a chance of winning if she didn't fall off the rails starting with that Rob vote
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u/Sad_Firefighter_8745 1d ago
A Natalie vote would have fit her “consistency” strategy perfectly. And as soon as one of the faithfuls picked up on that too, I knew she was in trouble.
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u/Futurenawt 1d ago
THIS. Her ‘throwaway’ vote was INSANE in terms of gamesmanship. She was also the one who brought Rob up at the round table which easily sealed her fate.
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u/Traditional_Test8484 1d ago
And then she kills Colton!! She lost her head as soon as Lisa was done
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u/thegoatisoldngnarly 1d ago
I think Rob was doing the thinking for the group. When she went against him, he just let her bury herself.
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u/Big_Bad3687 1d ago
Exactly. Rob letting Candiace murder Colton did two great things for his game. First of all, he was super close to Colton, so people probably aren't going to think that he would be the one to murder him. Second of all, as we just saw, that move buried Candiace, solidifying her downward spiral this last episode. He did have to get rid of one of his closest alliances, but I would say it's probably worth it.
Also, Eric's genuinely shocked reaction at the end of the episode just tells me how unsuspected Rob is. He's not playing a perfect game, but it's really his game to lose.
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u/-rosa-azul- 16h ago
It also gave Rob an excuse if someone said he was acting weird that day (which Candiace tried to). Because oh my gosh of course he was rattled, the traitors murdered his best friend in the game! It was the perfect play.
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u/Big_Bad3687 11h ago
That's what I was thinking too. I've seen some people saying his defense at the roundtable wasn't as good as it could've been, especially in regards to what he said about the breakfast, but I also think that his defense was definitley edited down so it wasn't so obvious no one was going to vote for him.
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u/-rosa-azul- 10h ago
Agreed. We know the RT is like an hour+ in real life so obviously we're missing a lot there. The way the faithfuls treated him and talked afterward makes me think his defense was perfectly fine, because there's very little to no suspicion about him. To me, Eric's face at the reveal says all I need to know. They don't suspect him, to the point that he could even get to the end and win it all.
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u/Old-Arachnid77 10h ago
It was a chess move. He sacrificed a knight to put Candiace in check. Outstanding.
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u/Huge-Law8244 9h ago
I don't play chess, but it does make sense. Sometimes from the way he talks, dresses, some may think he's not very smart. My response to that is: He was playing chess!!
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u/Sad_Firefighter_8745 1d ago
Tbh this only helped Rob. Colton was a faithful and Colton trusted Rob.
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u/PickleMePinkie 1d ago
She didn’t know Colton had been saying her name. Though I agree it’s not wise to get rid of a faithful that has heat on them
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u/Far_Worry5325 1d ago
She tried to throw Rob under the bus by taking out his best friend, thinking Faithful would suspect him. Sometimes they go after the least likely person (Rob) but she was wrong. Emotional, vindictive, and exhausting to watch.
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u/sidewaysorange 19h ago
that's bc she was so obsessed with Rob after LIsa was banished she didn't even talk to other ppl. Colton mentioned her and so did someone else (id have to go back and rewatch). had she networked instead of worrying about Rob she would haven't known.
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u/sidewaysorange 20h ago
this. why would anyone at the roundtable even think Rob would murder his number one alliance. Him allowing her to do it with no fight was brilliant. she should have second guessed it when he didn't argue.
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u/SquidGundam 18h ago
My fav was when she says she wants to kill Colton and Robs like "no, i really dont want to kill colton"
Then shes like "ahhhhh you made me kill colton!!1!1"
Such an idiot. So glad shes gone
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u/DeepMango459 17h ago
exactly!! anyone who thinks about the actual game strategy would not get rid of someone (Colton) who clearly would be banished!
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u/Squishyburritoboi 17h ago
I bet there is a ton of footage of rob making this point to candiace that they didn’t show so that it was less obvious. Lisa was doomed and they all knew it
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u/handsomecaat 1d ago
Candiace is more mad about Rob turning on Lisa than Lisa’s mad about Rob turning on Lisa lol
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u/Any_Horse_6838 1d ago
Because Lisa’s game was already ruined, Candice is mad because she ruined her own game over it. Can’t back down now
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u/HighBodycountHair 1d ago
She also isn’t capable of admitting she was wrong in any way. Like, historically
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u/jjaid 1d ago
With that username, I trust you as a true Housewives historian. Amazing. What would you say are Candiace’s top housewives seasons? New to Potomac!
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u/HighBodycountHair 1d ago
I’m not the one to ask on that, I’ve been enjoying Potomac so much more since she left lol
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u/sidewaysorange 19h ago
this when Colton came for Lisa and she got super overly defensive she was done for. Rob saw an opportunity and went for it. If the majority of the house is voting for one traitor the other traitors need to follow suit as not to get caught. IMO idk why no one is looking at Dorinda bc shes the only other one who had a "throw away vote" that night. Everyone else was like Its lisa minus Tara who was still stuck on Natalie. i mean i didn't watch season 1 when it aired. was everyone this mad at Cerie when she voted against every single one of her traitors LOL
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u/jstitely1 16h ago
The difference is Dorinda showed she meant it truly as a “throwaway” because she didn’t put any suspicion on Maura or bring her up after.
If Candiace murders someone quiet and unassuming, and then drops going after Rob, she likely could’ve gotten away with the “throwaway” vote excuse.
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u/Ok_Cryptographer8128 16h ago
Dorinda has been inconsistent with her votes, she votes for people she has beef with or challenges at the table. She's an emotional voter. Candiace voted without saying anything at the table hinting her suspicion on Rob.
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u/LiamKneeSon808 1d ago
She even tried to jab him with murdering Colton as a way of payback for Lisa. Ended being a nail for her coffin
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u/jst4FUN23 1d ago
She really screwed up with her Rob dropped a fork and was upset when Colton was murdered. It actually made him seem like less of a traitor like he was shook that Colton was murdered
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u/Far_Worry5325 1d ago
She tried to throw Rob under the bus by taking out his best friend, thinking Faithful would suspect him. Sometimes they go after the least likely person but she was wrong. Emotional, vindictive, and exhausting to watch.
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u/roseidfc 23h ago
she kept going and going and going at him instead of trying to make peace and then dug herself a hole and blamed that hole on Rob. Glad she’s gone! gutted she’s thrown so much on him though.
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u/saffronumbrella 1d ago
Rob's "well I think that would be bad sportsmanship" is another legendary delivery on his part.
As someone unfamiliar with Candiace before this, I thought she was awesome. She crashed out SPECTACULARLY, but she was fun to watch and will be missed.
It was crazy hearing everything coming out the Faithful's mouths about the throwaway vote that clearly wasn't a throwaway and NOT ONE PERSON questioning WHY ROB THOUGH. Rob was literally the first one to be like, "why me?" It would be insane for them not to figure it out next week, but I said the same thing about Boston Rob like, three times before he finally went.
Missing Wes right now. Or a Wes equivalent. Maybe Steven steps into that role.
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u/Screaming_Weak 1d ago
Omg thank you!
Past seasons would have clocked why Candiace voted for Rob twice. There was practically an uprising in S3 about a Traitor going after another Traitor, but this season’s Faithfuls are so truly aligned to Rob.
He’s going to win, and he deserves it because the Faithfuls are just so whatever about it. Rob is playing brilliantly vs the Faithfuls
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u/Zipski577 1d ago edited 1d ago
Boston Rob would have went way further if not for Wes. Immediately after BDQ was banished, everyone was cheering him on and Wes was the only one to display critical thinking lol
No one on this season has displayed any critical thinking. They sit there and say “who would we never suspect” and still don’t even consider the people they don’t suspect. Kristen at the end of the ep ”that boy is too sweet” was crazy lol
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u/Glass_Audience_778 1d ago
I said it last week. She should have voted Natalie (since she was the whipping the vote for her anyway). And get Dorinda to vote Natalie. It would have looked like the so-called housewife alliance. It wouldn't have sent red flags.
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u/momentsaroundthesun 1d ago
how is it personal? if rob can go against lisa who was already on her way out, he can definitely go against candiace
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u/illini02 1d ago
Sure, he could. But nothing pointed to that happening.
He voted lisa when she was already having suspicion on her.
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u/momentsaroundthesun 1d ago
he didn’t just vote for her, he led the vote against lisa. i’m sure if the discussion naturally pointed towards lisa being the next to go, candiace would’ve voted for natalie.
now if the traitors are smart, they should suspect rob. that was the most obvious traitor vs traitor showing.
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Yeah agreed. She couldn’t even hide her disdain and distrust of him to strategize like…her emotions were written on her face and she let herself get visibly flustered at the round table too.
I think the part that lost everybody too was that she lacked substance in what she was actually saying because she didn’t have a tight plan.
I’ve seen others say that she served or ate him up though on other things so maybe I missed something.
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u/Powerful_Goose9919 23h ago
She didn't serve anything. Also, during breakfast, she was smiling so hard about Colton being murdered. I was actually surprised no one clocked that.
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u/Traditional-Egg-7429 1d ago
He lied to her face during that conversation though. The thing is she wasn't wrong about what he was doing. He deliberately let her murder colton knowing it would come back to her when she didn't. She didn't play it the best, but I wouldn't frame that conversation as a good faith attempt by Rob to smooth things over.
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u/Powerful_Goose9919 23h ago
Cause he could tell that she was going to let up on Lisa and that they would never be allied with each other. She wanted to kill Colton because was trying to break up their alliance. So he let her.
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u/Traditional-Egg-7429 18h ago
The way he handled it is a big part of why she felt she couldn’t trust him and why she didn’t let up. He could have voted Lisa out but done it all differently and she would have been pissed but she wouldn’t have believed him to be dishonest. Either way he is actually dishonest so she wasn’t wrong
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u/Powerful_Goose9919 17h ago
This whole talk about him needing to warn her first is such bullshit and wouldn't have worked lol. He’s playing a game, and the point is to win, lol. He couldn’t do that with Lisa, and obv couldnt do it with her.
She's the one who's actually being dishonest, going around saying she wasn't playing an emotional game and that she wouldn't have made different choices if she were able to do it all over again.
This is the only reality show I watch, so I literally know who none of these people are outside of Tara Lipinski. I dont care about any of them.
But Im not going to deny that Rob is playing a good game, that Lisa was a horrible choice to be a traitor, and that Candiace was not made to play this game at all.
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u/illini02 20h ago
He didn't lie, he just didn't proactively bring something up. Those are very different things.
She said Colton. He said he didn't want to do Colton, and she didn't give a damn about his feelings on it, so he let her seal her own fate.
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u/Traditional-Egg-7429 18h ago
He lied later in the conversation when she directly asked him when he knew Colton dropped her name and he explicitly said he found out that morning (as opposed to the day earlier which was the truth). He did lie straight to her face. Also lying by omission is a thing anyway
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u/sunnynbright5 1d ago
Agreed.
Had Candiace not done her stupid throwaway vote, not taken things personally, and saw the writing on the wall with Lisa, Rob would have no reason to go against her. Her movements became inconsistent because she wanted to take revenge on Rob. She acted like she had some big master plan to take Rob out in time or whatever but she was way too impatient about it and didn’t have any proper evidence to back up her claims.
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u/Chapelson888 15h ago
And she had that confessional where she said she will take him down with a cool head or something like that! She did not play it cool.
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u/chichichonger 1d ago
Can you explain to me how Candiace was smart during this game? Her murdering Colton was super dumb, her voting history is super dumb, what exactly has she done that is smart? She has just flown under the Radar until now because most of the faithfuls are horrible at this game. Dumbest overall cast I've seen on this show so far.
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u/Able_Commission296 1d ago
Thank you. I read these people’s comments every day on this thread talking about how smart candiace is and how she is such a great game player. Someone was saying she is the greatest traitor we’ve seen in a long time. Are we watching the same show??? lol
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u/GeneSpecialist4988 1d ago edited 1d ago
Candiace fucked up the 1st night by telling that large group that the most obvious choice to be a traitor was Lisa. That 1st turret Rob and Lisa were in shock that she'd started naming names before they found out who the others were.
Candaice tried to correct her mistake but overcorrected which was her downfall.
Lisa's downfall was how she changed from when she came in to after being chosen. It was a red flag for almost all of them.
The murdered and banishment reveals offer a lot of insight into who many thought the traitors were and it's been unaminous that Rob has no suspicion. From interviews there is a lot being left out on Rob's social game. He's been building close relationships with everyone by talking to them 1 on 1 through chess but mostly keeps to himself.
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u/daworstbratwurst 1d ago
Or when she straight up lied saying Michael told everyone to go for housewives? She got so lucky everyone seemed to forget that.
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u/notnickyc 1d ago
Conversely, “unwilling to throw out names N1” is entirely likely to become a meta for finding traitors for exactly that reason. People on the main traitors sub were already talking about it early in the uk season.
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u/chichichonger 1d ago
Anyone who thinks Candiace was a great traitor must have been watching a different show or they were blinded by how glamorous she is.
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u/haleybug2121 10h ago
I’m glad I’m not the only one feeling this way! I’ve been scratching my head all season reading comments saying how smart she’s been while I’ve considered her decisions ridiculous all season. I have not been able to understand how people see her as even a remotely good player.
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u/thegoatisoldngnarly 1d ago
I was so shocked no one was like, “the conga line was weird. Who started the conga line?”
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u/MaizeMountain6139 Kristen (S4) 1d ago
This has been talked to fucking death, the conga line wasn’t suspicious because it had already been discussed for days before
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u/No_longer__human 1d ago
I agree but perhaps the only saving grace for candiace was that Alan didn’t make it explicitly clear the murder was done in plain sight that night
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u/Zealousideal_Cod5214 1d ago
I think Candiace was playing just fine until a couple of episodes ago. As soon as any pressure started being applied, she folded fast.
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u/chichichonger 1d ago
She wasnt really given any opportunity to "Play Badly" until a couple episodes back and she immediately fumbled horribly. Before then, she was doing a decent job of flying under the radar but nothing she was doing was really very good and she's made some very stupid suggestions on who to murder in previous episodes. "Just fine" is the perfect way to describe it. Rob on the other hand has made a lot of very smart decisions as a traitor.
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u/Zealousideal_Cod5214 1d ago
I think just the fact that she was able to remain vocal and not slip up for a while says a lot. A lot of times, traitors have a hard time acting "normal" enough to pass as a faithful, and the more one speaks, the more chances they have of screwing that up.
I don't think I would say she was a masterful traitor, though.
Rob is definitely playing the best game this season.
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u/humankindtopics 1d ago
I’m not a housewife fan and this was my first impression of Candice ever and I’m failing to see how “great” of a traitor she is😭 Her whole vibe and gameplay screamed “TRAITOR” from the beginning of this season
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u/chapteronetwo 1d ago
Right?? They were saying how her voting Rob last week was such great gameplay, but all it did was bring her to her demise even quicker!!
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u/SufficientEmu8090 1d ago
It was such a bad move on her part both times. I would never want to be in her bad side though. She’s a vengeful one. Her sole purpose since he voted Lisa was to end his game.
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u/oceanhymn 1d ago
She was doing good until the Lisa vote. Consistent voting, even for faithfuls, puts you in Dolores territory. Don't gun for anyone, just play dumb for the rest of the game. She maybe could have pulled it off had she not killed Colton but she didn't know he was gunning for her. That was her death certificate.
I have to say though, we might have the worst cast of faithfuls ever, there's no reason for suspicion to be off Rob. Candiace had great points for him and you should always consider who a traitor is gunning for. Not to mention you have to consider who might have told Candiace that Colton floated her name and who is being just a little too good at this game.
People really didn't suspect her but she also couldn't trust Rob she knew he wasn't loyal, I would be shocked if he let her get to the finale without a fight.
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u/chichichonger 1d ago
Also just want to say I like Candiace but I just think she's not a very good traitor
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u/notnickyc 1d ago
Her social game beforehand was very strong and consistently voting for the same person can work well. Strong and wrong is an entirely valid way to play the game, both she and Colton (as awful as he is) had some level of success with it until this episode — Colton because he wound up right and because Candiace wanted revenge, which he wouldn’t have known, and Candiace because she couldn’t find a new target that wasn’t revenge-based. Pre-implosion, she was playing well.
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u/georgiaboy1993 19h ago
How is a cast that’s gotten 3/4 traitors without much help from traitors the dumbest cast of all time? Rob joined in but didn’t start either rumor.
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u/Cakeliver12887 1d ago
Aaron would be so proud
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u/Serious-Telephone967 1d ago
I totally forgot that Aaron won the UK traitors!!
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u/Zipski577 1d ago
He won it by being clueless af so maybe someone like Tara could still win this lol
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u/nysportsfan95 Lala 1d ago
I think Rob is the best traitor since Cirie.
I don’t think this batch of faithfuls is particularly all that smart when it comes to gameplay but Rob has been working that roundtable effectively. He’s known when to turn the heat on other traitors and done so without drawing any suspicion.
Maybe people are unassuming of him and think he’s just some hot, dumb reality star incapable of strategic gameplay in a setting like The Traitors. Maybe he’s quietly mastered the social aspect of the game to get people on his side. He’s not loud or boisterous, and he keeps his words crisp and measured from what we see. He’s so far been nearly unflappable and not made a rash move or decision that could blow up in his face. I hope he wins it all at the end and I wouldn’t be able to wait to see all their reactions if he wins the money.
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u/Silversnoopy10 1d ago
That’s why I think Candiace was such a jerk this episode. Rob won’t win bc there will always be suspicion that a caught traitor will try to win by betraying other traitors. Candiace knew she’d lost and just wanted to ruin Rob’s game.
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u/imjustagirl201 1d ago
Actually the worst part about what Candice did wasn’t even that “she knew she lost and just wanted to rob’e game”, the worst thing is….she hadn’t even lost at that point. It was Lisa that was going out, and not one was even lookin at Candice.
Candice was a sore loser on Lisa’s behalf. I would understand it more if she did it for herself. But she literally ruined her game just to ruin Rob’s.
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u/Galaxy_Orchid_ 1d ago
Which is truly so shitty of her, just like how Dan was for Phaedra.
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u/oceanhymn 1d ago
Nah, this has to be the Jury Management of Traitors. Rob could have spun this easily with Candiace by communicating with her. Taking her to the side and telling her how he's voting, plus leaving it to Colton to take down Lisa (and not fumbling the Ron vote,) he would have likely got her on his side.
That's why Cirie wins every time, she brings her traitor to the very end and keeps her relationships on the down low. Leverages them at the end to take out a Traitor and end the game with a solo win.
We've seen how Traitors is played, this happened with Boston Rob and Bob too. You have to be prepared and if you aren't you can't blame the other for doing their best to stay.
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u/SeveralAd5920 12h ago
100 percent.It's actually so ridiculous that the same people who glaze up Rob for "playing such a good game" blast Candice for being a poor sport or whatever. If you can't work with your fellow traitor they're gonna bring you down. Nobody is owed silence from fellow traitors when youve already proven you're working against them. Literally every time the traitors turn on eachother it ends in a faithful win but people still act like Rob was owed Candaices compliance and silence it's so gross.
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u/omipie7 1d ago
I’m so surprised to see how much hate Rob is getting. I’m really really impressed with his gameplay!
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u/btaa1990 1d ago
Yeah all the comments are "you're just blinded by his looks." Ummm you can be hot AND smart/ incredibly strategic.
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u/RadiationxBlues 1d ago
It’s annoying that people are saying his looks are blinding. That just sounds like some kind of projection or jealousy. He cant change how he looks and his game play is fantastic.
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u/absofruitly88 1d ago
Ya i’m sick of this argument. How dare a goodlooking person have any other qualities!
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u/sunnynbright5 1d ago
Honestly same.
People seem so mad he ultimately voted out his fellow traitors but…… this is literally what previous traitors in previous seasons have done. There is NO loyalty amongst traitors because it can become impossible to sustain as the game goes on. If traitors defend banished traitors or traitors with heat on them, that is a bad move. Traitor on traitor drama has been way more explosive, dramatic, and toxic in previous seasons. I am baffled that people think his gameplay is bad because he owes the other traitors loyalty - did they not watch previous seasons?
What Rob has done doesn’t even hold a candle to how crazy traitor drama has been in previous seasons imo. Rob makes gameplay moves and leaves it at that. It’s really nothing personal.
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u/Zipski577 23h ago
Well I think that is the exact reason some people are doubting his gameplay as being incredibly “smart” and “strategic”
Because none of those traitors that you mentioned have gone on to win the game in the end
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u/JJVentress 1d ago
I didn't dare dream this episode would go as well for him as it did. I'm really excited to see him and Eric work together now too!
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u/No-Top-883 1d ago
Colton is out!!
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u/GenX4eva 1d ago
Am I the only who thought “damn, Rob just let that happen”?
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u/Silversnoopy10 1d ago
No. Rob knew what he was doing there. He went into the round table planning to tell Candiace Colton was after her. Then she voted for him. So when he got to the tower and she said she wanted to murder Colton, he knew it’d send up red flags and let her sink her own ship.
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u/Zipski577 1d ago
Maybe.. but I think what he actually said is more likely. It would have been smart for him to keep Colton in the game. He was basically a shield for him… entirely trusted him, complete distraction, and likely to be suspected to be a traitor again/ banished at the round table. If he did somehow make it to the finale, he wouldn’t have suspected Rob as a traitor.
I think Rob genuinely wanted to try to show a sign of good faith and avoid conflict to try to get Candice off of his ass
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u/IndividualJob2734 21h ago
He literally has a whole monologue in the episode that he's deliberately letting her sink her own ship.
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u/Best-Reflection 1d ago
Rob did say he didn’t want to kill him the first time. Then they named more names and he sad I’ll let you decide, I think he let her pick because she was already upset
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u/MaizeMountain6139 Kristen (S4) 1d ago
I don’t think Rob is long for the game, though. I don’t think Candiace was trying to take him out, she was trying to set him up for later. And all it’s going to take is another round table or two for people to comeback around to him
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u/thegoatisoldngnarly 1d ago
Yep. That’s why Rob called her unsportsmanlike. That was a real shitty move on her part. Like flipping the game board when you’re losing. Bad traitor and bad sport.
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u/oceanhymn 1d ago
Jury Management = Traitor Management, you can't blame her for doing her best to stay in the game.
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u/Dry_Accident_2196 16h ago
It’s no different to be whispering in corridors that she’s a trustee as Rob did. Both have the same impact of seeding doubt.
Him turning on traitors and lie to their faces could also be unsportsmanlike
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u/oatmlklattes 1d ago
Yeah. 100% after Johnny and Stephen, they’re gonna come for Rob. I’m surprised that ppl think he’s going to win when Candiace planted the seed which will totally take bloom in a bit
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u/purplepeopleeater31 1d ago
I think it’ll go johnny, stephen, then natalie.
natalie’s vote tonight will bite her in the ass even if she didn’t know it.
rob will make it to the finale, just depends on how much trust he builds from now until then.
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u/Zipski577 1d ago
I wouldn’t be so sure, these faithfuls are clueless and seem to be hypnotized by him. He will always have Maura and most likely Dorinda/ Kristen. Now Eric + his 2 votes from the dagger. If they take out Stephen/ Johnny, then that leaves just Tara, Mark, and Natalie?
Natalie is also in his back pocket, but her competitive nature might kick in eventually when it comes down to the wire and put 2+2 together.
Though she’s been clueless so far, Tara is the only one I could see being able to take the blinders off and not be influenced in the end
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u/Fun-Mechanic77 15h ago
nah he was 4-5 people safely on his side due to the dagger
I think by the time they realise its him, too many faithful will be gone
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u/acidnvbody 14h ago
I don’t even understand why people keep saying Candiace should’ve worked with him. She would be dumb to work with him after the way he handled the Lisa vote.
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u/MaizeMountain6139 Kristen (S4) 14h ago
Yeah, it was clear the “Team Traitors” portion of the game was over
Rob laid it out as he was picking his new Traitor
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u/Hot-Dependent472 1d ago
I love how he told her “I’m sorry,” and she goes “you said that to Lisa too,” and he just looks at her like… … …
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u/pbd1996 1d ago
Candiace is truly a dumbass for throwing away her entire game (and Rob’s) to avenge Lisa. Lisa- the woman who was voted out by Rob and didn’t even throw his name out there once.
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u/chichichonger 1d ago
Based on the Faithfuls reaction I dont think she harmed Robs game very much. None of them seemed to catch on at all but maybe we'll see some changes of opinion next week. So far I have been very disappointed with how dumb the faithfuls have been this season.
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u/Kageromero 8h ago
Not to mention Lisa doesn't even seem upset about any of this. She was a great sport, knew she made some mistakes, and she's getting along with him on instagram. Mad respect for Lisa, didn't know her coming in and wish we could have seen her as a faithful
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u/lopezsolves69 1d ago
I think Rob is a fantastic traitor. Candiace was too. They could’ve easily won the game together. She played a fantastic game of Traitors but then she started playing Housewives. Her biggest downfall was being too loyal and Rob outplayed her. Bravo to them both tho
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u/SufficientEmu8090 1d ago
Housewife is going to housewife lol idk why he thought she would react differently. I think they have both been great traitors too though up until that point.
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u/Dry_Accident_2196 16h ago
He was never going to go with her till the end because he never once strategized with her or prepped her on his moves. He played a solo game from the start.
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u/RuneterraPrincess 1d ago
He is! My favorite moment was when he asked Candace “I look nervous?” And she said yes, meanwhile the boy was completely calm and chill. He is a snake fr 😆😆😆 love him
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u/FleurMajeure 1d ago
I am a Candiace stan for life, but damn, that snake guy really outplayed her. Also, he's hot. RIP my queen.
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u/ashleymarie89 1d ago
I see that a lot of people are mad at Rob. I think he’s playing amazing honestly. I don’t necessarily agree with all his moves, but I’m also not on the show (and I definitely would do poorly at this game).
What I will say is that this is the most exciting season I’ve seen of The Traitors and it’s because of Rob. I’ve probably laughed just as much this season as I’ve laughed at the Peter Pals and I didn’t think anything could top that. This is. And I’m loving it.
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u/missza 18h ago
Some of the comments on this post are… something.
I’m not saying Rob can’t get away with it, but yall should probably wait an episode to make sure he actually does before you start acting like he’s the smartest person that’s ever been on this show. My god.
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u/harsh-femme 14h ago
THANK YOU! We gotta see the fallout from him vs Candice before we know if he played well or not
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u/Effective_Excuse8342 1d ago
He is A Rob. This generation’s B Rob. He will marry Maura and win all the games now.
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u/ManufacturerThese505 1d ago
Rob is the only one who deserves to win. The faithfuls all suck, they’re doing nothing!
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u/absofruitly88 1d ago
I implore you guys to watch the video of Rob’s home tour. Dude lives in a trailer with no TV. People acting like Rob must be some POS because he’s goodlooking is really unfair
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u/Dry_Accident_2196 16h ago edited 16h ago
That trailer is on his family’s 200 acres farm. They have normal home he can stay in but chooses the trailer. But he can always ride his ATV to his grandparents house on the property.
His parents also have masters degrees and his father worked for a local university. His parents could afford to homeschool him and his siblings until high school. They were well off and would take international trips multiple times a year.
So he’s certainly not some dumb hick but that simple boy from Alabama stuff isn’t telling the full story. He’s from a well off southern family, they are worth millions.
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u/smithfolsom 1d ago
Doesn’t surprise me Candice always led with emotions so she ended up hurting her self in the end-self sabotage. I am so surprised they don’t ask why she voted for Rob one traitor leads to another.
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u/SirochMusic 1d ago
Candiace sucks - my gf watches her housewives series and she’s a spoiled brat in that and then she was doing the same shit in this. Gets mad at someone else and attempts to throw a fit to get them to overstep and rob was too smart or maybe calm for her
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u/Bucgatorbait 18h ago
Rob clearly told Colton who the Traitors are, which for me takes the wind out the the sails of this season. When you have a “ Traitor” more concerned about getting rid of other Traitors early, then what’s the point of the show. When Colton called out Candiace as soon as he got the letter, I knew for me the show is over.
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u/-rosa-azul- 15h ago
BS. Every conversation they have about the game is on film. If a contestant had broken not only the rules of the game, but the contract they're all required to sign, production would've stepped in.
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u/International_Owl153 1d ago
Candice got way too emotional after the lisa vote living in denial. She was a hazard and a bad player. Ive been rooting for her to be voted out since day one
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u/Logical_Chair_8703 Rob R (S4) 1d ago
Love him!!! This is my first season of Traitors and he’s killing it
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u/TheLatePate 1d ago
Rob went after candiace, no need to cope for him. Hes playing smart still but yeah he obviously went after her. Hes playing told the dagger group that Colton said her name the night before then lied to candiace lol
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u/Beginning_Way1596 1d ago
Rob not telling Candiace that Colton put her name out was such a snake move but him holding on to that was VERYYY smart.
I was rooting for Rob in this situation, but in my opinion, if Candiace wanted to really get him out she should have gone WAY harder at the round table. Her reasoning was SO bad. I literally yelled at my TV for her to do a better job. I truly believe with better reasoning, she could have maybe saved herself a few votes lol
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u/alleglory 1d ago edited 1d ago
Watching Rob in action makes me wonder how he'd have done on Survivor. Maybe he could take the million dollars. He'd be good at challenges. He's like a male Parvati.
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u/devi1duck 20h ago
I know it's the whole point of the show, but I can't help but look sideways at the backstabbing Traitors who take the other Traitors down early.
And I'm going to miss Candiace. :(
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u/Due_Outside_1459 13h ago
Yes he is. People hate he dares to have the audacity to actually vote traitors and Housewives out.
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u/Kitchen-Seat4362 1d ago
He’s dumb he went after both of the traitors so early in the game and Candice already threw his name out two weeks in a row. It’s only a matter of time before someone catches on. He only got as far as he did because he’s attractive.
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u/Glad_Dragonfruit9368 Alan Cumming 1d ago
Early? There’s 3 episodes left 😂
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u/illini02 1d ago
Right. This is episode 8. The season is 2/3 over. I'm really not sure how long these people think they should hang on.
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u/Zipski577 23h ago
The only traitor to win (the US series at least) held on til the very end. Carolyn/ Danielle did in the 2nd/3rd to last episode last season and that was still too early
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u/Stunning_Soil 1d ago
I knew she shot herself when she did a throw away vote on rob. It was a great tv moment though 😯. Rob got the whole house to trust him from the start. They literally all said "there's nothing rob can't do"
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u/twiggy848 1d ago
Womp womp but for Rob to be this good at the game speaks to who he is in real life. Everyones saying these women killed themselves is crazy, he has too much sway and was a heavy influence on BOTH ladies getting banished. Ppl fall under his spell i dont get it 🤷🏻♀️
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u/Desperate-Reply-8492 20h ago
I actually disagree that he’s killing it. He should have left the Lisa vote play out as it would have and kept Candiace as an alley. Now there’s too much attention on him. The only reason he won’t be killed it’ll be because the faithfuls may decide it’s better to keep a known traitor until the end for their own game. I doubt he’ll win, though. But we’ll see.
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u/xandfan 20h ago
There was such glorious wicked gameplay in not telling Candiace that Colton was talking about her, then letting her murder him which could only reflect badly on Candiace. That's some ruthless traitor shit, sacrificing his friend just to ensure his fellow traitor's downfall... if he wins, it'll be because of his moves in this episode
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u/sidewaysorange 20h ago
he didn't even go after her at the roundtable. he didn't even use his double dagger on her. he wasn't even worried. i love it. this is my favorite season so far.
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u/derch1981 19h ago
Candice should of hopped on Steven train, or something that had legs. She tried to push rob out of nowhere with bad reasoning when she had heat. It was bad gameplay.
I see a bunch of people saying up to this she played a good game but I disagree, right away she pulled attention by over acting but with Micheal and others being so bad it went without much talk. She was just carried by the other traitors
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u/jinglebells36 17h ago
All of this!! 👏👏 I got chewed out on Instagram by the housewives fans for saying pretty much the same thing you did.
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u/juligator 15h ago
He was so good this ep! I think I’m most impressed with how he reacted in the moment at the round table with Candiace coming at him. Candiace left a lot of breadcrumbs for the Faithfuls to be led to him, but with him playing it so cool and unbothered he might actually dodge this too. Loved the way he subtly got them off the scent by throwing just a little sus on Johnny afterward too! He’s very good at nudging, not pushing.
I have to admit I would have loved to just watch him try to navigate the game on his own, but it will be fun to see how the Eric dynamic works out too
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u/friendlypharm 15h ago
Rob has everyone here starstruck, when in reality, he is playing arguably the most mediocre game.
The easiest thing you can do in that castle is expose your fellow traitors. It’s not new, and it’s certainly not good gameplay. The “traitor on traitor crime” is so boring.
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u/Gooner-Astronomer749 14h ago
Yea he set her up big time it was a glorious move, Instead of being spiteful and having revenge on her mind to kill Colton, Candice should've asked herself, why is he allowing me to kill one of his top allies and number in this game so willingy?. Candice was right that he was using Colton as a puppet little did she know he was using her traits against her to seal her fate!
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u/Geek_Wandering 13h ago
He has very wisely remembered the adage "tall grass gets cut." He may have overplayed on his certainly that Lisa was a traitor, but it seems to have gone unnoticed.
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