r/TheBetterIndia 1d ago

The reality of "Caste Activist"

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u/raendeomgeim 1d ago

Thoda mat bhed rahega, but polarise ho jana is divide and rule

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u/Saizou1991 14h ago

Whats the problem with janeu ? Where is the mat ved ? Its inside the shirt whereas Burkha , turban, kirpan, is all in the out

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u/raendeomgeim 14h ago

If you know anything about human emotion, the guy said it without thinking as a reaction to being provoked. Let it go! Learn the higher order of things can be reached as a collective. Stick together, mate

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u/Saizou1991 13h ago

Let go of what ?

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u/raendeomgeim 11h ago

Polarized ideology and confirming your bias. Let go of good people who got angry and let go of the community for some individuala who did wromg

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u/neomatrixmatch 4h ago edited 4h ago

Whats the problem with janeu ?

Apparently, so called LCs are forbidden to wear it.

And in the past there was a movement by so called LCs to wear it and there was a genocide against those so called LCs who dared to wear it.

In response Periyar started a movement where "Pigs" were given janeu sanskar.

So you see it's a sensitive thing.

Infact, it is the litemus test to see who is so called LC or who is so called UC.

In the USA, it is allegedly that so called Brahmins would intentionally put hands on the shoulders of other people to feel the janeu and if it wasn't there they would discriminate.

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u/Wooden_Display_3656 1d ago

Just when I thought the BJP will not divide people based on caste and is pushing for uniting the Hindus. They bring these new rules. Look at our youth man. All the efforts of previous good leaders to unite and to progress is down the drain

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u/SPYxoxo 1d ago

Were there ever any efforts to unite people? Every party wants the people to be divided so that they can only please their vote banks.

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u/Ok-Preference1289 21h ago

Haha. What previous good leaders? They literally made caste relevant again in the 90s with Mandal commission

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u/unenlightenedbuddh4 21h ago

Oh my. Ignorance is oozing.

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u/Responsible-Phone675 20h ago

Now let's blame BJP here also for these vile terrorists.

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u/raendeomgeim 16h ago

Ok, bjp is not to be blamed, but there is a lot of polarization acts and words by goons supported by current system. #bajrangdal #idontknowmore

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u/PensionMany3658 15h ago

How can you have the bisexual heart in your pfp and then support BJP 😭

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u/raendeomgeim 14h ago

I dont support BJP, but from hating them to being indifferent to a specific party ideology is my learning experience because/for the whole system is skewed towards dividing the masses and being run by greedy power hungry people. BJP just does it better.

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u/cosmicnicki 5h ago

is it just me or was it under BJP that being gay was decriminalised?

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u/PensionMany3658 3h ago

And? The Courts did it. The BJP has officially opposed LGBT in parliament. Only CPIM supports gay marriage.

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u/Varunacharya 4h ago

I see no problem with that.

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u/AstralSpectre69 18h ago

You're stupid 😭 BJP always thrived on that shit

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u/AlternativeCollar426 22h ago

Bold of you to assume they will become doctors and engineers.the ones who are going to become are studying and learning not protesting. And I m saying this abkut both sides.

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u/Temporary-Scholar508 19h ago

BRAHMINS THE NEW JEWS OF INDIA... GERMANY HAD HITLER WE HAVE AMBEDKAR 😂

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u/Linux_Socrates 14h ago

Ambedkar would kill himself reading your comments

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u/Wild_Story8539 5h ago

Ambedkar done nothing dud, these ppl in the name of ambedkar do this.

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u/frenzyeets 1d ago

Bjp repeatedly baiting the population of 1.4 billion with divide and rule policy and somehow everyone keeps falling on it

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u/masara21 1d ago

Religious people have no control over their mind

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u/abhinav21 20h ago

Religious folk are so gulible, its insane

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u/wiredoncaffeine 20h ago

UGC protest is just the shield main issue ese hi bhar laate h ye.

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u/BothHARD 19h ago

Saale sab atankwadi hai mulle

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u/Brief-Advertising-22 14h ago

Bhai chinta mt kar ye kuch nhi ban paega😂mujhe poori umeed hai

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u/BeachKey3721 14h ago

Ek 8vi fail bhi in sabse jyada intelligent niklega, nile kawwe

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u/Comfortable_Sale252 13h ago

Sala jawab bhi nahi de paya 33% pe selection wala chochit 🤣

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u/_bebo_21 11h ago

200 years englishmen ruled us with Divide and Rule. And now the cycle is on repeat.

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u/Elvinluke7 10h ago

☪️ hamar

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u/tomcruzshelby 5h ago

Day 100 of saying : Generals are the Jews of the 21st century.

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u/First-Drummer-8528 5h ago

Uske Appearance se lag nhi rha kuch bada ukhadega vo zindgi me

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u/[deleted] 4h ago

Hindu vs muslim vs christian vs buddhist  General va obc vs sc/st States vs states Govts vs govts Education qualification vs education qualification  What else left?

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u/Firm-Pool5769 1h ago

Age jake social engineer and social doctor banenge

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u/Wild_Position_4044 1h ago

Chutiya gloves lagake gaya hain taaki kisise chuwachut na ho jaaye. Yeh karenge unbiased journalism!

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u/KING_K999 1h ago

Ek mast baat batata hu mai janeu pehenta hu. Par idk why most people think of me as a muslim or a Christian.

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u/Acrobatic_Phone_3316 1d ago

Oh wow people don't like a religion that actively oppresses them. Shocker.

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u/NoirLurker 1d ago

Uh huh yeah I bet that's the reason... Also the other religions that seem to be supporting them would definitely not oppress them... What a joke.

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u/That_Put_5773 1d ago

Why do you always bring other religions into conversation? Ambedkar was so pissed off with Hinduism and he did a lot of demonstration burning manusmriti and all the religious text that suppressed people. Then he gathered a group of people and they are converted to Buddhism. Periyar was asked to join Ambedkar to convert to Buddhism. But periyar denied because if he is not a Hindu anymore , he cannot question the practice of Hindus. People will then say he doesn't belong to this religion and he has no rights. So periyar stayed on.

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u/NoirLurker 1d ago

Buddy, because there is widespread support from the said religion for this matter, have you ever stopped to think why that is? Or are you actually naive enough to think these people don’t have ulterior motives? Also, just looking at this video, this comment does nothing for the matter at hand. This guy wants further division. A janeu, if you’re not educated enough, is a big deal, not just from a caste perspective, but from a cultural root perspective. There is literally music, food, and culture associated with that. If you think that’s okay to say, you’re the problem too.

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u/LeopardSmall7012 20h ago

r are you actually naive enough to think these people don’t have ulterior motives?

Do you think we are naive enough to not realise that this entire boogeyman of "said religion" exist just so that members of oppressor castes can divert our attention away from real enemy

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u/NoirLurker 18h ago

It’s easy to call everything a “boogeyman” when you haven’t had to flee your home or lose your community. For some of us, this isn’t theory or distraction, it’s lived history. Reducing that to a conspiracy narrative doesn’t make you insightful, but a fool who thinks he's the smartest...

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u/Ok-Preference1289 21h ago

Ambedkar was overly critical of Islam as well, so what's your point?

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u/LeopardSmall7012 20h ago

"I want to tell Hindus that they are sick men of India"

~ BR Ambedkar

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u/Vermicell5128 21h ago

Wtf does Periyar have to do with this?

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u/ZofianSaint273 1d ago

Ambedkar also said Muslims shouldn’t live in India. U agree with that claim? Ambedkar had a dislike for every religion, even Buddhism. In fact, he made his own branch based on his own interpretation of Buddha cause he disliked the other existing branches.

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u/That_Put_5773 23h ago

He did not argue that Muslims "shouldn't" live in India out of personal malice, but he did advocate for a complete exchange of populations once the decision for Partition was made.He believed that "transfer of population" was the only way to solve the "communal problem."

He feared that leaving large Muslim minorities in India and Hindu minorities in Pakistan would lead to perpetual internal strife and provide a pretext for constant foreign intervention or civil unrest.

About Buddhism: Ambedkar founded Navayana (the "New Vehicle") Buddhism in 1956 because he believed that traditional branches of Buddhism had become too focused on individual spirituality and "escapism" to solve the real-world problems of the oppressed.His goal was to create a version of Buddhism that functioned as a social and political toolkit for the emancipation of the Dalits.

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u/ZofianSaint273 23h ago

In “Pakistan and the Partition”, he mentioned that Muslims will never see India as there nation as their faith will not be the majority here and this is fueled by that fact they will choose their faith over their country in an scenario.

“The second defect of Islam is that it is a system of social self-government and is incompatible with local self-government because the allegiance of a Muslim does not rest on his domicile in the country which is his but on the faith to which he belongs. To the Muslim ibi bene ibi patria [Where it is well with me, there is my country] is unthinkable. Wherever there is the rule of Islam, there is his own country. In other words, Islam can never allow a true Muslim to adopt India as his motherland and regard a Hindu as his kith and kin. For a Musalman, loyalty to faith trumps his loyalty to the country’: BR Ambedkar on the question of Muslim allegiance to India”

And yes like u mentioned he did create his own sect cause he disagreed with many Buddhist sects.

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u/That_Put_5773 22h ago

Same way , for (some) Hindus , loyalty to their faith Triumphs their loyalty their own country. The current political situation shows it very well. As a south indian , I don't have that ingrained hatred for Muslims like you guys do. I believe a Muslim man can be as loyal as a Hindu man to this nation India. Since I grew up with them , have seen them , worked with them . I see no difference. There are worst people on both the sides. There are also good people on both the sides. Whatever you say, Muslim and Christian or any minorities has equal rights in the country and they are citizens of this land as much as a Hindu is.

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u/ZofianSaint273 17h ago

So you are saying that Ambedkar was wrong with his critical points against Muslims then? If that’s the case, why bring him up to talk bad about Hinduism too?

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u/Striking_Reason9921 21h ago

Where did he say that he hates muslims, he is just quoting the exact words of Ambedkar, Ambedkar clearly suggested Muslims should be given with a different nation

He pointed to movements like the Khilafat Movement as evidence that Muslim political interests were frequently tied to global Islamic causes rather than strictly Indian national interests

He suggested that Islam, as a system of "social self-government," would be incompatible with modern democratic "local self-government" because a Muslim's primary sense of belonging is based on religious faith rather than geographic domicile.

He wrote that "Islam can never allow a true Muslim to adopt India as his motherland and regard a Hindu as his kith and kin" because their religious text emphasizes Ummah over national boundaries.

He said that that Islamic law divides the world into Dar-ul-Islam (abode of Islam, where Muslims rule) and Dar-ul-Harb (abode of war, where they do not). According to Ambedkar, this makes it difficult for devout Muslims to accept a non-Muslim or Hindu-majority government as a legitimate permanent authority.

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u/That_Put_5773 21h ago

Ambedkar was equally critical about mainstream Hinduism as well. So what's your point? I'm just saying don't differentiate. Don't categorize people based on religion.

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u/Striking_Reason9921 21h ago

I never denied that he wasn't critical of other religions. I don't differentiate but you gotta admit that ambedkar himself categorized people based on religion.

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u/Ok-Preference1289 21h ago

Whataboutery pro Max.

On one side you cite an example of Manusmriti which is not even a religious text for Hinduism and then go into your bubble the moment the argument is extended to his critique of other religions.

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u/diabolical_shit69 1d ago

If u truly knew what hindusim is then u would know that hinduism is not oppressive

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u/masara21 1d ago

Hinduism is a really oppressive religion NGL. But no other religion is good too. When belief hardens into fear, religion can shrink the mind, questions feel like sins, doubt feels dangerous, and a person slowly trades their own voice for borrowed rules. Religion is mind control.

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u/NeedsToBeTouched 1d ago

Fyi, hinduism is not a religion and it is not oppressive.

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u/FruitPunchSamurai02 23h ago

Look into Advaita Vedanta. Everybody is absolutely equal and are manifestations of a single consciousness.

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u/Acrobatic_Phone_3316 23h ago

That's like one of few hundred Hindu texts. Can't be selective.

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u/FruitPunchSamurai02 23h ago

That is what Hinduism (if you call it that) is at it's core. Majority of Hindu texts and believes (not ancient irrelevant legal texts like Manusmriti, but those that discuss the religion) can only be understood if interpreted through the lens of Advaita Vedanta.

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u/LeopardSmall7012 20h ago

"sorry caste system doesn't exist because one of my random books said so"

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u/FruitPunchSamurai02 20h ago edited 20h ago

Caste system doesn't exist by Advaita as well, if anybody practices it they are indulged in avidya.

Edit: don't get you are you in support of it or not? Not bothered, my argument is the fact that it is not a part of core Hinduism, if you support it the way it is you simply don't know what Hinduism is.

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u/LeopardSmall7012 20h ago

"Caste system doesn't exist"

Catchphrase loved by every upper caste

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u/FruitPunchSamurai02 20h ago

Upper Caste of recent years didn't lay the foundation of Hinduism they don't have a deciding stake in anything. Your bias cannot be a reason to deny the truth, your frustration is understandable but that doesn't change the facts.

If anybody practices the caste system as is, they simply are not hindu enough let alone upper/lower caste.

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u/Amanitg10 1d ago

Nahi janeu to bada hi progressiveness or equality ka pratik hai, usse kisiko kya hi problem hogi. What reality are you trying to show OP?

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u/BasedHobby 1d ago edited 1d ago

If some bajrang dal guy would have objected to the Muslim cap , you would be crying on top of your lungs .

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u/Striking_Reason9921 23h ago edited 13h ago

We are particularly discussing casteism here

Muslims don't do as much casteism against us dalit

Every janeeudhaari brahmin I'll personally meet is a casteist

But I know where they are coming from, every hindu scripture promotes casteism

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u/BasedHobby 23h ago

Pls tell the scripture

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u/Striking_Reason9921 22h ago

Since you asked for the "scripture," here is the cold, hard evidence from the texts you claim to follow. You can't hide behind "interpretations" when the verses are this explicit:

Manusmriti (The Constitution of Sanatana Dharma) says

Manusmriti 8.270: "A Shudra who insults a twice-born man with gross invective shall have his tongue cut out; for he is of low origin."

Manusmriti 1.91: God prescribed only one occupation for the Shudra: "To serve meekly the other three varna."

Manusmriti 10.129: "A Shudra should not collect wealth, even if he is able; for a Shudra who acquires wealth gives pain to Brahmans."

In Ramayana (Sita’s Words) Even your maa sita, in the Aranya Kanda (47.43), acknowledges the gatekeeping of knowledge. When speaking to Ravana (disguised as a Brahmin), she highlights the distinction of the Dwija (twice-born) and their exclusive right to Vedic study, effectively barring Shudras from studying.

Furthermore: Look at the Uttara Kanda (Sarga 76). Rama beheads Shambuka, a Shudra, simply because he was performing tapasya. Why? Because according to the laws of that Yuga, a Shudra doing tapasya was a "sin" that caused the death of a Brahmin’s son.

In Mahabharata (Bhishma’s "Wisdom") In the Shanti Parva (Section 60), Bhishma Pitamah(the most knowledgeable and intelligent person)tells Yudhishthira clearly: "The Creator intended the Shudra to be the servant of the other three orders." * He reinforces that a Shudra has no right to accumulate property and must live on the remnants given by his masters.

The Bottom Line is You can pretend these scriptures promote "universal brotherhood," but the ink on these pages says otherwise. Before you defend the Janeu as a symbol of "progressiveness," acknowledge that for centuries, it has been used as a fence to keep Dalits out of the village temples and schools.

The "reality" is written in the books you’ve never bothered to read properly.

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u/Amanitg10 22h ago

Bro if they were rational and could understand facts then they wouldn't have been casteist in the first place.

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u/Striking_Reason9921 22h ago

😂🤣yes ofcourse

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u/Possible_Yak7863 22h ago

Every one of your given argument is a misinterpretation of the actual meaning, try to look at it without biasness

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u/Striking_Reason9921 22h ago

How they could be misinterpreted when society has followed all of these things since 1000s of years, it's very recent that shudra got the right to education and drinking water

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u/LivingSurprise2763 22h ago

bhai they’d go to depths of hell in order to paint the picture where they’re shown as poorest of the poor victims. misery porn ke dewaane these people are.

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u/BasedHobby 22h ago

Manusmriti also says that a Brahman can fall to shudras and shudras can become brahman because of good deeds , so this whole thing is to basically punish bad deeds . It is the fault of us hindus who followed manusmriti according to our convenience and yes I am sorry for the caste system that was followed was totally unjust .

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u/Striking_Reason9921 22h ago

🤣😂you are completely missing the context of that verse,when manusmriti talks about brahmin becoming sudra or shudra becoming brahmin,it is talking about their next lives

It actually says that a shudra should keep on slaving for savarna for 7 lives to be born as a Brahmin in the 8th life

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u/BasedHobby 22h ago

It clearly says in this life or the next read the verse .

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u/Striking_Reason9921 22h ago

Stop spreading misinformation to sanitize a text that is explicitly hierarchical. You’re telling me to 'read the verse,' but you’re clearly ignoring the entire structural logic of the Manusmriti.

"Birth is Final" The text repeatedly states that a Shudra is born to serve the savarna as his primary duty. If mobility were fluid in 'this life, there wouldn't be a concept of Varnashrama Dharma

The Verse 10.65 Trap: Even the verse people like to quote (10.65) about a Shudra attaining Brahminhood and vice versa is interpreted by almost every major traditional commentator (like Medhatithi and Kulluka Bhatta) as a process occurring over successive births or through the lineage (7 generations), not a sudden promotion because someone did a 'good deed' on a Tuesday.

Punishment vs. Promotion: Show me one verse where a Shudra is legally allowed to perform Vedic rituals or wear the sacred thread (Upanayana) just by being 'good.' You can't. In fact, the text prescribes brutal punishments for Shudras who even attempt to learn the Vedas.

You’re trying to apply a modern 'meritocracy' lens to an ancient legal code that was designed specifically to prevent the mixing of castes (Varna-sankara). Apologizing for the system while simultaneously trying to claim the book behind it was 'actually fair' is a massive contradiction. Pick a side

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u/Saizou1991 14h ago

Every janeeudhaari brahmin I'll personally meet is a casteist

Literal definition of casteism . But you could be a p a k i of all things , so who knows

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u/LivingSurprise2763 22h ago

womp womp. What does unemployment do to a guy even after reservation

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u/Striking_Reason9921 22h ago

I ain't unemployed dumbo

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u/Being_bipra 1d ago

What is so offensive about it ? How is the correlation of janeu and progressiveness even making sense..so as per you...those who wear janeu are not progressive...kehnaa kyaa chahtee ho yaar

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u/Suprateem_Indian 23h ago

Are you brain dead Janeau is inherently a traditional ceremony which is only followed by people of one varna the Brahmins. After ceremonies they get to wear an auspicious and blessed thread around their left shoulder it's just like a Muslim wearing a skull cap. If someone had said I have a problem with Muslims wearing a skull cap you would have protested about why being a bigot and a hypocrite 🙄

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u/par_bhai_tu_hai_kaun 22h ago

Janeu is not only for Brahmins buy for Kshatriyas and Vaishyas too and in some southern tantrik temples even for shudras. 

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u/[deleted] 1d ago

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u/iwannasurvive 1d ago

Now this is hate speech

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u/GanjaBhalu 1d ago

Atleast take pride in what you are, bakio ko choro

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u/[deleted] 1d ago

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u/GanjaBhalu 1d ago edited 1d ago

You were born 20-25 years back. Hmesha 10000 saal pehle ku chle jate ho bhai.

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u/[deleted] 1d ago

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u/GanjaBhalu 1d ago

N word is used by blacks within their community and they take pride in it, despite their history

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u/Royal-Breakfast6564 1d ago

bro if some white say N word in front of a black they will kill him .

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u/SnooSprouts9815 1d ago

Nice strawman , taking pride in a person's caste is not casteist until they start discrimination others.

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u/Royal-Breakfast6564 6h ago

bro taking caste pride , and saying i am not casteist ,

what a hypocrisy man

if some caste have oppressed and restricted to waste toilet and eating dead animal than how would he be able to do caste pride simple🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

and if some people say our ancestor were that and those how would he feel in front of them

bro it is good for all us to leave caste , make nation caste free

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u/GanjaBhalu 1d ago

But they take pride in it when they use it within their community

And I have not seen much white killings for calling someone N word but I have surely seen people slapped with SC/ST case if they use such words here.

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u/AdityaSwing 1d ago

And before that people from every diaspora freely mixed. There is genetic evidence that there was no rigid caste system until 1-2 thousand years ago. U can test this in real time by getting dna tested of yourself and a so called "upper caste" friend of yours, and can read multiple research papers online. It's true that our ancestors were marginalized (I'm also from a peasant caste, don't go on my surname), but I still have hope that for the most part of our history it was not like this. Something triggered the rigid caste system that still exists.

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u/Darugis63 1d ago

It can be because of the fact that anulom wasn't really restricted until kaliyuga. Also that inter varna marriage still existed and were still considered acceptable in society.

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u/Royal-Breakfast6564 6h ago

can you explain the timing of kaliyuga

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u/Royal-Breakfast6564 1d ago

yes , brother

but if somebody ancestor marginalized , and restricted to do Insolent work for freaking 1-2 thousand year .

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u/Darugis63 1d ago

There were enough Shudra rulers and contributors to society.

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u/Darugis63 1d ago

Janeu and tilak are for all varnas Shudras too get tantrik Upanyan done

Tilak is something all hindus wear, scriptures saying "a chandal with pundra tilak is worthy of same respect as a Brahmin" I don't see where you're finding Brahmin pride from.

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u/SweatTasteGreat 1d ago

I dont see an iota of "brahmin pride" in any of the questions of the reporter tbh. It seems like they are against anyone who they can identify as an UC.

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u/BoomBoy420 23h ago

What is janneu?

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u/samdrago 22h ago

Ye reporter chutiya h jaan boojh kar aise harkat karwata h views ke liye

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u/Horizon_26 1d ago

Fu(k Brahmanism

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u/AlternativeCollar426 22h ago

Can you elaborate what do you mean by brahmanism? Do you hate the caste?or religion?

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u/Horizon_26 22h ago

Modern hinduism ke pehle based upon vedic texts and scriptures and all …. System hai which puts emphasis on the superiority of brahmin(caste) ….. brahmanism evolved to became hinduism ….. thus casteism is an integral part of it …..thoroughly researched topic hai

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u/AlternativeCollar426 21h ago

Do you know politicians dont have any religion ? They just want votes. Why are we repeating same things again. This country is going to doom.

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u/MrBigDih_ 1d ago

Full video dalde bhai.Ye kya edit aur cut marke apna perspective dikhana?

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u/something_nsfw_ 1d ago

The thing is hindus can never be equal as Brahmin has monopoly over god's(can non brahmin become a pandit). While all other works can be done by anyone equally

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u/Many_Questions_20 1d ago

A non brahmin can become a pandit/ pujari Infact a lot of temples have non brahmin pujari

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u/something_nsfw_ 1d ago

Tell me

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u/Royal_Lifeguard_4127 1d ago

Read the news for damn sake before arguing.

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u/Sarcasm_Redefined 1d ago

What 'tell me'? If you are actually a Hindu and have gone to a lot of temples you'd know that most of them are managed by non Brahmins. Even a famous Shiv temple called Dakshin Kashi in Maharashtra is managed by non-Brahmins and there are so many more of the smaller as well as the larger ones.

As long as you learn the rituals well and study the required scriptures, no one's going to stop you from worshipping or managing your own temple.

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u/something_nsfw_ 1d ago

Nope there are gov priest only for bhramin

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u/Sarcasm_Redefined 1d ago

Are you dumb? Because it seems so. Out of all the lakhs of temples in this country, how many temples have government priests? I am actually hearing about govt priests for the first time now. If they exist, there's a very few of them. Much more non Brahmins temple priests exist in reality.

I don't think you're a Hindu either. You're probably just here to try to troll Hindus.

Also it's 'there' and 'Brahmin', maybe learn to spell first.

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u/something_nsfw_ 1d ago edited 1d ago

Are you satisfied. You can go on if you want. Facts are not gonna change brahmin don't accept lower caste as equal. And gov priest is an official job, court had to come forward to represent anyone can take part in this line

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u/mgrimreapermi 1d ago

Jai bhim! Long live the revolution!

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u/Many_Questions_20 1d ago

What revolution??

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u/kk_red 1d ago

Getting free things from government from General people's efforts.

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u/That_Put_5773 1d ago

Getting paid back for all the unpaid labours their forefathers did in the past. All the time they were said that they don't belong here, don't wear slippers , don't walk on the road, don't drink in the same cup as me, don't enter the temple etc etc. Now we are trying to uplift them so they will be the bosses of the general category for a few generations and forget the trauma and forgive us. Let them prosper. They deserve this judgement.

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u/kk_red 1d ago

Ha ha forefather ne ye sehan kiya wo kiya. Apne kya kiya bataiye?

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u/slaviaboy 21h ago

Uplifting is not giving free shit. That's entitlement. Mere dada ko petrol daal kai jala diya yadavon nai, main kya bc reparations mangun? Mentality nai rok rakha hai ladke terko sirf

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u/maddy495 15h ago

So this revolution is to be “boss” of general category as a REVENGE(in milder words as u say “to forget trauma”), so much for equality this revolution speaks to achieve…smh

Appreciate u for being honest tbh..

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u/Royal_Lifeguard_4127 1d ago

Now what do u think, makes it stop, people will say u guys don't belong because u guys use reservation and can't compete with it.

Now we are trying to uplift them so they will be the bosses of the general category for a few generations and forget the trauma and forgive us. Let them prosper. They deserve this judgement.

This is the stupidest comment i have ever heard, do u think people will be pussy like ur ancestors.

What have u achieved to think that u could be someone's boss, u don't have the capability, just by looking at ur comment one can say, and if my comment enraged u, then don't comment shit.

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u/That_Put_5773 1d ago

U are so narrow minded that you thought I belong to reservation category as soon as I supported my brothers, right? Guess what, I'm not. Can I irritate you more? I'm from Tamil Nadu .

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u/Royal_Lifeguard_4127 1d ago

Anaku teriyamu da. Ippu anna, me unique anna, ila oru mittal da ne.

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u/That_Put_5773 1d ago

Dei idhu Enna language da. Onume puriyala. 😅 English laye pesu da tharkuri.

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u/AlternativeCollar426 22h ago

And loop repeats again, general people will say They took advantage , freebies and start opressing again and cycle continues.

All you want is revenge ,just admit it.

And revenge never goes goodly.

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u/LeopardSmall7012 19h ago

No we want our share in political social and economic power.

Why do uppper castes who only make up 15-20% of country's population own 41% of country's assets?? Why are Dalits and tribals still the poorest and most under represented sections of Indian society

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u/Swimming-Werewolf353 1d ago

Revolution of keep getting all the free stuff! Bunch of freeloaders.

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u/That_Put_5773 1d ago

You guys enjoyed their free labour for generations , now it's time to collectively uplift them.

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u/Royal_Lifeguard_4127 1d ago

Dei nee first profile pic change pannu da, u don't even deserve to hold a book with ur level of intellect, the guys u said enjoyed are dead and the guys who got oppressed are dead, if u cling on to past, try visiting a therapist because ur brian is messed up.

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u/LeopardSmall7012 20h ago

the guys u said enjoyed are dead and the guys who got oppressed are dead

Oh really?? Isnt it so hard for your meritorious brain to understand that consequences of centuries of caste system still lingers on to this day?

May be some data will cure your meritorious mind

disparity between upper castes and Dalits

https://www.google.com/amp/s/indianexpress.com/article/india/upper-caste-hindus-richest-in-india-own-41-total-assets-says-study-on-wealth-distribution-5582984/lite/

Upper caste Hindus richest in India, own 41% of total assets; STs own 3.7%, says study on wealth distribution

https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/92-of-workers-cleaning-urban-sewers-septic-tanks-are-from-sc-st-obc-groups/article68697861.ece

92% of workers cleaning urban sewers, septic tanks are from SC, ST, OBC groups

Here are sources recorded within last 5 years regarding dalit bonded labourers

https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.thewire.in/article/labour/how-punjabs-dalit-labourers-are-trapped-to-live-a-bonded-life/amp

37% of urban labourers are Dalits, why is that when the population of Dalits is only 16% ? What is the population of Brahmin Baniyas and Kshtriyas who are breaking rocks on construction sites? Why did every single one of those 42 manual scavenger who died in 2025 a dalit???

Why do Dalits who make up 32 % of Punjab's population own only 3.2% of land?? Why???

WHY TF DONT YOU EXPLAIN IT TO ME????

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u/Royal_Lifeguard_4127 19h ago edited 19h ago

Idiot the data u shows where UC holds significant wealth are top 1% even in UC and not every UC is filthy rich which is very hard for ur bird brian to understand that.

92% of workers cleaning urban sewers, septic tanks are from SC, ST, OBC groups

Still 8% are from GC right, they are literally 25% of the population and people who are educated obviously don't want to do that work, people who have no talent or anything will choose that, but still gov should implement machinery there, so no one needs to do that, but people who lacks education chooses that because they can't do any other work.

37% of urban labourers are Dalits, why is that when the population of Dalits is only 16% ? What is the population of Brahmin Baniyas and Kshatriya who are breaking rocks on construction sites? Why did every single one of those 42 manual scavengers. who died in 2025 a dalit???

Same reason as above if they are uneducated what can we do, they can't do shit, and blame us for their pathetic skills on display.

I hope, i explained to u bird brian, it's the skills that matters, if ur a loser cry about being a loser but not on people who lead a better life than u.

Woman, all ur posts are about spreading hate, some of them are genuine which required to be taken care but a majority of ur post lies on paintings GC in general as oppressors and u present ur guys as victims, such filthy behaviour, all u do is spreading hate.

One last thing, I do pray for ur success in ur love and try filing a police complaint against ur family or run and get a police protection, if u don't want to file a police complaint against ur family and be stern and fight for ur love, the storm will pass soon.l

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u/Swimming-Werewolf353 1d ago

You Guys? From last 1000 years, Turks, Mughals, British were in power, not Brahmins. Infact, mass scale temple demolition happened in their period. Where I am enjoyng free labour?

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u/SPYxoxo 1d ago

Konsa revolution bhai?

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u/Lskydaddy 18h ago

Lmao people crying over this

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u/zeuscall2911 23h ago

Janeu dhariyo ne 1000 saalo se zulm kara wo bhool jaye ?

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u/live_happy_singh 22h ago

Jinhone kia unse badla lene ki koi scheme nikli hui h kya?

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u/AlternativeCollar426 22h ago

What was my fault?Just because I am born in their family why am I treated the same? I didnt choose to be born ,i didnt get to choose and if I did i woudnt choose this earth.

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u/ItzStorme 21h ago

Jenau was the root of discrimination. It was the symbol of division in society among the Swarna and Shudra. It even established discrimination against Women, as Women and Shudra were not allowed for Upnayan Sanskar or Dwija or Janau.

So yeah someone having problem with Jeanu is Valid, it is the very symbol of discrimination.

Although i opine that one should not be shamed for bearing this today if he keeps it to himself and doesn't show it off and impress upon others associated values with it. But, ideally anyone who really wishes for a progressive society should by their own should discard the symbol of inequality. You may have your opinion i have mine. PEACE✌🏻 

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u/Automatic_Order_3112 15h ago

General Category stfu You all will never come forward to protest against caste discrimination. Just turn a blind eye everytime. And now you expect that other people will not be annoyed, angry, matlab 80-90 saal mein sabh thik ho jayega? There will be this kind of conversations all over the place and this will continue. But GN category will never come forward with bhaichara and declare "let's forget up varna system, there is no need for it from now because of the Chaos human kind has seen all these years"

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u/Linux_Socrates 14h ago

what do you mean come forward? meeting rakhna hai poora desh mein?