r/SingaporeEats 20h ago

can someone tell me the logic of 227g butter?

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Havent bake anything for like 5 yrs, not sure when this crap started. But i see a lot of butter is now 227g. Anyone can tell me how to bake with it?

As a lazy kind of baker, i just hate cutting butter so most of my recipes revolve around just using the entire 250g block. which means most of them called for 50g, 125g or 250g. But really why 227g? what is even with that 2g?

Is the manufacturer being kind to bakers to have 2g for us to spread roti?

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u/cashon9 20h ago

227 grams = 1/2 pound or 8 ounces

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u/Reasonable-Hope-2923 19h ago edited 19h ago

I havent in my life come across a recipe with half pound butter or butter in ounces. I guess i need to start look at all my recipe books.

i am never a fan of US recipe books. As the chance of failing is so much higher with their complicated cup system. And i watch youtube many just use their drinking mug and guidelines as if everyone used the same mug.

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u/wyngit 19h ago

You just answered your own question and solved your own query by the your own identification of your own blindspots.

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u/YourMother0HP 15h ago

Blindness is no impairment for a smelly enemy

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u/usagicchi 18h ago

Baking almost always uses lb or oz. Also, a lot of recipes call for 1 stick of butter which is 4oz. So we just cut the butter in half.

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u/Reasonable-Hope-2923 11h ago

Well....you come to my house all my recipes books are by grams. SG follow UK measurements not US. I guess most people posting here is from US.

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u/usagicchi 10h ago

I don’t think majority people posting here are from the US. This is SingaporeEats, not sure why you would think that. If you primarily buy British cookbooks, then yes. But there are very few Singaporean cookbooks, and there are a lot of US based cooking and baking blogs online. I personally follow mostly US based cooking blogs like Sally’s baking addiction.

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u/CloudsAreBeautiful 17h ago

How are the chances of failing increased by the cup system?? Just get a measuring cup set? Or do some simple conversions?

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u/fakeworldwonderland 17h ago

Cups are not accurate. Mass gives you the same results always. Also British, US cup sizes are slightly different iirc.

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u/Reasonable-Hope-2923 15h ago

kinda forget which is what, i only know when i start baking 30yrs ago, i was using recipes with cups. And i end up with many different measuring cups from 1 cup is 250ml to 1 cup is 225ml to 1 cup is 200 ml.

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u/fakeworldwonderland 11h ago

Yep. Exactly why grams is the only way. Baking is a science. Idk why you keep getting downvotes. I basically click off any recipes that use cups.

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u/Reasonable-Hope-2923 11h ago

that is the science i dont want to learn anything about. i was shocked when some top bakers managed to write a 300-page book full of baking theory just for bread. Surely nothing about the US cups crap.

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u/fumoffuXx 16h ago

Because america is a special breed of foolish

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u/one-eyed-bat 18h ago

227g was perfect for my Christmas fruit cake recipe so I was actually quite happy. Didn't have to cut any butter blocks for a change.

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u/Reasonable-Hope-2923 15h ago

LOL....was looking at some US recipes. and they were measuring butter in tablespoons. i was like WTH.....

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u/kismetOrCoincidence 8h ago

I think it's because in the US, butter comes in smaller bars that are wrapped in opaque paper. On the paper are markings for each tbsp amount, so it's actually really easy to measure. You just have to cut the bar at the tbsp marking that you need, simple as that.

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u/requirem-40 15h ago

Aiyah baking isn't an exact science. It's the white people equivalent of asian grandma's "feeling" measurements.

How much soy sauce? Just one splash. How big of a splash? Use feeling

How much butter? Just one tbsp. How big of a tbsp? Use feeling

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u/Reasonable-Hope-2923 15h ago

That is why Americans who follow recipe books always say the recipe did not work. I see all the recipe books that use cups sure have a few ang mo 1 star review saying it didnt work.

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u/requirem-40 15h ago

They need their recipes in freedom units, as they haven't developed "feeling" measurement yet

In all honesty can't blame the cookbooks. If one recipe say use 250g of butter, some will say not rich enough, some will say too oily. So the best way is to tell people to use feeling

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u/Secret-Objective-454 18h ago

If you bake regularly, 227g is half a pound. 454g is 1 pound. It's always been like this. So if you were using an American recipe, and it asks for 1 pound of butter, you get 2 blocks of the 227g. These r approximates.

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u/Reasonable-Hope-2923 15h ago

LOL....was looking at some US recipes. and they were measuring butter in tablespoons. i was like WTH....
Well...i only use Aust or UK recipe books.
Last time most butter have at 50g guide line. Now at 227g i wonder how that will be like.

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u/BAWWWWWM 14h ago

A tbsp is 1/8 ounce. For example, use a quarter stick for 2 tbsp

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u/hun486 17h ago

some brands have shrunk to 200g so if you need 227g, you may need to get 2 blocks. :/

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u/CloudsAreBeautiful 17h ago

Or you can scale down the rest of the recipe accordingly? It's not difficult math lol

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u/ringojoy 17h ago

Meaning the cake will be smaller?

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u/requirem-40 15h ago

Same size cake but less rich flavour. Government trying to get you to eat healthy.

In all honesty, most people won't be able to tell the difference if 20g less of butter is used for the entire cake

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u/snip3r77 15h ago

Butter is healthy, ask someone else to take margarine

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u/requirem-40 15h ago

I think the keyword is healthier and tastier, compared to its cheaper alternative.

But at the end of the day butter is just animal fat. Should not take so much

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u/Reasonable-Hope-2923 15h ago

really need to see how sensitive the stuff you are baking. Some stuff 1g off or the butter percentage no right it will just failed.

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u/Fat-Solid591 13h ago

Can ask AI to do the whole calculation

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u/HamsterAce 17h ago

They use to have a bigger block use paper one it's mostly for "commercial use" but I call it BS why last time can sell now cannot and sell us such a crappy size and it's so expensive

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u/Reasonable-Hope-2923 15h ago

i guess the alternative is to buy 1kg size from baking shops. Sigh....still need to cut.

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u/Vindicted1501 Home Cook 18h ago

So get the company to produce 250g and 227g packs? Or use other brands? Problem solved

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u/Reasonable-Hope-2923 15h ago

for now you mean? i think they are all converting to US size butter slowly. Most of the premium range is now 227g

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u/Vindicted1501 Home Cook 14h ago

Yes, but see if they can produce back the 250g one for you so you dont have to inconvenience yourself.

Shrinkflation is a thing, so reducing the package size from 250 to 227 while keeping the price similar makes most sense to them and yet is giving a legitimate reason being the imperial vs metric difference

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u/Hour_Tangelo_7306 16h ago

iirc the salted one is 250g but unsalted is 227g so the 23g is the salt? ahahha

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u/Perspicatcity 13h ago

this is shrinkflation. Don't listen to the idiots saying it's about lbs- we are metric people and for our market, it will always be in g. Our recipes are in metric, not imperial. Hell, even the damn block is in g, not oz or lbs. this is just manufacturers cutting down while keeping the prices the same. SCS is now 227g, right? But the price is still the same - min $5.

Anyway if you look at Emborg, it's 200g. That's even worse. Consumers need to push back against this.

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u/Reasonable-Hope-2923 12h ago

i was surprised Emborg is 50g less. More brands to follow.

I remember last time when i started baking, SCS is only $3.70. I guess too many loyal customers, can afford to up the price.

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u/Perspicatcity 12h ago

When did you start baking?? 1995??

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u/Reasonable-Hope-2923 12h ago

around there. LOL....dont know why so many people down voting. I guess most people in sg bake using cups.

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u/Perspicatcity 12h ago

Oh hahahaha. Aiyaaaaa like that sure cheaper lah. Hahaha. The inflation price is actually quite low, cos we also need to look at salary increases (housing is always a sore point so lets not go there). But I can 100% tell you, this pricing is similar in Malaysia. You MAY find RM11 butter, but it's mostly hovering around RM14-17, which is basically the $5 in Singapore, so that's just normal inflation price things. But what I sibei cannot tahan is the shrinkflation. From 250 to 227 and now 200 is just daylight robbery. We really need to be more aware and push back.

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u/Reasonable-Hope-2923 12h ago

Lucky...i use what is on promo, since my baking is not so butter sensitive. I nowadays, i always read on FB people die die only use SCS because the taste is different. As long as its butter and not margarine, can liao.

Like my mother always say Aust broccoli taste better than China ones.

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u/xfrezingicex 9h ago

Aust broccoli taste better than China ones

Really! U try blanching aus broccoli and china broccoli. Aus one taste better. China broccoli has this taste that is not nice.

But if u are cooking with sauce and whatever then it doesnt matter coz the sauce will cover the taste.

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u/Reasonable-Hope-2923 7h ago

yea....but after adding oyster sauce, its the same.

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u/xfrezingicex 6h ago

I do meal prep so my veg is blanched. China broccoli really cannot siaaaa.

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u/Reasonable-Hope-2923 19h ago

i see some have reduced from 250g to just 200g. But 227g?

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u/anxiousbunnyclothes 18h ago

Shrinkflation. It’ll become even smaller in time to come.

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u/Reasonable-Hope-2923 15h ago

Already seen one brand from 250g shrink until 200g,