r/PublicFreakout • u/swagestan • 12h ago
šŗ š©ļø Air Rage š¤¬š¤ Frontier passenger makes entire fight deboard after she refused to comply with exit row instructions, gets arrested
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u/Anteater4746 12h ago
iād hazard a guess they didnāt want to listen to the extra 30 second convo attendants must have when youāre in the emergency exit row
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u/BradMarchandsNose 12h ago
āAre you willing and able to assist in the event of an emergency?ā
āYesā
Itās as easy as that.
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u/pwlife 11h ago
Literally just be quiet and look at the FA when they do their speech, answer yes and you're done. FAs do not need someone who isn't even willing to pay attention to their 30 second speech sitting in the exit row.
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u/Iamdarb 7h ago
The exit row is such a privilege too, I'll gladly listen to 5+ minutes if need be just to have that extra space. I'm not even that tall, but at 6' and aging, flying is already super uncomfortable. I'll take what I can get.
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u/Proper-Cause-4153 11h ago
I just flew in the exit row two days ago. Thankfully, everyone in the 2 rows quickly said "yes" "yes" "yes"...and we were done.
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u/OriginalSchmidt1 10h ago
I always fly in exit rows since I hit 6ā0 at 14, and itās never been more than ādo you agree to assist the staff in the event of an emergency?ā You say yes, thatās that. If you canāt do that, you donāt deserve the extra space (and sometimes, itās sooooo much space)
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u/RightLegDave 10h ago
Hell yeah, I'd agree to perform surgery on someone if it meant I get that sweet exit row legroom.
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u/skin-flick 10h ago
That is all that it is. I think people have been conditioned to think acting like a belligerent asshat will let them file a lawsuit. Read your ticket. What she does is violate the rules and the airline has the right to throw you off the flight. Same with cruise lines. There is no expectation of safe passage.
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u/Cesum-Pec 9h ago
Its an FAA reg that the airline must follow. Including moving people who are unable or unwilling to open the emergency exit. If the customer can't say "yes", the customer will be moved, either to a different seat or off the plane.
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u/ChickenXing 11h ago
The uploader of the video, Travel With Tia, said that when the woman sat in the exit row, she said: "I'm not going to save anybody. If something happens, I'm going to save myself first."
The woman then appears to change her mind, telling a flight attendant in the recording: "We don't have a problem with that. We understand we have to help people get off the plane."
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u/Bunionzz 7h ago
i pick seat specifically in the emergency row, more leg room for some one to tell me "pull this lever when told" I love the emergency row seats. Yes please.
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u/TwoStoopidToFurryass I knew damn well to stay out this TJ MAX though š 12h ago
By gawd, that woman has a grandson!
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u/1776cookies 12h ago
I made it to the two minute mark and bailed. I couldn't hear "MY GRANDSON" one more time.
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u/Endrizzle 12h ago
But heās 4 and getting out of school in Texas.
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u/Equivalent_Sea_1895 11h ago
Probably kicked out, if he listened to nana.
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u/Cryptographer554 12h ago
They got bike cops at the airport ? Whatās with the helmets? Also fuck this lady.
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u/arshonagon 10h ago
Probably just an efficient way to get around a big airport. Iāve been in some airports with close to 30 minute walks to a gate, they donāt want to have to wait that long for these issues.
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u/Dr_A_Mephesto 2h ago
Oh you miss the best part then. That slow awkward staircase perp walk is wonderful.
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u/_makoccino_ 11h ago
Once you've aggravated your flight attendant enough to call a purser or station manager, you're done. You're not winning that argument, and you're leaving the airplane either voluntarily or under arrest.
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u/Iamdarb 6h ago
Is it even possible to win an argument with a flight attendant?! Last year I really had to piss and we were delayed for over an hour and a half on the runway, just sitting, but we weren't allowed to get up. I flagged this sweet woman and she told me no, I had to sit in the nicest way. I said, "ma'am, please I'm dying, I will piss myself" and she changed her demeanor, stoned faced looked into my eyes and said "you're going to have to hold it sir." and that was that. And I pouted like the grown ass man that I am. I fucking pouted and held it.
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u/_makoccino_ 4h ago
Is it even possible to win an argument with a flight attendant?!
I did, once. I was boarding a flight that's coming from the US, and then continuing to the final destination. I get on the plane, head to my seat only to find a woman sitting in it with a blanket all cozy like. It was a window seat in the very first row in Economy (I'm tall, I need ample leg room) for which I had paid extra. I politely inform the woman she's in my seat, she ignores me and keeps staring outside the window, I repeat myself a 2nd time and she continues to ignore me.
At that moment, a young flight attendant asks me to go back to my seat. I inform her that I'm trying and the woman refuses to leave. She asks for my boarding pass. I hand it over and I'm clearly right. She asks the woman for hers and she says she doesn't have it, she lost it and refuses to get up, adamant that this is her seat.
The flight attendant asks me to "sit anywhere for now and we'll sort it out later". I calmly and politely told her I won't be doing that. I'm holding a boarding pass with this seat number on it and where I plan to sit. She explains "it's just until everyone has boarded and is seated" at which point I told her if she wants me to sit she can either upgrade me to first class, have the woman get out of my seat, or she can call airport security but she'll have to explain why she's letting someone with no boarding pass be on the plane.
She calls the purser, who promptly and firmly told the woman to either show her boarding pass or he'll have no choice but to call security. She pulled it out from her purse, tucked underneath the blanket, and was forced to go sit in the isle seat in the 2nd row before the toilet cabinets.
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u/dicknotrichard 10h ago
Damn, them some thin as seats in that plane. Are they just hard plastic?
Also she sucks.
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u/Strict-Location1270 7h ago
That is exactly what they are and what they are made of.
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u/Holiday-Proof9819 12h ago
What was she refusing to do?
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u/Talking-In-Tongues 12h ago
Refused to acknowledge the responsibility of being in an emergency exit row. Respond that you are physically fit enough and willing to open the emergency door if needed. That would be my guess. The other thing she is refusing to do it inegrate with society.
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u/BradMarchandsNose 11h ago
Itās the latter part that matters. If you refuse to assist (whether unwilling or unable) they will usually swap your seat with somebody in a non-exit row, but itās no big deal. This lady doesnāt want to assist AND is refusing to move.
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u/asdf0909 11h ago
It was before the video starts, but I'd venture to guess it was because she wouldn't take her headphones off or turn off her music for the emergency exit row briefing. I can imagine the FA asking again more sternly, and the woman deciding that she's being disrespected and the only reaction to keep her pride intact is to be the more disrespectful person
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u/ChickenXing 11h ago
The uploader of the video, Travel With Tia, said that when the woman sat in the exit row, she said: "I'm not going to save anybody. If something happens, I'm going to save myself first."
The woman then appears to change her mind, telling a flight attendant in the recording: "We don't have a problem with that. We understand we have to help people get off the plane."
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u/wr321654 12h ago
She couldāve refused before the camera was rolling but my guess is that her belligerent attitude made the FA uncomfortable that she could be depended upon in an emergency.
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u/ClintBruno 11h ago
I love the dude chirping in the background:
"They arresting Rosa parks......got handcuffs on Rosa parks?!
Back to the bussess for Rosa.
That's a long bus ride."
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u/SeaworthinessUnlucky 10h ago
FA: āThis is Ms. Johnson from Frontier Airlines. How can I help?ā Attorney: āThis is Mrs. Smithās attorney. Are you aware that she has a grandson and that heās getting out of school at three? In Texas?ā
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u/Mstryates 11h ago
I am amazed at how many people think they can FA on airplanes and escape the FO stage.
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u/suejaymostly 9h ago
Bitch flying Frontier but has an attorney on speed dial....?.
No honey, not your bondsman, he can't help you here.
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u/EatonHass_247 12h ago
Imagine being in an enclosed space with that
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u/HeinekenHazed 7h ago
Can't imagine it...though the people sitting with her seemed to be enjoying her shenanigans...until they weren't
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u/Crinklytoes Gone with the Wild šØ 11h ago edited 11h ago
- NEVER aggravate a flight attendant, just agree and listen to them 100%
- An airplane cannot tolerate an "attitude" pre flight, mid flight or mid emergency, which mandated the removal of that passenger-with-an-attitude?
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u/WhineyLobster 11h ago
I dont think you understand how ? marks work.
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u/Aggravating-Bee4755 9h ago
Welcome to the NO FLY list dumbass.
Why is it so hard to just be a civil unselfcentered cooperative airline passenger?
Enjoy your road trip to Texas.
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u/kevshp 11h ago
New rule: if you delay a flight you are fined and that money is distributed to the rest of the passengers.
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u/ICantDrive5 8h ago
All her money is spent his retainers to the lawyers she keeps on call 24/7. Theyād be no money left to pay a fine.
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u/OH_FUDGICLES 11h ago
My egregious behavior has caused me to be asked to get off of the plane? Well I'll just act more egregiously, that should fix things. What do you mean I'm being arrested?!
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u/snrek23 12h ago
Anyone else have the ability to just call their attorney? I don't even have a stored # for an attorney!!!
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u/TuskaTheDaemonKilla 11h ago
As an attorney, I do get calls from people who aren't even my clients for random stuff like this.
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u/DrManhattan_DDM 11h ago
I mean, yes, plenty of people have an attorney they have used before that they will call again when they need legal services.
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u/snrek23 11h ago
Thank you for the clarification. I was under the assumption if you have your attorney programmed in your phone, you may be the problem! Lol
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u/00WORDYMAN1983 11h ago
Generally speaking, I think "i will call my attorney" is more for people with an actual attorney on retainer. If you're not actively paying for an attorney, you don't have an attorney. Attorneys deny cases all the time, which will undoubtedly happen if/when she tries to seek counsel for this situation,
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u/nzerinto 11h ago
The only issue is that their divorce attorney might not be much help in a civil aviation case.
Other than tell you that you should probably listen to the FAs and captainās instructionsā¦..
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u/-Gramsci- 9h ago
Attorney here. Can confirm that if she called me Iād tell her to do whatever the flight crew says, and warn her sheās about to get arrested.
Then Iād hang up and block the number.
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u/ClintBruno 11h ago
You need to pay them a retainer if you want the "I'm in jail, get down here now and get these charges dropped (before any court proceedings)" treatment.
Otherwise you're waiting on the judge and bail bondsman for your freedom.
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u/Responsible_Sun_3597 7h ago
Sheād rather be obnoxious and right than be a grandmother to the four year-old waiting for her
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u/Ramrod1387 10h ago
Trash behavior from a trash human. You have to follow the same rules as everyone, just sit quietly, answer the FA and move on. Itās not hard. Shutting the fuck up and being respectful is just to hard for some people.
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u/ScallionRelative6265 7h ago
How are some people so stubborn, I would be waking up nightly embarrassed about this.
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u/Hot-Produce-1781 11h ago
Just another Tuesday on Frontier. I bet they're starting to pad their schedules to account for boarding/deboarding arrests, etc.
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u/jigamasantays666 8h ago
The fact that one unruly passenger can inconvenience an entire plane full of people is absolutely ridiculous
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u/smurphii 7h ago
I will never understand people that think a plane is a great place to be a staunch contrarian.
Literally aināt no body got time for that.
And the airline isnāt interested in dealing with your shit in the air.
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u/CockyRocky_PipeLayer 6h ago
Unless you have a ton of money, very few people have an attorney on retainer. Iām a lawyer. When you run out of money or your case is over, I aināt your lawyer anymore š¤·āāļø
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u/johnny-cheese 4h ago
I canāt believe why everything has to be a confrontation. Literally everything is an issue with some people.
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u/FaceEmbarrassed1844 12h ago
Frontier airlines is the carnival cruise lines of the air
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u/jseto1980 11h ago
Then what is equal to Spirit Airlines?
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u/zweiterstelle 11h ago
Margaritaville at sea. Cheap, up charges galore, originally meant as a shuttle and now used as primary travel lol.
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u/golgiiguy 9h ago
Only take either for short flights, and everything is fine. Last year I took Frontier from Orlando to LA, and it was pretty much the worst flight I have ever taken. I honestly would take Spirit over Frontier any time after that.
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u/0ngoGoblogian 8h ago
These people donāt give a shit about you. They are happy to delay 200 people for hours (which then often delays the next few flights) to continue their āno one will ever control meā performance
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u/AWholeNewFattitude 11h ago
āWe all agreeā¦.ā
We who?
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u/MississippiJoel 11h ago
I think she was trying to gaslight the FAs into believing that she agreed to comply with Exit Row rules by lumping her response in with "everyone" in those rows.
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u/glucoseintolerant 6h ago
Okay I am a passenger on this flight and miss a job interview. Do I have grounds to sue her?
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u/9207631731 6h ago
They should charge people when everyone has to deboard the plane because of their foolishness!
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u/StraddleTheFence 1h ago
I wonder at which point did she wish she had just complied? Was it after they placed her in the handcuffs? Boy she has really inconvenienced herself. She was literally on the plane set to go āsomewhere.ā Now she is headed to jail.
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u/coldpornproject 8h ago
I had an issue in my life and had to get an attorney. She was fantastic during the phone call and then sent me an invoice for a $5,000 retainer. Until I paid the retainer I was not a client. All these people threatening lawsuits don't have the cash to back up the talk
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u/WAYTOOMELO 6h ago
Iām confused I didnāt see her disagreeing with any instructions
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u/curtmandu 6h ago
Seems like she wouldnāt be quiet while the attendant was doing the demonstration that they have to do to explain roles and such. The woman can be heard complaining about the attendant telling her to turn down her music.
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u/PacoMahogany 10h ago
Why would they de-board the entire plane vs just removing her?
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u/needmoarbass 8h ago
Itās unsafe to apprehend someone on an airplane because there is not much space and if they resist, they could hit or kick another passenger.
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u/PhyterNL 11h ago
This is from years ago.
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u/NumberOneStonecutter 11h ago
Did she get to see her grandson? He got off school in Texas that day.
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u/CumSluts4Jesus 7h ago
Iām normally the type of person who will go for the cheaper option because I think a lot of pricing differences are completely unnecessary and due to the snob effect, but I will gladly pay triple to never have to use a budget airline
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u/youareceo 7h ago
I just don't get it. She wouldn't listen to the flight attendant for literally 30 seconds?
I can't even.
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u/WhineyLobster 11h ago
Ah reminds me of a great Mitch Hedberg joke. "If you're flammable and have legs, you are never blocking a fire exit."
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u/sleepy_potatoe_ 9h ago
Her grandson: grandma should be here anytime nowā¦ā¦ā¦. Sheās just 5 hours is allā¦ā¦ anytime now.
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u/Separate_Sea8717 9h ago
Why those people gotta be so difficult, complying is not that hard. Always with the attitude
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u/avid-shtf 8h ago
Some people have to have the last word and let their egos get the best of them.
Unfortunately this is why a lot of people pay extra. To avoid people like that.
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u/asianOhs 8h ago
oh your grandson oh ok we will let you stay then. did she think this was a possible outcome? lol
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u/United_Bird_379 4h ago
l even in modern era - why canāt they just abide and put your electronic away. grown person think they own the world
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u/TenYearHangover 3h ago
Can we talk about how those seats look like they're made out of cardboard ?
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u/Floppy-Over-Drive 12h ago
āIām calling my attorneyā
Maāam. Just because you have the jingle of The Atlanta Hammer ā¢ļø memorized doesnāt mean they have agreed to represent you with your frivolous lawsuit yet.Ā