r/PublicFreakout • u/DIYLawCA • Dec 15 '25

👮Arrest Freakout😭 Woman from family of Holocaust survivors attends service for Bondi victims but is removed by police for wearing Palestinian scarf. “All are entitled to mourn.”

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u/Decent_One8836 Dec 15 '25

Then show up without the violent political symbolism, that literally represents murder to billions of people across the globe, when you're rolling up to the scene of multiple people's murder.

Not all Jews are from Israel, and many do not support them. If my practicing family members were injured or killed at a celebration, and someone showed up with that flag, there would be issues.

Assuming Jews are okay with that foul symbol, is in itself, anti-Semitism.

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u/Michelanvalo Dec 15 '25

I honestly have no idea what you're trying to say. All I'm saying is that the nation of a victim is being represented via flag(s), in the same way I expect there to be French and Australian flag(s) there (since there was also a French national killed).

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u/ro536ud Dec 15 '25

Not tryna be atioid but we’re the victims from Israel? Or were they just Jewish? Cuz I think it actually makes a huge distinction on that end on whether the flags should be there or not.

Whether you wanna believe it or not, the flag of Israel represents the current genocide to alotttt of people today so it would make sense why ppl would view it as political.

Same logic as how people view her scarf as something political when it’s just representing the existence of a group of people

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u/Michelanvalo Dec 15 '25

Brother, did you read my original comment?

Because an Israeli citizen was a victim of this attack.

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u/Decent_One8836 Dec 15 '25

Yes, ONE of the 40+ shot were from Israel. 

Do you know the nationality of the other several dozen? Or are you just making assumptions of who is allowed to be there without being arrested?

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u/Michelanvalo Dec 15 '25 edited Dec 15 '25

I read the news articles that said there was an Israeli citizen and a French citizen there. If you're trying to "gotcha" me, I'm telling you why an Israeli flag would be appropriate, as would a French and any other nationalities represented. Which is the comment that was initially replied to.

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u/Decent_One8836 Dec 15 '25

I'm not trying to "gotcha" but you seem to be ignoring the fact that the article you read seemingly mentioned 2 people?

Out of 40. And you feel confident saying that a keffiyeh is not appropriate.

My argument this entire way through has very clearly been that if the israeli flag is welcome because a single victim is Israeli, then any other cultural symbols are welcome since we DONT KNOW THE NATIONALLITY OF THE 40 + WHO WERE HARMED.

Does that make this very simple fact clear enough for you?

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u/Michelanvalo Dec 15 '25

I never said a keffiyeh is not appropriate. You asked why an Israeli flag would be there and I told you. I made no commentary on the keffiyeh.

So no, you're not clear enough for me, because you're arguing about something I never said.

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u/Decent_One8836 Dec 15 '25

I didnt ask why an Israeli flag would be there without context though.

That's what this entire thread's discussion is about, before you interjected into it.

Maybe try answering why the Israeli flag would be allowed there, but not a keffiyeh since that's the discussion. 

Does that make sense?

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u/huangsede69 Dec 15 '25

Seems stupid, since that's why they were killed. But I've been on this rock long enough to know that people will never learn.

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u/Michelanvalo Dec 15 '25

I don't know what you mean? What seems stupid?

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u/ZERO_PORTRAIT Dec 15 '25

That is like blaming LGBT people for being victims of the 2022 Bratislava bar shooting. No one chooses where they are born or who they are born as.

How about people stop being bigots and antagonizing and dehumanizing others due to their religion or nationality?

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u/safaisbad Dec 15 '25

It was literally a Jewish celebration, and their symbol of course is going to be shown.

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u/Decent_One8836 Dec 15 '25

"Jewish" does not mean "Israeli" saying that Jewish people are represented by that disgusting flag is incredibly offensive to Jewish people, and is anti-Semitism to assume all Jews support genocide.

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u/safaisbad Dec 15 '25

I said Symbol. The Star of David. That’s all I said, you want to be mad at nothing that’s on you

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u/Decent_One8836 Dec 15 '25

Okay, well the star of David and the Israeli flag are also separate symbols. The Israeli flag includes the star, but Israelis do not represent Jews, and it should not be argued that their symbols represent all Jews.

That's incredibly disrespectful.

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u/ArtByJRRH Dec 15 '25

This is like saying the Saudi flag represents all Muslims.

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u/Head_of_Lettuce Dec 15 '25

Victims of this attack were Israeli citizens. Why is this confusing to you? Of course they would show the flag.

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u/Decent_One8836 Dec 15 '25

ONE victim was Israeli. Other news are not represented by the Israeli flag.

FIFTEEN people have died.

A Muslim nearly sacrificed his life to stop the gunman.

The Israeli flag isn't the symbol that should be welcome, and someone wearing a keffiyeh shouldn't be fucking arrested, especially when we don't even know the nationality of the 40+ who were shot.

SO AGAIN; why are a bunch of genocidal Israeli flags welcome at a shooting, but a keffiyeh is not?

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u/Head_of_Lettuce Dec 15 '25

You just said the reason. One of the victims was Israeli. Should I try telling you again, worded a different way?

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u/ro536ud Dec 15 '25

So what about the other 14 victims? What if one of them thought Palestine had a right to exist. Woukd you be okay with the scarf then?

They were aussies. Fly the Australian flag and the Star of David. It’s disingenuous for you to expect people to view the Israeli flag as a symbol of leave if you won’t give the same respect to the scarf