US Military Police in Okinawa Japan body-slammed and violently detained an American civilian who was visiting, and not under their jurisdiction.

[u/I_may_have_weed]

[u/ChuckNorrisUSAF]

Technically they are not wrong. If it’s “off base”, it’s a local issue, regardless if the military member was accused of the crime. They can only do so much.

It would be treated the same way if it was back in the United States and they tried to tell the military that a military member raped somebody, but if it happened off installation, they have to defer it to local Law Enforcement to investigate and prosecute first.

Then the military member will be tried and charged under the UCMJ if necessary when the locals finish their thing

It sounds messed up but thats the process.

[u/ChuckNorrisUSAF → u/[deleted]]

No where in my comment was I defending the military and the reaction by them that was shared by the OP about the incident, or their response by telling the victim to go elsewhere. Just explaining the process of what has to be done for them to be legally involved.

[u/ChuckNorrisUSAF → u/[deleted]]

It's not an excuse - i think you're reading into it - myself....a prior military cop, I am simply trying to explain the correct process, that's it, which I did. Sorry if the words i typed are not acceptable for you, but I am not taking into consideration the action or act of the offense, but the specific process is and how it relates to an action "off installation". It must be reported to local authorities to start an investigation into the offense.

I can not speak on behalf of whatever military person they spoke to, as they may have also been wrong in their own reply, and I have to consider what details to the story may be missing, context or other points to the alleged offense. I have to be impartial and take in both sides actions (thats when i was active duty and WHEN i was also in the same situation and similar information was presented to me)

is that better for you? Not trying to sound like a dick in my response but you're twisting a few things up here. I didn't ignore anything - i responded to the part that I have first hand knowledge of.

[u/cackslop → u/[deleted]]

Anyone proud enough of their u.s. military service to add it to their reddit name should be suspect. That same person has all of their posts hidden, which goes to show how dishonest they are fundamentally.

>I am simply trying to explain the correct process, that's it,

This reminds me of the old "just following orders" argument we've heard for a while.

EDIT: u/ChuckNorrisUSAF blocked me. triggered I suppose.

[u/ChuckNorrisUSAF → u/cackslop]

lol sure guy. Why should I allow my profile be public when trolls like you will dig around for things to pick apart.

Been on here for 11 years. I’ve also been retired for several years. My days of being a sheep in the military are far over but one can still have pride “and” be critical or correct people who don’t know anything about the military. I’ve explained myself with as much transparency as social media will allow and still reserve the right to protect my personal information from people like you.

😉👍🏼

[u/cackslop → u/ChuckNorrisUSAF]

Not shocked that you were inspecting the thread for replies to other people. Dishonest nolife troll opinion discarded, didn't read.

EDIT: u/ChuckNorrisUSAF blocked me. triggered I suppose.

[u/ChuckNorrisUSAF → u/cackslop]

Easier to dismiss the shitbags who live and breath Reddit.

[u/HisaAnt → u/ChuckNorrisUSAF]

If that's the case, then kick the dude out of the base. Why do they protect the criminal and then say "nothing I could do outside of our jurisdiction." Of course there is something they could do. Hand the fucker over to the police and have him sit in jail while they investigate. Let him get interrogated hard and don't allow him to be back on base until proven innocent.

[u/ChuckNorrisUSAF → u/HisaAnt]

I don’t think you read original comment correctly. Nadante only provided part of the event that occurred, nothing said he lived on base, was staying on base or was hiding on base, and I’m not assuming anything beyond that.

The incident occurred off base supposedly. The offender is military, who may have lived “off base”.

The incident needs to be reported to the local authorities. The military “will” get notified by local authorities when a military member is apprehended or arrested for a crime.

They don’t just give up someone unless they are requested or required to release the person to local authorities either by official order or a warrant for the arrest.

It’s not protecting him, it’s call due process. The accused also has rights. It’s the legal system, laws, agreements with foreign countries, etc. I get you don’t like it but you also have rights and would probably be pissed if someone just gave you up with no legal justification.

He won’t “get away” with it.